Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear list, Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind chart. So, please share your view on the native: birth date: 13/09/1953, Birth Time: 20:23, Birth Place: Washington, DC Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Thanks for your participation. With Regards, Khin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Khin: Please confirm ascendant as Pisces, 25.38 Regards Sujit -- - Khin Maung Soe Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:14 PM Blind Chart (3), What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Dear list, Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind chart. So, please share your view on the native: birth date: 13/09/1953, Birth Time: 20:23, Birth Place: Washington, DC Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Thanks for your participation. With Regards, Khin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Sujit, Yes, it is. But my calculation is Pisces 25 deg 39.6 min. just a little different. Regards, Khin. Sujit <sujit68 wrote: Dear Khin: Please confirm ascendant as Pisces, 25.38 Regards Sujit ------------------------- - Khin Maung Soe Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:14 PM Blind Chart (3), What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Dear list, Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind chart. So, please share your view on the native: birth date: 13/09/1953, Birth Time: 20:23, Birth Place: Washington, DC Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Thanks for your participation. With Regards, Khin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hi Khin, Here's my assessment - thanks for the interesting challenges. Natal Chart. The Moon is very weak in infancy and debilitated representing mind and emotions and ruling the house of mind and emotions and discernment. 5th house is afflicted by Venus bringing further obstruction to mind, emotions, romance, education, and speculative ventures. Presence of un-afflicting Ketu and aspect of Rahu also adds miseries. Mercury is exalted in its own MT sign, combust, and in infancy (~30%) Sun is in old age (~50%) in its own sign. So I would say this person can function mentally but is easily overthrown emotionally by events. Mars in 6th brings disputes to family and accumulation of wealth and to speech. Saturn is in infancy, its MT sign is afflicted by Sun and its house of placement is ruled by a weak Venus this placement brings loss, separation, and disputes to relationships. Jupiter is in infancy in the 4th house ruling the 10th of profession. Could work from home but not successfully a weak Jupiter doesn't protect its significations - maybe no moral compass - could make bad decisions at times. Jupiter/Moon sub period at birth may indicate loss of mother at that time since bhukti would mean Venus afflicting MT sign of the Moon was also active. Time Period Saturn/Rahu was operating since 30-Mar-1971 At the time of the event Rahu is not afflicting houses or planets. Saturn has several triple transit relationships to look at. Summary The native's mind would have been under extreme tension due to 5th house affliction from transit Saturn, affliction to Transit Moon from Natal Rahu, weakness of Moon's transit dispositer (Mercury) due to debilitation and affliction from Natal Ketu. Saturn moving at about 5' per day was closing in on MEP of 4 houses, and Transit Sun and Venus were afflicting each other and Natal Saturn and vice versa. Transit Saturn in addition to afflicting 3rd, 5th, 9th, and 12th houses also afflicts Natal Venus. Mutual Affliction of 6th and 8th lords in the 2nd house and both of those afflicting and being afflicted by Natal Saturn in 8th means a lot of activity around family and personal bonds of marriage. Saturn is the active Maha Dasa ruler so it seems there would be loss (12th house ruler) of life (8th house ruler) in the family of the native. Since the Sun (6th ruler) is involved this could add the element of a dispute and/or violence from a fire or an explosion. Also it is possible the native initiated the event since the Native is represented by Mars for a Pisces rising sign since it rules the 2nd house and there is no MT in 1st or 3rd. Mars is weak and rules the 2nd containing Sun and Venus in transit and afflicting Natal Saturn 8th. Transit Mars entered debilitation sign in Navamsha the day before event. On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001 wrote: > Dear list, > Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto > at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth > data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind > chart. > So, please share your view on the native: > birth date: 13/09/1953, > Birth Time: 20:23, > Birth Place: Washington, DC > Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? > Thanks for your participation. > With Regards, > Khin. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 hello Khin and all members , thank you Khin for this new blind chart I try an answer AS 25°30 Piscies /Moon 0°04 Scorpio 15 /04/1973 : Saturne / Rahu together malefic in natal Saturne ( general significator for death ) is in VIII exalted but in infancy ( 2°18 Libra ) Saturne afflicted ( 6°03) MEP AS ;IV ;VII and IX Venus lord VIII (dispositor of Saturne ) is closed to MEP V ( 1°06) and afflicted MEP XI Moon ( lord V ;mental ,emotion ) is very weak closed to MEP VIII but in house IX which is afflicted Mercury ( mental faculties ) is well placed in its moolatrikona but is combust and afflicted by lord VI( 5°46) and afflicted by Rahu ( 5°16)and Saturne afflict MEP mool of Mercury There is no mool in AS so I think Mars can signifie the native Mars is in VI that `isn't good I think this native is attracted to death and violence In transit Saturn T 23°18 Taurus afflicted MEP III ; Venus N and MEP V ,IX( where is Moon natal lord V ) and XII Rahu T in X ( 17°30 sagittarius ) compulsif behaviour ;its dispositor Jupiter N is very weak ( in infancy)in house IV ( end of life ) and Jupiter T is debilited in XI closed to Mars T exalted and under affliction of Venus N Sun T exalted ( lord VI :health ) conjoint Venus ( lord VIII ) afflicted themselves mutually and afflicted Saturne N and are too afflicted by Saturne N Moon T lord V ( mental ) 1°13 Virgo conjoint Mercury N and in mutual aspect Mercury T which is debilited in AS and under affliction Kethu N ( 4°30) Venus T and Sun T are proximity MEP AS Perhaps she commit suicide regards Françoise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Hello Khin A last blind test before next year.... In natal chart, Saturn, badly placed in the 8H of death and accidents, governs the 12H of losses whose MEP is afflicted by FM Sun from the 6H. Lord of 8H, Venus, weak by debilitated dispositor, afflicts 5H and 11H. Mars, lord of 2H, governs close family members from the house of accidents. On 15th april 1973, Saturn (losses) period and Rahu (sudden happenings) subperiod are operating. Natal Rahu is located in the 11H afflicted by MMP Venus. Transit situation shows the following : transit Saturn afflicts natal Venus, 3H (younger siblings), 5H (children) and 9H (father). Natal Venus (deathlike situations) afflicts transit Mars (close family) located in the 11H. Transit Sun (father) is conjunct MMP Venus (death) in the 2H of close family, aspected by natal Saturn (losses). Event : I suggest sudden death of her father. Best Wishes Jo Cohen - Khin Maung Soe Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:44 PM Blind Chart (3), What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Dear list, Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind chart. So, please share your view on the native: birth date: 13/09/1953, Birth Time: 20:23, Birth Place: Washington, DC Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Thanks for your participation. With Regards, Khin. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release 28/12/2007 11:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Dear Khin, She suffered accident affecting her eyes Best regards Sujit -- - Khin Soe Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:18 PM Re: Blind Chart (3), What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Dear Sujit, Yes, it is. But my calculation is Pisces 25 deg 39.6 min. just a little different. Regards, Khin. Sujit <sujit68 wrote: Dear Khin: Please confirm ascendant as Pisces, 25.38 Regards Sujit ------------------------- - Khin Maung Soe Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:14 PM Blind Chart (3), What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Dear list, Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind chart. So, please share your view on the native: birth date: 13/09/1953, Birth Time: 20:23, Birth Place: Washington, DC Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Thanks for your participation. With Regards, Khin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Saturn in 8th, Rahu in 11th while 5th and 2nd houses are having negative influences. Something severely bad would have happened related with 2nd and 5th house. May be death of someone in the family. , " Khin Maung Soe " <kmsoe2001 wrote: > > Dear list, > Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto > at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth > data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind > chart. > So, please share your view on the native: > birth date: 13/09/1953, > Birth Time: 20:23, > Birth Place: Washington, DC > Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? > Thanks for your participation. > With Regards, > Khin. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Dear list, Thank you very much for your answer for Blind Chart (3), The answer is :- -The girl was brutally raped and stabbed with pen knife to death. And killer was never found. However, I, I can say that the bad thing related to sex would happened to her but I could not pinpoint the exact answer if I treat it as blind chart. -The finding are : -Transit Saturn (MTL of H12) exactly afflicting the H3, H5, H9, H12 -Natal Venus (Signifinicator of sex, MTL of H8) was exactly afflicting by Transit Saturn (MTL of H12 placed at H7) -Natal Saturn (Signifinicator of longevity) was exactly afflicting by Transit Sun (MTL of H6, placed at H6) -H7, (singnificator of inner sex organ) was being closelyf afflicted by Transit Sun (MTL of H6). With Regards, Khin. Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001 wrote: Dear list, Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind chart. So, please share your view on the native: birth date: 13/09/1953, Birth Time: 20:23, Birth Place: Washington, DC Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? Thanks for your participation. With Regards, Khin. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 hello Khin , thank you very much for this blind chart ..it's really very very interesting for me to see a chart like this and also when we can discuss about for my answer we have discuss in private and I said that was really very difficult for me to choice between two thing for this native... perhaps Prof Choudry or one of members can explain me how see in a chart if native could be more a victim or more a killer ?? thank you regards Françoise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Dear Khin Soe, Thanks for the Answer. Everything can now be understood. I , actually, remained quite dependent upon the aspect of natal Jupiter over Natal Saturn, which I thought will be a good live savior. Even now, I am really trying to work out what made her weak with strong Sun and well placed Mercury and Jupiter which would have failed to support during such unfavorable circumstances. It seems that the accused may be within the family on whom she might be having good faith. Thanks again for your time and support in posting blind charts. , Khin Soe <kmsoe2001 wrote: > > Dear list, > Thank you very much for your answer for Blind Chart (3), > The answer is :- > -The girl was brutally raped and stabbed with pen knife to death. And killer was never found. > However, I, I can say that the bad thing related to sex would happened to her but I could not pinpoint the exact answer if I treat it as blind chart. > > -The finding are : > -Transit Saturn (MTL of H12) exactly afflicting the H3, H5, H9, H12 > -Natal Venus (Signifinicator of sex, MTL of H8) was exactly afflicting by Transit Saturn (MTL of H12 placed at H7) > -Natal Saturn (Signifinicator of longevity) was exactly afflicting by Transit Sun (MTL of H6, placed at H6) > -H7, (singnificator of inner sex organ) was being closelyf afflicted by Transit Sun (MTL of H6). > With Regards, > Khin. > > > > Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001 wrote: > Dear list, > Even though there is the mourning time for everyone for the Mrs. Bhuto > at the end of year 2007 and some member are being busy with her birth > data, I still would like to keep my promise to post the another blind > chart. > So, please share your view on the native: > birth date: 13/09/1953, > Birth Time: 20:23, > Birth Place: Washington, DC > Question: What happened to him her on 15/04/1973? > Thanks for your participation. > With Regards, > Khin. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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