Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Dear Professor ji & other list members, With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and physical cause of death. female D.O.B: 29th december 1966 time: 5:00 AM place: Faridabad, haryana, India date of death: 31/march/2002 jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and what was the reasons behind that. With Regards rakesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Dear Rakesh, To check the accuracy of the birth data, I have seen that the lady must be obviously tall stature. My finding is that the Lagna in Rasi, Lagna, and Sun in the nawamsa are all located in tall sign. And she must be in very high profile in her profession and status where she was. The Sun, lord of H10, the Mercury, lord of H11, and The Jupiter, lord of H2 are very strong in my finding. Could you let me know my finding is correct or not. Thanks, Khin. shukla_rakesh <shukla_rakesh wrote: Dear Professor ji & other list members, With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and physical cause of death. female D.O.B: 29th december 1966 time: 5:00 AM place: Faridabad, haryana, India date of death: 31/march/2002 jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and what was the reasons behind that. With Regards rakesh Khin Maung Soe E-mail: kmsoe, kmsoe Blk 689, Jurong West Central 1 #09-217 Singapore 640689 Tel:(65)6729 2609 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Rakesh, FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of Jupiter's weakness. The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which many HIV/AID patients succumb. SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her emotional torment. The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis from needles. The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given how much is going on in the chart: 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus the general health could not be protected. In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. Given the above indications this would point to hospitalization/institutionalization. 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the neck area, I can't rule out hanging. Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of hospitalization. In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what actually transpired. Kindly let us know the details of the situation. Warm regards, Matt , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > physical cause of death. > > female > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > time: 5:00 AM > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > what was the reasons behind that. > > With Regards > > rakesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Matt, The girl died because of some infection in head/ mind followeby coma and never came back. As far as my knowledge cocern she was having a good married life with two childern. How ever I am not able to find that the infection was due to overdose of some medicine or drugs. Thanks for your detailed analysis. I request if professor can throw some light. regds rakesh Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of Jupiter's weakness. The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which many HIV/AID patients succumb. SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her emotional torment. The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis from needles. The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given how much is going on in the chart: 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus the general health could not be protected. In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. Given the above indications this would point to hospitalization/institutionalization. 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the neck area, I can't rule out hanging. Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of hospitalization. In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what actually transpired. Kindly let us know the details of the situation. Warm regards, Matt , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > physical cause of death. > > female > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > time: 5:00 AM > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > what was the reasons behind that. > > With Regards > > rakesh > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Rakesh, I went looking for a " cause " and went astray. More emphasis should have been placed on Mars being the 6th lord of illness and Rahu's affliction from the 6th of illness rather than their general significations towards vices with Venus as 12th lord. Thanks for the rapid response, Matt , shukla rakesh <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Matt, > > The girl died because of some infection in head/ mind followeby coma and never came back. As far as my knowledge cocern she was having a good married life with two childern. How ever I am not able to find that the infection was due to overdose of some medicine or drugs. > Thanks for your detailed analysis. > I request if professor can throw some light. > > regds > rakesh > > > > Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, > > FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), > especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking > impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. > > Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates > consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling > righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general > karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. > The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of > Jupiter's weakness. > > The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars > brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases > (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for > immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka > for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement > in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the > affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the > lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. > > The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and > lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system > is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, > is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and > could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which > many HIV/AID patients succumb. > > SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental > and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and > troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due > to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted > injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have > " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her > emotional torment. > > The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or > other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests > impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis > from needles. > > The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. > Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn > ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and > gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional > stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances > 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. > Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. > > I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given > how much is going on in the chart: > > 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, > Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted > though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on > account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus > the general health could not be protected. > > In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the > lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of > institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, > Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. > > Given the above indications this would point to > hospitalization/institutionalization. > > 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. > > At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. > Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. > > Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the > 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, > death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the > neck area, I can't rule out hanging. > > Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and > the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. > Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this > rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in > the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of > hospitalization. > > In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply > troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices > either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to > which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. > > I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis > knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it > seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am > interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what > actually transpired. > > Kindly let us know the details of the situation. > > Warm regards, > > Matt > > , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > > physical cause of death. > > > > female > > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > > time: 5:00 AM > > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > > what was the reasons behind that. > > > > With Regards > > > > rakesh > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Hello dear Rakesh, Weak Venus and weak Saturn do not indicate long life. Weak Natal planets are not much helpful even if they are strong in transit. The sub period of Rahu does indicate accute health problems for her and close affliction of transit Mars aggravates the situation further. Rahu gives undiagnosed diseases including allergies and infections. Best wishes. - " shukla rakesh " <shukla_rakesh Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:03 PM Re: Re: SA reasons and physical cause of death Dear Matt, The girl died because of some infection in head/ mind followeby coma and never came back. As far as my knowledge cocern she was having a good married life with two childern. How ever I am not able to find that the infection was due to overdose of some medicine or drugs. Thanks for your detailed analysis. I request if professor can throw some light. regds rakesh Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of Jupiter's weakness. The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which many HIV/AID patients succumb. SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her emotional torment. The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis from needles. The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given how much is going on in the chart: 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus the general health could not be protected. In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. Given the above indications this would point to hospitalization/institutionalization. 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the neck area, I can't rule out hanging. Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of hospitalization. In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what actually transpired. Kindly let us know the details of the situation. Warm regards, Matt , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > physical cause of death. > > female > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > time: 5:00 AM > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > what was the reasons behind that. > > With Regards > > rakesh > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Professor & list, Sub period lord Rahu is afflicting weak longevity lord Venus by close aspects in its period. Regards Sujit - siha Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:43 PM Re: Re: SA reasons and physical cause of death Hello dear Rakesh, Weak Venus and weak Saturn do not indicate long life. Weak Natal planets are not much helpful even if they are strong in transit. The sub period of Rahu does indicate accute health problems for her and close affliction of transit Mars aggravates the situation further. Rahu gives undiagnosed diseases including allergies and infections. Best wishes. - " shukla rakesh " <shukla_rakesh Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:03 PM Re: Re: SA reasons and physical cause of death Dear Matt, The girl died because of some infection in head/ mind followeby coma and never came back. As far as my knowledge cocern she was having a good married life with two childern. How ever I am not able to find that the infection was due to overdose of some medicine or drugs. Thanks for your detailed analysis. I request if professor can throw some light. regds rakesh Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of Jupiter's weakness. The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which many HIV/AID patients succumb. SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her emotional torment. The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis from needles. The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given how much is going on in the chart: 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus the general health could not be protected. In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. Given the above indications this would point to hospitalization/institutionalization. 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the neck area, I can't rule out hanging. Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of hospitalization. In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what actually transpired. Kindly let us know the details of the situation. Warm regards, Matt , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > physical cause of death. > > female > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > time: 5:00 AM > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > what was the reasons behind that. > > With Regards > > rakesh > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Respected Sir, Thanks for your response. regds rakesh siha wrote: Hello dear Rakesh, Weak Venus and weak Saturn do not indicate long life. Weak Natal planets are not much helpful even if they are strong in transit. The sub period of Rahu does indicate accute health problems for her and close affliction of transit Mars aggravates the situation further. Rahu gives undiagnosed diseases including allergies and infections. Best wishes. - " shukla rakesh " <shukla_rakesh Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:03 PM Re: Re: SA reasons and physical cause of death Dear Matt, The girl died because of some infection in head/ mind followeby coma and never came back. As far as my knowledge cocern she was having a good married life with two childern. How ever I am not able to find that the infection was due to overdose of some medicine or drugs. Thanks for your detailed analysis. I request if professor can throw some light. regds rakesh Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of Jupiter's weakness. The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which many HIV/AID patients succumb. SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her emotional torment. The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis from needles. The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given how much is going on in the chart: 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus the general health could not be protected. In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. Given the above indications this would point to hospitalization/institutionalization. 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the neck area, I can't rule out hanging. Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of hospitalization. In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what actually transpired. Kindly let us know the details of the situation. Warm regards, Matt , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > physical cause of death. > > female > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > time: 5:00 AM > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > what was the reasons behind that. > > With Regards > > rakesh > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Respected Mr. Matt, Thanks for your reply & analysis. regds Rakesh Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, I went looking for a " cause " and went astray. More emphasis should have been placed on Mars being the 6th lord of illness and Rahu's affliction from the 6th of illness rather than their general significations towards vices with Venus as 12th lord. Thanks for the rapid response, Matt , shukla rakesh <shukla_rakesh wrote: > > Dear Matt, > > The girl died because of some infection in head/ mind followeby coma and never came back. As far as my knowledge cocern she was having a good married life with two childern. How ever I am not able to find that the infection was due to overdose of some medicine or drugs. > Thanks for your detailed analysis. > I request if professor can throw some light. > > regds > rakesh > > > > Matt <hunt4genestocks wrote: Dear Rakesh, > > FIRST, the impact of EITHER Mars or Rahu to the 12th lord (vices), > especially being Venus, gives strong carnal and pleasure-seeking > impulses. Having BOTH shows some very, very strong indications. > > Venus rules drugs/poisons and its placement in the 2nd house indicates > consumption of same. The weakness of the 4th lord Saturn, ruling > righteous conduct, is weak in the 5th of pleasures. Jupiter, general > karaka for character and morality, is weak due to its weak dispositor. > The Sun, another indicator of character is also weak on account of > Jupiter's weakness. > > The two close natal afflictions to the 12L Venus by Rahu and Mars > brings in the possibilities of substance abuse and venereal diseases > (like HIV/AIDS). The 12th lord Venus, becomes the specific karaka for > immune power and is badly afflicted. The Moon is the general karaka > for immune power and is utterly weak due to old age and bad placement > in the 8th. This could also lead to lymphoma. Given that the > affliction occurs in the 2nd house I would say that any disease of the > lymphatic system manifested in the area of the neck. > > The 4th lord, Saturn, which is the specific karaka for the chest and > lungs is utterly weak too showing that the entire respiratory system > is compromised and weak. Mercury too, as general karaka for the lungs, > is utterly weak due to infancy, combustion and a weak dispositor and > could allow for some form of pneumonia/respiratory illness to which > many HIV/AID patients succumb. > > SECOND, there are strong indications in this chart of severe mental > and emotional problems. Sadly, it indicates a very tragic and > troubled mental and emotional life and one that could have ended due > to substance abuse, promiscuity leading to AIDs or a self-inflicted > injury. It would appear from the combinations that she may have > " self-medicated " using street drugs to provide some solace from her > emotional torment. > > The weakness of Jupiter points to the possibility of hepatitis or > other liver ailments. The involvement of Mars with Venus suggests > impurities in the blood. Thus, she could have contracted Hepatitis > from needles. > > The significators for mental and emotional health are all weak. > Mercury is combust, in infancy and has a weak dispositor. Saturn > ruling the 4th house being located in the 5th is in utter infancy and > gives strong indications for depression. The Moon, ruling emotional > stability, is 1) badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances > 2) in utter old age and 3) closely afflicted by the 12th lord Venus. > Collectively showing a mind that was deeply troubled. > > I see TWO related possibilties and this is the best I can do given > how much is going on in the chart: > > 1) Illness: Indications of functional health come from the 6th lord, > Mars, for a Scorpio native. Mars is well-placed and unafflicted > though is weak on account of its dispositor Mercury being weak on > account of 1) infancy 2) combustution and 3) a weak dispositor. Thus > the general health could not be protected. > > In the D-6 Shastamsha chart for Health, Sagittarius rises and the > lagna lord Jupiter has gone to the 12th of > institutionalization/hospitalization. The 12th lord of the Rasi, > Venus, is debilitated and afflicting the Moon. > > Given the above indications this would point to > hospitalization/institutionalization. > > 2) Self-inflicted death by drug overdose or suicide. > > At the time of her passing, she was running the subperiod of Rahu. > Transit Rahu was widely afflicting natal Mars. > > Transit Mars from the 6th was closely afflicting transit Ketu in the > 1st house showing a very personal and violent, perhaps self-induced, > death. Given the focus on Venus in the 2nd house, which rules the > neck area, I can't rule out hanging. > > Jupiter, which is the dispositor for three planets (Mercury, Venus and > the Sun) was badly placed in the 8th of death-like circumstances. > Given the aforementioned weaknesses of Mercury and Venus, this > rendered them utterly weak. Venus was further weakened by being in > the 6th house in transit. The Moon, in transit, was in the 12th of > hospitalization. > > In summary, I would venture to say that the poor girl was deeply > troubled and depressed and her " self medicating " and lifestyle choices > either led to an immune debilitating disease 1) Hepatitis/HIV/AIDs to > which she succumbed or 2)suicide by overdose/poisoning or hanging. > > I am sorry this isn't a great " prediction " or even post hoc analysis > knowing she has sadly passed. I have replied to the post because it > seems the thread went dead yet it is a good blind chart case and I am > interested in the various combinations and do wish to know what > actually transpired. > > Kindly let us know the details of the situation. > > Warm regards, > > Matt > > , " shukla_rakesh " <shukla_rakesh@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Professor ji & other list members, > > > > With due respect to departed soul can we define the SA reasons and > > physical cause of death. > > > > female > > D.O.B: 29th december 1966 > > time: 5:00 AM > > place: Faridabad, haryana, India> date of death: 31/march/2002 > > > > jupiter is transiting 8th house on mep. the dispositor of jupitrr, > > moon was transiting 12th. the dasha was mer/rahu. Saturn the > > significator of longetivity was very weak in Natal but strong in > > tranist. dispor dipositor of jupiter Moon is weak in Natal also and > > placed in 8th and afflicted by natal venus. > > Sir, can your please help me to identify the timing of the event and > > what was the reasons behind that. > > > > With Regards > > > > rakesh > > > Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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