Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear David, An insight I'd also like to share on this chart: the USA is the premiere nation where sueing takes place - this is quite obvious with Venus in the 6th and the influence by Rahu. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " David Hawthorne " <david Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:07 PM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Dear Friends.. In reviewing the SAMVA chart for the USA this morning, it struck me that jupiter, ruling conflict, is afflicting moon, ruling the chart. This accounts for the country having its own Civil War, constant political disputes, and wars with other countries. Rahu, in the tenth house, gives tremendous business and professional ambition. Sun and Mercury, in the seventh house, show status and independence connected with partnerships and foreign lands. Mars, in the fifth house, shows strong professional education and investments in property and military technology. Venus, in the sixth house, shows conflicts over property and disturbed domestic peace (riots, unrest, religous and political divisions). The fit becomes more apparent every time I study the chart. Even the transits line up perfectly with major events, such as Sept. 11th, Pearl Harbor, and the Stock Market Crash of 1929. In every one of the charts, the functional malefic planets are on the Most Effective Points and/or closely afflicting the planets or houses signifying these events. Congratulations to all those who worked on the chart, including Thor, John TWB, Jorge and our dear professor.... Best wishes, David Hawthorne - siha Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:05 AM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Hello dear Mr. Dorio, USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, Annapolis, MD, USA. Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. Transit influences will show the calamities occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? How does this chart account for the calamities that have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? I want to thank you again for your careful guidance and assistance. Best regards, John Dorio --- siha wrote: > > Hello John, > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > Ketu on the Moon will > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > criteria. The USA Samva > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > background and the Moon > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > So, the impact on the > Moon is also pertinent here. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > Cc: > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > Re: US Stock Markets and the > Moon > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > lord. > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > of > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > John > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > research. What chart are you > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > Transiting or natal > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > Thanks, > > Duke > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > I > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > Dow > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > position > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > at > > a > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > dasa > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > 911 > > and > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > over > > > recent years. > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > Moon > > is > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > records to > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > and > > > the other members think. I welcome your > comments. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > answers from someone who > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small > Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 >Dear Yvas. Do you see anything in the SAMVA USA chart to indicate why Americans murder each other more than any other society on earth? (according to Michael Moore).Best wishes, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear Chuck, This is apparent by the influence (wide) by LO8 on the natal house of the Moon. The Moon and Mars from a close opp, with Mars in the house of emotions, read overall, this gives an agressive attitude. We can also note that LO6 forms a close opposition to the Moon and a wide aspect to Mars, which also rules executioners. Moreover, there's the close lord of death, Saturn-Sun aspect; the Sun is general significator of the self. As the aspects are not exact and the FB planets are strong on all other counts, things go on progressively, though the nature is there for violence. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:50 PM Re: Additional insight, USA chart >Dear Yvas. Do you see anything in the SAMVA USA chart to indicate why Americans murder each other more than any other society on earth? (according to Michael Moore).Best wishes, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hi Chuck, In my view, there are numerous adverse impacts in the SAMVA USA chart. Allow me to mention the main ones in order of importance: (a) L8 Saturn of death aspects L2 Sun of family (b) L6 Jupiter of conflict aspects L1 Moon of self © Ketu of violent acts is in H4 MEP of public harmony and aspects H8 of death and H12 of losses (d) Rahu of crisis is in H10 MEP of the public and aspects H2 of family and H6 of conflict (e) L4 Venus of public harmony is in H6 of conflict I think (a) mainly explains the murders with the other influences contributing to conflictual circumstances. The murder of a citizen by another with violent means is certainly a widespread problem in the USA. However, it is also prevalent in many other countries, such as Columbia. There are other forms of murder, such as state sponsored violence. In some countries millions of citizens have been systematically murdered in the span of a few years, such as Germany (1930/40s), Soviet Union (1930s/1940s), China (1960s), Cambodia (1960s/1970s), Ruwanda (1990s), etc. Such a damning development has, fortunately, not been seen in the USA. For that, as in the charts of murderers, the mundane chart would be expected to show much more serious afflictions between, for instnace the L8 and the nodes and/or L12. Finally, the astrologcial factor (a) also explains the assasinations or attempts on the life of many Presidents - as Sun is also indicator of leader of the country. On SAMVA there is a study where the astrological evidence for the assasination of the numerous presidents has been presented. Best wishes, Thor , " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 wrote: > > >Dear Yvas. Do you see anything in the SAMVA USA chart to indicate why > Americans murder each other more than any other society on earth? > (according to Michael Moore).Best wishes, Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hello Chuck, It's also one of four countries in the world that has no paid maternal leave in the business world. Swaziland and three others, all third world. Is that a slam on the feminine or what? Best wishes, Sally On 8/15/07, wakefieldvedic <radiopro55 wrote: > > >Dear Yvas. Do you see anything in the SAMVA USA chart to indicate why > Americans murder each other more than any other society on earth? > (according to Michael Moore).Best wishes, Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 > >Dear Yvas and Thor: Thank you both for your very thorough responses. I have often wondered what astrological signature in the SAMVA USA chart could indicate such behaviour. I will study your responses carefully. What a great learning tool. Thanks again, Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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