Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Professor and list: Chart of female, August 26,1977, 16h33, Zone 2h30,52w43;47n43. With Jupiter so well placed and strong in her chart, promising good partnership and marriage possibilities, the native has yet to find someone she feels is the right person for marriage. With L1 Jupiter in H8 in D9, but in its own sign, can she finally expect a favourable union when her Jupiter main period begins in 2010 or will her chances be spoiled. Any insight would be appreciated. Best wishes, Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Chuck Since 1997, when she was twenty and might have started looking to marriage, she has been running the subperiods of planets that have, for various reasons, kept a suitable partner from arriving. Saturn's subperiod highlighted its weak placement in the 8th which obstructed initiatives. Mercury is combusted and in old age in the house of good fortune. Ketu's subperiod activated its wide aspect to a badly placed and old Saturn that obstructed initiatives related to the marital tie (I realize it is out of the strict 5* orb but placement and old age render it utterly weak and subject to malefic influences). Venus' subperiod obstructed her desires/wishes related to the 8th of the marital tie due to placement weakness. The Sun period would have otherwise been good save for the irony that Jupiter, which is the karaka for the husband for Sag ascendants, moved from old age in the 11th to the 12th house where it remains today. She will move into the Moon period in September. The Moon rules the marital tie as the 8th lord and is well-placed and is unafflicted and unafflicting. Accordingly, it signifies that its 8th significations will flourish and be related to the 2nd house of family/accumulated assets/status. She will be married during this period and gain status from an excellent spouse of fine character and financial resources. Jupiter's placement in the 8th of the Navamsha in its own sign show more of an occult/metaphysical/spiritual character to the spouse rather than denial/delay. If the Moon's subperiod doesn't bring success over the next 1.5 years, the following periods of either Mars or Jupiter, in its own dasa, certainly will. You can look to the transit influences more closely for some periods of beneficial aspects involving Jupiter or Saturn. Saturn transits Leo and retrogrades into her MEP of the 9th of good fortune, income/friends/wishes and initiatives (its own mooltrikona) in the Spring 2008, for example. Propitiations for the Moon, Rahu and Ketu are advisable; as always while strengthening of Venus and Saturn, in particular, are needed. Hope this helps, Matt , " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 wrote: > > Dear Professor and list: Chart of female, August 26,1977, 16h33, Zone > 2h30,52w43;47n43. With Jupiter so well placed and strong in her chart, > promising good partnership and marriage possibilities, the native has > yet to find someone she feels is the right person for marriage. With L1 > Jupiter in H8 in D9, but in its own sign, can she finally expect a > favourable union when her Jupiter main period begins in 2010 or will > her chances be spoiled. Any insight would be appreciated. Best wishes, > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Matt: Thank you for your thorough and insightful response. In the Professor's " Self Learning Course in Astrology " The indication for both the main and subperiod lords both being functional malefics is " will cause sufferings " . So, my concern is that during the Moon subperiod, she could actually attract someone who is a financial hard luck story and she should keep her heart out of her pocketbook. Perhaps I am misunderstanding the role of the Moon here,so perhaps you could help e understand how anything positive could come out of the subperiod of the MMP. You stated that she will wed during the Moon subperiod, but did not indicate whether or not it would subsequently be a happy experience for her or cause suffering. I was thinking the beginning of the Jupiter main period will be the time when she will wed happily. Best regards. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Chuck, The key here is that the Moon is strong, well-placed and unafflicting/unafflicted. Therefore, during its subperiods it will support its particular and general significations including the 8th house and the 2nd; where it is placed. During the subperiod of the Moon, as a malefic, as it transits the chart it will causes picks and pins but the separation from sensitive points is within hours. HOWEVER, she WILL need to be mindful of the transit influence of the nodes upon natal Moon AND natal Moon upon slow moving benefics. Hence, doing propitiations. This is why I indicated that you would have to look to the TTT's of Jupiter and Saturn (I focused on the positives for attaining marriage) but agreeably you need to look for the negatives to for when she could have some setbacks. Shri Choudhry, please correct me if this is incorrect.... Regards, Matt --- wakefieldvedic <radiopro55 wrote: > Dear Matt: Thank you for your thorough and insightful response. In > the > Professor's " Self Learning Course in Astrology " The indication for > both > the main and subperiod lords both being functional malefics is " will > cause sufferings " . So, my concern is that during the Moon subperiod, > she could actually attract someone who is a financial hard luck story > > and she should keep her heart out of her pocketbook. Perhaps I am > misunderstanding the role of the Moon here,so perhaps you could help > e > understand how anything positive could come out of the subperiod of > the > MMP. You stated that she will wed during the Moon subperiod, but did > not indicate whether or not it would subsequently be a happy > experience > for her or cause suffering. I was thinking the beginning of the > Jupiter > main period will be the time when she will wed happily. Best regards. > > Chuck > > ______________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Matt: I understand the distinction regarding the unafflicted/unafflicting Moon and the suggestion to watch Transit and Natal afflictions. However, I would appreciate the Professor's clarification on the matter, because the table indicating main and subperiod results does not qualify the nature(s) of the FM's. Thank you for the work on this, Chuck ______________________ ____________ > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dear Chuck, A strong, well placed, and unafflicted FM planet promotes the positive significations of it's MTH house related to its house of placement, in its sub-period, with disturbances only when it's afflicted/afflicting. The degree of disturbance is proportional to how strong the planet is natally. In the case of this Sg ascendant, easy gains from foreign sources, giving rise to status is likely from this Moon. Also the marital tie will be promoted especially as the natal Moon is placed in the house of family. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:48 PM Re: Perplexed Dear Matt: I understand the distinction regarding the unafflicted/unafflicting Moon and the suggestion to watch Transit and Natal afflictions. However, I would appreciate the Professor's clarification on the matter, because the table indicating main and subperiod results does not qualify the nature(s) of the FM's. Thank you for the work on this, Chuck ______________________ ____________ > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Hello dear Mr. Chuck and Mr. Matt, The sub period of the Moon is capable of bringing marriage as the Moon is prime determinant of marriage for those born in the ascending sign of Sagittarius. The strong influence of Jupiter on the seventh house is likely to keep the marriage happy. Best wishes. - " Matt Xiarhos " <hunt4genestocks Friday, August 10, 2007 1:34 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Chuck, The key here is that the Moon is strong, well-placed and unafflicting/unafflicted. Therefore, during its subperiods it will support its particular and general significations including the 8th house and the 2nd; where it is placed. During the subperiod of the Moon, as a malefic, as it transits the chart it will causes picks and pins but the separation from sensitive points is within hours. HOWEVER, she WILL need to be mindful of the transit influence of the nodes upon natal Moon AND natal Moon upon slow moving benefics. Hence, doing propitiations. This is why I indicated that you would have to look to the TTT's of Jupiter and Saturn (I focused on the positives for attaining marriage) but agreeably you need to look for the negatives to for when she could have some setbacks. Shri Choudhry, please correct me if this is incorrect.... Regards, Matt --- wakefieldvedic <radiopro55 wrote: > Dear Matt: Thank you for your thorough and insightful response. In > the > Professor's " Self Learning Course in Astrology " The indication for > both > the main and subperiod lords both being functional malefics is " will > cause sufferings " . So, my concern is that during the Moon subperiod, > she could actually attract someone who is a financial hard luck story > > and she should keep her heart out of her pocketbook. Perhaps I am > misunderstanding the role of the Moon here,so perhaps you could help > e > understand how anything positive could come out of the subperiod of > the > MMP. You stated that she will wed during the Moon subperiod, but did > not indicate whether or not it would subsequently be a happy > experience > for her or cause suffering. I was thinking the beginning of the > Jupiter > main period will be the time when she will wed happily. Best regards. > > Chuck > > ______________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 > Dear Yvas. Thank you for this clarification. I assume the transit and natal afflictions still apply. Best wishes, Chuck > > ______________________ > ____________ > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dear Chuck, Yes, always. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:39 PM Re: Perplexed > Dear Yvas. Thank you for this clarification. I assume the transit and natal afflictions still apply. Best wishes, Chuck > > ______________________ > ____________ > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dear Professor, (Please forgive my ignorance) It is clear that the marital tie will be promoted in the Mo subperiod especially as the Moon is the prime determinant of marriage, is strong, unafflicted and in the 2H of family. However in understanding the TIMING of marriage, we look towards 7, 2, and 4Hs or the planets influencing these houses - present is Ju and Mars in H7, close to the MEP. The Moon is in wide aspect to the MEP. The logical conclusion is that the Ju subperiod (especially, and Mars also) will be more significant for marriage timing than the Moon's. Correct? (Although, considering the upcoming transits, things are quite favourable with Mars' extended stay in the 7H and Ju moving to the 1H inf the 7H. Either way, this Mo subperiod will be significant). Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:38 PM Re: Re: Perplexed Hello dear Mr. Chuck and Mr. Matt, The sub period of the Moon is capable of bringing marriage as the Moon is prime determinant of marriage for those born in the ascending sign of Sagittarius. The strong influence of Jupiter on the seventh house is likely to keep the marriage happy. Best wishes. - " Matt Xiarhos " <hunt4genestocks Friday, August 10, 2007 1:34 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Chuck, The key here is that the Moon is strong, well-placed and unafflicting/unafflicted. Therefore, during its subperiods it will support its particular and general significations including the 8th house and the 2nd; where it is placed. During the subperiod of the Moon, as a malefic, as it transits the chart it will causes picks and pins but the separation from sensitive points is within hours. HOWEVER, she WILL need to be mindful of the transit influence of the nodes upon natal Moon AND natal Moon upon slow moving benefics. Hence, doing propitiations. This is why I indicated that you would have to look to the TTT's of Jupiter and Saturn (I focused on the positives for attaining marriage) but agreeably you need to look for the negatives to for when she could have some setbacks. Shri Choudhry, please correct me if this is incorrect.... Regards, Matt --- wakefieldvedic <radiopro55 wrote: > Dear Matt: Thank you for your thorough and insightful response. In > the > Professor's " Self Learning Course in Astrology " The indication for > both > the main and subperiod lords both being functional malefics is " will > cause sufferings " . So, my concern is that during the Moon subperiod, > she could actually attract someone who is a financial hard luck story > > and she should keep her heart out of her pocketbook. Perhaps I am > misunderstanding the role of the Moon here,so perhaps you could help > e > understand how anything positive could come out of the subperiod of > the > MMP. You stated that she will wed during the Moon subperiod, but did > not indicate whether or not it would subsequently be a happy > experience > for her or cause suffering. I was thinking the beginning of the > Jupiter > main period will be the time when she will wed happily. Best regards. > > Chuck > > ______________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Hello dear Vyas, The placement benefit of the Moon in the second house can give marriage. Best wishes. - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Friday, August 10, 2007 10:42 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Dear Professor, (Please forgive my ignorance) It is clear that the marital tie will be promoted in the Mo subperiod especially as the Moon is the prime determinant of marriage, is strong, unafflicted and in the 2H of family. However in understanding the TIMING of marriage, we look towards 7, 2, and 4Hs or the planets influencing these houses - present is Ju and Mars in H7, close to the MEP. The Moon is in wide aspect to the MEP. The logical conclusion is that the Ju subperiod (especially, and Mars also) will be more significant for marriage timing than the Moon's. Correct? (Although, considering the upcoming transits, things are quite favourable with Mars' extended stay in the 7H and Ju moving to the 1H inf the 7H. Either way, this Mo subperiod will be significant). Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:38 PM Re: Re: Perplexed Hello dear Mr. Chuck and Mr. Matt, The sub period of the Moon is capable of bringing marriage as the Moon is prime determinant of marriage for those born in the ascending sign of Sagittarius. The strong influence of Jupiter on the seventh house is likely to keep the marriage happy. Best wishes. - " Matt Xiarhos " <hunt4genestocks Friday, August 10, 2007 1:34 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Chuck, The key here is that the Moon is strong, well-placed and unafflicting/unafflicted. Therefore, during its subperiods it will support its particular and general significations including the 8th house and the 2nd; where it is placed. During the subperiod of the Moon, as a malefic, as it transits the chart it will causes picks and pins but the separation from sensitive points is within hours. HOWEVER, she WILL need to be mindful of the transit influence of the nodes upon natal Moon AND natal Moon upon slow moving benefics. Hence, doing propitiations. This is why I indicated that you would have to look to the TTT's of Jupiter and Saturn (I focused on the positives for attaining marriage) but agreeably you need to look for the negatives to for when she could have some setbacks. Shri Choudhry, please correct me if this is incorrect.... Regards, Matt --- wakefieldvedic <radiopro55 wrote: > Dear Matt: Thank you for your thorough and insightful response. In > the > Professor's " Self Learning Course in Astrology " The indication for > both > the main and subperiod lords both being functional malefics is " will > cause sufferings " . So, my concern is that during the Moon subperiod, > she could actually attract someone who is a financial hard luck story > > and she should keep her heart out of her pocketbook. Perhaps I am > misunderstanding the role of the Moon here,so perhaps you could help > e > understand how anything positive could come out of the subperiod of > the > MMP. You stated that she will wed during the Moon subperiod, but did > not indicate whether or not it would subsequently be a happy > experience > for her or cause suffering. I was thinking the beginning of the > Jupiter > main period will be the time when she will wed happily. Best regards. > > Chuck > > ______________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dear Professor, Thank you, SA is very intuitive. I concluded the same in my response to Chuck by the strong PDOM sitting in the 2H, but running through the karaka list on another matter, made me wonder if the Ju or Mars period is more significant. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Friday, August 10, 2007 6:54 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Hello dear Vyas, The placement benefit of the Moon in the second house can give marriage. Best wishes. - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Friday, August 10, 2007 10:42 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Dear Professor, (Please forgive my ignorance) It is clear that the marital tie will be promoted in the Mo subperiod especially as the Moon is the prime determinant of marriage, is strong, unafflicted and in the 2H of family. However in understanding the TIMING of marriage, we look towards 7, 2, and 4Hs or the planets influencing these houses - present is Ju and Mars in H7, close to the MEP. The Moon is in wide aspect to the MEP. The logical conclusion is that the Ju subperiod (especially, and Mars also) will be more significant for marriage timing than the Moon's. Correct? (Although, considering the upcoming transits, things are quite favourable with Mars' extended stay in the 7H and Ju moving to the 1H inf the 7H. Either way, this Mo subperiod will be significant). Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:38 PM Re: Re: Perplexed Hello dear Mr. Chuck and Mr. Matt, The sub period of the Moon is capable of bringing marriage as the Moon is prime determinant of marriage for those born in the ascending sign of Sagittarius. The strong influence of Jupiter on the seventh house is likely to keep the marriage happy. Best wishes. - " Matt Xiarhos " <hunt4genestocks Friday, August 10, 2007 1:34 AM Re: Re: Perplexed Chuck, The key here is that the Moon is strong, well-placed and unafflicting/unafflicted. Therefore, during its subperiods it will support its particular and general significations including the 8th house and the 2nd; where it is placed. During the subperiod of the Moon, as a malefic, as it transits the chart it will causes picks and pins but the separation from sensitive points is within hours. HOWEVER, she WILL need to be mindful of the transit influence of the nodes upon natal Moon AND natal Moon upon slow moving benefics. Hence, doing propitiations. This is why I indicated that you would have to look to the TTT's of Jupiter and Saturn (I focused on the positives for attaining marriage) but agreeably you need to look for the negatives to for when she could have some setbacks. Shri Choudhry, please correct me if this is incorrect.... Regards, Matt --- wakefieldvedic <radiopro55 wrote: > Dear Matt: Thank you for your thorough and insightful response. In > the > Professor's " Self Learning Course in Astrology " The indication for > both > the main and subperiod lords both being functional malefics is " will > cause sufferings " . So, my concern is that during the Moon subperiod, > she could actually attract someone who is a financial hard luck story > > and she should keep her heart out of her pocketbook. Perhaps I am > misunderstanding the role of the Moon here,so perhaps you could help > e > understand how anything positive could come out of the subperiod of > the > MMP. You stated that she will wed during the Moon subperiod, but did > not indicate whether or not it would subsequently be a happy > experience > for her or cause suffering. I was thinking the beginning of the > Jupiter > main period will be the time when she will wed happily. Best regards. > > Chuck > > ______________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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