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Hello everyone,

 

What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

 

This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

freakishly spun out of control.

 

The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

 

Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

 

The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

 

There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

 

Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

date.

 

To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

" systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

issue?

 

Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

 

Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

and true to Systems Approach principles:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

Sun predicting the death of the father.

 

Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

 

Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

 

David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

was the case exactly!

 

Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

accidents " .

 

Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

 

Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

which is also commendable.

 

Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

sleight of hand enough for me!

 

This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

 

There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

her bio!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

 

I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

 

Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

 

Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

 

The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

characters.

 

A guru is a remover of darkness.

 

Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

 

Until we meet again...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

In , " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> story even more interesting...

>

> I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

>

> Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

>

> DOB: February 5, 1962

> TOB: 12:33pm

> POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> ZONE: 8 PST

>

> Taurus rising at 19:45

>

> The event date is July 23, 1982

>

> Good luck!

>

> Matt

>

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Hi Matt,

 

This was a good exercise. The death of father appeared to be the most likely

with the natal afflictions occuring in the 9H and the given transits. I was

wrong on the mechanism of how he died - I knew it was accidental and

violent, but weighed more on the side of it arising from dispute, fire etc.

With the tr Sun in 3H, I was certain that there was alot of movement

involved.

 

ADDITIONAL HINDSIGHT ANALYSIS: Venus, significator of flight was afflicted

by Jupiter from 6H Libra, and is placed in the 2H afflicted by Rahu. If this

TOB is accurate, D9 is also interesting, adding to the clarity of the event

as Ra aspects the ASC and Ke afflicts Sa, Ju and Ve, while the Sun and Me

are in Cn with the Mo in the 6H.

 

This was fun, let's do it again!

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" Matt " <MattX

 

Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10 PM

Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

 

This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

freakishly spun out of control.

 

The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

 

Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

 

The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

 

There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

 

Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

date.

 

To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

" systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

issue?

 

Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

 

Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

and true to Systems Approach principles:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

Sun predicting the death of the father.

 

Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

 

Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

 

David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

was the case exactly!

 

Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

accidents " .

 

Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

 

Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

which is also commendable.

 

Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

sleight of hand enough for me!

 

This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

 

There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

her bio!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

 

I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

 

Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

 

Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

 

The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

characters.

 

A guru is a remover of darkness.

 

Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

 

Until we meet again...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

In , " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> story even more interesting...

>

> I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

>

> Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

>

> DOB: February 5, 1962

> TOB: 12:33pm

> POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> ZONE: 8 PST

>

> Taurus rising at 19:45

>

> The event date is July 23, 1982

>

> Good luck!

>

> Matt

>

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Hi Matt,

 

Does this native have a violent personality?

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" Matt " <MattX

 

Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10 PM

Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

 

This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

freakishly spun out of control.

 

The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

 

Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

 

The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

 

There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

 

Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

date.

 

To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

" systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

issue?

 

Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

 

Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

and true to Systems Approach principles:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

Sun predicting the death of the father.

 

Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

 

Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

 

David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

was the case exactly!

 

Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

accidents " .

 

Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

 

Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

which is also commendable.

 

Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

sleight of hand enough for me!

 

This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

 

There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

her bio!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

 

I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

 

Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

 

Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

 

The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

characters.

 

A guru is a remover of darkness.

 

Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

 

Until we meet again...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

In , " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> story even more interesting...

>

> I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

>

> Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

>

> DOB: February 5, 1962

> TOB: 12:33pm

> POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> ZONE: 8 PST

>

> Taurus rising at 19:45

>

> The event date is July 23, 1982

>

> Good luck!

>

> Matt

>

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Vyas,

 

Yours was an excellent analysis. The influence of Venus makes it very

hard to know if a 6th house influence is present.

 

The TOB is from a Birth Certificate and as accurate as those things

go. The nodes being just PAST the MEP on the date of her father's

death does seem to suggest a birth time PERHAPS ONE MINUTE earlier

creating a 19:29 Taurus lagna with transit nodes applying at 19:38 on

the day of the event.

 

By the looks of things this was very popular and we should definitely

do it again!

 

Regards,

 

Matt

 

 

, " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:

>

> Hi Matt,

>

> This was a good exercise. The death of father appeared to be the

most likely

> with the natal afflictions occuring in the 9H and the given

transits. I was

> wrong on the mechanism of how he died - I knew it was accidental and

> violent, but weighed more on the side of it arising from dispute,

fire etc.

> With the tr Sun in 3H, I was certain that there was alot of movement

> involved.

>

> ADDITIONAL HINDSIGHT ANALYSIS: Venus, significator of flight was

afflicted

> by Jupiter from 6H Libra, and is placed in the 2H afflicted by Rahu.

If this

> TOB is accurate, D9 is also interesting, adding to the clarity of

the event

> as Ra aspects the ASC and Ke afflicts Sa, Ju and Ve, while the Sun

and Me

> are in Cn with the Mo in the 6H.

>

> This was fun, let's do it again!

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> " Matt " <MattX

>

> Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10 PM

> Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

> chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

>

> This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

> father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

> filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

> freakishly spun out of control.

>

> The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

> as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

> afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

> father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

>

> Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

> maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

> three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

> which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

>

> The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

> MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

> lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

>

> There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

> much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

> many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

> potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

>

> Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

> majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

> immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

> date.

>

> To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

> Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

> bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

> scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

> " systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

> issue?

>

> Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

> principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

> that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

> recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

> in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

>

> Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

> and true to Systems Approach principles:

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

> the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

> Sun predicting the death of the father.

>

> Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

> she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

> However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

> Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

>

> Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

>

> David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

> indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

> was the case exactly!

>

> Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

> of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

> accidents " .

>

> Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

> analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

> this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

>

> Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

> which is also commendable.

>

> Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

> is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

> largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

> but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

> sleight of hand enough for me!

>

> This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

> insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

> myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

>

> There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

> her bio!

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

>

> I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

> that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

> fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

> Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

>

> Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

> career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

> career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

> spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

>

> Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

> the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

> theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

>

> The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

> and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

> roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

> Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

> to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

> It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

> acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

> characters.

>

> A guru is a remover of darkness.

>

> Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

>

> Until we meet again...

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> In , " Matt " <MattX@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello list,

> >

> > We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> > everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> > this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> > and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> > story even more interesting...

> >

> > I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

> >

> > Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

> >

> > DOB: February 5, 1962

> > TOB: 12:33pm

> > POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> > ZONE: 8 PST

> >

> > Taurus rising at 19:45

> >

> > The event date is July 23, 1982

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> > Matt

> >

>

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Hello dear Matt and list members,

 

Mr. Matt selected a good blind chard analysis. Congratulations to all those

who successfully participated.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

" Matt " <MattX

 

Friday, July 13, 2007 4:40 AM

Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

 

This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

freakishly spun out of control.

 

The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

 

Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

 

The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

 

There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

 

Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

date.

 

To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

" systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

issue?

 

Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

 

Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

and true to Systems Approach principles:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

Sun predicting the death of the father.

 

Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

 

Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

 

David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

was the case exactly!

 

Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

accidents " .

 

Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

 

Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

which is also commendable.

 

Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

sleight of hand enough for me!

 

This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

 

There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

her bio!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

 

I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

 

Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

 

Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

 

The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

characters.

 

A guru is a remover of darkness.

 

Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

 

Until we meet again...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

In , " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> story even more interesting...

>

> I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

>

> Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

>

> DOB: February 5, 1962

> TOB: 12:33pm

> POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> ZONE: 8 PST

>

> Taurus rising at 19:45

>

> The event date is July 23, 1982

>

> Good luck!

>

> Matt

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Vyas,

 

Not to my knowledge. Most of the roles she played, however, did

involve some victimization either by or to her.

 

Regards,

 

Matt

 

, " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:

>

> Hi Matt,

>

> Does this native have a violent personality?

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> " Matt " <MattX

>

> Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10 PM

> Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

>

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Hello Matt,

 

This was a good to work out, I want to point out one things from my

analysis that Jupiter being lord of D12 was an additional

confirmatory in the analysis. D charts are important in any analysis.

 

Thanks and Regards

Amit

, " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

> chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

>

> This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

> father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982

while

> filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

> freakishly spun out of control.

>

> The key to this was the operating planetary periods of

Jupiter/Jupiter

> as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

> afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

> father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

>

> Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

> maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight

of

> three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all

of

> which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

>

> The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

> MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

> lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

>

> There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And

probably

> much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact

of

> many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for

many

> potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind

analysis.

>

> Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with

the

> majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

> immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an

event

> date.

>

> To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach

to

> Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

> bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

> scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

> " systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

> issue?

>

> Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

> principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

> that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

> recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as

outlined

> in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

>

> Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,,

insightful

> and true to Systems Approach principles:

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis

connecting

> the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

> Sun predicting the death of the father.

>

> Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

> she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

> However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

> Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

>

> Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

>

> David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

> indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident

which

> was the case exactly!

>

> Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family,

possibly

> of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health

or

> accidents " .

>

> Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and

straightforward

> analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

> this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

>

> Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or

parents

> which is also commendable.

>

> Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned

violent

> is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

> largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

> but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

> sleight of hand enough for me!

>

> This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

> insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

> myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

>

> There are more interesting things to be found about this chart

through

> her bio!

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

>

> I should like to mention the consistently of the character

portrayals

> that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

> fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

> Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a

psychopath!

>

> Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord

of

> career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

> career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

> spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive

outlet.

>

> Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

> the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

> theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

>

> The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

> and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

> roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

> Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

> to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

> It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for

her

> acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

> characters.

>

> A guru is a remover of darkness.

>

> Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

>

> Until we meet again...

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> In , " Matt " <MattX@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello list,

> >

> > We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> > everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> > this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one

area

> > and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made

the

> > story even more interesting...

> >

> > I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

> >

> > Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

> >

> > DOB: February 5, 1962

> > TOB: 12:33pm

> > POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> > ZONE: 8 PST

> >

> > Taurus rising at 19:45

> >

> > The event date is July 23, 1982

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> > Matt

> >

>

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Hello everyone -

 

This is indeed a very nice piece of puzzle. Analysis made by experienced people

make complete sense. Thanks to Matt for putting this together.

 

One question though....

Dead of father under most malefic influence is understandable due to the impact

of house 9. What makes it that violent. Is it the influence of Venus the 6th

lord? or something else. This is more specific to the analysis from David. The

other possibility for the cause might be Rahu/Ketu aspect conjunction.

 

Best regards,

Surya

 

 

 

Matt <MattX

 

Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10:06 PM

Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

 

Hello everyone,

 

What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

 

This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

freakishly spun out of control.

 

The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

 

Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

 

The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

 

There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

 

Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

date.

 

To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

" systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

issue?

 

Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

 

Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

and true to Systems Approach principles:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

Sun predicting the death of the father.

 

Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

 

Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

 

David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

was the case exactly!

 

Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

accidents " .

 

Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

 

Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

which is also commendable.

 

Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

sleight of hand enough for me!

 

This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

 

There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

her bio!

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Jennifer_ Jason_Leigh

 

I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

 

Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

 

Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

 

The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

characters.

 

A guru is a remover of darkness.

 

Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

 

Until we meet again...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

In @ s.com, " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> story even more interesting. ..

>

> I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

>

> Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

>

> DOB: February 5, 1962

> TOB: 12:33pm

> POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> ZONE: 8 PST

>

> Taurus rising at 19:45

>

> The event date is July 23, 1982

>

> Good luck!

>

> Matt

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Surya,

 

The natal conjunction amongst the 6/8, the Sun and Ketu, and the impact of

Ketu in transit is the key to this violent death.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" SURYA TYAGI " <suryat

 

Friday, July 13, 2007 11:03 AM

Re: Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

 

 

Hello everyone -

 

This is indeed a very nice piece of puzzle. Analysis made by experienced

people make complete sense. Thanks to Matt for putting this together.

 

One question though....

Dead of father under most malefic influence is understandable due to the

impact of house 9. What makes it that violent. Is it the influence of Venus

the 6th lord? or something else. This is more specific to the analysis from

David. The other possibility for the cause might be Rahu/Ketu aspect

conjunction.

 

Best regards,

Surya

 

 

 

Matt <MattX

 

Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10:06 PM

Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

 

Hello everyone,

 

What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

 

This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

freakishly spun out of control.

 

The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

 

Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

 

The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

 

There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

 

Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

date.

 

To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

" systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

issue?

 

Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

 

Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

and true to Systems Approach principles:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

Sun predicting the death of the father.

 

Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

 

Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

 

David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

was the case exactly!

 

Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

accidents " .

 

Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

 

Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

which is also commendable.

 

Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

sleight of hand enough for me!

 

This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

 

There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

her bio!

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Jennifer_ Jason_Leigh

 

I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

 

Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

 

Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

 

The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

characters.

 

A guru is a remover of darkness.

 

Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

 

Until we meet again...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

In @ s.com, " Matt " <MattX wrote:

>

> Hello list,

>

> We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> story even more interesting. ..

>

> I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

>

> Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

>

> DOB: February 5, 1962

> TOB: 12:33pm

> POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> ZONE: 8 PST

>

> Taurus rising at 19:45

>

> The event date is July 23, 1982

>

> Good luck!

>

> Matt

>

 

 

 

 

 

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dear matt.....

 

thank you for putting up the blind chart, and for following through on it...

 

yes, it is a very good testimonial to SA and professor choudhry.

 

many people were in the right area with their predictions.

 

best wishes to you and yours,

 

david hawthorne

--

 

 

 

 

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Dear Matt,

Thanks a lot for the interesting Blind Chart.

Regards

Raziya

 

Matt <MattX wrote:

Vyas,

 

Yours was an excellent analysis. The influence of Venus makes it very

hard to know if a 6th house influence is present.

 

The TOB is from a Birth Certificate and as accurate as those things

go. The nodes being just PAST the MEP on the date of her father's

death does seem to suggest a birth time PERHAPS ONE MINUTE earlier

creating a 19:29 Taurus lagna with transit nodes applying at 19:38 on

the day of the event.

 

By the looks of things this was very popular and we should definitely

do it again!

 

Regards,

 

Matt

 

, " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:

>

> Hi Matt,

>

> This was a good exercise. The death of father appeared to be the

most likely

> with the natal afflictions occuring in the 9H and the given

transits. I was

> wrong on the mechanism of how he died - I knew it was accidental and

> violent, but weighed more on the side of it arising from dispute,

fire etc.

> With the tr Sun in 3H, I was certain that there was alot of movement

> involved.

>

> ADDITIONAL HINDSIGHT ANALYSIS: Venus, significator of flight was

afflicted

> by Jupiter from 6H Libra, and is placed in the 2H afflicted by Rahu.

If this

> TOB is accurate, D9 is also interesting, adding to the clarity of

the event

> as Ra aspects the ASC and Ke afflicts Sa, Ju and Ve, while the Sun

and Me

> are in Cn with the Mo in the 6H.

>

> This was fun, let's do it again!

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> " Matt " <MattX

>

> Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:10 PM

> Blind Chart July 10, 2007 - THE REVEAL!!!!

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> What a wonderfully positive and overwhelming response to this blind

> chart thread (and I thought it might die off without a whimper!).

>

> This is the chart of the American actress Jennifer Jason Leigh whose

> father, actor Vic Morrow, was tragically killed on July 23, 1982 while

> filming on the movie set of " The Twilight Zone " by a helicopter that

> freakishly spun out of control.

>

> The key to this was the operating planetary periods of Jupiter/Jupiter

> as 8th lord of accidents/death. The violent influence of the exactly

> afflicting Ketu upon both Jupiter and the natal Sun, signifying

> father, all occuring in the 9th house signifying father.

>

> Separating out the other possibilities of the death of a spouse,

> maternal uncle, siblings or children was accomplished by the weight of

> three functional malefics operating in the 9th house of father; all of

> which are in close conjunction to the Sun which signifies father.

>

> The trigger was the transit affliction of the nodal axis across the

> MEP of the 2nd house of immediate family and the bhukti/subperiod

> lord's MEP of the 8th house; signifying accidents/death.

>

> There is a lot going on in this chart to say the least! And probably

> much that still hasn't yet manifested in her life. The close impact of

> many planets, both malefic and benefic all in one house, made for many

> potentialities which compelled me to post it up for a blind analysis.

>

> Yet, even with these complexities, Systems Approach prevailed with the

> majority of participants immediately focusing in on the death of an

> immediate relation with nothing more than some birth data and an event

> date.

>

> To me this is a great testimony to the accuracy of Systems Approach to

> Vedic Astrology that our preceptor, Shri Choudhry, has so generously

> bestowed upon us in the form of an understandable, methodical and

> scientific approach to this divine science. If it were not

> " systematic " how could so many participants zero in on the same life

> issue?

>

> Everyone contributed some insightful ideas and the application of SA

> principles where fairly consistent throughout. I noticed that those

> that came closest to the mark seemed to follow Shri Choudhry's

> recommended " How to Analyze a Chart in 3 Minutes " approach as outlined

> in his book " Impact of Ascending Signs " page 23.

>

> Posts by the following people were particularly accurate,, insightful

> and true to Systems Approach principles:

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama hit it dead on with his analysis connecting

> the 6L and 8L on the same degree in the 9th house with an afflicted

> Sun predicting the death of the father.

>

> Razia was very close indicating a death/divorce of a spouse though,

> she was unmarried at the time (which you couldn't have known!).

> However with the involvements of the karakas for spouse (either

> Jupiter or Venus both being involved) this is true to form.

>

> Shayn Smith zeroed in on the death of an immediate family member

>

> David Hawthorne (is it any surprise for our resident Guru?!?!?)

> indicated a loss of parents through fire, explosion or accident which

> was the case exactly!

>

> Amit with engineer-like analysis concluded " losses in family, possibly

> of father or elder brother, the circumstances could be their health or

> accidents " .

>

> Remi Panisset gets the award for the most concise and straightforward

> analysis that was precisely on target. Kudos! Everyone should read

> this post as a model example of brevity and honed SA skills.

>

> Guru narrowed it down to death by accident to mother-in-law or parents

> which is also commendable.

>

> Vyas indicated " Accidental death during a dispute that turned violent

> is indicated to a male family member, perhaps father. " This is

> largely correct is we expand the violence to something machine-based

> but, again, pinpointing the death of her father by accident alone is

> sleight of hand enough for me!

>

> This has been great! I really enjoyed reading the posts and getting

> insights into everyone's analysis. I wouldn't have done so well

> myself. So, I will keep posting Blind Charts instead! ;>)

>

> There are more interesting things to be found about this chart through

> her bio!

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jason_Leigh

>

> I should like to mention the consistently of the character portrayals

> that Jennifer Jason Leigh has had throughout her film career. It is

> fascinating to me that she has repeatedly portrayed prostitutes.

> Additionally, she has played drug or alcohol abusers and a psychopath!

>

> Take a look at the 12th lord of vices, Mars, conjunct the 11th lord of

> career, Saturn, in the 9th house of good fortune. This connects the

> career to vices like sex and drugs but through the 9th house of

> spirituality, father and good fortune it found a constructive outlet.

>

> Further, note the placement of the 5th lord Mercury near the MEP of

> the 9th house of good fortune connecting the Leo-like 5th house of

> theater, entertaining and showmanship with good fortune.

>

> The proximity of the Sun and Mercury is interesting because both she

> and her dad were " method " actors who immersed themselves in their

> roles through heavy research (Mercury) into their characters. Mrs.

> Leigh has even gone so far as interview sex workers and drug addicts

> to understand their lives for more accurate portrayal in her roles.

> It's an incredible chart of a remarkable woman who is revered for her

> acting abilities and the depth of emotional representation of her

> characters.

>

> A guru is a remover of darkness.

>

> Our Guru, Shri Choudhry, also removes " blindness " !

>

> Until we meet again...

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> In , " Matt " <MattX@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello list,

> >

> > We used to do blind charts on this list and its a great way for

> > everyone to contribute observations and hone their skills. I cast

> > this chart and was struck by the complexities occurring in one area

> > and was intrigued to look at some biographical data and that made the

> > story even more interesting...

> >

> > I encourage you to cast the chart and post any observations.

> >

> > Here's a hint: it's not a health event for the native.

> >

> > DOB: February 5, 1962

> > TOB: 12:33pm

> > POB: Los Angeles, CA 118W15, 34N03

> > ZONE: 8 PST

> >

> > Taurus rising at 19:45

> >

> > The event date is July 23, 1982

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> > Matt

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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