Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Hello List, What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. Thanks, Regards, Fraser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Fraser: I am also learning on from the books and website of Professor Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet in the rasi chart is weakened in its general and particular significations if it occupies its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... for further clarification regarding your question you may want to check out the following study aid from 's website: www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm It gives sections of information on the study of Divisional Charts .. Best Wishes, Mew , " fraser " <fraser wrote: > > Hello List, > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > Thanks, > Regards, > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hi Mary and Fraser, It doesn't matter so much what navamsha the ascendant degree falls in. First we consider the ascendant sign itslef, and if there's an MTH in H1, you consider the condition and place of the LO1. If there is no MTH in H1, check for MTH lords in H3 and next H2. Close-exact influences on these are to be noted as they will have a strong effect. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:12 PM Re: different traits Dear Fraser: I am also learning on from the books and website of Professor Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet in the rasi chart is weakened in its general and particular significations if it occupies its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... for further clarification regarding your question you may want to check out the following study aid from 's website: www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm It gives sections of information on the study of Divisional Charts .. Best Wishes, Mew , " fraser " <fraser wrote: > > Hello List, > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > Thanks, > Regards, > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hello Vyas: Thank you for your further clarification regarding traits ... it is much appreciated. Best Wishes, Mary - Vyas Munidas Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:40 PM Re: Re: different traits Hi Mary and Fraser, It doesn't matter so much what navamsha the ascendant degree falls in. First we consider the ascendant sign itslef, and if there's an MTH in H1, you consider the condition and place of the LO1. If there is no MTH in H1, check for MTH lords in H3 and next H2. Close-exact influences on these are to be noted as they will have a strong effect. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:12 PM Re: different traits Dear Fraser: I am also learning on from the books and website of Professor Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet in the rasi chart is weakened in its general and particular significations if it occupies its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... for further clarification regarding your question you may want to check out the following study aid from 's website: www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm It gives sections of information on the study of Divisional Charts .. Best Wishes, Mew , " fraser " <fraser wrote: > > Hello List, > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > Thanks, > Regards, > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hello Fraser, When Aq rises in D9, Saturn becomes an additional signifactor for Marriage , Spouse and Fortune, its placement and Strength in D1 and D9 is to be considered for further analysis and clarity for the same signficance. Weakness and/ or affliction to Saturn in D1 will obstruct Marriage, Spouse and Fortune during its sub-periods in addition to its general and particular significance in D1. Regards Amit , " fraser " <fraser wrote: > > Hello List, > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > Thanks, > Regards, > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Thank You, Mary -Vyas, OK This is what I am looking for. example: a native with Aquarius Navamsha will have a darker skin tone and will have rounded cheek bones and will normally have that rude tone in speaking. Will also have trouble with superiors at place of work. A native with Capricorn Navamsha will have a fairer skin tone and will be sweet in speech and will have no trouble at place of work, etc etc.... ---When the birth time changes slightly and we notice that the Asc. of the Navamsha has hopped over to the next sign, we could assimilate the traits from the Asc. of the Navamsha to determine the more 'correct' birth time. Events in a person's life may not give conclusive results, but the Navamsha calculations are said to be conclusive. This may not be SA per se, but how is one to decide what is the MEP and its orb if the birth time is always in question. Human physical traits and mannerisms are noticeable even in children with the use of Navamsha calculations. Or do we always have to wait till the native is in his thirties to double check with events in his life, to figure out the birth time. If any of you think that I'm trying to be funny, consider this: I was born a C-section in 1958. Do you get it ? There has to be a better way to determine birth time, than having to ask spiritually evolved people for favours. First correct birthtime then we can have correct results with SA. Regards, Fraser , " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew wrote: > > Hello Vyas: > > Thank you for your further clarification regarding traits ... it is much appreciated. > > Best Wishes, > > Mary > > - > Vyas Munidas > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:40 PM > Re: Re: different traits > > > Hi Mary and Fraser, > > It doesn't matter so much what navamsha the ascendant degree falls in. First > we consider the ascendant sign itslef, and if there's an MTH in H1, you > consider the condition and place of the LO1. If there is no MTH in H1, check > for MTH lords in H3 and next H2. Close-exact influences on these are to be > noted as they will have a strong effect. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:12 PM > Re: different traits > > Dear Fraser: > > I am also learning on from the books and website of Professor > Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet in the rasi chart is > weakened in its general and particular significations if it occupies > its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... for further > clarification regarding your question you may want to check out the > following study aid from 's website: > > www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm > > It gives sections of information on the study of Divisional Charts .. > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > , " fraser " <fraser@> wrote: > > > > Hello List, > > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Thank You, Amit. This is exactly what I'm looking for. But some physical traits and such would help the delineation better- don't want to really wait till marriage years. Thanks again. Regards, Fraser , " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6 wrote: > > > Hello Fraser, > > When Aq rises in D9, Saturn becomes an additional signifactor for > Marriage , Spouse and Fortune, its placement and Strength in D1 and D9 > is to be considered for further analysis and clarity for the same > signficance. > > Weakness and/ or affliction to Saturn in D1 will obstruct Marriage, > Spouse and Fortune during its sub-periods in addition to its general and > particular significance in D1. > > Regards > > Amit , " fraser " <fraser@> wrote: > > > > Hello List, > > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Fraser > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Professor What is your opinion about Fraser,s analysis. Willthe navamsha placement of the Ascendent gives the rectification of birth time, pl. guide us. Gorur N Swamy > Thank You, Mary -Vyas, > OK This is what I am looking for. > example: a native with Aquarius Navamsha will have a > darker skin tone > and will have rounded cheek bones and will normally > have that rude > tone in speaking. Will also have trouble with > superiors at place of > work. > A native with Capricorn Navamsha will have a fairer > skin tone and > will be sweet in speech and will have no trouble at > place of work, > etc etc.... > > ---When the birth time changes slightly and we > notice that the Asc. > of the Navamsha has hopped over to the next sign, we > could assimilate > the traits from the Asc. of the Navamsha to > determine the > more 'correct' birth time. Events in a person's life > may not give > conclusive results, but the Navamsha calculations > are said to be > conclusive. > > This may not be SA per se, but how is one to decide > what is the MEP > and its orb if the birth time is always in question. > Human physical > traits and mannerisms are noticeable even in > children with the use of > Navamsha calculations. Or do we always have to wait > till the native > is in his thirties to double check with events in > his life, to figure > out the birth time. If any of you think that I'm > trying to be funny, > consider this: I was born a C-section in 1958. Do > you get it ? > > There has to be a better way to determine birth > time, than having to > ask spiritually evolved people for favours. > > First correct birthtime then we can have correct > results with SA. > > Regards, > Fraser > > > , " Mary Ellen Wright " > <wdwmew > wrote: > > > > Hello Vyas: > > > > Thank you for your further clarification regarding > traits ... it is > much appreciated. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mary > > > > - > > Vyas Munidas > > > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:40 PM > > Re: Re: different traits > > > > > > Hi Mary and Fraser, > > > > It doesn't matter so much what navamsha the > ascendant degree > falls in. First > > we consider the ascendant sign itslef, and if > there's an MTH in > H1, you > > consider the condition and place of the LO1. If > there is no MTH > in H1, check > > for MTH lords in H3 and next H2. Close-exact > influences on these > are to be > > noted as they will have a strong effect. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew > > > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:12 PM > > Re: different traits > > > > Dear Fraser: > > > > I am also learning on from the books and website > of Professor > > Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet > in the rasi chart > is > > weakened in its general and particular > significations if it > occupies > > its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... > for further > > clarification regarding your question you may > want to check out > the > > following study aid from 's > website: > > > > www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm > > > > It gives sections of information on the study of > Divisional > Charts .. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mew > > > > , " fraser " > <fraser@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello List, > > > What could be the differences in the traits of > a native, if he > is > > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn > Navamsha. > > > Thanks, > > > Regards, > > > Fraser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hello Mr. Swamy, In SA divisional charts are used for trying the strength of planets. Best wishes. - " gorur nswamy " <bhojamysore Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:42 AM Re: Re: different traits | | Dear Professor | What is your opinion about Fraser,s | analysis. Willthe navamsha placement of the Ascendent | gives the rectification of birth time, pl. guide us. | Gorur N Swamy | | > Thank You, Mary -Vyas, | > OK This is what I am looking for. | > example: a native with Aquarius Navamsha will have a | > darker skin tone | > and will have rounded cheek bones and will normally | > have that rude | > tone in speaking. Will also have trouble with | > superiors at place of | > work. | > A native with Capricorn Navamsha will have a fairer | > skin tone and | > will be sweet in speech and will have no trouble at | > place of work, | > etc etc.... | > | > ---When the birth time changes slightly and we | > notice that the Asc. | > of the Navamsha has hopped over to the next sign, we | > could assimilate | > the traits from the Asc. of the Navamsha to | > determine the | > more 'correct' birth time. Events in a person's life | > may not give | > conclusive results, but the Navamsha calculations | > are said to be | > conclusive. | > | > This may not be SA per se, but how is one to decide | > what is the MEP | > and its orb if the birth time is always in question. | > Human physical | > traits and mannerisms are noticeable even in | > children with the use of | > Navamsha calculations. Or do we always have to wait | > till the native | > is in his thirties to double check with events in | > his life, to figure | > out the birth time. If any of you think that I'm | > trying to be funny, | > consider this: I was born a C-section in 1958. Do | > you get it ? | > | > There has to be a better way to determine birth | > time, than having to | > ask spiritually evolved people for favours. | > | > First correct birthtime then we can have correct | > results with SA. | > | > Regards, | > Fraser | > | > | > , " Mary Ellen Wright " | > <wdwmew | > wrote: | > > | > > Hello Vyas: | > > | > > Thank you for your further clarification regarding | > traits ... it is | > much appreciated. | > > | > > Best Wishes, | > > | > > Mary | > > | > > - | > > Vyas Munidas | > > | > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:40 PM | > > Re: Re: different traits | > > | > > | > > Hi Mary and Fraser, | > > | > > It doesn't matter so much what navamsha the | > ascendant degree | > falls in. First | > > we consider the ascendant sign itslef, and if | > there's an MTH in | > H1, you | > > consider the condition and place of the LO1. If | > there is no MTH | > in H1, check | > > for MTH lords in H3 and next H2. Close-exact | > influences on these | > are to be | > > noted as they will have a strong effect. | > > | > > Best regards, | > > | > > Vyas Munidas | > > | > > - | > > " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew | > > | > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:12 PM | > > Re: different traits | > > | > > Dear Fraser: | > > | > > I am also learning on from the books and website | > of Professor | > > Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet | > in the rasi chart | > is | > > weakened in its general and particular | > significations if it | > occupies | > > its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... | > for further | > > clarification regarding your question you may | > want to check out | > the | > > following study aid from 's | > website: | > > | > > www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm | > > | > > It gives sections of information on the study of | > Divisional | > Charts .. | > > | > > Best Wishes, | > > | > > Mew | > > | > > , " fraser " | > <fraser@> wrote: | > > > | > > > Hello List, | > > > What could be the differences in the traits of | > a native, if he | > is | > > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn | > Navamsha. | > > > Thanks, | > > > Regards, | > > > Fraser | > > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > [Non-text portions of this message have been | > removed] | > > | > | > | > | | | | | ______________________________\ ____ | It's here! Your new message! | Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. | http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hello Fraser, D9 is not used to look for physical traits anyway, its purpose is different, you dont need to wait till marriage years, because whether you want to wait or not, you will reach there anyway . Physical traits are ascertained from D1 only. Regards Amit , " fraser " <fraser wrote: > > Thank You, Amit. > This is exactly what I'm looking for. > But some physical traits and such would help the delineation better- > don't want to really wait till marriage years. > Thanks again. > Regards, > Fraser > > > > , " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6@> > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Fraser, > > > > When Aq rises in D9, Saturn becomes an additional signifactor for > > Marriage , Spouse and Fortune, its placement and Strength in D1 and > D9 > > is to be considered for further analysis and clarity for the same > > signficance. > > > > Weakness and/ or affliction to Saturn in D1 will obstruct Marriage, > > Spouse and Fortune during its sub-periods in addition to its > general and > > particular significance in D1. > > > > Regards > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " fraser " <fraser@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello List, > > > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > > > Thanks, > > > Regards, > > > Fraser > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Fraser, This link should help http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/b05.htm thanks Amit , " fraser " <fraser wrote: > > Thank You, Amit. > This is exactly what I'm looking for. > But some physical traits and such would help the delineation better- > don't want to really wait till marriage years. > Thanks again. > Regards, > Fraser > > > > , " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6@> > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Fraser, > > > > When Aq rises in D9, Saturn becomes an additional signifactor for > > Marriage , Spouse and Fortune, its placement and Strength in D1 and > D9 > > is to be considered for further analysis and clarity for the same > > signficance. > > > > Weakness and/ or affliction to Saturn in D1 will obstruct Marriage, > > Spouse and Fortune during its sub-periods in addition to its > general and > > particular significance in D1. > > > > Regards > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " fraser " <fraser@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello List, > > > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > > > Thanks, > > > Regards, > > > Fraser > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hello, Fraser, Where can I find the traits as for each Navamsha? Since the timing of birth time is very crucial for SA. and, to me, you make the point. Otherwise, we have to wait until some significant thing happen to the native. Khin. fraser <fraser wrote: Thank You, Mary -Vyas, OK This is what I am looking for. example: a native with Aquarius Navamsha will have a darker skin tone and will have rounded cheek bones and will normally have that rude tone in speaking. Will also have trouble with superiors at place of work. A native with Capricorn Navamsha will have a fairer skin tone and will be sweet in speech and will have no trouble at place of work, etc etc.... ---When the birth time changes slightly and we notice that the Asc. of the Navamsha has hopped over to the next sign, we could assimilate the traits from the Asc. of the Navamsha to determine the more 'correct' birth time. Events in a person's life may not give conclusive results, but the Navamsha calculations are said to be conclusive. This may not be SA per se, but how is one to decide what is the MEP and its orb if the birth time is always in question. Human physical traits and mannerisms are noticeable even in children with the use of Navamsha calculations. Or do we always have to wait till the native is in his thirties to double check with events in his life, to figure out the birth time. If any of you think that I'm trying to be funny, consider this: I was born a C-section in 1958. Do you get it ? There has to be a better way to determine birth time, than having to ask spiritually evolved people for favours. First correct birthtime then we can have correct results with SA. Regards, Fraser , " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew wrote: > > Hello Vyas: > > Thank you for your further clarification regarding traits ... it is much appreciated. > > Best Wishes, > > Mary > > - > Vyas Munidas > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:40 PM > Re: Re: different traits > > > Hi Mary and Fraser, > > It doesn't matter so much what navamsha the ascendant degree falls in. First > we consider the ascendant sign itslef, and if there's an MTH in H1, you > consider the condition and place of the LO1. If there is no MTH in H1, check > for MTH lords in H3 and next H2. Close-exact influences on these are to be > noted as they will have a strong effect. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Mary Ellen Wright " <wdwmew > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:12 PM > Re: different traits > > Dear Fraser: > > I am also learning on from the books and website of Professor > Choudhry ... my understanding is that a planet in the rasi chart is > weakened in its general and particular significations if it occupies > its debilitated sign in the navamsa chart ... for further > clarification regarding your question you may want to check out the > following study aid from 's website: > > www.yournetastrologer.com/theoryin.htm > > It gives sections of information on the study of Divisional Charts .. > > Best Wishes, > > Mew > > , " fraser " <fraser@> wrote: > > > > Hello List, > > What could be the differences in the traits of a native, if he is > > Aquarius Navamsha as opposed to Capricorn Navamsha. > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Fraser > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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