Missing medical student-thanks

June 5, 2007

Dear Sri Sainiji,

Thanks for the kind words.Some ten days ago, my gardner's son had eloped with a

girl and got married.The gardner asked me to tell him, when he will come back? I

used SA to predict the day of his return and possibly the date of receiving news

and Lo! it was correct.All credit goes to the illustrious Jyotishacharya

Prof.V.K.Choudhry, who has given the wealth of his learning to all of us.If you

have the time to take a look at this case, I can get the chart ready for you?

Best Regards

S.Bhagavadpada

-

Aman Deep Saini

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:05 AM

RE: PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings (The Case of the

Missing Medical Student [Case 12])

Congratulations to you sir. Its all because of you that we have learnt

astrology. We learnt from this case in the conference from you which was a

good experience.

Regards

Aman

On Behalf

Of siha

Monday, June 04, 2007 11:49 AM

Re: PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings (The Case of the

Missing Medical Student [Case 12])

Hello dear Aman,

Thanks for the update and congratulations for your predictions.

Best wishes.

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" Aman Deep Saini " <amandsaini

Monday, June 04, 2007 11:22 AM

RE: PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings (The Case of

the Missing Medical Student [Case 12])

| Dear list members,

|

| This mail is in continuation to the case studies discussed during IInd

IIPA

| SA Conference in February 2007. I presented a case of a medical student

who

| was missing and her parents were worried to know for her whereabouts.

|

| Based on SA analysis it was predicted that the girl shall return after 3

to

| 4 months and her disappearance is willful.

|

| The girl has met her parents on May 31st 2007. She left home and got

| married. At present she is on family way and does not want to return back

to

| her parents.

|

| Last year this girl left her home and got married as per her wish without

| telling anyone. Since then she never contacted back her parents. Somehow

| parents came to know about the details of boy with whom she got married.

Boy

| was also missing from his home. Police was searching both of them since

| months. On advertising in all the News Papers the land lord of this couple

| identified them and forced them to come back. They were living in Jaipur.

| Girl's parents filed a case in Delhi court against boy however on girl's

| statement in her husband's favor, nothing could be done against him. The

| girl also took away Rs. 5 Lacs from home when she left. It seems that they

| are still surviving on that money.

|

| Point to note here is that as Prof. Choudhary said that affliction from

| transit stationary nodes to natal 4th lord Venus and 10th lord Mars shall

| delay the return. Till May 30th this affliction was within 1 degree orb.

On

| May 31st only the nodes moved away by 1 degree.

|

| At present transit 8th lord Saturn is exactly afflicting the 1st, 3rd, 7th

| and 10th house MEP in girl's chart in addition to Natal Moon (Ascendant

| Lord). The problems have not yet gone. Multiple afflictions are still

| present in the chart and the coming time will teach a lot of lessons to

this

| girl the hard way.

|

| May God give strength to the parents to bear this humiliation and

emotional

| loss. So far they have spent Rs. 12 Lacs in searching this girl in

addition

| to the money she took away with her. When this girl was with them and they

| approached me to know why she doesn't have interest in studies, they were

| suggested for the girl to perform SA charities and wear appropriate gems

and

| Kavach. They never followed the advice.

|

| Thanks

|

| Aman Deep Saini

|

| _____

|

| SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

| SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA

| Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:23 PM

| ; SAMVA ;

| siha

| PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings

|

| Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,

|

| Namasthe.PART-3 of the IIPA Intl Conf -II, Proceedings follows and is also

| attached. For those who could not attend the Conf, this summary may give

an

| idea of the discussions that went on in the Conf, and the light thrown by

| the Professor on various charts with currently prevailing-problems.

|

| In 'cutting and pasting', I'm afraid, the relative positioning of the Rasi

| chart, the Navamsa chart and the Vimshottari-Dasa 'clock-time' has

suffered

| an undesirable shuffling.At least in the Attachment, I hope the original

| order has been preserved.

|

| Best Regards

|

| Sankara Bhagavadpada

|

| International Institute of Predictive Astrology [iIPA], Fairfield, USA.

|

| IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers

|

| Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.

|

| Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.

|

| PROCEEDINGS-PART 3

|

| Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,

|

| Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by the respected

|

| ; in this last & concluding Part-3, I shall summarize the

| events of the second day. In Part-2, which I had already sent to the SATVA

&

| the SAMVA groups; I had covered a greater portion of the first day's

| Proceedings. It may be recalled that in Part-1, I had covered Prof. V. K.

| Choudhry's inaugural address as well as the salient features of the

Conf.

|

| 1. Sri. Ramana Maharshi's Moksha seen through the eyes of the Systems

| Approach:

|

| This was the first session on the morning of the 2nd day. As Prof Choudhry

| has been gracious enough to make available the PPP of my talk on one of

his

| websites: <http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/>

www.jyotishremedies121.com,

| for the benefit of all; I am being spared the labour of summarizing my

own

| talk. Put very briefly, I spoke on just the TSE pertaining to the

Maharshi's

| Moksha, using the SA in the spheres of Dharma and Moksha. I quoted all the

| pertinent SA sutras as well as presented all necessary foundational

| principles- in the light of which alone, this Moksha TSE becomes

| intelligible in the SA framework.

|

| 2. A Case of 'delayed marriage' [Case-10], Presented by Cmdr. Ashutosh

| Pandey:

|

| We were informed that this lady was 31 yrs old and that though efforts

were

| afoot to identify a suitable husband for her in the course of the last 6

| yrs, no alliance was proving to be favourable. [Just to make 'the

| phenomenon of delay in marriage' intelligible to some SA astrologers, who

| may not be so conversant with the Hindu ethos, w.r.t. marriages; at this

| point, I am obliged to grant myself the liberty of saying in an aside:

The

| anxiety, such a long drawn out 'delay in marriage' causes to the parents

of

| a young lady in a Hindu society, can be appreciated only when we realize

the

| paramount importance that has always been attached to the

| 'social-structure of marriage' in a traditional Hindu society. For both

the

| man as well as the woman, marriage was designed to give stability,

economic

| & emotional security and finally, dependability and a certain permanence

in

| relationship. It was upon the bed-rock of such an enduring marriage that

the

| pillars of all other achievements in life were erected in that traditional

| Hindu society.]

|

| , looking at the chart, pointed out that the MMP, Sa

afflicted

| exactly, the IH, VIIH, IIIH and the XH, while the Asdt Lord Mo was also

| exactly afflicted by the VIH Lord, Ju. The XH was afflicted exactly and

the

| XH Lord was deb in the IH, which was exactly afflicted by the MMP. Ve, the

| significator of marriage was also badly placed in the XIIH, and exactly

| combust and the Su, the prime determinant of marriage was also weak by

| placement in the XIIH. Prof's verdict was unequivocal: " Without Remedies,

no

| chance of getting married at all. "

|

| 3. A Case of Penalization by the Police [Case 11]:

|

| In the pre-lunch session, another Case of an armed security person was

| discussed. This case was brought up by Sri R. Hasija. In discharging his

| responsibility as an armed security personnel, this person was obliged to

| fire on a crowd and in the process, five people died. Accordingly he was

| charged for murder and continued to be in police custody, in spite of the

| fact that post-mortem examinations had conclusively proved that the death

of

| the victims was not due to the bullets fired by him. Apparently he was

| suffering a karmic nemesis and the Q that was put to Prof Choudhry was,

when

| would he be set free?

|

| The weakness of the VI Lord Me, on account of the exact affliction from

Ke,

| the Prof held to be an imp factor in making him vulnerable to losses in

| litigations. The close impact of the VI Lord Me on the Asdt, again made

him

| vulnerable to court cases. The currently occurring Tr stationary condition

| of the nodes, exactly over the natal nodes was the Tr event responsible

for

| immediately triggering the police case. As the event happened in the

| sub-period of Sa, which is badly placed in the VIH, the time of the

| sub-period was also favourable for VIH events like litigations, police

| actions etc.. In the Ma-Me sub-period, which follows [ w.e.f. 19-8-'07

till

| 16-8-'08], as the time becomes even more unfavourable for release, Prof

| Choudhry concluded his remarks by saying that if someone else undertakes

to

| do the remedies for him, that would bring in grace for his release.

|

| 4. The Case of the Missing Medical Student [Case 12], Presented by Sri.

Aman

| Deep Saini:

|

| Sri Sainiji, mentioned that the parents of this girl had originally

| approached him only because her educational performance had been poor.

| Though remedies were prescribed, they were never performed and now the

| parents apparently came back to Sainiji to report the very disturbing news

| of her disappearance from home. Apparently the girl has abandoned her

| studies and has been missing for sometime. The anguished family had asked

| Sainiji two Qs, which he placed before the Prof. Q1: When will she come

| back? Q2: Could we know something about her whereabouts?

|

| Note: Here it may not be out of place to recapitulate what the SA has to

say

| w.r.t. 'missing persons.' In the recent work: Predictive Techniques, the

| Prof & Sri Rajesh Chaudhary have dealt with this astrological problem on

Pg

| 83, under the title 'Timing Return of Missing Persons'. Therein, the SA

| Sutras governing the phenomenon of missing persons is gathered together in

| one place and the distinction is made between willful disappearance as

| against involuntary disappearance. 12 Case Studies follow to illustrate

the

| Sutras.

|

| Commenting on willful disappearance in the above work, we are told that

this

| occurs because of a possible emotional entanglement, or on account of

| excessive fear, or even on account of a difference of opinion or a

quarrel.

| Involuntary disappearance on the other hand comes to pass either because

of

| a sudden illness on the way or due to abduction or even due a failure of

the

| means to communicate.

|

| In the present case, Prof Choudhry said, the main cause of the

| disappearance is to be seen in the placement of the X Lord in the VIH.

Thus

| this is a case of willful disappearance. The SA holds that the impact of

the

| nodes is more pertinent in such cases. The currently occurring affliction

| created by Tr stationary nodes, on the natal IV Lord Ve and the natal X

Lord

| Ma was going to delay the return of the individual by 3 to 4 months and

that

| in this intervening time, problems will be intense. The Prof was alluding

to

| also Tr Ju & Tr Sa afflicting the Asdt at the present time and thereby

| intensifying the existing problem. Making these clarifying and assuring

| remarks, the Prof said, " there is however no risk to her life and

| longevity. "

|

| 5. Light on the Chart of a Spiritual Leader by the Prof [Case

|

| 13]:

|

| The Yogi in Q was born in 1929 in North India and passed away a couple of

| years ago. The Prof brought in this chart to throw light on spiritual as

| well as medical astrology. The Yogi, who was a spiritual leader was a

family

| man, but this did not deter him from rendering excellent humanitarian

| services for the world at large.

|

| When I asked the Prof for further clarifications, he added that the Yogi

had

| very high spiritual aspirations and a spiritual will to do good things [as

| seen from the strong Su & Ju ruling over the houses of overseas &

| aspirations]. He had provided for massive educational patronage through a

| network of schools, to further the cause of educating girl children of his

| community. The entire endowment was made to a famous temple on an annual

| basis, for the temple undertook to do the said social & humanitarian work.

|

| The SA holds that any chart in which the Su & Ju are strong, is

necessarily

| a spiritual chart. The Aquarius Asdt, ruled by Sa, the planet of service,

is

| also a 'good vehicle' for launching such spiritual services. It should

| however be noted that he did not renounce the world- and this is in

keeping

| with his spiritual planets ruling the Hs of will & aspiration [Kama Hs].

|

| The Prof was called upon to give astrological guidance to the Yogi, who at

| that time was beset with health problems. This can be seen from the deb of

| Sa, the Asdt Lord, in both the D-9 as well as the D-6 charts. In addition

| the exact nodal affliction to the Mo, the VI Lord, giving general health,

| and the placement of the dispositor of the Mo in the most malefic

| VIIIH-worsened the whole situation w.r.t. health. It was the weakness of

Ve,

| on which many of his health problems were centered. This weak Ve and the

| affliction to its dispositor had given him some problems with his kidneys

as

| also diabetes.

|

| This was a little shocking when I learnt about it, since the Su, the

| significator of digestion; Ju, the significator of the liver & pancreas;

and

| the sign Leo, the significator of digestion - all of them are strong in

the

| natal chart, quite contrary to the cases of many diabetics, who have more

| than one of these 'variables of diabetes', in a weak or afflicted

condition.

| The Prof recommended a change of diet for the Yogi and also gave him a

| Kavach, after which, his health took a turn for the better.

|

| In this context the Prof mentioned in passing that there were two other

| Pontiffs from South India, who were also wearing his Kavachs. We were

told

| that during an astrology conf in Ghaziabad, where Prof Choudhry had an

| occasion to share the dais with one of the Jagadgurus of the

'Sankaracharya

| Order', had asked for the Prof's visiting card, as he was contemplating

| inviting the Prof for another astrological conf, which he was probably

| hoping to organize. In this way we learnt of many anecdotal references to

| the world of astrologers and spiritual leaders.

|

| 6. The Professional Setback of an Industrialist [Case 14]:

|

| This was another illustrative example [born 1940, Capricorn Asdt] brought

| forward by Prof Choudhry, just to drive home how insensitive & unconscious

| people often are w.r.t. their own sufferings. The individual concerned had

| been under the onslaught of a prolonged professional setback since the

last

| 6 yrs and only now, through the kind offices of one of the Prof's

disciples

| in Chennai, he had the good fortune of coming to the Prof for a much

needed

| consultation.

|

| The individual in Q certainly had the grace of God, as testified by his

| strong IXH Lord Me, well placed in the XIH of aspirations & income. This

was

| the reason he could meet the Prof in the first place. In addition he had

two

| unafflicted benefic planets, a deb Ve and Ma, placed in the IXH of

fortune.

| As against these blessings, his chart had horrendous afflictions to the

IVH

| & the XH, the MTHs of the planets Ve & Ma placed in the IXH. The XH was

| exactly afflicted by the MMP, the Su, which is deb in that H; while Sa,

| ruling the IIH of status & accumulated wealth, is not only deb but under

an

| exact afflicting conj from the loss giving planet Ju. To worsen matters,

Sa,

| which is also the planet for professional status also suffers a close

| affliction from the MMP, the Su. Thus horrendous afflictions to home life

as

| well as professional life is seen in the chart. There is also a close

nodal

| affliction from Ra to the IH, the IIIH of business and the VH of

speculative

| ventures. Ke closely afflicts the VIIH of long standing business

| partnerships, the IXH, as well as the XIH of income & gains.

|

| Prof Choudhry looking at this chart with multiple afflictions, asked him

to

| commence the daily propitiatory charities and continue them

uninterruptedly

| for 3 months, so that he will get some relief. When the individual heard

the

| words '3 months', he broke down, was in tears and told the Prof that he

| would rather die - so critical was his crisis.

|

| He was initially only a trader and exporter in garments, but Ra, closely

| impacting on the I & V Hs gave him the ambitious urge to move from being

| merely a trader into being a more respectable manufacturer! While Ra

places

| this temptation on his path and a strong Me as the Lord of fortune in the

| XIH, gave him the impetus to aspire for this rise; the deb and profoundly

| afflicted status Lord Sa and the XH, were working in another direction -

| namely to deny him this 'aspired for rise'; unless he came on the path of

| the Remedial Measures. These complex forces of destiny, made him take a

loan

| of 2 crores from a Bank and today he remains as a debtor with a liability

of

| 6 crores. This was his predicament.

|

| Prof Choudhry pointed out that in the currently running Su-Ve sub-period,

| the affliction to the MTH of Ve, from the MMP, was fated to come to the

| fore. Additionally even the MMP, which would have given easy gains were it

| strong; was not only weak but also suffered a close affliction from the FM

| Ju. Throughout the Su major period, which began w.e.f. Aug '01, the

| individual had been under tremendous professional duress and the severity

of

| the afflictions was such that he could come to the Prof only during the

last

| sub-period of the Su major period. It was remarked by the Prof

|

| that the currently prevailing Tr Ju's affliction to Tr Sa, will keep the

| condition aggravated for a few more months. He was then to go on to

another

| Capricorn Asdt chart, where the afflictions were also grievous, but as the

| individual had come on the path of the Remedial Measures, since the last 3

| yrs, he became fortunate in securing the grace through the propitiatory

| charities, the Kavach and also some gemstones[see Sec.10, Case 17].

|

| 7. Another Case of Professional Instability[Case 15]:

|

| An individual [born 1965, Scorpio Asdt] far away from his homeland [india]

| used to on & off suffer professional downswings and on such occasions the

| Prof used to receive distress telephone calls and he then had to not only

| prescribe the astrological Remedial Measures, but also lift up the spirits

| of the individual and set him going again on the path of inspired action

in

| spite of all odds. Though the Prof discharged these humanitarian

| responsibilities with equanimity, even for him there was a limit beyond

| which, it became difficult to take on the limitless responsibility of a

| 'consoling father-figure & spiritual Master'.

|

| The individual during such distress calls used to repeatedly entertain the

| options of ending his own life or death. His professional failures were so

| recurrent and so difficult to overcome. In his chart, it was pointed out

| that the FM Ma afflicted the IH, the XH of profession, the IVH of

| contentment as well as the VH of speculative ventures & love in

expression.

| The Scorpio Asdt was also under the exact nodal affliction from the

exalted

| nodes. Me the lord of income was deb in the natal chart, the MTH of its

| placement was exactly afflicted by Ke while its own MTH came under the

exact

| affliction from Ra. Worst still, such a deb Me also suffered an exact

| affliction from natal Ke. The Mo, the Lord of fortune was well placed in

the

| XIH, although very weak and the only redeeming feature seemed to be the

| mutually aspecting close Raja Yoga between the royal planets, the Su & the

| Mo.

|

| However the MTH of the Su is also exactly afflicted and so too the H of

its

| placement. For all these reasons, the Su-Mo yoga in the SA, does not hold

| much promise, especially when one does not turn to the Remedial Measures.

He

| was running the Ju-Me sub-period [w.e.f. Feb '06 to May '08] and in view

of

| afflictions to Me, and also inherently for the Scorpio Asdt, the income

| showed wild fluctuations so characteristic of Me.

|

| The exact afflictions to the professional H by Ma & to the IH by Ra & Ke,

| made the inherent Mercurial fluctuations even wilder. Sometimes the

| individual would be drawing a salary of $10,000/- a month and sometimes

the

| amount would fall to a disgraceful lower limit of $ 2,500/-. When the Prof

| suggested to the individual that he would be happier in his homeland; he

| refused to entertain this possibility, as a highly materialistic Ra,

| impacting on the VIIH of overseas and the MMP Ve in the IVH had given him

| the strong urge of not wanting to budge from the lap of luxury!

|

| He asked the Prof, after his failures in business, what would be the

| appropriate professional course of action for him? In view of the

individual

| having come on the path of the Remedial Measures, Prof Choudhry advised

him

| to shift from engineering and make a foray into the IT business world.

|

| 8. 'Observations' by Col. B.K. Kailash:

|

| In the post lunch session, when Prof Choudhry threw open the session for

SA

| astrologers to express themselves freely on relevant themes, Col. B.K.

| Kailash came forward to share some important observations & reminiscences.

I

| actually missed the first few minutes of this session; but what he

stressed

| were the following points.

|

| As his wife had afflictions in her chart and those had manifested in the

| sphere of health, he was obliged to look out for various systems of

healing

| and remedies - all to alleviate her distress and improve her lot. In this

| process, he gave us to understand that he learnt Pranic healing and

| developed as a Pranic healer and likewise when he entered into the sphere

of

| SA astrology, he could forewarn his wife and soon even others as well, as

to

| which periods in the offing were good and which bad. He was very grateful

to

| the Systems Approach & to Prof Choudhry, its founder; for he could soon

| learn the subtleties of the SA to such an extent that he even prepared

| Kavachs like how conscientious astrologers do and offered them to various

| people in distress, doing this whole humanitarian work entirely in a

spirit

| of service, but never for any pecuniary gains. In a moving concluding

| sentence, Col Kailash paid a heartfelt tribute to the Prof: " There are

many

| Masters and Prof Choudhry is one of them. "

|

| 9. Sutra on the Influence of the Dispositor [Case 16]:

|

| Sri Vikaas V Sharma asked Prof Choudhry for two clarifications. He drew a

| schematic chart to illustrate the context and asked whether his

conjectured

| SA Sutras are valid?

|

| Prof Choudhry replied affirmatively to both his Qs.

|

| Q1: Tr planets impact, depending on their Tr strength?

|

| Q2: The H impacts on a planet, depending on how close the planet is to the

| MEP of the H, both benefic as well as malefic?

|

| 10. Blessings through the SA Remedial Measures [Case 17]:

|

| This individual [born 1985, Capricorn Asdt] also has close affliction to

his

| Lord of the 2H and thus also weak educational & professional Lords. The

MMP

| is badly placed in the XIIH and almost exactly afflicts the XIIH & the

VIH.

| The only massive blessing is through the strong exalted VII Lord, the Mo,

| placed in the VH of professional studies and emotional intelligence. Both

| the FMs, the Su & Ju are weak,, while Ra & Ke are strong. Thus in some

| respects this chart is similar to Case 14, which was also a Capricorn

Asdt.

|

| However on account of the individual wearing the multiple special power

| Kavachs and also some gemstones and performing the Remedial Measures

| regularly for 3 yrs, he secured divine grace - even in the midst of a

| currently prevailing nodal affliction to his II & VIII Hs. He secured

| admission in 4 or 5 UK universities and one university even offered him,

the

| 'impossible privilege' of a seat in the final year of the course. Prof

| Choudhry cited this as a Case in which continuous Remedial Measures have

| opened the doors of grace & opportunities. In fact he secured the seat

with

| substantial fellowship, so that he may survive on his own during the

tenure

| of his higher studies.

|

| 11. An Exceptionally Auspicious SA Muhurta:

|

| When one of the astrologers asked the Q, whether the Kavach must be

engraved

| only during an auspicious muhurta, Prof Choudhry said 'yes' and reiterated

| the importance of auspicious SA muhurtas and their rarity as well. He gave

a

| muhurta which was exceptionally auspicious and falling on the 19th March,

| '08[All FBs are strong].

|

| 12. 'Calcutta' in the life of Prof Choudhry:

|

| As the Conf was drawing to a close there were miscellaneous insights &

| reminiscences and answers to some Qs by Prof Choudhry. He mentioned the

| persistence of the city 'Calcutta' in his life! As an official of various

| govt depts., destiny had taken him to Calcutta four times. It was here in

| Calcutta, on the 1st Jan 1985 that destiny launched him on his

Astrological

| Mission. He learnt astrology for the first time in a probing & enquiring

way

| in Calcutta. This is where he met Ravi Sastri and made one of his

important

| predictions about Ravi Sastri's forthcoming captaincy of the Indian team-

| 'before the year ends'! Miraculously, Ravi Sastri was appointed captain of

| the Indian team on 31st Dec!

|

| [if I may be permitted to say in an aside: In the Prof's chart, the IV

Lord

| Me has a close beneficial conj with the V Lord Ve. This is a Raja Yoga

even

| in the SA and since Ve impacts closely on the III & IX Hs of journeys, it

is

| reasonable that Ve should decide the nature of these journeys. Ve is also

| the D-10 Asdt Lord. Ve rules the SE direction and since Calcutta is SE of

| Delhi, it had to figure prominently in Prof's life, in view of the impact

of

| Ve]. For his part the Prof made it clear that he has never been so much

| interested in his own chart & his own life that at no time did he feel

the

| need to astrologically probe into these areas.

|

| Ms Sunita Singhal asked one Q to the Prof concerning the significations of

| the Nakshatras in the SA. Answering this Q, Prof Choudhry remarked that as

| the classical literature on the significations of the Nakshatras is so

| confusing, the SA underwent its development, without having to depend on

the

| significations of the Nakshatras. This would mean that in anlysing any

| problem, the SA sheds enough light on the problem, by using the

| significations of the Zodiacal Signs, so that Nakshatra significations

have

| no place in the SA.

|

| One of the last Qs pertained to the 'exact moment of birth' within the SA

| framework? While in Vedic Astrology, this exact moment of birth is taken

to

| correspond to 'Sirasodayam', or the emergence of the head of the new-born

| out of the mother's body; Prof Choudhry made it clear that in the SA, it

is

| to be reckoned as that moment when the new-born, lets out its first cry,

| since this is also the moment, the baby starts breathing for the first

time

| on its own.

|

| 13. Conf Certificates Awarded by Prof. V.K. Choudhry:

|

| There was a brief interview of Prof Choudhry by some media people. At that

| time, as desired by the Prof, Dr. Miller & myself also spoke a few words.

| Thereafter every participant of this SA Intl Conf - II had the privilege

of

| receiving the Certificate of participation, directly from the hands of

Prof

| V.K. Choudhry, the founding father of the Systems Approach to Vedic

| Astrology.

|

| With the vote of thanks, which was given by me, the IIPA Intl Conf of SA

| astrologers - II, came to its natural conclusion. The salient features of

| this happy Conf were already summarized by me in Part - 1 of the

| Proceedings.

|

| 14. Conclusion of Part - 3 of the Proceedings:

|

| I sincerely thank Prof Choudhry for his patience & time and for the

| responsibility he has given me in summarizing the Conf Proceedings. He has

| clarified a number of my Qs on the Conf sessions even as lately as this

| morning. I am very thankful to all the SA astrologers who answered my Qs

at

| the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous learning experience. I am most

| beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, for the silent and selfless service he

| rendered to us all, thereby making the Conf a very pleasant and memorable

| event. Thanks are also due to Sri Kannanji for his excellent assistance in

| the preparation of the PPP, as well as in getting Parts 2 & 3 of the

| Proceedings ready.

|

| I wish to also submit that any omissions, distortions & errors in my

summary

| are due to my own inadvertence and I therefore request all members of the

SA

| community to condone these possible failings.

|

| Best regards,

|

| Sankara Bhagavadpada.

|

June 5, 2007

It would be my pleasure Mr. Bhagavadpada. You may send me the details of

that boy if you feel its correct (may be offline).

Best regards

Aman

On Behalf

Of SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:22 AM

Missing medical student-thanks

Dear Sri Sainiji,

Thanks for the kind words.Some ten days ago, my gardner's son had eloped

with a girl and got married.The gardner asked me to tell him, when he will

come back? I used SA to predict the day of his return and possibly the date

of receiving news and Lo! it was correct.All credit goes to the illustrious

Jyotishacharya Prof.V.K.Choudhry, who has given the wealth of his learning

to all of us.If you have the time to take a look at this case, I can get the

chart ready for you?

Best Regards

S.Bhagavadpada

-

Aman Deep Saini

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:05 AM

RE: PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings (The Case of the

Missing Medical Student [Case 12])

Congratulations to you sir. Its all because of you that we have learnt

astrology. We learnt from this case in the conference from you which was a

good experience.

Regards

Aman

On Behalf

Of siha

Monday, June 04, 2007 11:49 AM

Re: PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings (The Case of the

Missing Medical Student [Case 12])

Hello dear Aman,

Thanks for the update and congratulations for your predictions.

Best wishes.

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-

" Aman Deep Saini " <amandsaini

Monday, June 04, 2007 11:22 AM

RE: PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings (The Case

of

the Missing Medical Student [Case 12])

| Dear list members,

|

| This mail is in continuation to the case studies discussed during IInd

IIPA

| SA Conference in February 2007. I presented a case of a medical student

who

| was missing and her parents were worried to know for her whereabouts.

|

| Based on SA analysis it was predicted that the girl shall return after 3

to

| 4 months and her disappearance is willful.

|

| The girl has met her parents on May 31st 2007. She left home and got

| married. At present she is on family way and does not want to return

back

to

| her parents.

|

| Last year this girl left her home and got married as per her wish

without

| telling anyone. Since then she never contacted back her parents. Somehow

| parents came to know about the details of boy with whom she got married.

Boy

| was also missing from his home. Police was searching both of them since

| months. On advertising in all the News Papers the land lord of this

couple

| identified them and forced them to come back. They were living in

Jaipur.

| Girl's parents filed a case in Delhi court against boy however on girl's

| statement in her husband's favor, nothing could be done against him. The

| girl also took away Rs. 5 Lacs from home when she left. It seems that

they

| are still surviving on that money.

|

| Point to note here is that as Prof. Choudhary said that affliction from

| transit stationary nodes to natal 4th lord Venus and 10th lord Mars

shall

| delay the return. Till May 30th this affliction was within 1 degree orb.

On

| May 31st only the nodes moved away by 1 degree.

|

| At present transit 8th lord Saturn is exactly afflicting the 1st, 3rd,

7th

| and 10th house MEP in girl's chart in addition to Natal Moon (Ascendant

| Lord). The problems have not yet gone. Multiple afflictions are still

| present in the chart and the coming time will teach a lot of lessons to

this

| girl the hard way.

|

| May God give strength to the parents to bear this humiliation and

emotional

| loss. So far they have spent Rs. 12 Lacs in searching this girl in

addition

| to the money she took away with her. When this girl was with them and

they

| approached me to know why she doesn't have interest in studies, they

were

| suggested for the girl to perform SA charities and wear appropriate gems

and

| Kavach. They never followed the advice.

|

| Thanks

|

| Aman Deep Saini

|

| _____

|

| SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

| SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA

| Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:23 PM

| ; SAMVA ;

| siha

| PART-3 of the Conf Proceedings

|

| Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,

|

| Namasthe.PART-3 of the IIPA Intl Conf -II, Proceedings follows and is

also

| attached. For those who could not attend the Conf, this summary may give

an

| idea of the discussions that went on in the Conf, and the light thrown

by

| the Professor on various charts with currently prevailing-problems.

|

| In 'cutting and pasting', I'm afraid, the relative positioning of the

Rasi

| chart, the Navamsa chart and the Vimshottari-Dasa 'clock-time' has

suffered

| an undesirable shuffling.At least in the Attachment, I hope the original

| order has been preserved.

|

| Best Regards

|

| Sankara Bhagavadpada

|

| International Institute of Predictive Astrology [iIPA], Fairfield, USA.

|

| IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers

|

| Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.

|

| Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.

|

| PROCEEDINGS-PART 3

|

| Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,

|

| Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by the respected

|

| ; in this last & concluding Part-3, I shall summarize the

| events of the second day. In Part-2, which I had already sent to the

SATVA

&

| the SAMVA groups; I had covered a greater portion of the first day's

| Proceedings. It may be recalled that in Part-1, I had covered Prof. V.

K.

| Choudhry's inaugural address as well as the salient features of the

Conf.

|

| 1. Sri. Ramana Maharshi's Moksha seen through the eyes of the Systems

| Approach:

|

| This was the first session on the morning of the 2nd day. As Prof

Choudhry

| has been gracious enough to make available the PPP of my talk on one of

his

| websites: <http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/>

www.jyotishremedies121.com,

| for the benefit of all; I am being spared the labour of summarizing my

own

| talk. Put very briefly, I spoke on just the TSE pertaining to the

Maharshi's

| Moksha, using the SA in the spheres of Dharma and Moksha. I quoted all

the

| pertinent SA sutras as well as presented all necessary foundational

| principles- in the light of which alone, this Moksha TSE becomes

| intelligible in the SA framework.

|

| 2. A Case of 'delayed marriage' [Case-10], Presented by Cmdr. Ashutosh

| Pandey:

|

| We were informed that this lady was 31 yrs old and that though efforts

were

| afoot to identify a suitable husband for her in the course of the last 6

| yrs, no alliance was proving to be favourable. [Just to make 'the

| phenomenon of delay in marriage' intelligible to some SA astrologers,

who

| may not be so conversant with the Hindu ethos, w.r.t. marriages; at this

| point, I am obliged to grant myself the liberty of saying in an aside:

The

| anxiety, such a long drawn out 'delay in marriage' causes to the parents

of

| a young lady in a Hindu society, can be appreciated only when we realize

the

| paramount importance that has always been attached to the

| 'social-structure of marriage' in a traditional Hindu society. For both

the

| man as well as the woman, marriage was designed to give stability,

economic

| & emotional security and finally, dependability and a certain permanence

in

| relationship. It was upon the bed-rock of such an enduring marriage that

the

| pillars of all other achievements in life were erected in that

traditional

| Hindu society.]

|

| , looking at the chart, pointed out that the MMP, Sa

afflicted

| exactly, the IH, VIIH, IIIH and the XH, while the Asdt Lord Mo was also

| exactly afflicted by the VIH Lord, Ju. The XH was afflicted exactly and

the

| XH Lord was deb in the IH, which was exactly afflicted by the MMP. Ve,

the

| significator of marriage was also badly placed in the XIIH, and exactly

| combust and the Su, the prime determinant of marriage was also weak by

| placement in the XIIH. Prof's verdict was unequivocal: " Without

Remedies,

no

| chance of getting married at all. "

|

| 3. A Case of Penalization by the Police [Case 11]:

|

| In the pre-lunch session, another Case of an armed security person was

| discussed. This case was brought up by Sri R. Hasija. In discharging his

| responsibility as an armed security personnel, this person was obliged

to

| fire on a crowd and in the process, five people died. Accordingly he was

| charged for murder and continued to be in police custody, in spite of

the

| fact that post-mortem examinations had conclusively proved that the

death

of

| the victims was not due to the bullets fired by him. Apparently he was

| suffering a karmic nemesis and the Q that was put to Prof Choudhry was,

when

| would he be set free?

|

| The weakness of the VI Lord Me, on account of the exact affliction from

Ke,

| the Prof held to be an imp factor in making him vulnerable to losses in

| litigations. The close impact of the VI Lord Me on the Asdt, again made

him

| vulnerable to court cases. The currently occurring Tr stationary

condition

| of the nodes, exactly over the natal nodes was the Tr event responsible

for

| immediately triggering the police case. As the event happened in the

| sub-period of Sa, which is badly placed in the VIH, the time of the

| sub-period was also favourable for VIH events like litigations, police

| actions etc.. In the Ma-Me sub-period, which follows [ w.e.f. 19-8-'07

till

| 16-8-'08], as the time becomes even more unfavourable for release, Prof

| Choudhry concluded his remarks by saying that if someone else undertakes

to

| do the remedies for him, that would bring in grace for his release.

|

| 4. The Case of the Missing Medical Student [Case 12], Presented by Sri.

Aman

| Deep Saini:

|

| Sri Sainiji, mentioned that the parents of this girl had originally

| approached him only because her educational performance had been poor.

| Though remedies were prescribed, they were never performed and now the

| parents apparently came back to Sainiji to report the very disturbing

news

| of her disappearance from home. Apparently the girl has abandoned her

| studies and has been missing for sometime. The anguished family had

asked

| Sainiji two Qs, which he placed before the Prof. Q1: When will she come

| back? Q2: Could we know something about her whereabouts?

|

| Note: Here it may not be out of place to recapitulate what the SA has to

say

| w.r.t. 'missing persons.' In the recent work: Predictive Techniques, the

| Prof & Sri Rajesh Chaudhary have dealt with this astrological problem on

Pg

| 83, under the title 'Timing Return of Missing Persons'. Therein, the SA

| Sutras governing the phenomenon of missing persons is gathered together

in

| one place and the distinction is made between willful disappearance as

| against involuntary disappearance. 12 Case Studies follow to illustrate

the

| Sutras.

|

| Commenting on willful disappearance in the above work, we are told that

this

| occurs because of a possible emotional entanglement, or on account of

| excessive fear, or even on account of a difference of opinion or a

quarrel.

| Involuntary disappearance on the other hand comes to pass either because

of

| a sudden illness on the way or due to abduction or even due a failure of

the

| means to communicate.

|

| In the present case, Prof Choudhry said, the main cause of the

| disappearance is to be seen in the placement of the X Lord in the VIH.

Thus

| this is a case of willful disappearance. The SA holds that the impact of

the

| nodes is more pertinent in such cases. The currently occurring

affliction

| created by Tr stationary nodes, on the natal IV Lord Ve and the natal X

Lord

| Ma was going to delay the return of the individual by 3 to 4 months and

that

| in this intervening time, problems will be intense. The Prof was

alluding

to

| also Tr Ju & Tr Sa afflicting the Asdt at the present time and thereby

| intensifying the existing problem. Making these clarifying and assuring

| remarks, the Prof said, " there is however no risk to her life and

| longevity. "

|

| 5. Light on the Chart of a Spiritual Leader by the Prof [Case

|

| 13]:

|

| The Yogi in Q was born in 1929 in North India and passed away a couple

of

| years ago. The Prof brought in this chart to throw light on spiritual as

| well as medical astrology. The Yogi, who was a spiritual leader was a

family

| man, but this did not deter him from rendering excellent humanitarian

| services for the world at large.

|

| When I asked the Prof for further clarifications, he added that the Yogi

had

| very high spiritual aspirations and a spiritual will to do good things

[as

| seen from the strong Su & Ju ruling over the houses of overseas &

| aspirations]. He had provided for massive educational patronage through

a

| network of schools, to further the cause of educating girl children of

his

| community. The entire endowment was made to a famous temple on an annual

| basis, for the temple undertook to do the said social & humanitarian

work.

|

| The SA holds that any chart in which the Su & Ju are strong, is

necessarily

| a spiritual chart. The Aquarius Asdt, ruled by Sa, the planet of

service,

is

| also a 'good vehicle' for launching such spiritual services. It should

| however be noted that he did not renounce the world- and this is in

keeping

| with his spiritual planets ruling the Hs of will & aspiration [Kama Hs].

|

| The Prof was called upon to give astrological guidance to the Yogi, who

at

| that time was beset with health problems. This can be seen from the deb

of

| Sa, the Asdt Lord, in both the D-9 as well as the D-6 charts. In

addition

| the exact nodal affliction to the Mo, the VI Lord, giving general

health,

| and the placement of the dispositor of the Mo in the most malefic

| VIIIH-worsened the whole situation w.r.t. health. It was the weakness of

Ve,

| on which many of his health problems were centered. This weak Ve and the

| affliction to its dispositor had given him some problems with his

kidneys

as

| also diabetes.

|

| This was a little shocking when I learnt about it, since the Su, the

| significator of digestion; Ju, the significator of the liver & pancreas;

and

| the sign Leo, the significator of digestion - all of them are strong in

the

| natal chart, quite contrary to the cases of many diabetics, who have

more

| than one of these 'variables of diabetes', in a weak or afflicted

condition.

| The Prof recommended a change of diet for the Yogi and also gave him a

| Kavach, after which, his health took a turn for the better.

|

| In this context the Prof mentioned in passing that there were two other

| Pontiffs from South India, who were also wearing his Kavachs. We were

told

| that during an astrology conf in Ghaziabad, where Prof Choudhry had an

| occasion to share the dais with one of the Jagadgurus of the

'Sankaracharya

| Order', had asked for the Prof's visiting card, as he was contemplating

| inviting the Prof for another astrological conf, which he was probably

| hoping to organize. In this way we learnt of many anecdotal references

to

| the world of astrologers and spiritual leaders.

|

| 6. The Professional Setback of an Industrialist [Case 14]:

|

| This was another illustrative example [born 1940, Capricorn Asdt]

brought

| forward by Prof Choudhry, just to drive home how insensitive &

unconscious

| people often are w.r.t. their own sufferings. The individual concerned

had

| been under the onslaught of a prolonged professional setback since the

last

| 6 yrs and only now, through the kind offices of one of the Prof's

disciples

| in Chennai, he had the good fortune of coming to the Prof for a much

needed

| consultation.

|

| The individual in Q certainly had the grace of God, as testified by his

| strong IXH Lord Me, well placed in the XIH of aspirations & income. This

was

| the reason he could meet the Prof in the first place. In addition he had

two

| unafflicted benefic planets, a deb Ve and Ma, placed in the IXH of

fortune.

| As against these blessings, his chart had horrendous afflictions to the

IVH

| & the XH, the MTHs of the planets Ve & Ma placed in the IXH. The XH was

| exactly afflicted by the MMP, the Su, which is deb in that H; while Sa,

| ruling the IIH of status & accumulated wealth, is not only deb but under

an

| exact afflicting conj from the loss giving planet Ju. To worsen matters,

Sa,

| which is also the planet for professional status also suffers a close

| affliction from the MMP, the Su. Thus horrendous afflictions to home

life

as

| well as professional life is seen in the chart. There is also a close

nodal

| affliction from Ra to the IH, the IIIH of business and the VH of

speculative

| ventures. Ke closely afflicts the VIIH of long standing business

| partnerships, the IXH, as well as the XIH of income & gains.

|

| Prof Choudhry looking at this chart with multiple afflictions, asked him

to

| commence the daily propitiatory charities and continue them

uninterruptedly

| for 3 months, so that he will get some relief. When the individual heard

the

| words '3 months', he broke down, was in tears and told the Prof that he

| would rather die - so critical was his crisis.

|

| He was initially only a trader and exporter in garments, but Ra, closely

| impacting on the I & V Hs gave him the ambitious urge to move from being

| merely a trader into being a more respectable manufacturer! While Ra

places

| this temptation on his path and a strong Me as the Lord of fortune in

the

| XIH, gave him the impetus to aspire for this rise; the deb and

profoundly

| afflicted status Lord Sa and the XH, were working in another direction -

| namely to deny him this 'aspired for rise'; unless he came on the path

of

| the Remedial Measures. These complex forces of destiny, made him take a

loan

| of 2 crores from a Bank and today he remains as a debtor with a

liability

of

| 6 crores. This was his predicament.

|

| Prof Choudhry pointed out that in the currently running Su-Ve

sub-period,

| the affliction to the MTH of Ve, from the MMP, was fated to come to the

| fore. Additionally even the MMP, which would have given easy gains were

it

| strong; was not only weak but also suffered a close affliction from the

FM

| Ju. Throughout the Su major period, which began w.e.f. Aug '01, the

| individual had been under tremendous professional duress and the

severity

of

| the afflictions was such that he could come to the Prof only during the

last

| sub-period of the Su major period. It was remarked by the Prof

|

| that the currently prevailing Tr Ju's affliction to Tr Sa, will keep the

| condition aggravated for a few more months. He was then to go on to

another

| Capricorn Asdt chart, where the afflictions were also grievous, but as

the

| individual had come on the path of the Remedial Measures, since the last

3

| yrs, he became fortunate in securing the grace through the propitiatory

| charities, the Kavach and also some gemstones[see Sec.10, Case 17].

|

| 7. Another Case of Professional Instability[Case 15]:

|

| An individual [born 1965, Scorpio Asdt] far away from his homeland

[india]

| used to on & off suffer professional downswings and on such occasions

the

| Prof used to receive distress telephone calls and he then had to not

only

| prescribe the astrological Remedial Measures, but also lift up the

spirits

| of the individual and set him going again on the path of inspired action

in

| spite of all odds. Though the Prof discharged these humanitarian

| responsibilities with equanimity, even for him there was a limit beyond

| which, it became difficult to take on the limitless responsibility of a

| 'consoling father-figure & spiritual Master'.

|

| The individual during such distress calls used to repeatedly entertain

the

| options of ending his own life or death. His professional failures were

so

| recurrent and so difficult to overcome. In his chart, it was pointed out

| that the FM Ma afflicted the IH, the XH of profession, the IVH of

| contentment as well as the VH of speculative ventures & love in

expression.

| The Scorpio Asdt was also under the exact nodal affliction from the

exalted

| nodes. Me the lord of income was deb in the natal chart, the MTH of its

| placement was exactly afflicted by Ke while its own MTH came under the

exact

| affliction from Ra. Worst still, such a deb Me also suffered an exact

| affliction from natal Ke. The Mo, the Lord of fortune was well placed in

the

| XIH, although very weak and the only redeeming feature seemed to be the

| mutually aspecting close Raja Yoga between the royal planets, the Su &

the

| Mo.

|

| However the MTH of the Su is also exactly afflicted and so too the H of

its

| placement. For all these reasons, the Su-Mo yoga in the SA, does not

hold

| much promise, especially when one does not turn to the Remedial

Measures.

He

| was running the Ju-Me sub-period [w.e.f. Feb '06 to May '08] and in view

of

| afflictions to Me, and also inherently for the Scorpio Asdt, the income

| showed wild fluctuations so characteristic of Me.

|

| The exact afflictions to the professional H by Ma & to the IH by Ra &

Ke,

| made the inherent Mercurial fluctuations even wilder. Sometimes the

| individual would be drawing a salary of $10,000/- a month and sometimes

the

| amount would fall to a disgraceful lower limit of $ 2,500/-. When the

Prof

| suggested to the individual that he would be happier in his homeland; he

| refused to entertain this possibility, as a highly materialistic Ra,

| impacting on the VIIH of overseas and the MMP Ve in the IVH had given

him

| the strong urge of not wanting to budge from the lap of luxury!

|

| He asked the Prof, after his failures in business, what would be the

| appropriate professional course of action for him? In view of the

individual

| having come on the path of the Remedial Measures, Prof Choudhry advised

him

| to shift from engineering and make a foray into the IT business world.

|

| 8. 'Observations' by Col. B.K. Kailash:

|

| In the post lunch session, when Prof Choudhry threw open the session for

SA

| astrologers to express themselves freely on relevant themes, Col. B.K.

| Kailash came forward to share some important observations &

reminiscences.

I

| actually missed the first few minutes of this session; but what he

stressed

| were the following points.

|

| As his wife had afflictions in her chart and those had manifested in the

| sphere of health, he was obliged to look out for various systems of

healing

| and remedies - all to alleviate her distress and improve her lot. In

this

| process, he gave us to understand that he learnt Pranic healing and

| developed as a Pranic healer and likewise when he entered into the

sphere

of

| SA astrology, he could forewarn his wife and soon even others as well,

as

to

| which periods in the offing were good and which bad. He was very

grateful

to

| the Systems Approach & to Prof Choudhry, its founder; for he could soon

| learn the subtleties of the SA to such an extent that he even prepared

| Kavachs like how conscientious astrologers do and offered them to

various

| people in distress, doing this whole humanitarian work entirely in a

spirit

| of service, but never for any pecuniary gains. In a moving concluding

| sentence, Col Kailash paid a heartfelt tribute to the Prof: " There are

many

| Masters and Prof Choudhry is one of them. "

|

| 9. Sutra on the Influence of the Dispositor [Case 16]:

|

| Sri Vikaas V Sharma asked Prof Choudhry for two clarifications. He drew

a

| schematic chart to illustrate the context and asked whether his

conjectured

| SA Sutras are valid?

|

| Prof Choudhry replied affirmatively to both his Qs.

|

| Q1: Tr planets impact, depending on their Tr strength?

|

| Q2: The H impacts on a planet, depending on how close the planet is to

the

| MEP of the H, both benefic as well as malefic?

|

| 10. Blessings through the SA Remedial Measures [Case 17]:

|

| This individual [born 1985, Capricorn Asdt] also has close affliction to

his

| Lord of the 2H and thus also weak educational & professional Lords. The

MMP

| is badly placed in the XIIH and almost exactly afflicts the XIIH & the

VIH.

| The only massive blessing is through the strong exalted VII Lord, the

Mo,

| placed in the VH of professional studies and emotional intelligence.

Both

| the FMs, the Su & Ju are weak,, while Ra & Ke are strong. Thus in some

| respects this chart is similar to Case 14, which was also a Capricorn

Asdt.

|

| However on account of the individual wearing the multiple special power

| Kavachs and also some gemstones and performing the Remedial Measures

| regularly for 3 yrs, he secured divine grace - even in the midst of a

| currently prevailing nodal affliction to his II & VIII Hs. He secured

| admission in 4 or 5 UK universities and one university even offered him,

the

| 'impossible privilege' of a seat in the final year of the course. Prof

| Choudhry cited this as a Case in which continuous Remedial Measures have

| opened the doors of grace & opportunities. In fact he secured the seat

with

| substantial fellowship, so that he may survive on his own during the

tenure

| of his higher studies.

|

| 11. An Exceptionally Auspicious SA Muhurta:

|

| When one of the astrologers asked the Q, whether the Kavach must be

engraved

| only during an auspicious muhurta, Prof Choudhry said 'yes' and

reiterated

| the importance of auspicious SA muhurtas and their rarity as well. He

gave

a

| muhurta which was exceptionally auspicious and falling on the 19th

March,

| '08[All FBs are strong].

|

| 12. 'Calcutta' in the life of Prof Choudhry:

|

| As the Conf was drawing to a close there were miscellaneous insights &

| reminiscences and answers to some Qs by Prof Choudhry. He mentioned the

| persistence of the city 'Calcutta' in his life! As an official of

various

| govt depts., destiny had taken him to Calcutta four times. It was here

in

| Calcutta, on the 1st Jan 1985 that destiny launched him on his

Astrological

| Mission. He learnt astrology for the first time in a probing & enquiring

way

| in Calcutta. This is where he met Ravi Sastri and made one of his

important

| predictions about Ravi Sastri's forthcoming captaincy of the Indian

team-

| 'before the year ends'! Miraculously, Ravi Sastri was appointed captain

of

| the Indian team on 31st Dec!

|

| [if I may be permitted to say in an aside: In the Prof's chart, the IV

Lord

| Me has a close beneficial conj with the V Lord Ve. This is a Raja Yoga

even

| in the SA and since Ve impacts closely on the III & IX Hs of journeys,

it

is

| reasonable that Ve should decide the nature of these journeys. Ve is

also

| the D-10 Asdt Lord. Ve rules the SE direction and since Calcutta is SE

of

| Delhi, it had to figure prominently in Prof's life, in view of the

impact

of

| Ve]. For his part the Prof made it clear that he has never been so much

| interested in his own chart & his own life that at no time did he feel

the

| need to astrologically probe into these areas.

|

| Ms Sunita Singhal asked one Q to the Prof concerning the significations

of

| the Nakshatras in the SA. Answering this Q, Prof Choudhry remarked that

as

| the classical literature on the significations of the Nakshatras is so

| confusing, the SA underwent its development, without having to depend on

the

| significations of the Nakshatras. This would mean that in anlysing any

| problem, the SA sheds enough light on the problem, by using the

| significations of the Zodiacal Signs, so that Nakshatra significations

have

| no place in the SA.

|

| One of the last Qs pertained to the 'exact moment of birth' within the

SA

| framework? While in Vedic Astrology, this exact moment of birth is taken

to

| correspond to 'Sirasodayam', or the emergence of the head of the

new-born

| out of the mother's body; Prof Choudhry made it clear that in the SA, it

is

| to be reckoned as that moment when the new-born, lets out its first cry,

| since this is also the moment, the baby starts breathing for the first

time

| on its own.

|

| 13. Conf Certificates Awarded by Prof. V.K. Choudhry:

|

| There was a brief interview of Prof Choudhry by some media people. At

that

| time, as desired by the Prof, Dr. Miller & myself also spoke a few

words.

| Thereafter every participant of this SA Intl Conf - II had the privilege

of

| receiving the Certificate of participation, directly from the hands of

Prof

| V.K. Choudhry, the founding father of the Systems Approach to Vedic

| Astrology.

|

| With the vote of thanks, which was given by me, the IIPA Intl Conf of SA

| astrologers - II, came to its natural conclusion. The salient features

of

| this happy Conf were already summarized by me in Part - 1 of the

| Proceedings.

|

| 14. Conclusion of Part - 3 of the Proceedings:

|

| I sincerely thank Prof Choudhry for his patience & time and for the

| responsibility he has given me in summarizing the Conf Proceedings. He

has

| clarified a number of my Qs on the Conf sessions even as lately as this

| morning. I am very thankful to all the SA astrologers who answered my Qs

at

| the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous learning experience. I am most

| beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, for the silent and selfless service he

| rendered to us all, thereby making the Conf a very pleasant and

memorable

| event. Thanks are also due to Sri Kannanji for his excellent assistance

in

| the preparation of the PPP, as well as in getting Parts 2 & 3 of the

| Proceedings ready.

|

| I wish to also submit that any omissions, distortions & errors in my

summary

| are due to my own inadvertence and I therefore request all members of

the

SA

| community to condone these possible failings.

|

| Best regards,

|

| Sankara Bhagavadpada.

|

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