[satva101]-PARTt-2-for AMITji

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Amitji,

 

I am now sending part-2, again, as desired by you- as an attachment and also as a doc.Do let me know, if the whole thing comes to you in proper shape.

Best Regards

S.Bhagavadpada

 

International Institute of Predictive Astrology[iIPA], Fairfield, USA.

IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers

Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.

 

Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.

 

PROCEEDINGS-PART 2

 

 

Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,

 

Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by respected

, I shall now move on to Part-2 of the Conf Proceedings, which covers fully the events of the first day. In Part-3, which I’ll get ready in a day or two, the second day’s Proceedings will be covered.

 

1. Dr. Jonathan Miller’s Presentation[Case 3]:

 

In the forenoon session of the first day, after ’s address drew to a close, Dr. Jonathan Miller was called upon to make a presentation of his work. For his part, Dr. Miller, who along with his wife Dr. Sloan Jonathan has been involved in health-care, medical & healing work in the US as well as in Sikkim, was using medical SA astrology in his essentially medical work, so as to gain greater clarity into the timing of diseases and the timing of recovery, and the healing through the Remedial Measures as well. Firstly, he spoke of certain kinds of Remedial Measures, like color therapy, as a kind of ‘resonance phenomena’[by analogy with ‘resonance-as understood in Physics’, between two stringed musical instruments, whenever they are placed side by side].

 

Thus, on account of this ‘resonance-phenomena’ whenever, for example, a patient underwent irradiation by coloured light of specific frequencies, the patient’s whole body-mind was made to ‘vibrate in resonance’ at the energy of that particular FB planet[whose colour was being used as a Remedial Measure for healing] and this facilitated healing. Although he was invoking the research work of a Swiss mathematician, who had made correlations between the energies of the orbiting planets on the one hand and various colours of the spectrum, on the other; very significantly, Dr. Miller had no hesitation in making it known to the delegates that he had a preference for the findings of the Sages, rather than for those of modern ‘scientific research’.

 

In the second half of his presentation, he brought forth the case of one of his patients[Case-3, a Libra Asdt] who had sustained multiple fractures in an accident[a TSE], which had occurred on June 30th, ’06. Though the misfortune of an accident had befallen the patient, he was well off and had the luxury of a villa to add to the happiness in times of trouble. The Ju-Ju sub-period was running and in the MTH of Ju, the sub-period Lord, there was ‘resident’ an affliction from the MMP, Me to Sa, the significator of bones, structures, joints, etc. Crucially, the IIIH signifies the shoulders, collar-bone, especially, on the right side.

 

Unable to identify the cause of the accident in the Tr chart of Jun 30th ’06, Dr. Miller asked the Prof to throw light on the same. remarked that, there was an SA sutra here at work-which can often be easily missed, on account of its subtlety. He put the SA Sutra in this form: “When a FB planet becomes the dispositor of an affliction, the results of affliction surface during the sub period and transit influence of that FB planet.” All SA astrologers probably recognized that as Ke from the VIH of accidents, closely aspects the Asdt Lord in the natal chart, in the dreaded sign of Scorpio; and as natal Sa was under close affliction from the MMP in the IIIH, there was already, ‘sufficient ground’ for possible accidents of a grievous kind, in the natal chart itself.

 

However, in reply to Dr. Miller’s question, pertaining to the decipherment of the TSE of this accident, the Prof implied that on account of the above subtle sutra governing the accident, the Tr chart of the accident, ‘will not identify’, ‘the usual Tr afflictions from FMs’, as the cause of the accident. Instead now, the SA was teaching us that an ‘ostensibly beneficial FB’ was going to trigger the accident! This was by far the most unexpected lesson and puts SA astrologers on guard – asking them to be watchful over even FBs- whenever these ‘ostensibly beneficial FBs’ house afflictions in their MTHs and when ever their sub-periods are running. Dr. Miller must be thanked for having brought up this enigmatic TSE, for Prof’s comments. This new SA Sutra, may in fact be considered to be one of the ‘gems’ that have highlighted in the course of the Conf.

 

The Prof also clarified, in reply to a question that natal Ma’s eighth aspect falling exactly on the natal Asdt Lord Ve in the Sign Scorpio was certainly not a factor at all, in creating this massive injury-since in the SA, a FB Ma does not create any malefic events like injuries and accidents.

 

Notice the placement of Sa & the MMP Me in the natal chart, as well as the Tr impact of the sub-period Lord Ju on the Asdt. The Tr chart on the day of the accident makes sense, only because of the new SA sutra. As Sa rules bones, joints & structures, and the natal affliction to Sa, occurs in the IIIH, the Tr impact of Ju on the Asdt, ‘delivered the affliction’ on to the IH of the body. Significantly, this Tr Ju, which functions like a FM Lord, also influences the 3rd sign Gemini, as well as the MTH of Sa. It must be noted that this Tr Ju, the dispositor of the affliction in its MTH, was on the day of the accident in R-motion and approaching its perfect stationarity. When was later asked, about the contributory role played by two seemingly important factors-namely the Tr Asdt Lord Ve in the VIIIH of accidents, just 2 degs close to the MEP and the stationarity of the ‘ostensibly beneficial FB Ju’, as it hovered over the MEP of the Asdt, before ‘delivering the affliction in its MTH, on to the Asdt’; the Prof mentioned that both these contributory factors were also significant in triggering the malefic TSE of the accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. A Case of police confinement, presented by Sri. Rajesh Hasija[Case 4]:

 

After Dr. Miller’s session concluded, Sri. Rajesh Hasija, brought up the chart of an individual known to him – for recurrent professional obstacles and for sudden kidnapping and subsequent confinement in a police station, for the duration of 16 long hrs [ w.e.f. Noon on 17th Feb ’07 till 4.00AM on the 18th]. The chart [sagittarius Asdt] of this individual appears below [Case 4].

 

Prof Choudhry, identified the root of his recurrent professional setbacks and his well known vulnerability to cheating & his naivete-all to the weakness of the Asdt Lord, close affliction of Rahu to the MEP of the ascendant and to the closely exactly afflicted Me. It was reported by Rajesh Hasija that he had a dominating mother [MMP Mo in the IIH of the family], but a wife who was a source of grace in life [exalted benefic Ve in the IVH]. The Prof identified the currently occurring stationary nodal affliction to the natal Su as the immediate triggering factor for penalization by the authorities & the law. In addition Tr Me also suffered exact affliction by natal Ke, while the Tr Asdt Lord Ju and the Tr IIIH Lord Sa were in the malefic XII & the VIII Hs respectively. Prof Choudhry pointed out, and as also some SA astrologers realized - Tr Ju’s exact aspect on natal Ve & natal Ju’s exact aspect on Tr Ve acted as compensatory blessings in the highly propitious sub-period of the exalted benefic Ve, thereby giving him easy release from police confinement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Sri Vikaas V Sharma Presentation on the Numerological Significance of Names[Case 5]:

 

The next presentation was by Sri Vikaas Sharma. Though the present theme of his presentation was not strictly within the framework of the SA, yet as he used the SA prescriptions for the functional nature of planets for each Asdt, his numerological work was allowed to be presented.

 

Sri VVS took the charts of people like Shahrukh Khan & some others and illustrated according to some numerological coding [either the Chaldean or the Pythagorean] that any given name could be reduced to a certain resultant number. On the other hand, each planet is also assigned a certain unique number according to these same numerological codes and in this way, he arrived at what may be called, numerologically, ‘ the ruling planet’ for the given individual. In SK’s Case, his name numerologically boiled down to the number 4, which in his numerological system was identified as the number for Ra. It must be noted that these numerological assignment of numbers to planets is very different from the assignment of numbers in classical Vedic Astrology.

 

Sri Vikaas Sharma explained that whenever ‘the number of an individual’, when evaluated in this way, became ‘the number of one of the FM planets’ in his chart [according to the SA] then, that will be the individual for whom, his name will act in a malefic way on his body-mind; even as the colours of FM planets in his chart will act in a malefic way on his person. His philosophy of numerology held that in such cases, the individual may go in for the ‘remedial measure’ of changing his name, just as he would change the colour of his clothes, so as to align himself with the influence of his benefic planetary energies. He said SK had strong Ra in the XH and this seemed to go very well with the ‘high worldly-drama’ that has always surrounded S. Khan!. In examining such charts of celebrities however, it will be well to bear in mind the note of caution that Prof Choudhry has often sounded in the context of such cases - that no one knows the real accuracy of the birth-details of these celebrities, since for reasons of privacy, the true birth-time may often be deliberately masked. Thus, any conclusions drawn from such charts always run the risk of suffering from such inherent limitations.

 

The presentation was for a small sample case studies and could not be validated.

 

Mr. VVS was awarded the Jyotish Visharad certificate by Prof Choudhry at the conclusion of the Conf, for successfully passing the SA exam at this level.

 

4. A Case of Cancer [Case 6], by Sri. Rajesh Hasija :

 

The second chart that came up for analysis & comments by the Prof and the SA astrologers, in the post-lunch session on the first day was put forward also by Sri. Rajesh Hasija. This was an Aquarius Asdt chart, with the Asdt Lord Sa, deb in the IIIH and further weakened by the exact aspect of Ra from the VIIH. The Prof pointed out that the deb of the Su as well as the weakness of the two vitality giving planets Ma and Su, due to extreme old age-were responsible in paving the way for the dreaded disease Cancer being diagnosed in 2005. Prof also drew attention to the distressing situation of the health giving planet [VIH Lord] Mo suffering a close affliction, thereby aggravating its bad-placement and old-age weakness in the most malefic VIIIH.

 

[Note: The severity of Ra’s affliction to the weak Asdt Lord Sa, in the natal chart is seen to be aggravated in the Div Chart pertaining to health, namely the D6, in which, again the deb Sa is badly-placed in the XIIH and also afflicted by all the 5 FMs of the D6 Taurus Asdt Div Chart, with not even a single redeeming beneficial aspect sending its healing rays on to that already sapped Sa.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5. Sri. Pradeep Sethi’s Case 7 - A chart with serious health concerns:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the evening-session after the Tea-break on the first day, this unusual chart was brought up for analysis by the Prof & for general discussion by a professional SA astrologer, Sri. Predeep Sethi.

 

He and his wife, Ms. Anju Sethi were unique in the SA circle, in that, both were professional SA -astrologers. Ms. Anju Sethi, as I learnt, was currently working on the Hindi translation of one of ’s works on the SA.

 

Sri P. Sethi said that this lady had serious digestion troubles and recurrent head-aches. Prof commenting on the chart said, the exact nodal affliction to Me, the VIH Lord [governing health], and simultaneous afflictions to Ju and Ve will “make way for many health problems”. It may be remembered that in the SA, the VIH rules the lower abdomen, kidneys, intestinal function and as Me also happens to be the significator of the VIH, the severity of the affliction got compounded. The pertinent remark of the Prof was that as the Asdt Lord Ma was relatively strong, in its exaltation sign [ nearly 2degs in the periphery of its combustion range], these recurrent health-problems were bound to be there, but that they were not severe enough to take the life of the lady in question.

 

One got a glimpse of the blind-superstitious beliefs into which Vedic Astrology had descended, when the Prof made an anecdotal reference to one such Vedic Astrological myth, that pertained to one of the days close to the DOB of the lady in question. It was alleged by some Vedic astrologers in India that on that day, some ‘great calamity was going to befall the land’ and that people at that appointed hour were even getting ready to rush out of their houses in panic, just to escape the misfortune of the ‘Heavens falling down on their heads’! Apparently, nothing of that sort happened, when that appointed hour arrived! For as the Prof pointed out, that was not a particularly inauspicious time, by SA reckoning.

 

6. Case of ‘blindness at birth’-by Col B. K. Kailash[Case 7]:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Strangely, the younger sister was also blind by birth. The Col, who had developed a passion for astrology and Pranic Healing, after 35 yrs of service in the Indian Army, had now taken to the SA and in a short and moving tribute he paid to the Prof, he said: “There are many Masters and is certainly one of them.”

 

Sri Kailashji asked how the SA makes allowance for the occurrence for blindness at birth, in the above chart. Birth occurred in the month of Jul 1969. Prof Choudhry’s remarks were the following. He said Ve gives vision and even though the birth occurred in the auspicious sub-period of Mo-Me, the bad placement of both the dasa as well as the bhukti Lords, become a contributory factor in the first place. Then, referring to the exact affliction to Ve from Ke, the Prof said that “whenever there is an exact affliction, problems surface in the first decade of life.”

 

Pradeep Sethi clarified a Q from me to the effect that in the SA, Ve signify the lenses of the eyes. When I asked Sri. Kailashji, how it was ever discovered that the baby was blind at birth; Prof Choudhry immediately examined the nodal affliction in the natal chart a couple of months after birth to ascertain the TSE that was probably crucial in causing blindness.

 

When the Prof was asked later whether the deb of Me in the D-6 chart & its affliction therein; and the affliction to Ve as well as to its MTH [iIH] therein; were not also contributory factors in the creation of blindness, he answered in the affirmative.

 

Sec 7: A Case of suspected blood cancer – fears allayed

[Case 8]:

 

In the context of clarifying the case of congenital blindness, Prof Choudhry touched on another case pertaining to medical astrology. An individual who was admitted to a famous hospital in Mumbai, one day called up the Prof in a state of panic, declaring that he has been diagnosed as having cancer. For his part, the Prof, after examining his chart and finding no SA support for ‘the theory of cancer diagnosis’, immediately found that currently the individual was under a Tr nodal affliction. He therefore spontaneously reassured the ‘hospital patient’ that it was not a dreadful cancer which was plaguing him, but only a karmic retribution in the form of a currently prevailing nodal affliction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reassuring message from Prof Choudhry had its remarkable healing effect on the patient, quite independent of the impact of the Remedial Measures, which were enjoined by the Prof and which were to follow this initial healing through the telephonic assurance. Thus emboldened, the patient came to his own defence [!] when he gently took up his case with the hospital doctors. He was discharged in Jun 2005 and was feeling absolutely fine after one & half years. He called on the Prof, in July, 2005. Summarizing the case, the Prof recapitulated a Sutra by now familiar to all SA astrologers: “ Sometimes clinical reports will be wrong when the nodes are Tr, stationary & also afflicting.”

 

 

 

8. A Yogi’s Chart - seen through the SA light [Case 9]:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This chart of a yogi [born 1957] was brought up in the Conf during the last session on the first day. The SA astrologer [sri Vikaas Vansh Sharma] who brought it up had known the yogi personally and could vouch for his Siddhis [miraculous spiritual powers], like the suspension of breath, etc.

 

This was a very important session for spiritual astrologers, as the Prof started throwing light on the lives of yogis and some spiritual leaders, who unfortunately had the influence of Ra in their natal charts, which had given their spiritual work a strong tilt into Ra’s sphere of deception & cheating. In support of his profound insight into the patterns of deception in the spiritual spheres, the Prof remarked that: “ If today, we find many spiritual leaders under Ra’s influence, this is because of a certain curse which was given to brahmin spiritual leaders in times past, that they will survive in Kali Yuga only by deception & cheating”.

 

In the chart of the yogi in Q, attention was drawn to Ra’s exact affliction on the IXH Lord, the Su as an important malefic influence destroying the spiritual significations of the Su as well as the IXH. When Sri VVS brought up the Q of the yogi’s Siddhis as possible proof of his spiritual bonafides, the Prof was quick to come to the truth, which most lay people are completely unaware of: “ They can have Siddhis to fool the people for sometime, but finally they will be exposed.”

 

Some 15 yrs ago [as I learnt after the Conf], the Prof was shown the chart of a Greek spiritual master, whereupon he did not mince any words in saying, what he felt to be the truth: “ She will have a short life span and will also have B.P. problems.” And this Greek master, we were told was also a divorcee.

 

On the second & concluding day of the Conf, the Prof shared another interesting chart of a genuine spiritual Master, whom he had known personally in his life. On the following day the Conf continued with the same intensity and vigour and I’ll cover these Proceedings in the 3rd Part which I’ll get ready in a day or two.

 

9. Conclusion of Part – 2 of the Proceedings:

 

I sincerely thank Prof Choudhry for his patience & time and for the responsibility he has given me in summarizing the Conf Proceedings. He has clarified a number of my Qs on the Conf sessions even as lately as this morning. I am very thankful to all the SA astrologers who answered my Qs at the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous learning experience. I am most beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, for the silent and selfless service he rendered to us all, thereby making the Conf a very pleasant and memorable event. Thanks are also due to Sri Kannanji for his excellent assistance in the preparation of the PPP, as well as in getting Parts 2 & 3 of the Proceedings ready.

 

I wish to also submit that any omissions, distortions & errors in my summary are due to my own inadvertence and I therefore request all members of the SA community to condone these possible failings.

 

Best regards,

 

Sankara Bhagavadpada.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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amit_patnaik6

Friday, March 02, 2007 10:01 PM

Re: IIPA INTL CONF-II-PARTt-2

 

 

Dear Dr Sankara, Due to some reason I dont see the attachment in the post, is there anyway you can email it to me or maybe add it to the Files section of the list.Best RegardsAmit , "SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA" <sankara wrote:>> Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,> > Namasthe. Please find attached Part-2 of the Proceedings of the IIPA Intl Conf-II.I hope, for those of us, who have missed this Conf, this summary of the Proceedings, will bring some satisfaction-even though, this can never compare with the actual particpation in the Conf, in the august presence of Prof.Choudhry.> > Best Regards> Sankara Bhagavadpada>

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Dear Dr Sankara,

 

Yes I did read the proceeding but was unable to see any images

attached to it, but anyway it was really interesting and I greatly

appreciate your efforts.

 

Best Regards

Amit

, " SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA " <sankara

wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Amitji,

>

> I am now sending part-2, again, as desired by you- as an attachment

and also as a doc.Do let me know, if the whole thing comes to you in

proper shape.

> Best Regards

> S.Bhagavadpada

> International Institute of Predictive Astrology[iIPA], Fairfield,

USA.

>

> IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers

>

> Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.

>

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> Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.

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> PROCEEDINGS-PART 2

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> Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,

>

>

>

> Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by respected

>

> , I shall now move on to Part-2 of the Conf

Proceedings, which covers fully the events of the first day. In Part-

3, which I'll get ready in a day or two, the second day's Proceedings

will be covered.

>

>

>

> 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller's Presentation[Case 3]:

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>

>

> In the forenoon session of the first day, after 's

address drew to a close, Dr. Jonathan Miller was called upon to make

a presentation of his work. For his part, Dr. Miller, who along with

his wife Dr. Sloan Jonathan has been involved in health-care, medical

& healing work in the US as well as in Sikkim, was using medical SA

astrology in his essentially medical work, so as to gain greater

clarity into the timing of diseases and the timing of recovery, and

the healing through the Remedial Measures as well. Firstly, he spoke

of certain kinds of Remedial Measures, like color therapy, as a kind

of 'resonance phenomena'[by analogy with 'resonance-as understood in

Physics', between two stringed musical instruments, whenever they are

placed side by side].

>

>

>

> Thus, on account of this 'resonance-phenomena' whenever, for

example, a patient underwent irradiation by coloured light of

specific frequencies, the patient's whole body-mind was made

to 'vibrate in resonance' at the energy of that particular FB planet

[whose colour was being used as a Remedial Measure for healing] and

this facilitated healing. Although he was invoking the research work

of a Swiss mathematician, who had made correlations between the

energies of the orbiting planets on the one hand and various colours

of the spectrum, on the other; very significantly, Dr. Miller had no

hesitation in making it known to the delegates that he had a

preference for the findings of the Sages, rather than for those of

modern 'scientific research'.

>

>

>

> In the second half of his presentation, he brought forth the case

of one of his patients[Case-3, a Libra Asdt] who had sustained

multiple fractures in an accident[a TSE], which had occurred on June

30th, '06. Though the misfortune of an accident had befallen the

patient, he was well off and had the luxury of a villa to add to the

happiness in times of trouble. The Ju-Ju sub-period was running and

in the MTH of Ju, the sub-period Lord, there was 'resident' an

affliction from the MMP, Me to Sa, the significator of bones,

structures, joints, etc. Crucially, the IIIH signifies the shoulders,

collar-bone, especially, on the right side.

>

>

>

> Unable to identify the cause of the accident in the Tr chart of Jun

30th '06, Dr. Miller asked the Prof to throw light on the same. Prof.

Choudhry remarked that, there was an SA sutra here at work-which can

often be easily missed, on account of its subtlety. He put the SA

Sutra in this form: " When a FB planet becomes the dispositor of an

affliction, the results of affliction surface during the sub period

and transit influence of that FB planet. " All SA astrologers probably

recognized that as Ke from the VIH of accidents, closely aspects the

Asdt Lord in the natal chart, in the dreaded sign of Scorpio; and as

natal Sa was under close affliction from the MMP in the IIIH, there

was already, 'sufficient ground' for possible accidents of a grievous

kind, in the natal chart itself.

>

>

>

> However, in reply to Dr. Miller's question, pertaining to the

decipherment of the TSE of this accident, the Prof implied that on

account of the above subtle sutra governing the accident, the Tr

chart of the accident, 'will not identify', 'the usual Tr afflictions

from FMs', as the cause of the accident. Instead now, the SA was

teaching us that an 'ostensibly beneficial FB' was going to trigger

the accident! This was by far the most unexpected lesson and puts SA

astrologers on guard - asking them to be watchful over even FBs-

whenever these 'ostensibly beneficial FBs' house afflictions in their

MTHs and when ever their sub-periods are running. Dr. Miller must be

thanked for having brought up this enigmatic TSE, for Prof's

comments. This new SA Sutra, may in fact be considered to be one of

the 'gems' that have highlighted in the course of the Conf.

>

>

>

> The Prof also clarified, in reply to a question that natal Ma's

eighth aspect falling exactly on the natal Asdt Lord Ve in the Sign

Scorpio was certainly not a factor at all, in creating this massive

injury-since in the SA, a FB Ma does not create any malefic events

like injuries and accidents.

>

>

>

> Notice the placement of Sa & the MMP Me in the natal chart, as well

as the Tr impact of the sub-period Lord Ju on the Asdt. The Tr chart

on the day of the accident makes sense, only because of the new SA

sutra. As Sa rules bones, joints & structures, and the natal

affliction to Sa, occurs in the IIIH, the Tr impact of Ju on the

Asdt, 'delivered the affliction' on to the IH of the body.

Significantly, this Tr Ju, which functions like a FM Lord, also

influences the 3rd sign Gemini, as well as the MTH of Sa. It must be

noted that this Tr Ju, the dispositor of the affliction in its MTH,

was on the day of the accident in R-motion and approaching its

perfect stationarity. When was later asked, about the

contributory role played by two seemingly important factors-namely

the Tr Asdt Lord Ve in the VIIIH of accidents, just 2 degs close to

the MEP and the stationarity of the 'ostensibly beneficial FB Ju', as

it hovered over the MEP of the Asdt, before 'delivering the

affliction in its MTH, on to the Asdt'; the Prof mentioned that both

these contributory factors were also significant in triggering the

malefic TSE of the accident.

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2. A Case of police confinement, presented by Sri. Rajesh Hasija

[Case 4]:

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>

>

> After Dr. Miller's session concluded, Sri. Rajesh Hasija, brought

up the chart of an individual known to him - for recurrent

professional obstacles and for sudden kidnapping and subsequent

confinement in a police station, for the duration of 16 long hrs [

w.e.f. Noon on 17th Feb '07 till 4.00AM on the 18th]. The chart

[sagittarius Asdt] of this individual appears below [Case 4].

>

>

>

> Prof Choudhry, identified the root of his recurrent professional

setbacks and his well known vulnerability to cheating & his naivete-

all to the weakness of the Asdt Lord, close affliction of Rahu to

the MEP of the ascendant and to the closely exactly afflicted Me. It

was reported by Rajesh Hasija that he had a dominating mother [MMP

Mo in the IIH of the family], but a wife who was a source of grace in

life [exalted benefic Ve in the IVH]. The Prof identified the

currently occurring stationary nodal affliction to the natal Su as

the immediate triggering factor for penalization by the authorities &

the law. In addition Tr Me also suffered exact affliction by natal

Ke, while the Tr Asdt Lord Ju and the Tr IIIH Lord Sa were in the

malefic XII & the VIII Hs respectively. Prof Choudhry pointed out,

and as also some SA astrologers realized - Tr Ju's exact aspect on

natal Ve & natal Ju's exact aspect on Tr Ve acted as compensatory

blessings in the highly propitious sub-period of the exalted benefic

Ve, thereby giving him easy release from police confinement.

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3. Sri Vikaas V Sharma Presentation on the Numerological

Significance of Names[Case 5]:

>

>

>

> The next presentation was by Sri Vikaas Sharma. Though the present

theme of his presentation was not strictly within the framework of

the SA, yet as he used the SA prescriptions for the functional nature

of planets for each Asdt, his numerological work was allowed to be

presented.

>

>

>

> Sri VVS took the charts of people like Shahrukh Khan & some others

and illustrated according to some numerological coding [either the

Chaldean or the Pythagorean] that any given name could be reduced to

a certain resultant number. On the other hand, each planet is also

assigned a certain unique number according to these same

numerological codes and in this way, he arrived at what may be

called, numerologically, ' the ruling planet' for the given

individual. In SK's Case, his name numerologically boiled down to the

number 4, which in his numerological system was identified as the

number for Ra. It must be noted that these numerological assignment

of numbers to planets is very different from the assignment of

numbers in classical Vedic Astrology.

>

>

>

> Sri Vikaas Sharma explained that whenever 'the number of an

individual', when evaluated in this way, became 'the number of one of

the FM planets' in his chart [according to the SA] then, that will be

the individual for whom, his name will act in a malefic way on his

body-mind; even as the colours of FM planets in his chart will act in

a malefic way on his person. His philosophy of numerology held that

in such cases, the individual may go in for the 'remedial measure' of

changing his name, just as he would change the colour of his clothes,

so as to align himself with the influence of his benefic planetary

energies. He said SK had strong Ra in the XH and this seemed to go

very well with the 'high worldly-drama' that has always surrounded

S. Khan!. In examining such charts of celebrities however, it will be

well to bear in mind the note of caution that Prof Choudhry has often

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diagnosed as having cancer. For his part, the Prof, after examining

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charts, which had given their spiritual work a strong tilt into Ra's

sphere of deception & cheating. In support of his profound insight

into the patterns of deception in the spiritual spheres, the Prof

remarked that: " If today, we find many spiritual leaders under Ra's

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lately as this morning. I am very thankful to all the SA astrologers

who answered my Qs at the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous

learning experience. I am most beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, for

the silent and selfless service he rendered to us all, thereby making

the Conf a very pleasant and memorable event. Thanks are also due to

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> Friday, March 02, 2007 10:01 PM

> Re: IIPA INTL CONF-II-PARTt-2

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> Dear Dr Sankara,

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> Due to some reason I dont see the attachment in the post, is

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> > Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,

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> > Namasthe. Please find attached Part-2 of the Proceedings of the

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> Intl Conf-II.I hope, for those of us, who have missed this Conf,

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> this can never compare with the actual particpation in the Conf,

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> august presence of Prof.Choudhry.

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> > Best Regards

> > Sankara Bhagavadpada

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Dear Sri Amitji,

 

Thanks for the kind words.I am sorry about the missing charts.I had also sent an attachment-did you have trouble even with the Attmnt?

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Re: -PARTt-2-for AMITji

 

 

Dear Dr Sankara, Yes I did read the proceeding but was unable to see any images attached to it, but anyway it was really interesting and I greatly appreciate your efforts.Best RegardsAmit , "SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA" <sankara wrote:>> Dear Sri Amitji,> > I am now sending part-2, again, as desired by you- as an attachment and also as a doc.Do let me know, if the whole thing comes to you in proper shape.> Best Regards> S.Bhagavadpada> International Institute of Predictive Astrology[iIPA], Fairfield, USA.> > IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers> > Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.> > > > Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.> > > > PROCEEDINGS-PART 2> > > > > > Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,> > > > Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by respected > > , I shall now move on to Part-2 of the Conf Proceedings, which covers fully the events of the first day. In Part-3, which I'll get ready in a day or two, the second day's Proceedings will be covered.> > > > 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller's Presentation[Case 3]:> > > > In the forenoon session of the first day, after 's address drew to a close, Dr. Jonathan Miller was called upon to make a presentation of his work. For his part, Dr. Miller, who along with his wife Dr. Sloan Jonathan has been involved in health-care, medical & healing work in the US as well as in Sikkim, was using medical SA astrology in his essentially medical work, so as to gain greater clarity into the timing of diseases and the timing of recovery, and the healing through the Remedial Measures as well. Firstly, he spoke of certain kinds of Remedial Measures, like color therapy, as a kind of 'resonance phenomena'[by analogy with 'resonance-as understood in Physics', between two stringed musical instruments, whenever they are placed side by side]. > > > > Thus, on account of this 'resonance-phenomena' whenever, for example, a patient underwent irradiation by coloured light of specific frequencies, the patient's whole body-mind was made to 'vibrate in resonance' at the energy of that particular FB planet[whose colour was being used as a Remedial Measure for healing] and this facilitated healing. Although he was invoking the research work of a Swiss mathematician, who had made correlations between the energies of the orbiting planets on the one hand and various colours of the spectrum, on the other; very significantly, Dr. Miller had no hesitation in making it known to the delegates that he had a preference for the findings of the Sages, rather than for those of modern 'scientific research'. > > > > In the second half of his presentation, he brought forth the case of one of his patients[Case-3, a Libra Asdt] who had sustained multiple fractures in an accident[a TSE], which had occurred on June 30th, '06. Though the misfortune of an accident had befallen the patient, he was well off and had the luxury of a villa to add to the happiness in times of trouble. The Ju-Ju sub-period was running and in the MTH of Ju, the sub-period Lord, there was 'resident' an affliction from the MMP, Me to Sa, the significator of bones, structures, joints, etc. Crucially, the IIIH signifies the shoulders, collar-bone, especially, on the right side.> > > > Unable to identify the cause of the accident in the Tr chart of Jun 30th '06, Dr. Miller asked the Prof to throw light on the same. remarked that, there was an SA sutra here at work-which can often be easily missed, on account of its subtlety. He put the SA Sutra in this form: "When a FB planet becomes the dispositor of an affliction, the results of affliction surface during the sub period and transit influence of that FB planet." All SA astrologers probably recognized that as Ke from the VIH of accidents, closely aspects the Asdt Lord in the natal chart, in the dreaded sign of Scorpio; and as natal Sa was under close affliction from the MMP in the IIIH, there was already, 'sufficient ground' for possible accidents of a grievous kind, in the natal chart itself. > > > > However, in reply to Dr. Miller's question, pertaining to the decipherment of the TSE of this accident, the Prof implied that on account of the above subtle sutra governing the accident, the Tr chart of the accident, 'will not identify', 'the usual Tr afflictions from FMs', as the cause of the accident. Instead now, the SA was teaching us that an 'ostensibly beneficial FB' was going to trigger the accident! This was by far the most unexpected lesson and puts SA astrologers on guard - asking them to be watchful over even FBs- whenever these 'ostensibly beneficial FBs' house afflictions in their MTHs and when ever their sub-periods are running. Dr. Miller must be thanked for having brought up this enigmatic TSE, for Prof's comments. This new SA Sutra, may in fact be considered to be one of the 'gems' that have highlighted in the course of the Conf. > > > > The Prof also clarified, in reply to a question that natal Ma's eighth aspect falling exactly on the natal Asdt Lord Ve in the Sign Scorpio was certainly not a factor at all, in creating this massive injury-since in the SA, a FB Ma does not create any malefic events like injuries and accidents.> > > > Notice the placement of Sa & the MMP Me in the natal chart, as well as the Tr impact of the sub-period Lord Ju on the Asdt. The Tr chart on the day of the accident makes sense, only because of the new SA sutra. As Sa rules bones, joints & structures, and the natal affliction to Sa, occurs in the IIIH, the Tr impact of Ju on the Asdt, 'delivered the affliction' on to the IH of the body. Significantly, this Tr Ju, which functions like a FM Lord, also influences the 3rd sign Gemini, as well as the MTH of Sa. It must be noted that this Tr Ju, the dispositor of the affliction in its MTH, was on the day of the accident in R-motion and approaching its perfect stationarity. When was later asked, about the contributory role played by two seemingly important factors-namely the Tr Asdt Lord Ve in the VIIIH of accidents, just 2 degs close to the MEP and the stationarity of the 'ostensibly beneficial FB Ju', as it hovered over the MEP of the Asdt, before 'delivering the affliction in its MTH, on to the Asdt'; the Prof mentioned that both these contributory factors were also significant in triggering the malefic TSE of the accident. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. A Case of police confinement, presented by Sri. Rajesh Hasija[Case 4]:> > > > After Dr. Miller's session concluded, Sri. Rajesh Hasija, brought up the chart of an individual known to him - for recurrent professional obstacles and for sudden kidnapping and subsequent confinement in a police station, for the duration of 16 long hrs [ w.e.f. Noon on 17th Feb '07 till 4.00AM on the 18th]. The chart [sagittarius Asdt] of this individual appears below [Case 4]. > > > > Prof Choudhry, identified the root of his recurrent professional setbacks and his well known vulnerability to cheating & his naivete-all to the weakness of the Asdt Lord, close affliction of Rahu to the MEP of the ascendant and to the closely exactly afflicted Me. It was reported by Rajesh Hasija that he had a dominating mother [MMP Mo in the IIH of the family], but a wife who was a source of grace in life [exalted benefic Ve in the IVH]. The Prof identified the currently occurring stationary nodal affliction to the natal Su as the immediate triggering factor for penalization by the authorities & the law. 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Though the present theme of his presentation was not strictly within the framework of the SA, yet as he used the SA prescriptions for the functional nature of planets for each Asdt, his numerological work was allowed to be presented. > > > > Sri VVS took the charts of people like Shahrukh Khan & some others and illustrated according to some numerological coding [either the Chaldean or the Pythagorean] that any given name could be reduced to a certain resultant number. On the other hand, each planet is also assigned a certain unique number according to these same numerological codes and in this way, he arrived at what may be called, numerologically, ' the ruling planet' for the given individual. In SK's Case, his name numerologically boiled down to the number 4, which in his numerological system was identified as the number for Ra. It must be noted that these numerological assignment of numbers to planets is very different from the assignment of numbers in classical Vedic Astrology. > > > > Sri Vikaas Sharma explained that whenever 'the number of an individual', when evaluated in this way, became 'the number of one of the FM planets' in his chart [according to the SA] then, that will be the individual for whom, his name will act in a malefic way on his body-mind; even as the colours of FM planets in his chart will act in a malefic way on his person. His philosophy of numerology held that in such cases, the individual may go in for the 'remedial measure' of changing his name, just as he would change the colour of his clothes, so as to align himself with the influence of his benefic planetary energies. He said SK had strong Ra in the XH and this seemed to go very well with the 'high worldly-drama' that has always surrounded S. Khan!. 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This was an Aquarius Asdt chart, with the Asdt Lord Sa, deb in the IIIH and further weakened by the exact aspect of Ra from the VIIH. The Prof pointed out that the deb of the Su as well as the weakness of the two vitality giving planets Ma and Su, due to extreme old age-were responsible in paving the way for the dreaded disease Cancer being diagnosed in 2005. Prof also drew attention to the distressing situation of the health giving planet [VIH Lord] Mo suffering a close affliction, thereby aggravating its bad-placement and old-age weakness in the most malefic VIIIH. > > > > [Note: The severity of Ra's affliction to the weak Asdt Lord Sa, in the natal chart is seen to be aggravated in the Div Chart pertaining to health, namely the D6, in which, again the deb Sa is badly-placed in the XIIH and also afflicted by all the 5 FMs of the D6 Taurus Asdt Div Chart, with not even a single redeeming beneficial aspect sending its healing rays on to that already sapped Sa.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri. Pradeep Sethi's Case 7 - A chart with serious health concerns:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the evening-session after the Tea-break on the first day, this unusual chart was brought up for analysis by the Prof & for general discussion by a professional SA astrologer, Sri. Predeep Sethi.> > > > He and his wife, Ms. Anju Sethi were unique in the SA circle, in that, both were professional SA -astrologers. Ms. Anju Sethi, as I learnt, was currently working on the Hindi translation of one of 's works on the SA.> > > > Sri P. Sethi said that this lady had serious digestion troubles and recurrent head-aches. Prof commenting on the chart said, the exact nodal affliction to Me, the VIH Lord [governing health], and simultaneous afflictions to Ju and Ve will "make way for many health problems". It may be remembered that in the SA, the VIH rules the lower abdomen, kidneys, intestinal function and as Me also happens to be the significator of the VIH, the severity of the affliction got compounded. The pertinent remark of the Prof was that as the Asdt Lord Ma was relatively strong, in its exaltation sign [ nearly 2degs in the periphery of its combustion range], these recurrent health-problems were bound to be there, but that they were not severe enough to take the life of the lady in question.> > > > One got a glimpse of the blind-superstitious beliefs into which Vedic Astrology had descended, when the Prof made an anecdotal reference to one such Vedic Astrological myth, that pertained to one of the days close to the DOB of the lady in question. It was alleged by some Vedic astrologers in India that on that day, some 'great calamity was going to befall the land' and that people at that appointed hour were even getting ready to rush out of their houses in panic, just to escape the misfortune of the 'Heavens falling down on their heads'! Apparently, nothing of that sort happened, when that appointed hour arrived! For as the Prof pointed out, that was not a particularly inauspicious time, by SA reckoning. > > > > 6. Case of 'blindness at birth'-by Col B. K. Kailash[Case 7]:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strangely, the younger sister was also blind by birth. The Col, who had developed a passion for astrology and Pranic Healing, after 35 yrs of service in the Indian Army, had now taken to the SA and in a short and moving tribute he paid to the Prof, he said: "There are many Masters and is certainly one of them."> > > > Sri Kailashji asked how the SA makes allowance for the occurrence for blindness at birth, in the above chart. Birth occurred in the month of Jul 1969. Prof Choudhry's remarks were the following. He said Ve gives vision and even though the birth occurred in the auspicious sub-period of Mo-Me, the bad placement of both the dasa as well as the bhukti Lords, become a contributory factor in the first place. Then, referring to the exact affliction to Ve from Ke, the Prof said that "whenever there is an exact affliction, problems surface in the first decade of life." > > > > Pradeep Sethi clarified a Q from me to the effect that in the SA, Ve signify the lenses of the eyes. When I asked Sri. 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For his part, the Prof, after examining his chart and finding no SA support for 'the theory of cancer diagnosis', immediately found that currently the individual was under a Tr nodal affliction. He therefore spontaneously reassured the 'hospital patient' that it was not a dreadful cancer which was plaguing him, but only a karmic retribution in the form of a currently prevailing nodal affliction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reassuring message from Prof Choudhry had its remarkable healing effect on the patient, quite independent of the impact of the Remedial Measures, which were enjoined by the Prof and which were to follow this initial healing through the telephonic assurance. Thus emboldened, the patient came to his own defence [!] when he gently took up his case with the hospital doctors. He was discharged in Jun 2005 and was feeling absolutely fine after one & half years. He called on the Prof, in July, 2005. Summarizing the case, the Prof recapitulated a Sutra by now familiar to all SA astrologers: " Sometimes clinical reports will be wrong when the nodes are Tr, stationary & also afflicting." > > > > > > > > 8. A Yogi's Chart - seen through the SA light [Case 9]:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart of a yogi [born 1957] was brought up in the Conf during the last session on the first day. The SA astrologer [sri Vikaas Vansh Sharma] who brought it up had known the yogi personally and could vouch for his Siddhis [miraculous spiritual powers], like the suspension of breath, etc. > > > > This was a very important session for spiritual astrologers, as the Prof started throwing light on the lives of yogis and some spiritual leaders, who unfortunately had the influence of Ra in their natal charts, which had given their spiritual work a strong tilt into Ra's sphere of deception & cheating. In support of his profound insight into the patterns of deception in the spiritual spheres, the Prof remarked that: " If today, we find many spiritual leaders under Ra's influence, this is because of a certain curse which was given to brahmin spiritual leaders in times past, that they will survive in Kali Yuga only by deception & cheating". > > > > In the chart of the yogi in Q, attention was drawn to Ra's exact affliction on the IXH Lord, the Su as an important malefic influence destroying the spiritual significations of the Su as well as the IXH. When Sri VVS brought up the Q of the yogi's Siddhis as possible proof of his spiritual bonafides, the Prof was quick to come to the truth, which most lay people are completely unaware of: " They can have Siddhis to fool the people for sometime, but finally they will be exposed."> > > > Some 15 yrs ago [as I learnt after the Conf], the Prof was shown the chart of a Greek spiritual master, whereupon he did not mince any words in saying, what he felt to be the truth: " She will have a short life span and will also have B.P. problems." And this Greek master, we were told was also a divorcee. > > > > On the second & concluding day of the Conf, the Prof shared another interesting chart of a genuine spiritual Master, whom he had known personally in his life. On the following day the Conf continued with the same intensity and vigour and I'll cover these Proceedings in the 3rd Part which I'll get ready in a day or two.> > > > 9. Conclusion of Part - 2 of the Proceedings:> > > > I sincerely thank Prof Choudhry for his patience & time and for the responsibility he has given me in summarizing the Conf Proceedings. He has clarified a number of my Qs on the Conf sessions even as lately as this morning. I am very thankful to all the SA astrologers who answered my Qs at the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous learning experience. I am most beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, for the silent and selfless service he rendered to us all, thereby making the Conf a very pleasant and memorable event. Thanks are also due to Sri Kannanji for his excellent assistance in the preparation of the PPP, as well as in getting Parts 2 & 3 of the Proceedings ready.> > > > I wish to also submit that any omissions, distortions & errors in my summary are due to my own inadvertence and I therefore request all members of the SA community to condone these possible failings.> > > > Best regards,> > > > Sankara Bhagavadpada.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > amit_patnaik6 > > Friday, March 02, 2007 10:01 PM> Re: IIPA INTL CONF-II-PARTt-2> > > > Dear Dr Sankara, > > Due to some reason I dont see the attachment in the post, is there > anyway you can email it to me or maybe add it to the Files section of > the list.> > Best Regards> Amit> > , "SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA" <sankara@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,> > > > Namasthe. Please find attached Part-2 of the Proceedings of the IIPA > Intl Conf-II.I hope, for those of us, who have missed this Conf, this > summary of the Proceedings, will bring some satisfaction-even though, > this can never compare with the actual particpation in the Conf, in the > august presence of Prof.Choudhry.> > > > Best Regards> > Sankara Bhagavadpada> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr Sankara and list,

Though I did not see the charts but I had no problems with the

attachement text, thank you .

I also appreciate the Yuga theory of Shri Yukteshwara which you have

bought up, for those on the list who want to read the explanation,

can get a copy of the Holy Science by Shri Yukteshwara Giri.

 

Thanks and Regards

Amit

 

 

, " Sankara Bhagavadpada " <sankara

wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Amitji,

>

> Thanks for the kind words.I am sorry about the missing charts.I had

also sent an attachment-did you have trouble even with the Attmnt?

> Best Regards

> Sankara

> -

> amit_patnaik6

>

> Monday, March 05, 2007 8:35 PM

> Re: -PARTt-2-for AMITji

>

>

>

> Dear Dr Sankara,

>

> Yes I did read the proceeding but was unable to see any images

> attached to it, but anyway it was really interesting and I

greatly

> appreciate your efforts.

>

> Best Regards

> Amit

> , " SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA "

<sankara@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Amitji,

> >

> > I am now sending part-2, again, as desired by you- as an

attachment

> and also as a doc.Do let me know, if the whole thing comes to you

in

> proper shape.

> > Best Regards

> > S.Bhagavadpada

> > International Institute of Predictive Astrology[iIPA],

Fairfield,

> USA.

> >

> > IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers

> >

> > Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.

> >

> >

> >

> > Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.

> >

> >

> >

> > PROCEEDINGS-PART 2

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,

> >

> >

> >

> > Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by respected

> >

> > , I shall now move on to Part-2 of the Conf

> Proceedings, which covers fully the events of the first day. In

Part-

> 3, which I'll get ready in a day or two, the second day's

Proceedings

> will be covered.

> >

> >

> >

> > 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller's Presentation[Case 3]:

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> >

> > In the forenoon session of the first day, after Prof.

Choudhry's

> address drew to a close, Dr. Jonathan Miller was called upon to

make

> a presentation of his work. For his part, Dr. Miller, who along

with

> his wife Dr. Sloan Jonathan has been involved in health-care,

medical

> & healing work in the US as well as in Sikkim, was using medical

SA

> astrology in his essentially medical work, so as to gain greater

> clarity into the timing of diseases and the timing of recovery,

and

> the healing through the Remedial Measures as well. Firstly, he

spoke

> of certain kinds of Remedial Measures, like color therapy, as a

kind

> of 'resonance phenomena'[by analogy with 'resonance-as understood

in

> Physics', between two stringed musical instruments, whenever they

are

> placed side by side].

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> >

> > Thus, on account of this 'resonance-phenomena' whenever, for

> example, a patient underwent irradiation by coloured light of

> specific frequencies, the patient's whole body-mind was made

> to 'vibrate in resonance' at the energy of that particular FB

planet

> [whose colour was being used as a Remedial Measure for healing]

and

> this facilitated healing. Although he was invoking the research

work

> of a Swiss mathematician, who had made correlations between the

> energies of the orbiting planets on the one hand and various

colours

> of the spectrum, on the other; very significantly, Dr. Miller had

no

> hesitation in making it known to the delegates that he had a

> preference for the findings of the Sages, rather than for those

of

> modern 'scientific research'.

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> >

> >

> > In the second half of his presentation, he brought forth the

case

> of one of his patients[Case-3, a Libra Asdt] who had sustained

> multiple fractures in an accident[a TSE], which had occurred on

June

> 30th, '06. Though the misfortune of an accident had befallen the

> patient, he was well off and had the luxury of a villa to add to

the

> happiness in times of trouble. The Ju-Ju sub-period was running

and

> in the MTH of Ju, the sub-period Lord, there was 'resident' an

> affliction from the MMP, Me to Sa, the significator of bones,

> structures, joints, etc. Crucially, the IIIH signifies the

shoulders,

> collar-bone, especially, on the right side.

> >

> >

> >

> > Unable to identify the cause of the accident in the Tr chart of

Jun

> 30th '06, Dr. Miller asked the Prof to throw light on the same.

Prof.

> Choudhry remarked that, there was an SA sutra here at work-which

can

> often be easily missed, on account of its subtlety. He put the SA

> Sutra in this form: " When a FB planet becomes the dispositor of

an

> affliction, the results of affliction surface during the sub

period

> and transit influence of that FB planet. " All SA astrologers

probably

> recognized that as Ke from the VIH of accidents, closely aspects

the

> Asdt Lord in the natal chart, in the dreaded sign of Scorpio; and

as

> natal Sa was under close affliction from the MMP in the IIIH,

there

> was already, 'sufficient ground' for possible accidents of a

grievous

> kind, in the natal chart itself.

> >

> >

> >

> > However, in reply to Dr. Miller's question, pertaining to the

> decipherment of the TSE of this accident, the Prof implied that

on

> account of the above subtle sutra governing the accident, the Tr

> chart of the accident, 'will not identify', 'the usual Tr

afflictions

> from FMs', as the cause of the accident. Instead now, the SA was

> teaching us that an 'ostensibly beneficial FB' was going to

trigger

> the accident! This was by far the most unexpected lesson and puts

SA

> astrologers on guard - asking them to be watchful over even FBs-

> whenever these 'ostensibly beneficial FBs' house afflictions in

their

> MTHs and when ever their sub-periods are running. Dr. Miller must

be

> thanked for having brought up this enigmatic TSE, for Prof's

> comments. This new SA Sutra, may in fact be considered to be one

of

> the 'gems' that have highlighted in the course of the Conf.

> >

> >

> >

> > The Prof also clarified, in reply to a question that natal Ma's

> eighth aspect falling exactly on the natal Asdt Lord Ve in the

Sign

> Scorpio was certainly not a factor at all, in creating this

massive

> injury-since in the SA, a FB Ma does not create any malefic

events

> like injuries and accidents.

> >

> >

> >

> > Notice the placement of Sa & the MMP Me in the natal chart, as

well

> as the Tr impact of the sub-period Lord Ju on the Asdt. The Tr

chart

> on the day of the accident makes sense, only because of the new

SA

> sutra. As Sa rules bones, joints & structures, and the natal

> affliction to Sa, occurs in the IIIH, the Tr impact of Ju on the

> Asdt, 'delivered the affliction' on to the IH of the body.

> Significantly, this Tr Ju, which functions like a FM Lord, also

> influences the 3rd sign Gemini, as well as the MTH of Sa. It must

be

> noted that this Tr Ju, the dispositor of the affliction in its

MTH,

> was on the day of the accident in R-motion and approaching its

> perfect stationarity. When was later asked, about

the

> contributory role played by two seemingly important factors-

namely

> the Tr Asdt Lord Ve in the VIIIH of accidents, just 2 degs close

to

> the MEP and the stationarity of the 'ostensibly beneficial FB

Ju', as

> it hovered over the MEP of the Asdt, before 'delivering the

> affliction in its MTH, on to the Asdt'; the Prof mentioned that

both

> these contributory factors were also significant in triggering

the

> malefic TSE of the accident.

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> > 2. A Case of police confinement, presented by Sri. Rajesh Hasija

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> > After Dr. Miller's session concluded, Sri. Rajesh Hasija,

brought

> up the chart of an individual known to him - for recurrent

> professional obstacles and for sudden kidnapping and subsequent

> confinement in a police station, for the duration of 16 long hrs

[

> w.e.f. Noon on 17th Feb '07 till 4.00AM on the 18th]. The chart

> [sagittarius Asdt] of this individual appears below [Case 4].

> >

> >

> >

> > Prof Choudhry, identified the root of his recurrent

professional

> setbacks and his well known vulnerability to cheating & his

naivete-

> all to the weakness of the Asdt Lord, close affliction of Rahu to

> the MEP of the ascendant and to the closely exactly afflicted Me.

It

> was reported by Rajesh Hasija that he had a dominating mother

[MMP

> Mo in the IIH of the family], but a wife who was a source of

grace in

> life [exalted benefic Ve in the IVH]. The Prof identified the

> currently occurring stationary nodal affliction to the natal Su

as

> the immediate triggering factor for penalization by the

authorities &

> the law. In addition Tr Me also suffered exact affliction by

natal

> Ke, while the Tr Asdt Lord Ju and the Tr IIIH Lord Sa were in the

> malefic XII & the VIII Hs respectively. Prof Choudhry pointed

out,

> and as also some SA astrologers realized - Tr Ju's exact aspect

on

> natal Ve & natal Ju's exact aspect on Tr Ve acted as compensatory

> blessings in the highly propitious sub-period of the exalted

benefic

> Ve, thereby giving him easy release from police confinement.

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> > The next presentation was by Sri Vikaas Sharma. Though the

present

> theme of his presentation was not strictly within the framework

of

> the SA, yet as he used the SA prescriptions for the functional

nature

> of planets for each Asdt, his numerological work was allowed to

be

> presented.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sri VVS took the charts of people like Shahrukh Khan & some

others

> and illustrated according to some numerological coding [either

the

> Chaldean or the Pythagorean] that any given name could be reduced

to

> a certain resultant number. On the other hand, each planet is

also

> assigned a certain unique number according to these same

> numerological codes and in this way, he arrived at what may be

> called, numerologically, ' the ruling planet' for the given

> individual. In SK's Case, his name numerologically boiled down to

the

> number 4, which in his numerological system was identified as the

> number for Ra. It must be noted that these numerological

assignment

> of numbers to planets is very different from the assignment of

> numbers in classical Vedic Astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sri Vikaas Sharma explained that whenever 'the number of an

> individual', when evaluated in this way, became 'the number of

one of

> the FM planets' in his chart [according to the SA] then, that

will be

> the individual for whom, his name will act in a malefic way on

his

> body-mind; even as the colours of FM planets in his chart will

act in

> a malefic way on his person. His philosophy of numerology held

that

> in such cases, the individual may go in for the 'remedial

measure' of

> changing his name, just as he would change the colour of his

clothes,

> so as to align himself with the influence of his benefic

planetary

> energies. He said SK had strong Ra in the XH and this seemed to

go

> very well with the 'high worldly-drama' that has always

surrounded

> S. Khan!. In examining such charts of celebrities however, it

will be

> well to bear in mind the note of caution that Prof Choudhry has

often

> sounded in the context of such cases - that no one knows the real

> accuracy of the birth-details of these celebrities, since for

reasons

> of privacy, the true birth-time may often be deliberately masked.

> Thus, any conclusions drawn from such charts always run the risk

of

> suffering from such inherent limitations.

> >

> >

> >

> > The presentation was for a small sample case studies and could

not

> be validated.

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> >

> >

> > Mr. VVS was awarded the Jyotish Visharad certificate by Prof

> Choudhry at the conclusion of the Conf, for successfully passing

the

> SA exam at this level.

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> > 4. A Case of Cancer [Case 6], by Sri. Rajesh Hasija :

> >

> >

> >

> > The second chart that came up for analysis & comments by the

Prof

> and the SA astrologers, in the post-lunch session on the first

day

> was put forward also by Sri. Rajesh Hasija. This was an Aquarius

Asdt

> chart, with the Asdt Lord Sa, deb in the IIIH and further

weakened by

> the exact aspect of Ra from the VIIH. The Prof pointed out that

the

> deb of the Su as well as the weakness of the two vitality giving

> planets Ma and Su, due to extreme old age-were responsible in

paving

> the way for the dreaded disease Cancer being diagnosed in 2005.

Prof

> also drew attention to the distressing situation of the health

giving

> planet [VIH Lord] Mo suffering a close affliction, thereby

> aggravating its bad-placement and old-age weakness in the most

> malefic VIIIH.

> >

> >

> >

> > [Note: The severity of Ra's affliction to the weak Asdt Lord

Sa, in

> the natal chart is seen to be aggravated in the Div Chart

pertaining

> to health, namely the D6, in which, again the deb Sa is badly-

placed

> in the XIIH and also afflicted by all the 5 FMs of the D6 Taurus

Asdt

> Div Chart, with not even a single redeeming beneficial aspect

sending

> its healing rays on to that already sapped Sa.]

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this

> unusual chart was brought up for analysis by the Prof & for

general

> discussion by a professional SA astrologer, Sri. Predeep Sethi.

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> >

> >

> > He and his wife, Ms. Anju Sethi were unique in the SA circle,

in

> that, both were professional SA -astrologers. Ms. Anju Sethi, as

I

> learnt, was currently working on the Hindi translation of one of

> 's works on the SA.

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> >

> > Sri P. Sethi said that this lady had serious digestion troubles

and

> recurrent head-aches. Prof commenting on the chart said, the

exact

> nodal affliction to Me, the VIH Lord [governing health], and

> simultaneous afflictions to Ju and Ve will " make way for many

health

> problems " . It may be remembered that in the SA, the VIH rules the

> lower abdomen, kidneys, intestinal function and as Me also

happens to

> be the significator of the VIH, the severity of the affliction

got

> compounded. The pertinent remark of the Prof was that as the Asdt

> Lord Ma was relatively strong, in its exaltation sign [ nearly

2degs

> in the periphery of its combustion range], these recurrent health-

> problems were bound to be there, but that they were not severe

enough

> to take the life of the lady in question.

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> >

> >

> > One got a glimpse of the blind-superstitious beliefs into which

> Vedic Astrology had descended, when the Prof made an anecdotal

> reference to one such Vedic Astrological myth, that pertained to

one

> of the days close to the DOB of the lady in question. It was

alleged

> by some Vedic astrologers in India that on that day, some 'great

> calamity was going to befall the land' and that people at that

> appointed hour were even getting ready to rush out of their

houses in

> panic, just to escape the misfortune of the 'Heavens falling down

on

> their heads'! Apparently, nothing of that sort happened, when

that

> appointed hour arrived! For as the Prof pointed out, that was not

a

> particularly inauspicious time, by SA reckoning.

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> > Strangely, the younger sister was also blind by birth. The Col,

who

> had developed a passion for astrology and Pranic Healing, after

35

> yrs of service in the Indian Army, had now taken to the SA and in

a

> short and moving tribute he paid to the Prof, he said: " There are

> many Masters and is certainly one of them. "

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> >

> > Sri Kailashji asked how the SA makes allowance for the

occurrence

> for blindness at birth, in the above chart. Birth occurred in the

> month of Jul 1969. Prof Choudhry's remarks were the following. He

> said Ve gives vision and even though the birth occurred in the

> auspicious sub-period of Mo-Me, the bad placement of both the

dasa as

> well as the bhukti Lords, become a contributory factor in the

first

> place. Then, referring to the exact affliction to Ve from Ke, the

> Prof said that " whenever there is an exact affliction, problems

> surface in the first decade of life. "

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> >

> >

> > Pradeep Sethi clarified a Q from me to the effect that in the

SA,

> Ve signify the lenses of the eyes. When I asked Sri. Kailashji,

how

> it was ever discovered that the baby was blind at birth; Prof

> Choudhry immediately examined the nodal affliction in the natal

chart

> a couple of months after birth to ascertain the TSE that was

probably

> crucial in causing blindness.

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> > When the Prof was asked later whether the deb of Me in the D-6

> chart & its affliction therein; and the affliction to Ve as well

as

> to its MTH [iIH] therein; were not also contributory factors in

the

> creation of blindness, he answered in the affirmative.

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> > Sec 7: A Case of suspected blood cancer - fears allayed

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> > In the context of clarifying the case of congenital blindness,

Prof

> Choudhry touched on another case pertaining to medical astrology.

An

> individual who was admitted to a famous hospital in Mumbai, one

day

> called up the Prof in a state of panic, declaring that he has

been

> diagnosed as having cancer. For his part, the Prof, after

examining

> his chart and finding no SA support for 'the theory of cancer

> diagnosis', immediately found that currently the individual was

under

> a Tr nodal affliction. He therefore spontaneously reassured

> the 'hospital patient' that it was not a dreadful cancer which

was

> plaguing him, but only a karmic retribution in the form of a

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> healing effect on the patient, quite independent of the impact of

the

> Remedial Measures, which were enjoined by the Prof and which were

to

> follow this initial healing through the telephonic assurance.

Thus

> emboldened, the patient came to his own defence [!] when he

gently

> took up his case with the hospital doctors. He was discharged in

Jun

> 2005 and was feeling absolutely fine after one & half years. He

> called on the Prof, in July, 2005. Summarizing the case, the Prof

> recapitulated a Sutra by now familiar to all SA astrologers: "

> Sometimes clinical reports will be wrong when the nodes are Tr,

> stationary & also afflicting. "

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> > This chart of a yogi [born 1957] was brought up in the Conf

during

> the last session on the first day. The SA astrologer [sri Vikaas

> Vansh Sharma] who brought it up had known the yogi personally and

> could vouch for his Siddhis [miraculous spiritual powers], like

the

> suspension of breath, etc.

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> >

> > This was a very important session for spiritual astrologers, as

the

> Prof started throwing light on the lives of yogis and some

spiritual

> leaders, who unfortunately had the influence of Ra in their natal

> charts, which had given their spiritual work a strong tilt into

Ra's

> sphere of deception & cheating. In support of his profound

insight

> into the patterns of deception in the spiritual spheres, the Prof

> remarked that: " If today, we find many spiritual leaders under

Ra's

> influence, this is because of a certain curse which was given to

> brahmin spiritual leaders in times past, that they will survive

in

> Kali Yuga only by deception & cheating " .

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> > In the chart of the yogi in Q, attention was drawn to Ra's

exact

> affliction on the IXH Lord, the Su as an important malefic

influence

> destroying the spiritual significations of the Su as well as the

> IXH. When Sri VVS brought up the Q of the yogi's Siddhis as

possible

> proof of his spiritual bonafides, the Prof was quick to come to

the

> truth, which most lay people are completely unaware of: " They

can

> have Siddhis to fool the people for sometime, but finally they

will

> be exposed. "

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> > Some 15 yrs ago [as I learnt after the Conf], the Prof was

shown

> the chart of a Greek spiritual master, whereupon he did not mince

any

> words in saying, what he felt to be the truth: " She will have a

> short life span and will also have B.P. problems. " And this Greek

> master, we were told was also a divorcee.

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> > On the second & concluding day of the Conf, the Prof shared

another

> interesting chart of a genuine spiritual Master, whom he had

known

> personally in his life. On the following day the Conf continued

with

> the same intensity and vigour and I'll cover these Proceedings in

the

> 3rd Part which I'll get ready in a day or two.

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> > 9. Conclusion of Part - 2 of the Proceedings:

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> > I sincerely thank Prof Choudhry for his patience & time and for

the

> responsibility he has given me in summarizing the Conf

Proceedings.

> He has clarified a number of my Qs on the Conf sessions even as

> lately as this morning. I am very thankful to all the SA

astrologers

> who answered my Qs at the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous

> learning experience. I am most beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary,

for

> the silent and selfless service he rendered to us all, thereby

making

> the Conf a very pleasant and memorable event. Thanks are also due

to

> Sri Kannanji for his excellent assistance in the preparation of

the

> PPP, as well as in getting Parts 2 & 3 of the Proceedings ready.

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> > I wish to also submit that any omissions, distortions & errors

in

> my summary are due to my own inadvertence and I therefore request

all

> members of the SA community to condone these possible failings.

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> > Best regards,

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> > Friday, March 02, 2007 10:01 PM

> > Re: IIPA INTL CONF-II-PARTt-2

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Dr Sankara,

> >

> > Due to some reason I dont see the attachment in the post, is

> there

> > anyway you can email it to me or maybe add it to the Files

> section of

> > the list.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Amit

> >

> > , " SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA "

> <sankara@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,

> > >

> > > Namasthe. Please find attached Part-2 of the Proceedings of

the

> IIPA

> > Intl Conf-II.I hope, for those of us, who have missed this

Conf,

> this

> > summary of the Proceedings, will bring some satisfaction-even

> though,

> > this can never compare with the actual particpation in the

Conf,

> in the

> > august presence of Prof.Choudhry.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Sankara Bhagavadpada

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Amitji,

 

Thanks for the feed-back and for letting me know that the Attachment was helpful.Thanks for the appreciation.

Best Regards

Sankara Bhagavadpada

 

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amit_patnaik6

Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:12 PM

Re: -PARTt-2-for AMITji

 

 

Dear Dr Sankara and list, Though I did not see the charts but I had no problems with the attachement text, thank you .I also appreciate the Yuga theory of Shri Yukteshwara which you have bought up, for those on the list who want to read the explanation, can get a copy of the Holy Science by Shri Yukteshwara Giri.Thanks and RegardsAmit , "Sankara Bhagavadpada" <sankara wrote:>> Dear Sri Amitji,> > Thanks for the kind words.I am sorry about the missing charts.I had also sent an attachment-did you have trouble even with the Attmnt?> Best Regards> Sankara > - > amit_patnaik6 > > Monday, March 05, 2007 8:35 PM> Re: -PARTt-2-for AMITji> > > > Dear Dr Sankara, > > Yes I did read the proceeding but was unable to see any images > attached to it, but anyway it was really interesting and I greatly > appreciate your efforts.> > Best Regards> Amit> , "SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA" <sankara@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Sri Amitji,> > > > I am now sending part-2, again, as desired by you- as an attachment > and also as a doc.Do let me know, if the whole thing comes to you in > proper shape.> > Best Regards> > S.Bhagavadpada> > International Institute of Predictive Astrology[iIPA], Fairfield, > USA.> > > > IInd International Conference of SA Astrologers> > > > Feb 24th , 25th, 2007; Gurgaon, India.> > > > > > > > Venue: Club South, South City-II, Gurgaon, India.> > > > > > > > PROCEEDINGS-PART 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prof. V.K. Choudhry and SA astrologers,> > > > > > > > Namasthe. Following the guidelines, provided by respected > > > > , I shall now move on to Part-2 of the Conf > Proceedings, which covers fully the events of the first day. In Part-> 3, which I'll get ready in a day or two, the second day's Proceedings > will be covered.> > > > > > > > 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller's Presentation[Case 3]:> > > > > > > > In the forenoon session of the first day, after 's > address drew to a close, Dr. Jonathan Miller was called upon to make > a presentation of his work. For his part, Dr. Miller, who along with > his wife Dr. Sloan Jonathan has been involved in health-care, medical > & healing work in the US as well as in Sikkim, was using medical SA > astrology in his essentially medical work, so as to gain greater > clarity into the timing of diseases and the timing of recovery, and > the healing through the Remedial Measures as well. Firstly, he spoke > of certain kinds of Remedial Measures, like color therapy, as a kind > of 'resonance phenomena'[by analogy with 'resonance-as understood in > Physics', between two stringed musical instruments, whenever they are > placed side by side]. > > > > > > > > Thus, on account of this 'resonance-phenomena' whenever, for > example, a patient underwent irradiation by coloured light of > specific frequencies, the patient's whole body-mind was made > to 'vibrate in resonance' at the energy of that particular FB planet> [whose colour was being used as a Remedial Measure for healing] and > this facilitated healing. Although he was invoking the research work > of a Swiss mathematician, who had made correlations between the > energies of the orbiting planets on the one hand and various colours > of the spectrum, on the other; very significantly, Dr. Miller had no > hesitation in making it known to the delegates that he had a > preference for the findings of the Sages, rather than for those of > modern 'scientific research'. > > > > > > > > In the second half of his presentation, he brought forth the case > of one of his patients[Case-3, a Libra Asdt] who had sustained > multiple fractures in an accident[a TSE], which had occurred on June > 30th, '06. Though the misfortune of an accident had befallen the > patient, he was well off and had the luxury of a villa to add to the > happiness in times of trouble. The Ju-Ju sub-period was running and > in the MTH of Ju, the sub-period Lord, there was 'resident' an > affliction from the MMP, Me to Sa, the significator of bones, > structures, joints, etc. Crucially, the IIIH signifies the shoulders, > collar-bone, especially, on the right side.> > > > > > > > Unable to identify the cause of the accident in the Tr chart of Jun > 30th '06, Dr. Miller asked the Prof to throw light on the same. Prof. > Choudhry remarked that, there was an SA sutra here at work-which can > often be easily missed, on account of its subtlety. He put the SA > Sutra in this form: "When a FB planet becomes the dispositor of an > affliction, the results of affliction surface during the sub period > and transit influence of that FB planet." All SA astrologers probably > recognized that as Ke from the VIH of accidents, closely aspects the > Asdt Lord in the natal chart, in the dreaded sign of Scorpio; and as > natal Sa was under close affliction from the MMP in the IIIH, there > was already, 'sufficient ground' for possible accidents of a grievous > kind, in the natal chart itself. > > > > > > > > However, in reply to Dr. Miller's question, pertaining to the > decipherment of the TSE of this accident, the Prof implied that on > account of the above subtle sutra governing the accident, the Tr > chart of the accident, 'will not identify', 'the usual Tr afflictions > from FMs', as the cause of the accident. Instead now, the SA was > teaching us that an 'ostensibly beneficial FB' was going to trigger > the accident! This was by far the most unexpected lesson and puts SA > astrologers on guard - asking them to be watchful over even FBs- > whenever these 'ostensibly beneficial FBs' house afflictions in their > MTHs and when ever their sub-periods are running. Dr. Miller must be > thanked for having brought up this enigmatic TSE, for Prof's > comments. This new SA Sutra, may in fact be considered to be one of > the 'gems' that have highlighted in the course of the Conf. > > > > > > > > The Prof also clarified, in reply to a question that natal Ma's > eighth aspect falling exactly on the natal Asdt Lord Ve in the Sign > Scorpio was certainly not a factor at all, in creating this massive > injury-since in the SA, a FB Ma does not create any malefic events > like injuries and accidents.> > > > > > > > Notice the placement of Sa & the MMP Me in the natal chart, as well > as the Tr impact of the sub-period Lord Ju on the Asdt. The Tr chart > on the day of the accident makes sense, only because of the new SA > sutra. As Sa rules bones, joints & structures, and the natal > affliction to Sa, occurs in the IIIH, the Tr impact of Ju on the > Asdt, 'delivered the affliction' on to the IH of the body. > Significantly, this Tr Ju, which functions like a FM Lord, also > influences the 3rd sign Gemini, as well as the MTH of Sa. It must be > noted that this Tr Ju, the dispositor of the affliction in its MTH, > was on the day of the accident in R-motion and approaching its > perfect stationarity. When was later asked, about the > contributory role played by two seemingly important factors-namely > the Tr Asdt Lord Ve in the VIIIH of accidents, just 2 degs close to > the MEP and the stationarity of the 'ostensibly beneficial FB Ju', as > it hovered over the MEP of the Asdt, before 'delivering the > affliction in its MTH, on to the Asdt'; the Prof mentioned that both > these contributory factors were also significant in triggering the > malefic TSE of the accident. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. A Case of police confinement, presented by Sri. Rajesh Hasija> [Case 4]:> > > > > > > > After Dr. Miller's session concluded, Sri. Rajesh Hasija, brought > up the chart of an individual known to him - for recurrent > professional obstacles and for sudden kidnapping and subsequent > confinement in a police station, for the duration of 16 long hrs [ > w.e.f. Noon on 17th Feb '07 till 4.00AM on the 18th]. The chart > [sagittarius Asdt] of this individual appears below [Case 4]. > > > > > > > > Prof Choudhry, identified the root of his recurrent professional > setbacks and his well known vulnerability to cheating & his naivete-> all to the weakness of the Asdt Lord, close affliction of Rahu to > the MEP of the ascendant and to the closely exactly afflicted Me. It > was reported by Rajesh Hasija that he had a dominating mother [MMP > Mo in the IIH of the family], but a wife who was a source of grace in > life [exalted benefic Ve in the IVH]. The Prof identified the > currently occurring stationary nodal affliction to the natal Su as > the immediate triggering factor for penalization by the authorities & > the law. In addition Tr Me also suffered exact affliction by natal > Ke, while the Tr Asdt Lord Ju and the Tr IIIH Lord Sa were in the > malefic XII & the VIII Hs respectively. Prof Choudhry pointed out, > and as also some SA astrologers realized - Tr Ju's exact aspect on > natal Ve & natal Ju's exact aspect on Tr Ve acted as compensatory > blessings in the highly propitious sub-period of the exalted benefic > Ve, thereby giving him easy release from police confinement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Sri Vikaas V Sharma Presentation on the Numerological > Significance of Names[Case 5]: > > > > > > > > The next presentation was by Sri Vikaas Sharma. Though the present > theme of his presentation was not strictly within the framework of > the SA, yet as he used the SA prescriptions for the functional nature > of planets for each Asdt, his numerological work was allowed to be > presented. > > > > > > > > Sri VVS took the charts of people like Shahrukh Khan & some others > and illustrated according to some numerological coding [either the > Chaldean or the Pythagorean] that any given name could be reduced to > a certain resultant number. On the other hand, each planet is also > assigned a certain unique number according to these same > numerological codes and in this way, he arrived at what may be > called, numerologically, ' the ruling planet' for the given > individual. In SK's Case, his name numerologically boiled down to the > number 4, which in his numerological system was identified as the > number for Ra. It must be noted that these numerological assignment > of numbers to planets is very different from the assignment of > numbers in classical Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > Sri Vikaas Sharma explained that whenever 'the number of an > individual', when evaluated in this way, became 'the number of one of > the FM planets' in his chart [according to the SA] then, that will be > the individual for whom, his name will act in a malefic way on his > body-mind; even as the colours of FM planets in his chart will act in > a malefic way on his person. His philosophy of numerology held that > in such cases, the individual may go in for the 'remedial measure' of > changing his name, just as he would change the colour of his clothes, > so as to align himself with the influence of his benefic planetary > energies. He said SK had strong Ra in the XH and this seemed to go > very well with the 'high worldly-drama' that has always surrounded > S. Khan!. In examining such charts of celebrities however, it will be > well to bear in mind the note of caution that Prof Choudhry has often > sounded in the context of such cases - that no one knows the real > accuracy of the birth-details of these celebrities, since for reasons > of privacy, the true birth-time may often be deliberately masked. > Thus, any conclusions drawn from such charts always run the risk of > suffering from such inherent limitations. > > > > > > > > The presentation was for a small sample case studies and could not > be validated.> > > > > > > > Mr. VVS was awarded the Jyotish Visharad certificate by Prof > Choudhry at the conclusion of the Conf, for successfully passing the > SA exam at this level.> > > > > > > > 4. A Case of Cancer [Case 6], by Sri. Rajesh Hasija :> > > > > > > > The second chart that came up for analysis & comments by the Prof > and the SA astrologers, in the post-lunch session on the first day > was put forward also by Sri. Rajesh Hasija. This was an Aquarius Asdt > chart, with the Asdt Lord Sa, deb in the IIIH and further weakened by > the exact aspect of Ra from the VIIH. The Prof pointed out that the > deb of the Su as well as the weakness of the two vitality giving > planets Ma and Su, due to extreme old age-were responsible in paving > the way for the dreaded disease Cancer being diagnosed in 2005. Prof > also drew attention to the distressing situation of the health giving > planet [VIH Lord] Mo suffering a close affliction, thereby > aggravating its bad-placement and old-age weakness in the most > malefic VIIIH. > > > > > > > > [Note: The severity of Ra's affliction to the weak Asdt Lord Sa, in > the natal chart is seen to be aggravated in the Div Chart pertaining > to health, namely the D6, in which, again the deb Sa is badly-placed > in the XIIH and also afflicted by all the 5 FMs of the D6 Taurus Asdt > Div Chart, with not even a single redeeming beneficial aspect sending > its healing rays on to that already sapped Sa.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri. Pradeep Sethi's Case 7 - A chart with serious health > concerns:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the evening-session after the Tea-break on the first day, this > unusual chart was brought up for analysis by the Prof & for general > discussion by a professional SA astrologer, Sri. Predeep Sethi.> > > > > > > > He and his wife, Ms. Anju Sethi were unique in the SA circle, in > that, both were professional SA -astrologers. Ms. Anju Sethi, as I > learnt, was currently working on the Hindi translation of one of > 's works on the SA.> > > > > > > > Sri P. Sethi said that this lady had serious digestion troubles and > recurrent head-aches. Prof commenting on the chart said, the exact > nodal affliction to Me, the VIH Lord [governing health], and > simultaneous afflictions to Ju and Ve will "make way for many health > problems". It may be remembered that in the SA, the VIH rules the > lower abdomen, kidneys, intestinal function and as Me also happens to > be the significator of the VIH, the severity of the affliction got > compounded. The pertinent remark of the Prof was that as the Asdt > Lord Ma was relatively strong, in its exaltation sign [ nearly 2degs > in the periphery of its combustion range], these recurrent health-> problems were bound to be there, but that they were not severe enough > to take the life of the lady in question.> > > > > > > > One got a glimpse of the blind-superstitious beliefs into which > Vedic Astrology had descended, when the Prof made an anecdotal > reference to one such Vedic Astrological myth, that pertained to one > of the days close to the DOB of the lady in question. It was alleged > by some Vedic astrologers in India that on that day, some 'great > calamity was going to befall the land' and that people at that > appointed hour were even getting ready to rush out of their houses in > panic, just to escape the misfortune of the 'Heavens falling down on > their heads'! Apparently, nothing of that sort happened, when that > appointed hour arrived! For as the Prof pointed out, that was not a > particularly inauspicious time, by SA reckoning. > > > > > > > > 6. Case of 'blindness at birth'-by Col B. K. Kailash[Case 7]:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strangely, the younger sister was also blind by birth. The Col, who > had developed a passion for astrology and Pranic Healing, after 35 > yrs of service in the Indian Army, had now taken to the SA and in a > short and moving tribute he paid to the Prof, he said: "There are > many Masters and is certainly one of them."> > > > > > > > Sri Kailashji asked how the SA makes allowance for the occurrence > for blindness at birth, in the above chart. Birth occurred in the > month of Jul 1969. Prof Choudhry's remarks were the following. He > said Ve gives vision and even though the birth occurred in the > auspicious sub-period of Mo-Me, the bad placement of both the dasa as > well as the bhukti Lords, become a contributory factor in the first > place. Then, referring to the exact affliction to Ve from Ke, the > Prof said that "whenever there is an exact affliction, problems > surface in the first decade of life." > > > > > > > > Pradeep Sethi clarified a Q from me to the effect that in the SA, > Ve signify the lenses of the eyes. When I asked Sri. Kailashji, how > it was ever discovered that the baby was blind at birth; Prof > Choudhry immediately examined the nodal affliction in the natal chart > a couple of months after birth to ascertain the TSE that was probably > crucial in causing blindness. > > > > > > > > When the Prof was asked later whether the deb of Me in the D-6 > chart & its affliction therein; and the affliction to Ve as well as > to its MTH [iIH] therein; were not also contributory factors in the > creation of blindness, he answered in the affirmative.> > > > > > > > Sec 7: A Case of suspected blood cancer - fears allayed > > > > [Case 8]:> > > > > > > > In the context of clarifying the case of congenital blindness, Prof > Choudhry touched on another case pertaining to medical astrology. An > individual who was admitted to a famous hospital in Mumbai, one day > called up the Prof in a state of panic, declaring that he has been > diagnosed as having cancer. For his part, the Prof, after examining > his chart and finding no SA support for 'the theory of cancer > diagnosis', immediately found that currently the individual was under > a Tr nodal affliction. He therefore spontaneously reassured > the 'hospital patient' that it was not a dreadful cancer which was > plaguing him, but only a karmic retribution in the form of a > currently prevailing nodal affliction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reassuring message from Prof Choudhry had its remarkable > healing effect on the patient, quite independent of the impact of the > Remedial Measures, which were enjoined by the Prof and which were to > follow this initial healing through the telephonic assurance. Thus > emboldened, the patient came to his own defence [!] when he gently > took up his case with the hospital doctors. He was discharged in Jun > 2005 and was feeling absolutely fine after one & half years. He > called on the Prof, in July, 2005. Summarizing the case, the Prof > recapitulated a Sutra by now familiar to all SA astrologers: " > Sometimes clinical reports will be wrong when the nodes are Tr, > stationary & also afflicting." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. A Yogi's Chart - seen through the SA light [Case 9]:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart of a yogi [born 1957] was brought up in the Conf during > the last session on the first day. The SA astrologer [sri Vikaas > Vansh Sharma] who brought it up had known the yogi personally and > could vouch for his Siddhis [miraculous spiritual powers], like the > suspension of breath, etc. > > > > > > > > This was a very important session for spiritual astrologers, as the > Prof started throwing light on the lives of yogis and some spiritual > leaders, who unfortunately had the influence of Ra in their natal > charts, which had given their spiritual work a strong tilt into Ra's > sphere of deception & cheating. In support of his profound insight > into the patterns of deception in the spiritual spheres, the Prof > remarked that: " If today, we find many spiritual leaders under Ra's > influence, this is because of a certain curse which was given to > brahmin spiritual leaders in times past, that they will survive in > Kali Yuga only by deception & cheating". > > > > > > > > In the chart of the yogi in Q, attention was drawn to Ra's exact > affliction on the IXH Lord, the Su as an important malefic influence > destroying the spiritual significations of the Su as well as the > IXH. When Sri VVS brought up the Q of the yogi's Siddhis as possible > proof of his spiritual bonafides, the Prof was quick to come to the > truth, which most lay people are completely unaware of: " They can > have Siddhis to fool the people for sometime, but finally they will > be exposed."> > > > > > > > Some 15 yrs ago [as I learnt after the Conf], the Prof was shown > the chart of a Greek spiritual master, whereupon he did not mince any > words in saying, what he felt to be the truth: " She will have a > short life span and will also have B.P. problems." And this Greek > master, we were told was also a divorcee. > > > > > > > > On the second & concluding day of the Conf, the Prof shared another > interesting chart of a genuine spiritual Master, whom he had known > personally in his life. On the following day the Conf continued with > the same intensity and vigour and I'll cover these Proceedings in the > 3rd Part which I'll get ready in a day or two.> > > > > > > > 9. Conclusion of Part - 2 of the Proceedings:> > > > > > > > I sincerely thank Prof Choudhry for his patience & time and for the > responsibility he has given me in summarizing the Conf Proceedings. > He has clarified a number of my Qs on the Conf sessions even as > lately as this morning. I am very thankful to all the SA astrologers > who answered my Qs at the Conf and made the whole Conf a joyous > learning experience. I am most beholden to Sri Rajesh Chaudhary, for > the silent and selfless service he rendered to us all, thereby making > the Conf a very pleasant and memorable event. Thanks are also due to > Sri Kannanji for his excellent assistance in the preparation of the > PPP, as well as in getting Parts 2 & 3 of the Proceedings ready.> > > > > > > > I wish to also submit that any omissions, distortions & errors in > my summary are due to my own inadvertence and I therefore request all > members of the SA community to condone these possible failings.> > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > Sankara Bhagavadpada.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > amit_patnaik6 > > > > Friday, March 02, 2007 10:01 PM> > Re: IIPA INTL CONF-II-PARTt-2> > > > > > > > Dear Dr Sankara, > > > > Due to some reason I dont see the attachment in the post, is > there > > anyway you can email it to me or maybe add it to the Files > section of > > the list.> > > > Best Regards> > Amit> > > > , "SANKARA BHAGAVADPADA" > <sankara@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prof.V.K.Choudhry and SA astrologers,> > > > > > Namasthe. Please find attached Part-2 of the Proceedings of the > IIPA > > Intl Conf-II.I hope, for those of us, who have missed this Conf, > this > > summary of the Proceedings, will bring some satisfaction-even > though, > > this can never compare with the actual particpation in the Conf, > in the > > august presence of Prof.Choudhry.> > > > > > Best Regards> > > Sankara Bhagavadpada> > >> >>