Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 dear amit.... good points you bring out. we may also consider the transit of rahu and ketu at the time of the suicide were also close to the Most Effective Point, which would have an impact on the first, third, fifth, seventh, ninth, and eleventh houses. best wishes, david hawthorne - amit_patnaik6 Monday, February 26, 2007 10:57 AM A Suicide Chart Regards Amit July 14th 1990, 5:22PM, 85E50, 20N30 DST=0, TimeZone= -5:30 (India) Incident: Aug 5th 2004 between (1:30 AM- 4:00 AM), the young girl commited suicide. The native was in the period of Me/Ju/Sa (10th/1st/3rd), all are functional benefics. The prime determinant of Longevity Jupiter is placed in an angle aspected by weak signifactor of longevity Saturn from the 1st. Jupiter is in old age and closely combust rendering it weak and exposed to transit influences. The General Signifactor Saturn is well placed in the Lagna but weak due to old age and dispositor. The 8th house is crucial in this chart, 8th lord MMP Moon is well placed but afflicts the 4th and 10th house, is debilated in D9 and afflicted by Ketu from the 8th house natally. In addition Ketu is closely conjunct the 8th house MEP. The Signifactors for emotional health 1st is weak, 5th is strong but Moon and Mercury weak and badly placed and afflicted. The Nodes influence all the even house closely. Ketu from the 8th on 4th and 12th is especially troubling All such influence is detrimental for longevity and a natal promise for Mishaps early in life especially the confluence and influence of Moon, 8th house , Mercury and Ketu in the natal chart closely impacting each other. The transits, SA does not include Pratyantar Dasha so we will stick to MD/AD which is Me/Ju. (Karma, Childhood, Nerves and Emotions, death/ longevity. State of health etc). In the transit chart Mercury and Jupiter are well placed in a trine but their dispositor Sun is badly placed in the 8th , note Jupiter is closely combust Sun natally and in transit Sun in the 8th disposits Jupiter this is telling on the native since it is AD of Jupiter. MD lord Mercury is also disposited by Sun in the 8th and afflicted by Rahu from the 5th of emotions.[ Note MMP afflicts MT of Mercury and is activated in its MD, when co-joined with 1st lord Jupiter tells on longevity] The general signifactor Saturn is triggered in transit as it is closely influenced by natal Jupiter. Saturn is also prime signifactor for Initatives. [ Note in D8 Sun, Jupiter and Saturn are together], since it is natally weak it does not protect enough in transit to offset the other negative influences. On the day of the incident MMP Moon was afflicting natal Moon and also activating the natal positions and aspects, the time of incident was between 1:30 AM- 4 AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Dear David, That is quite right,thanks for bringing it up. It was an oversight. Regards Amit , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > dear amit.... > > good points you bring out. > > we may also consider the transit of rahu and ketu at the time of the suicide were also close to the Most Effective Point, which would have an impact on the first, third, fifth, seventh, ninth, and eleventh houses. > > best wishes, > > david hawthorne > > > - > amit_patnaik6 > > Monday, February 26, 2007 10:57 AM > A Suicide Chart > > > > Regards > > Amit > > July 14th 1990, 5:22PM, 85E50, 20N30 DST=0, TimeZone= -5:30 (India) > > > > Incident: Aug 5th 2004 between (1:30 AM- 4:00 AM), the young girl > commited suicide. > > > > > > The native was in the period of Me/Ju/Sa (10th/1st/3rd), all are > functional benefics. > > > > The prime determinant of Longevity Jupiter is placed in an angle > aspected by weak signifactor of longevity Saturn from the 1st. Jupiter > is in old age and closely combust rendering it weak and exposed to > transit influences. > > The General Signifactor Saturn is well placed in the Lagna but weak due > to old age and dispositor. > > The 8th house is crucial in this chart, 8th lord MMP Moon is well placed > but afflicts the 4th and 10th house, is debilated in D9 and afflicted by > Ketu from the 8th house natally. In addition Ketu is closely conjunct > the 8th house MEP. > > The Signifactors for emotional health 1st is weak, 5th is strong but > Moon and Mercury weak and badly placed and afflicted. > > The Nodes influence all the even house closely. Ketu from the 8th on 4th > and 12th is especially troubling > > All such influence is detrimental for longevity and a natal promise for > Mishaps early in life especially the confluence and influence of Moon, > 8th house , Mercury and Ketu in the natal chart closely impacting each > other. > > The transits, SA does not include Pratyantar Dasha so we will stick to > MD/AD which is > > Me/Ju. (Karma, Childhood, Nerves and Emotions, death/ longevity. State > of health etc). > > > > In the transit chart Mercury and Jupiter are well placed in a trine but > their dispositor Sun is badly placed in the 8th , note Jupiter is > closely combust Sun natally and in transit Sun in the 8th disposits > Jupiter this is telling on the native since it is AD of Jupiter. MD lord > Mercury is also disposited by Sun in the 8th and afflicted by Rahu from > the 5th of emotions.[ Note MMP afflicts MT of Mercury and is activated > in its MD, when co-joined with 1st lord Jupiter tells on longevity] > > The general signifactor Saturn is triggered in transit as it is closely > influenced by natal Jupiter. Saturn is also prime signifactor for > Initatives. [ Note in D8 Sun, Jupiter and Saturn are together], since it > is natally weak it does not protect enough in transit to offset the > other negative influences. > > On the day of the incident MMP Moon was afflicting natal Moon and also > activating the natal positions and aspects, the time of incident was > between 1:30 AM- 4 AM. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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