Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hello Dear Professor, In the explanation below during the sub period of Venus would it 1. Convey the general significance of Jupiter or even particular? 2. What timings can be expected for the promotion of the same ?, I:e during Venus Sub, will the good natal impact of Jupiter be felt when the Sub Period lord is making MEP and Planetary contacts in transit and itself is in strength or is it some other combinations? Please opine. Respect Amit , <siha wrote: > > > Hello Venu, > > Suppose Leo is the ascendant and on the MEP of the third house containing MT > sign of Venus, Jupiter is placed. During the sub period of Venus the good > impact of Jupiter would also be felt depending upon its strength. > > Non MT sign houses have their own significations which will not suffer due > to the weakness and affliction of the concerned MT sign lord. But if the > house is afflicted the significations of the house will suffer and if the > house has good influence the significations of the house will get promoted > as per the strength of the influence. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Venugopal.V " venuvenkat > > Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:40 PM > Re: Re: Confusion > > > | Hello Prof, > | > | Some queries based on your reply below, > | > | The FB away from MEP producing results for its significations and FB in > MEP of non-MT producing results for itself and aspecting houses is clear. > | > | But in the case of MT Sign and FB in MEP, I'm not clear how lord of sign > also conveys the influence of the FB. Can you give an example. > | > | One other query I have is I'm trying to come with a table for reference on > how to read the non-MT significations for each ascendant like > | > | Aries - 2H - ? , 3H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? > | Taurus - 1H - ?, 2H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ? > | Gemini - 1H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? > | Cancer - 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ?, 12H - ? > | Leo - 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 11H - ? > | Virgo - 3H - ?, 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 10H - ? > | Libra - 2H - ? , 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 9H - ? > | > | and similarly for the rest. > | > | If we have this, it will help a lot in analyzing charts, as we can go > house by house, see the lords, and if no lord see this table for the > particular asdt and seperately look at the general signifactors. > | > | Regards, > | Venu > | > | > | > | > | On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha wrote : > | > > | >Hello Ji, > | > > | >When a well placed functional benefic is away from MEP, it produces > results > | >for its own significations - both general and particular. > | > > | >When a well placed functional benefic is on MEP or close to MEP, it > produces > | >results for its own significations and for the house of its placement and > | >the houses aspected. > | > > | >When a well placed functional benefic is close to MEP and is in a MT sign > | >then besides producing results for its own significations, houses > occupied > | >and aspected the MT sign lord of the house also conveys the influence of > | >this FB planet. > | > > | >Hope it gives you better understanding. > | > > | >Best wishes, > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | >- > | > " ji_sahib " ji_sahib > | > > | >Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:49 AM > | > Confusion > | > > | > > | >| > | >| Dear Professor , > | >| > | >| Well Placed Functional Befnafic Planet will produce same results in > | >| both situations ... > | >| > | >| (1) When it is conjunct with MEP of house of Placement? > | >| > | >| (2) When It is far away from MEP of house of Placement? > | >| > | >| (3) In above example if house of placement of this Planet is a > | >| mooltrikona sign will produce different results, compare to non_ > | >| mooltrikona sign? > | >| > | >| Thanks > | >| > | >| > | >| > | >| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hello dear Amit, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6 Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:19 PM Re: Impact of planets on MEP of MT sign houses | | | | Hello Dear Professor, | | In the explanation below during the sub period of Venus would it | | 1. Convey the general significance of Jupiter or even particular? PARTICULAR MORE AND GENERAL TO SOME EXTENT. | | 2. What timings can be expected for the promotion of the same ?, I:e | during Venus Sub, will the good natal impact of Jupiter be felt when the | Sub Period lord is making MEP and Planetary contacts in transit and | itself is in strength or is it some other combinations? THROUGH OUT THE SUB PERIOD WHEN VENUS AND JUPITER ARE STRONG OR AT LEAST WELL PLACED IN TRANSIT. | | Please opine. | | Respect | | Amit | | | , <siha wrote: | > | > | > Hello Venu, | > | > Suppose Leo is the ascendant and on the MEP of the third house | containing MT | > sign of Venus, Jupiter is placed. During the sub period of Venus the | good | > impact of Jupiter would also be felt depending upon its strength. | > | > Non MT sign houses have their own significations which will not suffer | due | > to the weakness and affliction of the concerned MT sign lord. But if | the | > house is afflicted the significations of the house will suffer and if | the | > house has good influence the significations of the house will get | promoted | > as per the strength of the influence. | > | > Best wishes, | > | > | > | > | > - | > " Venugopal.V " venuvenkat | > | > Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:40 PM | > Re: Re: Confusion | > | > | > | Hello Prof, | > | | > | Some queries based on your reply below, | > | | > | The FB away from MEP producing results for its significations and FB | in | > MEP of non-MT producing results for itself and aspecting houses is | clear. | > | | > | But in the case of MT Sign and FB in MEP, I'm not clear how lord of | sign | > also conveys the influence of the FB. Can you give an example. | > | | > | One other query I have is I'm trying to come with a table for | reference on | > how to read the non-MT significations for each ascendant like | > | | > | Aries - 2H - ? , 3H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? | > | Taurus - 1H - ?, 2H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ? | > | Gemini - 1H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? | > | Cancer - 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ?, 12H - ? | > | Leo - 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 11H - ? | > | Virgo - 3H - ?, 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 10H - ? | > | Libra - 2H - ? , 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 9H - ? | > | | > | and similarly for the rest. | > | | > | If we have this, it will help a lot in analyzing charts, as we can | go | > house by house, see the lords, and if no lord see this table for the | > particular asdt and seperately look at the general signifactors. | > | | > | Regards, | > | Venu | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha wrote : | > | > | > | >Hello Ji, | > | > | > | >When a well placed functional benefic is away from MEP, it produces | > results | > | >for its own significations - both general and particular. | > | > | > | >When a well placed functional benefic is on MEP or close to MEP, it | > produces | > | >results for its own significations and for the house of its | placement and | > | >the houses aspected. | > | > | > | >When a well placed functional benefic is close to MEP and is in a | MT sign | > | >then besides producing results for its own significations, houses | > occupied | > | >and aspected the MT sign lord of the house also conveys the | influence of | > | >this FB planet. | > | > | > | >Hope it gives you better understanding. | > | > | > | >Best wishes, | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >- | > | > " ji_sahib " ji_sahib | > | > | > | >Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:49 AM | > | > Confusion | > | > | > | > | > | >| | > | >| Dear Professor , | > | >| | > | >| Well Placed Functional Befnafic Planet will produce same results | in | > | >| both situations ... | > | >| | > | >| (1) When it is conjunct with MEP of house of Placement? | > | >| | > | >| (2) When It is far away from MEP of house of Placement? | > | >| | > | >| (3) In above example if house of placement of this Planet is a | > | >| mooltrikona sign will produce different results, compare to non_ | > | >| mooltrikona sign? | > | >| | > | >| Thanks | > | >| | > | >| | > | >| | > | >| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hello Prof, Thanks a lot for the response. Can we say in NON-MT case, if a FB planet is in MEP and well placed, then it infact acts as the Lord of that house and houses it aspects ? Regards, Venu On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha wrote : > >Hello Venu, > >Suppose Leo is the ascendant and on the MEP of the third house containing MT >sign of Venus, Jupiter is placed. During the sub period of Venus the good >impact of Jupiter would also be felt depending upon its strength. > >Non MT sign houses have their own significations which will not suffer due >to the weakness and affliction of the concerned MT sign lord. But if the >house is afflicted the significations of the house will suffer and if the >house has good influence the significations of the house will get promoted >as per the strength of the influence. > >Best wishes, > > > > >- > " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat > >Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:40 PM >Re: Re: Confusion > > >| Hello Prof, >| >| Some queries based on your reply below, >| >| The FB away from MEP producing results for its significations and FB in >MEP of non-MT producing results for itself and aspecting houses is clear. >| >| But in the case of MT Sign and FB in MEP, I'm not clear how lord of sign >also conveys the influence of the FB. Can you give an example. >| >| One other query I have is I'm trying to come with a table for reference on >how to read the non-MT significations for each ascendant like >| >| Aries - 2H - ? , 3H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? >| Taurus - 1H - ?, 2H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ? >| Gemini - 1H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? >| Cancer - 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ?, 12H - ? >| Leo - 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 11H - ? >| Virgo - 3H - ?, 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 10H - ? >| Libra - 2H - ? , 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 9H - ? >| >| and similarly for the rest. >| >| If we have this, it will help a lot in analyzing charts, as we can go >house by house, see the lords, and if no lord see this table for the >particular asdt and seperately look at the general signifactors. >| >| Regards, >| Venu >| >| >| >| >| On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha wrote : >| > >| >Hello Ji, >| > >| >When a well placed functional benefic is away from MEP, it produces >results >| >for its own significations - both general and particular. >| > >| >When a well placed functional benefic is on MEP or close to MEP, it >produces >| >results for its own significations and for the house of its placement and >| >the houses aspected. >| > >| >When a well placed functional benefic is close to MEP and is in a MT sign >| >then besides producing results for its own significations, houses >occupied >| >and aspected the MT sign lord of the house also conveys the influence of >| >this FB planet. >| > >| >Hope it gives you better understanding. >| > >| >Best wishes, >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| >- >| > " ji_sahib " <ji_sahib >| > >| >Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:49 AM >| > Confusion >| > >| > >| >| >| >| Dear Professor , >| >| >| >| Well Placed Functional Befnafic Planet will produce same results in >| >| both situations ... >| >| >| >| (1) When it is conjunct with MEP of house of Placement? >| >| >| >| (2) When It is far away from MEP of house of Placement? >| >| >| >| (3) In above example if house of placement of this Planet is a >| >| mooltrikona sign will produce different results, compare to non_ >| >| mooltrikona sign? >| >| >| >| Thanks >| >| >| >| >| >| >| >| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hello Venu, Try to follow what is told. Stretching the meaning creates problems. Best wishes, - " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat Friday, February 16, 2007 12:02 PM Re: Re: Re: Impact of planets on MEP of MT sign houses | Hello Prof, | | Thanks a lot for the response. | Can we say in NON-MT case, if a FB planet is in MEP and well placed, | then it infact acts as the Lord of that house and houses it aspects ? | | Regards, | Venu | | | On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha wrote : | > | >Hello Venu, | > | >Suppose Leo is the ascendant and on the MEP of the third house containing MT | >sign of Venus, Jupiter is placed. During the sub period of Venus the good | >impact of Jupiter would also be felt depending upon its strength. | > | >Non MT sign houses have their own significations which will not suffer due | >to the weakness and affliction of the concerned MT sign lord. But if the | >house is afflicted the significations of the house will suffer and if the | >house has good influence the significations of the house will get promoted | >as per the strength of the influence. | > | >Best wishes, | > | > | > | > | >- | > " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat | > | >Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:40 PM | >Re: Re: Confusion | > | > | >| Hello Prof, | >| | >| Some queries based on your reply below, | >| | >| The FB away from MEP producing results for its significations and FB in | >MEP of non-MT producing results for itself and aspecting houses is clear. | >| | >| But in the case of MT Sign and FB in MEP, I'm not clear how lord of sign | >also conveys the influence of the FB. Can you give an example. | >| | >| One other query I have is I'm trying to come with a table for reference on | >how to read the non-MT significations for each ascendant like | >| | >| Aries - 2H - ? , 3H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? | >| Taurus - 1H - ?, 2H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ? | >| Gemini - 1H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - ? | >| Cancer - 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ?, 12H - ? | >| Leo - 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 11H - ? | >| Virgo - 3H - ?, 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 10H - ? | >| Libra - 2H - ? , 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 9H - ? | >| | >| and similarly for the rest. | >| | >| If we have this, it will help a lot in analyzing charts, as we can go | >house by house, see the lords, and if no lord see this table for the | >particular asdt and seperately look at the general signifactors. | >| | >| Regards, | >| Venu | >| | >| | >| | >| | >| On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha wrote : | >| > | >| >Hello Ji, | >| > | >| >When a well placed functional benefic is away from MEP, it produces | >results | >| >for its own significations - both general and particular. | >| > | >| >When a well placed functional benefic is on MEP or close to MEP, it | >produces | >| >results for its own significations and for the house of its placement and | >| >the houses aspected. | >| > | >| >When a well placed functional benefic is close to MEP and is in a MT sign | >| >then besides producing results for its own significations, houses | >occupied | >| >and aspected the MT sign lord of the house also conveys the influence of | >| >this FB planet. | >| > | >| >Hope it gives you better understanding. | >| > | >| >Best wishes, | >| > | >| > | >| > | >| > | >| > | >| >- | >| > " ji_sahib " <ji_sahib | >| > | >| >Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:49 AM | >| > Confusion | >| > | >| > | >| >| | >| >| Dear Professor , | >| >| | >| >| Well Placed Functional Befnafic Planet will produce same results in | >| >| both situations ... | >| >| | >| >| (1) When it is conjunct with MEP of house of Placement? | >| >| | >| >| (2) When It is far away from MEP of house of Placement? | >| >| | >| >| (3) In above example if house of placement of this Planet is a | >| >| mooltrikona sign will produce different results, compare to non_ | >| >| mooltrikona sign? | >| >| | >| >| Thanks | >| >| | >| >| | >| >| | >| >| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Dear Venu, Non MT house does not have ownership. But it does not mean that it does not have signification . If Pisces falls as 10th house , Jup is not 10th lord but Pisces still remains 10th house. A planet in a MT sign has a dispositor ..Planet in a Non MT sign does not have dispositor .. If a FB is in Non MT like Sat for Gemini Lagni is in Pisces then 9th lord is in 10th house . 10th house sign will improve. FB in MEP in any house will benefit that house. If in MT sign then all planet connected with MT sign will come into effect during its subdasa . Eg : Jup and Venus as mentioned by Prof Best wishes Sadasivan Hello Venu, > > Try to follow what is told. Stretching the meaning > creates problems. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > - > " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat > > Friday, February 16, 2007 12:02 PM > Re: Re: Re: Impact of planets on > MEP of MT sign houses > > > | Hello Prof, > | > | Thanks a lot for the response. > | Can we say in NON-MT case, if a FB planet is in > MEP and well placed, > | then it infact acts as the Lord of that house and > houses it aspects ? > | > | Regards, > | Venu > | > | > | On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha > wrote : > | > > | >Hello Venu, > | > > | >Suppose Leo is the ascendant and on the MEP of > the third house containing > MT > | >sign of Venus, Jupiter is placed. During the sub > period of Venus the > good > | >impact of Jupiter would also be felt depending > upon its strength. > | > > | >Non MT sign houses have their own significations > which will not suffer > due > | >to the weakness and affliction of the concerned > MT sign lord. But if the > | >house is afflicted the significations of the > house will suffer and if the > | >house has good influence the significations of > the house will get > promoted > | >as per the strength of the influence. > | > > | >Best wishes, > | > > | > > | > > | > > | >- > | > " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat > | > > | >Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:40 PM > | >Re: Re: Confusion > | > > | > > | >| Hello Prof, > | >| > | >| Some queries based on your reply below, > | >| > | >| The FB away from MEP producing results for its > significations and FB in > | >MEP of non-MT producing results for itself and > aspecting houses is clear. > | >| > | >| But in the case of MT Sign and FB in MEP, I'm > not clear how lord of > sign > | >also conveys the influence of the FB. Can you > give an example. > | >| > | >| One other query I have is I'm trying to come > with a table for reference > on > | >how to read the non-MT significations for each > ascendant like > | >| > | >| Aries - 2H - ? , 3H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - > ? > | >| Taurus - 1H - ?, 2H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - > ? > | >| Gemini - 1H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 12H - > ? > | >| Cancer - 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 11H - ?, 12H - > ? > | >| Leo - 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 10H - ?, 11H - ? > | >| Virgo - 3H - ?, 5H - ?, 7H - ?, 9H - ?, 10H - ? > | >| Libra - 2H - ? , 4H - ?, 6H - ?, 8H - ?, 9H - ? > | >| > | >| and similarly for the rest. > | >| > | >| If we have this, it will help a lot in > analyzing charts, as we can go > | >house by house, see the lords, and if no lord see > this table for the > | >particular asdt and seperately look at the > general signifactors. > | >| > | >| Regards, > | >| Venu > | >| > | >| > | >| > | >| > | >| On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 siha > wrote : > | >| > > | >| >Hello Ji, > | >| > > | >| >When a well placed functional benefic is away > from MEP, it produces > | >results > | >| >for its own significations - both general and > particular. > | >| > > | >| >When a well placed functional benefic is on > MEP or close to MEP, it > | >produces > | >| >results for its own significations and for the > house of its placement > and > | >| >the houses aspected. > | >| > > | >| >When a well placed functional benefic is close > to MEP and is in a MT > sign > | >| >then besides producing results for its own > significations, houses > | >occupied > | >| >and aspected the MT sign lord of the house > also conveys the influence > of > | >| >this FB planet. > | >| > > | >| >Hope it gives you better understanding. > | >| > > | >| >Best wishes, > | >| > > | >| > > | >| > > | >| > > | >| > > | >| >- > | >| > " ji_sahib " <ji_sahib > | >| > > | >| >Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:49 AM > | >| > Confusion > | >| > > | >| > > | >| >| > | >| >| Dear Professor , > | >| >| > | >| >| Well Placed Functional Befnafic Planet will > produce same results > in > | >| >| both situations ... > | >| >| > | >| >| (1) When it is conjunct with MEP of house > of Placement? > | >| >| > | >| >| (2) When It is far away from MEP of house > of Placement? > | >| >| > | >| >| (3) In above example if house of placement > of this Planet is a > | >| >| mooltrikona sign will produce different > results, compare to non_ > | >| >| mooltrikona sign? > | >| >| > | >| >| Thanks > | >| >| > | >| >| > | >| >| > | >| >| [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > | >| >| > | >| >| > | >| >| > | >| >| > | >| >| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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