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Professor,

 

As a student who delve in sidereal astrology, I now know functional benefics

and malefics, planets strength, as defined in SA is " correct " . Well I should

say " sound " . The reason why I ask about Phaladipika had to do with these two

core definitions of SA, functional benefics/malefics (I used them

extensively in tropical's Morin de Villefranche techniques) and stength of

planets. It is so hard to understand the latter and classics (either in

tropical in jyotish) mixed these with " affliction " (a weak planet being most

of time " afflicted " ). It is sad students of SA still dont understand this

core truth of SA...

 

Actually, in my (newly undertaken) study of SA, what stands is obviously

this: strength and weaknesses of planets, functional benefics and malefics,

and major significators as defined in the list you provided in the link to

your website earlier (<http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/signi.htm>).

It is sound and answers many questions we, as students may have.

 

So, I would like to understand (direct me to printed material or any page to

your website, if needed), what is the precedence of significators in SA? The

list you provided is not " complete " although it covers major aspects of our

lifes. So if one need to find a " new " significator, not listed, how does he

work his list?

 

Thank you for your time, your patience and involvement!

 

--

With my best of regards!

François

 

siha wrote:

> Hello Mr. Raj,

>

> I am to the scene much later in 1985 and had no access to the

> magazines of 1970s.

 

======> By th way: it comforting to read SAGAR introduction to " System

Approach for Interpreting Horoscopes, ed 2002.

 

>

> The main point which gave birth to SA was the functional nature of

> planets.

>

> Good things in life are achieved if it is destined.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> -

> " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

>

> Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:06 AM

> Re: Phaladipika

>

>

> Dear S.G.

>

> If you try to apply dicta of Bhavarth Ratnakar or any other classics

> without considering the strength and placement of planets you will

> not achieve success. Jupiter in Taurus ascendent for example would

> give good results only if strong and not afflicting any planet or

> house, as correctly pointed out in SA. Neechbhanga Raj yoga is

> definitely not consistent and good results obtained sometimes can be

> explained through other concepts. Although Saturn is debilitated for

> 2.5 years, it strength varies depending upon the strength of its

> dispositor, and on times it may be aspected by strong functional

> benefics. You always have to apply complete system, not just one

> concept in isolation.

>

> The authors of articles I pointed out in AM were S.K.Singhania,

> V.K.Jain, and Suryanarain Rao etc. I will give you more detailed list

> tomorrow if you wish.

>

> I agree with you that for the progress of a science, ideas should flow

> freely. At the same times everybody should be acknowledged for his

> ideas or work. B.V.Raman started the magazine where different people

> could share their theories. He should be appreciated for that. Iyer

> and Krishnamurthy were first to challenge the classics, although the

> techniques they put forward were complicated and very different from

> the classical principles. SA on the other hand is much more based on

> classicals and is very simple and universally applicable. Therefore I

> believe this has a great future, especially because Prof Chaudhury is

> putting great effort in explaining his point of view. As with any

> science, it also has a room to improve.

>

> I think there is no use in talking to ICAS. If VKC could not convince

> them how can you?

>

> Thanks

>

> RAJ K. CHADHA

>

> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote:

> Dear Raj ji ,

>

> I also replied to Alcho in a similar way only.

>

> Any how thanks . I will go thru the sources

> immediately . Bhavaratnakara by Dr B.V Raman

> (Translation of Ramanujam )says that for Aquaris

> Lagna , Venus and Mars will not confer Rajayoga.

> B.V Raman has said he failed to understand that

> . As per SA, Mars is not the 10th lord .

> Ramanujam has said that for Aries Lagna ,

> Saturn and Jup combo will not confer Rajayoga . As

> per SA , Saturn is not the 10th lord.

>

> But Ramanjuman has said that for Taurus Lagna

> , Mercury and Jup will confer wealth . Jupiter

> is the 11th lord and Mercury the 2nd lord.

> There he is not taking MT .

>

> Any how, if you could tell me who wrote the

> article in Astrological Magazine , It will help m

> e in taking up with ICAS Members at Chennai as

> currently what I face from them are on the

> following grounds

>

> 1) ICAS will follow B.V Raman's teachings only .

>

> 2) There is no emphasis on M.T . No doubt that

> M.T is th important house but other house's

> role will come into effect .

>

> 3) Never underestimate debilitated planets .

> People with 2 or 3 deb planets have suceeded .

> Neechabhanga Rajayoga applies.

>

> Raj ji , Saturn is debilitated for 2 1/2 yeas

> and Jup for 1 year . To say that for these

> periods MT lords(Sat and Jup) for various lagnas

> will suffer is slightly unpalatable only . ie why

> I repeatedly asked the question

>

> " IF THE DEB PLANET IS YOUNG AND WELL PLACED ,

> IS THERE BHANGA ?

> Do not misunderstand that I am opposing the SA

> priniple of DEB Planets . Learning canot happen

> without free flow of ideas.

>

> Thanks and reg

>

> SG.

> --- Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

>

>> SG and Alchocoden:

>>

>> There a large number of Yogas and dicta in Classical

>> Astrology. If you use them you can take a puper's

>> chart and show that it belongs to a king, and vice

>> versa. The credit has to go to Prof Chaudhury for

>> picking up a few gems among them while discarding

>> the rest, and weaving them into a cohesive and

>> reproducible system that anybody like you and me can

>> use successfully.

>>

>> However, if you still want to see the source of

>> those gems, look into the following:

>> Phaladeepika: Shloka 8.35 (for MEP concept), 15.11,

>> 15.13, 15.17 and 15.19 (for priortising MT signs).

>> Astrological magazine: Year 1970, page 495 (for

>> Rahu/Ketu), 769 (for orb of 5 degrees). Year 1971,

>> page 708 (for dispositor concept) and page 939 (for

>> importance of Bhukti lord).

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> RAJ K. CHADHA

>>

>> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g

>> wrote: Dear

>> Alchocoden ,

>>

>> Can you quote those 2 verses . I dont think so

>>

>> that that would have influenced our Professor.

>> To

>> come out with a system only research would

>> have helped him .

>>

>> SG.

>> --- ALCHOCODEN <alchocoden wrote:

>>

>> > Hello Professor,

>> >

>> > Actually I am reading a booklet from Denis

>> Labouré

>> > who cites two verses from

>> > Phaladipika (chap 15, verses 1 and 6) and base

>> > delineation on these. Can we

>> > say that this book influenced in some way your

>> > Systems Approach synthesis? I

>> > think I see some common links with SA here.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Best regards,

>> > François

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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>>

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>>

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>>

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Hello Francois,

 

You have to understand that for identifying significators for any aspect of

life one has to see the house, the planet ruling the house and the planet

which is general significator for that aspect of life. So, you have to

return to the basics. Read about planets and houses.

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/b11.htm

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/b13.htm

 

Then on the website you may read about how to identify the aspect of

marriage, profession, health, etc. and the related case studies.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

www.YourNetAstrologer.com

www.JyotishRemedies121.com

A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India)

Phones: 91 124 - 2219240

Mobile 98110 16333

 

-

" Francois CARRIERE " <alchocoden

 

Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:26 AM

Re: Phaladipika and significators precedence

 

 

> Professor,

>

> As a student who delve in sidereal astrology, I now know functional

> benefics

> and malefics, planets strength, as defined in SA is " correct " . Well I

> should

> say " sound " . The reason why I ask about Phaladipika had to do with these

> two

> core definitions of SA, functional benefics/malefics (I used them

> extensively in tropical's Morin de Villefranche techniques) and stength of

> planets. It is so hard to understand the latter and classics (either in

> tropical in jyotish) mixed these with " affliction " (a weak planet being

> most

> of time " afflicted " ). It is sad students of SA still dont understand this

> core truth of SA...

>

> Actually, in my (newly undertaken) study of SA, what stands is obviously

> this: strength and weaknesses of planets, functional benefics and

> malefics,

> and major significators as defined in the list you provided in the link to

> your website earlier (<http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/signi.htm>).

> It is sound and answers many questions we, as students may have.

>

> So, I would like to understand (direct me to printed material or any page

> to

> your website, if needed), what is the precedence of significators in SA?

> The

> list you provided is not " complete " although it covers major aspects of

> our

> lifes. So if one need to find a " new " significator, not listed, how does

> he

> work his list?

>

> Thank you for your time, your patience and involvement!

>

> --

> With my best of regards!

> François

>

> siha wrote:

>> Hello Mr. Raj,

>>

>> I am to the scene much later in 1985 and had no access to the

>> magazines of 1970s.

>

> ======> By th way: it comforting to read SAGAR introduction to " System

> Approach for Interpreting Horoscopes, ed 2002.

>

>>

>> The main point which gave birth to SA was the functional nature of

>> planets.

>>

>> Good things in life are achieved if it is destined.

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

>>

>> Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:06 AM

>> Re: Phaladipika

>>

>>

>> Dear S.G.

>>

>> If you try to apply dicta of Bhavarth Ratnakar or any other classics

>> without considering the strength and placement of planets you will

>> not achieve success. Jupiter in Taurus ascendent for example would

>> give good results only if strong and not afflicting any planet or

>> house, as correctly pointed out in SA. Neechbhanga Raj yoga is

>> definitely not consistent and good results obtained sometimes can be

>> explained through other concepts. Although Saturn is debilitated for

>> 2.5 years, it strength varies depending upon the strength of its

>> dispositor, and on times it may be aspected by strong functional

>> benefics. You always have to apply complete system, not just one

>> concept in isolation.

>>

>> The authors of articles I pointed out in AM were S.K.Singhania,

>> V.K.Jain, and Suryanarain Rao etc. I will give you more detailed list

>> tomorrow if you wish.

>>

>> I agree with you that for the progress of a science, ideas should flow

>> freely. At the same times everybody should be acknowledged for his

>> ideas or work. B.V.Raman started the magazine where different people

>> could share their theories. He should be appreciated for that. Iyer

>> and Krishnamurthy were first to challenge the classics, although the

>> techniques they put forward were complicated and very different from

>> the classical principles. SA on the other hand is much more based on

>> classicals and is very simple and universally applicable. Therefore I

>> believe this has a great future, especially because Prof Chaudhury is

>> putting great effort in explaining his point of view. As with any

>> science, it also has a room to improve.

>>

>> I think there is no use in talking to ICAS. If VKC could not convince

>> them how can you?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> RAJ K. CHADHA

>>

>> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote:

>> Dear Raj ji ,

>>

>> I also replied to Alcho in a similar way only.

>>

>> Any how thanks . I will go thru the sources

>> immediately . Bhavaratnakara by Dr B.V Raman

>> (Translation of Ramanujam )says that for Aquaris

>> Lagna , Venus and Mars will not confer Rajayoga.

>> B.V Raman has said he failed to understand that

>> . As per SA, Mars is not the 10th lord .

>> Ramanujam has said that for Aries Lagna ,

>> Saturn and Jup combo will not confer Rajayoga . As

>> per SA , Saturn is not the 10th lord.

>>

>> But Ramanjuman has said that for Taurus Lagna

>> , Mercury and Jup will confer wealth . Jupiter

>> is the 11th lord and Mercury the 2nd lord.

>> There he is not taking MT .

>>

>> Any how, if you could tell me who wrote the

>> article in Astrological Magazine , It will help m

>> e in taking up with ICAS Members at Chennai as

>> currently what I face from them are on the

>> following grounds

>>

>> 1) ICAS will follow B.V Raman's teachings only .

>>

>> 2) There is no emphasis on M.T . No doubt that

>> M.T is th important house but other house's

>> role will come into effect .

>>

>> 3) Never underestimate debilitated planets .

>> People with 2 or 3 deb planets have suceeded .

>> Neechabhanga Rajayoga applies.

>>

>> Raj ji , Saturn is debilitated for 2 1/2 yeas

>> and Jup for 1 year . To say that for these

>> periods MT lords(Sat and Jup) for various lagnas

>> will suffer is slightly unpalatable only . ie why

>> I repeatedly asked the question

>>

>> " IF THE DEB PLANET IS YOUNG AND WELL PLACED ,

>> IS THERE BHANGA ?

>> Do not misunderstand that I am opposing the SA

>> priniple of DEB Planets . Learning canot happen

>> without free flow of ideas.

>>

>> Thanks and reg

>>

>> SG.

>> --- Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

>>

>>> SG and Alchocoden:

>>>

>>> There a large number of Yogas and dicta in Classical

>>> Astrology. If you use them you can take a puper's

>>> chart and show that it belongs to a king, and vice

>>> versa. The credit has to go to Prof Chaudhury for

>>> picking up a few gems among them while discarding

>>> the rest, and weaving them into a cohesive and

>>> reproducible system that anybody like you and me can

>>> use successfully.

>>>

>>> However, if you still want to see the source of

>>> those gems, look into the following:

>>> Phaladeepika: Shloka 8.35 (for MEP concept), 15.11,

>>> 15.13, 15.17 and 15.19 (for priortising MT signs).

>>> Astrological magazine: Year 1970, page 495 (for

>>> Rahu/Ketu), 769 (for orb of 5 degrees). Year 1971,

>>> page 708 (for dispositor concept) and page 939 (for

>>> importance of Bhukti lord).

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> RAJ K. CHADHA

>>>

>>> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g

>>> wrote: Dear

>>> Alchocoden ,

>>>

>>> Can you quote those 2 verses . I dont think so

>>>

>>> that that would have influenced our Professor.

>>> To

>>> come out with a system only research would

>>> have helped him .

>>>

>>> SG.

>>> --- ALCHOCODEN <alchocoden wrote:

>>>

>>> > Hello Professor,

>>> >

>>> > Actually I am reading a booklet from Denis

>>> Labouré

>>> > who cites two verses from

>>> > Phaladipika (chap 15, verses 1 and 6) and base

>>> > delineation on these. Can we

>>> > say that this book influenced in some way your

>>> > Systems Approach synthesis? I

>>> > think I see some common links with SA here.

>>> >

>>> > --

>>> > Best regards,

>>> > François

>>> >

>>> >

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> ________

>>> Finding fabulous fares is fun.

>>> Let FareChase search your favorite travel

>>> sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

>>> http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Need Mail bonding?

>>> Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from

>>> Answers users.

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>>> removed]

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ________

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>> with the Search movie showtime shortcut.

>> http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Hello Professor,

 

Pages have been printed. So understanding the significations of houses and

planets, if mooltrikona don't fall in any house I look for, I should look

for its general significator, if not found in the previous list you refered.

 

Thank you again!

 

Best regards,

François

 

siha wrote:

> Hello Francois,

>

> You have to understand that for identifying significators for any

> aspect of life one has to see the house, the planet ruling the house

> and the planet which is general significator for that aspect of life.

> So, you have to return to the basics. Read about planets and houses.

> http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/b11.htm

> http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/b13.htm

>

> Then on the website you may read about how to identify the aspect of

> marriage, profession, health, etc. and the related case studies.

>

> I hope that helps.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

> www.YourNetAstrologer.com

> www.JyotishRemedies121.com

> A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India)

> Phones: 91 124 - 2219240

> Mobile 98110 16333

>

> -

> " Francois CARRIERE " <alchocoden

>

> Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:26 AM

> Re: Phaladipika and significators precedence

>

>

>> Professor,

>>

>> As a student who delve in sidereal astrology, I now know functional

>> benefics

>> and malefics, planets strength, as defined in SA is " correct " . Well I

>> should

>> say " sound " . The reason why I ask about Phaladipika had to do with

>> these two

>> core definitions of SA, functional benefics/malefics (I used them

>> extensively in tropical's Morin de Villefranche techniques) and

>> stength of planets. It is so hard to understand the latter and

>> classics (either in tropical in jyotish) mixed these with

>> " affliction " (a weak planet being most

>> of time " afflicted " ). It is sad students of SA still dont understand

>> this core truth of SA...

>>

>> Actually, in my (newly undertaken) study of SA, what stands is

>> obviously this: strength and weaknesses of planets, functional

>> benefics and malefics,

>> and major significators as defined in the list you provided in the

>> link to your website earlier

>> (<http://www.yournetastrologer.com/basic/signi.htm>). It is sound

>> and answers many questions we, as students may have.

>>

>> So, I would like to understand (direct me to printed material or any

>> page to

>> your website, if needed), what is the precedence of significators in

>> SA? The

>> list you provided is not " complete " although it covers major aspects

>> of our

>> lifes. So if one need to find a " new " significator, not listed, how

>> does he

>> work his list?

>>

>> Thank you for your time, your patience and involvement!

>>

>> --

>> With my best of regards!

>> François

>>

>> siha wrote:

>>> Hello Mr. Raj,

>>>

>>> I am to the scene much later in 1985 and had no access to the

>>> magazines of 1970s.

>>

>> ======> By th way: it comforting to read SAGAR introduction to

>> " System Approach for Interpreting Horoscopes, ed 2002.

>>

>>>

>>> The main point which gave birth to SA was the functional nature of

>>> planets.

>>>

>>> Good things in life are achieved if it is destined.

>>>

>>> Best wishes,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -

>>> " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

>>>

>>> Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:06 AM

>>> Re: Phaladipika

>>>

>>>

>>> Dear S.G.

>>>

>>> If you try to apply dicta of Bhavarth Ratnakar or any other classics

>>> without considering the strength and placement of planets you will

>>> not achieve success. Jupiter in Taurus ascendent for example would

>>> give good results only if strong and not afflicting any planet or

>>> house, as correctly pointed out in SA. Neechbhanga Raj yoga is

>>> definitely not consistent and good results obtained sometimes can be

>>> explained through other concepts. Although Saturn is debilitated for

>>> 2.5 years, it strength varies depending upon the strength of its

>>> dispositor, and on times it may be aspected by strong functional

>>> benefics. You always have to apply complete system, not just one

>>> concept in isolation.

>>>

>>> The authors of articles I pointed out in AM were S.K.Singhania,

>>> V.K.Jain, and Suryanarain Rao etc. I will give you more detailed

>>> list tomorrow if you wish.

>>>

>>> I agree with you that for the progress of a science, ideas should

>>> flow freely. At the same times everybody should be acknowledged for

>>> his ideas or work. B.V.Raman started the magazine where different

>>> people could share their theories. He should be appreciated for

>>> that. Iyer and Krishnamurthy were first to challenge the classics,

>>> although the techniques they put forward were complicated and very

>>> different from the classical principles. SA on the other hand is

>>> much more based on classicals and is very simple and universally

>>> applicable. Therefore I believe this has a great future, especially

>>> because Prof Chaudhury is putting great effort in explaining his

>>> point of view. As with any science, it also has a room to improve.

>>>

>>> I think there is no use in talking to ICAS. If VKC could not

>>> convince them how can you?

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> RAJ K. CHADHA

>>>

>>> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote:

>>> Dear Raj ji ,

>>>

>>> I also replied to Alcho in a similar way only.

>>>

>>> Any how thanks . I will go thru the sources

>>> immediately . Bhavaratnakara by Dr B.V Raman

>>> (Translation of Ramanujam )says that for Aquaris

>>> Lagna , Venus and Mars will not confer Rajayoga.

>>> B.V Raman has said he failed to understand that

>>> . As per SA, Mars is not the 10th lord .

>>> Ramanujam has said that for Aries Lagna ,

>>> Saturn and Jup combo will not confer Rajayoga . As

>>> per SA , Saturn is not the 10th lord.

>>>

>>> But Ramanjuman has said that for Taurus Lagna

>>> , Mercury and Jup will confer wealth . Jupiter

>>> is the 11th lord and Mercury the 2nd lord.

>>> There he is not taking MT .

>>>

>>> Any how, if you could tell me who wrote the

>>> article in Astrological Magazine , It will help m

>>> e in taking up with ICAS Members at Chennai as

>>> currently what I face from them are on the

>>> following grounds

>>>

>>> 1) ICAS will follow B.V Raman's teachings only .

>>>

>>> 2) There is no emphasis on M.T . No doubt that

>>> M.T is th important house but other house's

>>> role will come into effect .

>>>

>>> 3) Never underestimate debilitated planets .

>>> People with 2 or 3 deb planets have suceeded .

>>> Neechabhanga Rajayoga applies.

>>>

>>> Raj ji , Saturn is debilitated for 2 1/2 yeas

>>> and Jup for 1 year . To say that for these

>>> periods MT lords(Sat and Jup) for various lagnas

>>> will suffer is slightly unpalatable only . ie why

>>> I repeatedly asked the question

>>>

>>> " IF THE DEB PLANET IS YOUNG AND WELL PLACED ,

>>> IS THERE BHANGA ?

>>> Do not misunderstand that I am opposing the SA

>>> priniple of DEB Planets . Learning canot happen

>>> without free flow of ideas.

>>>

>>> Thanks and reg

>>>

>>> SG.

>>> --- Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

>>>

>>>> SG and Alchocoden:

>>>>

>>>> There a large number of Yogas and dicta in Classical

>>>> Astrology. If you use them you can take a puper's

>>>> chart and show that it belongs to a king, and vice

>>>> versa. The credit has to go to Prof Chaudhury for

>>>> picking up a few gems among them while discarding

>>>> the rest, and weaving them into a cohesive and

>>>> reproducible system that anybody like you and me can

>>>> use successfully.

>>>>

>>>> However, if you still want to see the source of

>>>> those gems, look into the following:

>>>> Phaladeepika: Shloka 8.35 (for MEP concept), 15.11,

>>>> 15.13, 15.17 and 15.19 (for priortising MT signs).

>>>> Astrological magazine: Year 1970, page 495 (for

>>>> Rahu/Ketu), 769 (for orb of 5 degrees). Year 1971,

>>>> page 708 (for dispositor concept) and page 939 (for

>>>> importance of Bhukti lord).

>>>>

>>>> Thanks

>>>>

>>>> RAJ K. CHADHA

>>>>

>>>> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g

>>>> wrote: Dear

>>>> Alchocoden ,

>>>>

>>>> Can you quote those 2 verses . I dont think so

>>>>

>>>> that that would have influenced our Professor.

>>>> To

>>>> come out with a system only research would

>>>> have helped him .

>>>>

>>>> SG.

>>>> --- ALCHOCODEN <alchocoden wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > Hello Professor,

>>>> >

>>>> > Actually I am reading a booklet from Denis

>>>> Labouré

>>>> > who cites two verses from

>>>> > Phaladipika (chap 15, verses 1 and 6) and base

>>>> > delineation on these. Can we

>>>> > say that this book influenced in some way your

>>>> > Systems Approach synthesis? I

>>>> > think I see some common links with SA here.

>>>> >

>>>> > --

>>>> > Best regards,

>>>> > François

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> ________

>>>> Finding fabulous fares is fun.

>>>> Let FareChase search your favorite travel

>>>> sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

>>>> http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Need Mail bonding?

>>>> Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from

>>>> Answers users.

>>>>

>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>>>> removed]

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> ________

>>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time

>>> with the Search movie showtime shortcut.

>>> http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Be a PS3 game guru.

>>> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

>>> Games.

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