Guest guest Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Hello dear C, Well said. The impact can be severe or mild depending upon the strength of the lords of the houses under affliction. Best wishes, - " cosmologer " <cosmologer Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:15 PM How to understand and manage malefic influences > Dear list members, > > This is a very interesting discussion about the 12th lord and its > impact. Below I share my understanding of the impact of the malefic > houses and lords (6, 8 and 12) and the nodes in life and how it is > best to manage such influences. It is an attempt to reflect what I > have learned from our dear and study of SA but > also from vedic philosophy. Hopefully, it helps some list members to > better understand the common thread of malefics influences and how to > best manage them. > > The malefic houses and lords are said to bring about situations and > experiences for persons with difficult such natal placements that may > be characterised as a manifestation of the " pain of seperation " in > life. The painful experiences produce stress that eventually propel > them on the spiritual path - to experience the joyful immersion in > the God awareness. > > The type of stress produced would be in line with the functional > nature of each house. The sixth house would be expected to create the > pain of seperation through conflict, enemity and ill health. The > eighth house would be expected to create this pain through obstacle > or endings (including serious accidents, death like experiences and > even premature death). The twelfth house causes pain through physical > seperation by moving abroad or otherwise becoming isolated through > selfish or anti-social behaviour (prison, drug taking, alcoholism, > etc.). In some cases it is suggested that persons with weak natal > placements move away from the native place after experiencing failure > or lack of success. The act of moving away represents an effort to > gain successs or fulfillment elsewhere. > > The nodes are a special case, where Rahu is associated with moving > the person into greater materiality (away from spirituality and the > ideation on God). This behaviour is often seen to bring with it > deception in order to gain a desired pleasure. However, the deception > often becomes exposed causing a crisis, possibly involving seperation. > Ketu, being very different from Rahu, but just as potent in its > effect, is seen to increase the isolation through eccentric beahviour > or emphasis on spirituality to the point that it isolates > the person from the family or society. > > It is widely believed that faith in God helps people to > overcome painful experiences of seperation. More importantly, it is > the faith in God, or rather the active ideation on God, including > through propiation and astral remedies to strengthen planets, that > becomes the best way forward for such persons to forestall or avoid > painful experiences in life. However, it is also helpful that the > persons change their attitude appropriate to the situation. For > someone challenged by sixth house influences it would help a great > deal for that person to adopt a flexible approach and avoid being > adamant about their point of view. Someone with significant > afflictions involving the eighth house would be better off to to > become cautious. For someone with strong twelfth house influcences it > would be advisable for the person to become active in offering help > to others in need - to adopt an altruistic attitude in life. For > Rahu, it would also be helpful to restrain the desires and for Ketu > to adopt a more outgoing approach. > > Importantly, the effort to understand and manage afflictions in a > horoscope should be viewed as an opportunity to progress rapidly in > life and gain a more lasting inner fulfillment. > > Perhaps has some clarification or additional point > to offer. > > Best wishes, > > C > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Dear Cosmologer, Thanks for sharing this with all of us. I agree 200% with you, as I have seen the real impact of regular meditation (the active ideation on the Self) in the lives of hundreds! Preventive astral remedies are the main reason of the existence of the Divine Science of Vedic Astrology. Best wishes, Jorge On 1/6/07, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear list members, > > This is a very interesting discussion about the 12th lord and its > impact. Below I share my understanding of the impact of the malefic > houses and lords (6, 8 and 12) and the nodes in life and how it is > best to manage such influences. It is an attempt to reflect what I > have learned from our dear and study of SA but > also from vedic philosophy. Hopefully, it helps some list members to > better understand the common thread of malefics influences and how to > best manage them. > > The malefic houses and lords are said to bring about situations and > experiences for persons with difficult such natal placements that may > be characterised as a manifestation of the " pain of seperation " in > life. The painful experiences produce stress that eventually propel > them on the spiritual path - to experience the joyful immersion in > the God awareness. > > The type of stress produced would be in line with the functional > nature of each house. The sixth house would be expected to create the > pain of seperation through conflict, enemity and ill health. The > eighth house would be expected to create this pain through obstacle > or endings (including serious accidents, death like experiences and > even premature death). The twelfth house causes pain through physical > seperation by moving abroad or otherwise becoming isolated through > selfish or anti-social behaviour (prison, drug taking, alcoholism, > etc.). In some cases it is suggested that persons with weak natal > placements move away from the native place after experiencing failure > or lack of success. The act of moving away represents an effort to > gain successs or fulfillment elsewhere. > > The nodes are a special case, where Rahu is associated with moving > the person into greater materiality (away from spirituality and the > ideation on God). This behaviour is often seen to bring with it > deception in order to gain a desired pleasure. However, the deception > often becomes exposed causing a crisis, possibly involving seperation. > Ketu, being very different from Rahu, but just as potent in its > effect, is seen to increase the isolation through eccentric beahviour > or emphasis on spirituality to the point that it isolates > the person from the family or society. > > It is widely believed that faith in God helps people to > overcome painful experiences of seperation. More importantly, it is > the faith in God, or rather the active ideation on God, including > through propiation and astral remedies to strengthen planets, that > becomes the best way forward for such persons to forestall or avoid > painful experiences in life. However, it is also helpful that the > persons change their attitude appropriate to the situation. For > someone challenged by sixth house influences it would help a great > deal for that person to adopt a flexible approach and avoid being > adamant about their point of view. Someone with significant > afflictions involving the eighth house would be better off to to > become cautious. For someone with strong twelfth house influcences it > would be advisable for the person to become active in offering help > to others in need - to adopt an altruistic attitude in life. For > Rahu, it would also be helpful to restrain the desires and for Ketu > to adopt a more outgoing approach. > > Importantly, the effort to understand and manage afflictions in a > horoscope should be viewed as an opportunity to progress rapidly in > life and gain a more lasting inner fulfillment. > > Perhaps has some clarification or additional point > to offer. > > Best wishes, > > C > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Thank you dear , for the kind comments and additional point for reflection. Best wishes, C , <siha wrote: > > > Hello dear C, > > Well said. > > The impact can be severe or mild depending upon the strength of the lords of > the houses under affliction. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > - > " cosmologer " <cosmologer > > Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:15 PM > How to understand and manage malefic influences > > > > Dear list members, > > > > This is a very interesting discussion about the 12th lord and its > > impact. Below I share my understanding of the impact of the malefic > > houses and lords (6, 8 and 12) and the nodes in life and how it is > > best to manage such influences. It is an attempt to reflect what I > > have learned from our dear and study of SA but > > also from vedic philosophy. Hopefully, it helps some list members to > > better understand the common thread of malefics influences and how to > > best manage them. > > > > The malefic houses and lords are said to bring about situations and > > experiences for persons with difficult such natal placements that may > > be characterised as a manifestation of the " pain of seperation " in > > life. The painful experiences produce stress that eventually propel > > them on the spiritual path - to experience the joyful immersion in > > the God awareness. > > > > The type of stress produced would be in line with the functional > > nature of each house. The sixth house would be expected to create the > > pain of seperation through conflict, enemity and ill health. The > > eighth house would be expected to create this pain through obstacle > > or endings (including serious accidents, death like experiences and > > even premature death). The twelfth house causes pain through physical > > seperation by moving abroad or otherwise becoming isolated through > > selfish or anti-social behaviour (prison, drug taking, alcoholism, > > etc.). In some cases it is suggested that persons with weak natal > > placements move away from the native place after experiencing failure > > or lack of success. The act of moving away represents an effort to > > gain successs or fulfillment elsewhere. > > > > The nodes are a special case, where Rahu is associated with moving > > the person into greater materiality (away from spirituality and the > > ideation on God). This behaviour is often seen to bring with it > > deception in order to gain a desired pleasure. However, the deception > > often becomes exposed causing a crisis, possibly involving seperation. > > Ketu, being very different from Rahu, but just as potent in its > > effect, is seen to increase the isolation through eccentric beahviour > > or emphasis on spirituality to the point that it isolates > > the person from the family or society. > > > > It is widely believed that faith in God helps people to > > overcome painful experiences of seperation. More importantly, it is > > the faith in God, or rather the active ideation on God, including > > through propiation and astral remedies to strengthen planets, that > > becomes the best way forward for such persons to forestall or avoid > > painful experiences in life. However, it is also helpful that the > > persons change their attitude appropriate to the situation. For > > someone challenged by sixth house influences it would help a great > > deal for that person to adopt a flexible approach and avoid being > > adamant about their point of view. Someone with significant > > afflictions involving the eighth house would be better off to to > > become cautious. For someone with strong twelfth house influcences it > > would be advisable for the person to become active in offering help > > to others in need - to adopt an altruistic attitude in life. For > > Rahu, it would also be helpful to restrain the desires and for Ketu > > to adopt a more outgoing approach. > > > > Importantly, the effort to understand and manage afflictions in a > > horoscope should be viewed as an opportunity to progress rapidly in > > life and gain a more lasting inner fulfillment. > > > > Perhaps has some clarification or additional point > > to offer. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Dear Jorge, You are welcome. I agree wholeheartedly about the importance of preventive astral remedies and spiritual approach for happiness in life. Best wishes, C , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear Cosmologer, > > Thanks for sharing this with all of us. > > I agree 200% with you, as I have seen the real impact of regular meditation > (the active ideation on the Self) in the lives of hundreds! > > Preventive astral remedies are the main reason of the existence of the > Divine Science of Vedic Astrology. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On 1/6/07, cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > > > Dear list members, > > > > This is a very interesting discussion about the 12th lord and its > > impact. Below I share my understanding of the impact of the malefic > > houses and lords (6, 8 and 12) and the nodes in life and how it is > > best to manage such influences. It is an attempt to reflect what I > > have learned from our dear and study of SA but > > also from vedic philosophy. Hopefully, it helps some list members to > > better understand the common thread of malefics influences and how to > > best manage them. > > > > The malefic houses and lords are said to bring about situations and > > experiences for persons with difficult such natal placements that may > > be characterised as a manifestation of the " pain of seperation " in > > life. The painful experiences produce stress that eventually propel > > them on the spiritual path - to experience the joyful immersion in > > the God awareness. > > > > The type of stress produced would be in line with the functional > > nature of each house. The sixth house would be expected to create the > > pain of seperation through conflict, enemity and ill health. The > > eighth house would be expected to create this pain through obstacle > > or endings (including serious accidents, death like experiences and > > even premature death). The twelfth house causes pain through physical > > seperation by moving abroad or otherwise becoming isolated through > > selfish or anti-social behaviour (prison, drug taking, alcoholism, > > etc.). In some cases it is suggested that persons with weak natal > > placements move away from the native place after experiencing failure > > or lack of success. The act of moving away represents an effort to > > gain successs or fulfillment elsewhere. > > > > The nodes are a special case, where Rahu is associated with moving > > the person into greater materiality (away from spirituality and the > > ideation on God). This behaviour is often seen to bring with it > > deception in order to gain a desired pleasure. However, the deception > > often becomes exposed causing a crisis, possibly involving seperation. > > Ketu, being very different from Rahu, but just as potent in its > > effect, is seen to increase the isolation through eccentric beahviour > > or emphasis on spirituality to the point that it isolates > > the person from the family or society. > > > > It is widely believed that faith in God helps people to > > overcome painful experiences of seperation. More importantly, it is > > the faith in God, or rather the active ideation on God, including > > through propiation and astral remedies to strengthen planets, that > > becomes the best way forward for such persons to forestall or avoid > > painful experiences in life. However, it is also helpful that the > > persons change their attitude appropriate to the situation. For > > someone challenged by sixth house influences it would help a great > > deal for that person to adopt a flexible approach and avoid being > > adamant about their point of view. Someone with significant > > afflictions involving the eighth house would be better off to to > > become cautious. For someone with strong twelfth house influcences it > > would be advisable for the person to become active in offering help > > to others in need - to adopt an altruistic attitude in life. For > > Rahu, it would also be helpful to restrain the desires and for Ketu > > to adopt a more outgoing approach. > > > > Importantly, the effort to understand and manage afflictions in a > > horoscope should be viewed as an opportunity to progress rapidly in > > life and gain a more lasting inner fulfillment. > > > > Perhaps has some clarification or additional point > > to offer. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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