Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Dear Professor, I request you to clarify some doubts on the planetary strenghts.Pls do not reply that if I want to learn SA , learn like that . 1) The exact exaltation of Mars is in 28 degrees at Capricorn and debilitation at 28 degress in Cancer. The exact exaltation of Moon is in 3 degrees in Taurus and debilitation at 3 degrees in Scorpio .So on and so forth for other planets . But as per SA , Both Mars and Moon are in Old age and in infancy respectively . Does not the exact degrees matter ? Ideally one would like to have a planet exalted in the perfect degree. 2)Does The residential strength of planets ie range of Infancy -young age -old age vary for odd and even houses ? .Does the avastha vary for odd and even houses ? 3) Other balas like positional strength ie Dig bala (Saturn in 7th etc ) need not have any significance is it ? Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " <sadasivan_g Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:20 PM PLANETARY STRENGTHS > Dear Professor, > > I request you to clarify some doubts on the > planetary strenghts.Pls do not reply that if I > want to learn SA , learn like that . > I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN PEOPLE RAISE IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS OR WHEN THEY START COMPARING SA WITH OTHER SYSTEMS. I TALK ONLY OF SA. > 1) The exact exaltation of Mars is in 28 > degrees at Capricorn and debilitation at 28 degress > in Cancer. The exact exaltation of Moon is in 3 > degrees in Taurus and debilitation at 3 degrees > in Scorpio .So on and so forth for other planets . THESE ARE AGAIN CLASSICAL. AS PER SAY EXALTED MARS WOULD BE ONLY STRONG IF BETWEEN 5 TO 25 DEGREES. > But as per SA , Both Mars and Moon are in Old age > and in infancy respectively . Does not the exact > degrees matter ? NO. Ideally one would like to > have a planet exalted in the perfect degree. AS PER CLASSICAL SYSTEM, YES. BUT AS PER SA NO. > 2)Does The residential strength of planets ie > range of Infancy -young age -old age vary for odd > and even houses ? .Does the avastha vary for > odd and even houses ? NO. > 3) Other balas like positional strength ie Dig > bala (Saturn in 7th etc ) need not have any > significance is it ? > RIGHT. > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Dear Professor, Thanks for the reply. While there is no denying the fact that your goodself has come out with a system defying the classics which many have not or dared not , I just get bewildered sometimes when classic defies the logical relationship .To explain further , VENUS in the 12th house confers good wealth as per classics.It is indeed foolish to believe without examining the chart . However, in the charts of Shri Karunanidhi , Harshad Mehta, Ambani etc , Venus is in the 12th hous. Pls note that MT s of 4th house, 2nd house and 11th house respectively are in the 12th . I agree that other combinations have to be seen . In ICAS , they say that Venus in 12th confers huge wealth . Has it happened to your goodself that classics sometimes defies logic, which ideally should not happen, and one has to bite it as a memory tablet . Expecting your reply. Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan --- siha wrote: > > Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your > message appended below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " > <sadasivan_g > > Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:20 PM > PLANETARY STRENGTHS > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > I request you to clarify some doubts on the > > planetary strenghts.Pls do not reply that if > I > > want to learn SA , learn like that . > > > I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN PEOPLE RAISE IRRELEVANT > QUESTIONS OR WHEN THEY START > COMPARING SA WITH OTHER SYSTEMS. I TALK ONLY OF SA. > > > 1) The exact exaltation of Mars is in 28 > > degrees at Capricorn and debilitation at 28 > degress > > in Cancer. The exact exaltation of Moon is > in 3 > > degrees in Taurus and debilitation at 3 degrees > > in Scorpio .So on and so forth for other > planets . > > THESE ARE AGAIN CLASSICAL. AS PER SAY EXALTED MARS > WOULD BE ONLY STRONG IF > BETWEEN 5 TO 25 DEGREES. > > > But as per SA , Both Mars and Moon are in Old > age > > and in infancy respectively . Does not the > exact > > degrees matter ? > NO. > Ideally one would like to > > have a planet exalted in the perfect > degree. > AS PER CLASSICAL SYSTEM, YES. BUT AS PER SA NO. > > 2)Does The residential strength of planets > ie > > range of Infancy -young age -old age vary for > odd > > and even houses ? .Does the avastha vary for > > odd and even houses ? > NO. > > 3) Other balas like positional strength ie > Dig > > bala (Saturn in 7th etc ) need not have any > > significance is it ? > > > RIGHT. > > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, Classics generally defy logic. They are inconsitent. Principles are contrary to each other. For example you see the functional nature of planets, kendradhipati dosha yoga, panch mahapurush yoga, badhaka principle and even yogakaraka planets. Saturn is considered yogakaraka for Taurus ascendant while it is also the badhaka planet for Taurus. You can say principle only to that benchmark which is universally applicable. The authenticity of the charts of famous people in circulation is questionable. In the case of Narasimha Rao the chart in circulation was with Virgo asdt whereas he had Libra ascendant as per his horoscope made at birth and personally seen by me. Since earlier writers did little to remove controvercies they never felt the need of updating their books. I do not want to involve myself in any controversy and therefore I only talk for myself. I am not in the habit of criticizing every other author like some famous people do. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " <sadasivan_g Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:25 AM Re: PLANETARY STRENGTHS > Dear Professor, > > Thanks for the reply. While there is no denying > the fact that your goodself has come out with > a system defying the classics which many have > not or dared not , I just get bewildered > sometimes when classic defies the logical > relationship .To explain further , VENUS in the > 12th house confers good wealth as per > classics.It is indeed foolish to believe without > examining the chart . However, in the charts of > Shri Karunanidhi , Harshad Mehta, Ambani etc , Venus > is in the 12th hous. Pls note that MT s of > 4th house, 2nd house and 11th house respectively > are in the 12th . I agree that other > combinations have to be seen . In ICAS , they > say that Venus in 12th confers huge wealth . > > > Has it happened to your goodself that classics > sometimes defies logic, which ideally should not > happen, and one has to bite it as a memory > tablet . Expecting your reply. > > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan > > > > --- siha wrote: > >> >> Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, >> >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in your >> message appended below. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> - >> " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " >> <sadasivan_g >> >> Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:20 PM >> PLANETARY STRENGTHS >> >> >> > Dear Professor, >> > >> > I request you to clarify some doubts on the >> > planetary strenghts.Pls do not reply that if >> I >> > want to learn SA , learn like that . >> > >> I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN PEOPLE RAISE IRRELEVANT >> QUESTIONS OR WHEN THEY START >> COMPARING SA WITH OTHER SYSTEMS. I TALK ONLY OF SA. >> >> > 1) The exact exaltation of Mars is in 28 >> > degrees at Capricorn and debilitation at 28 >> degress >> > in Cancer. The exact exaltation of Moon is >> in 3 >> > degrees in Taurus and debilitation at 3 degrees >> > in Scorpio .So on and so forth for other >> planets . >> >> THESE ARE AGAIN CLASSICAL. AS PER SAY EXALTED MARS >> WOULD BE ONLY STRONG IF >> BETWEEN 5 TO 25 DEGREES. >> >> > But as per SA , Both Mars and Moon are in Old >> age >> > and in infancy respectively . Does not the >> exact >> > degrees matter ? >> NO. >> Ideally one would like to >> > have a planet exalted in the perfect >> degree. >> AS PER CLASSICAL SYSTEM, YES. BUT AS PER SA NO. >> > 2)Does The residential strength of planets >> ie >> > range of Infancy -young age -old age vary for >> odd >> > and even houses ? .Does the avastha vary for >> > odd and even houses ? >> NO. >> > 3) Other balas like positional strength ie >> Dig >> > bala (Saturn in 7th etc ) need not have any >> > significance is it ? >> > >> RIGHT. >> > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan >> > >> > >> > >> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Dear Sir, Just now I reached home after the ICAS meet at Chennai . A chart was discussed at length were for Sagittarius Lagna Venus is in lagna and still the Venus dasa prospered . I told them that the reason is simple as Venus is the 11th lord and not the 6th lord. I was attacked saying that Rishis principles cannot be altered just like that for any body's convenience . SA principles like Moolatrikona's Importance, MEP, prime determinants ,close conjunction ,MMF,Sun like Planets are not known to ICAS members.Charts are discussed without planetary degrees . I understand from the website that you were honoured some title by ICAS Chennai and still you are one of the Course directors .Why SA priciples cant be disseminated thru ICAS ? If FB Venus is in MEP in 12th , then will not it confer wealth as it aspects the 6th house (financial stability) closely . Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan --- siha wrote: > > Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Classics generally defy logic. They are > inconsitent. Principles are > contrary to each other. For example you see the > functional nature of > planets, kendradhipati dosha yoga, panch mahapurush > yoga, badhaka principle > and even yogakaraka planets. Saturn is considered > yogakaraka for Taurus > ascendant while it is also the badhaka planet for > Taurus. > > You can say principle only to that benchmark which > is universally > applicable. > > The authenticity of the charts of famous people in > circulation is > questionable. > > In the case of Narasimha Rao the chart in > circulation was with Virgo asdt > whereas he had Libra ascendant as per his horoscope > made at birth and > personally seen by me. > > Since earlier writers did little to remove > controvercies they never felt the > need of updating their books. > > I do not want to involve myself in any controversy > and therefore I only talk > for myself. I am not in the habit of criticizing > every other author like > some famous people do. > > Best wishes, > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > www.JyotishRemedies121.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 > Mobile 98110 16333 > > > - > " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " > <sadasivan_g > > Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:25 AM > Re: PLANETARY STRENGTHS > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > Thanks for the reply. While there is no > denying > > the fact that your goodself has come out > with > > a system defying the classics which many > have > > not or dared not , I just get bewildered > > sometimes when classic defies the logical > > relationship .To explain further , VENUS in > the > > 12th house confers good wealth as per > > classics.It is indeed foolish to believe > without > > examining the chart . However, in the charts > of > > Shri Karunanidhi , Harshad Mehta, Ambani etc , > Venus > > is in the 12th hous. Pls note that MT s > of > > 4th house, 2nd house and 11th house > respectively > > are in the 12th . I agree that other > > combinations have to be seen . In ICAS , they > > say that Venus in 12th confers huge wealth . > > > > > > Has it happened to your goodself that > classics > > sometimes defies logic, which ideally should > not > > happen, and one has to bite it as a memory > > tablet . Expecting your reply. > > > > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > --- siha wrote: > > > >> > >> Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > >> > >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in > your > >> message appended below. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " > >> <sadasivan_g > >> > >> Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:20 PM > >> PLANETARY STRENGTHS > >> > >> > >> > Dear Professor, > >> > > >> > I request you to clarify some doubts on > the > >> > planetary strenghts.Pls do not reply that > if > >> I > >> > want to learn SA , learn like that . > >> > > >> I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN PEOPLE RAISE IRRELEVANT > >> QUESTIONS OR WHEN THEY START > >> COMPARING SA WITH OTHER SYSTEMS. I TALK ONLY OF > SA. > >> > >> > 1) The exact exaltation of Mars is in 28 > >> > degrees at Capricorn and debilitation at 28 > >> degress > >> > in Cancer. The exact exaltation of Moon is > >> in 3 > >> > degrees in Taurus and debilitation at 3 > degrees > >> > in Scorpio .So on and so forth for other > >> planets . > >> > >> THESE ARE AGAIN CLASSICAL. AS PER SAY EXALTED > MARS > >> WOULD BE ONLY STRONG IF > >> BETWEEN 5 TO 25 DEGREES. > >> > >> > But as per SA , Both Mars and Moon are in > Old > >> age > >> > and in infancy respectively . Does not the > >> exact > >> > degrees matter ? > >> NO. > >> Ideally one would like to > >> > have a planet exalted in the perfect > >> degree. > >> AS PER CLASSICAL SYSTEM, YES. BUT AS PER SA NO. > >> > 2)Does The residential strength of planets > >> ie > >> > range of Infancy -young age -old age vary > for > >> odd > >> > and even houses ? .Does the avastha vary > for > >> > odd and even houses ? > >> NO. > >> > 3) Other balas like positional strength ie > >> Dig > >> > bala (Saturn in 7th etc ) need not have any > >> > significance is it ? > >> > > >> RIGHT. > >> > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > >> protection around > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Hello dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, National President of ICAS and manyChapter chairmen visited my house in 2000 where I promised all help to them including free copy of software + Sets of my books. I can only bring things to their information. It is everybody's choice whether they want to achieve predictive competence. Venus if FB in 12th house indicates sources of income from foreign lands which was true for Mr. Dhirubhai Ambani, as well. If this 12th FB Venus is close to MEP it certainly helps promotes financial stability of the person. Best wishes, - " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " <sadasivan_g Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:55 PM Re: PLANETARY STRENGTHS > Dear Sir, > > Just now I reached home after the ICAS meet > at Chennai . A chart was discussed at length > were for Sagittarius Lagna Venus is in lagna and > still the Venus dasa prospered . I told them > that the reason is simple as Venus is the 11th > lord and not the 6th lord. I was attacked saying > that Rishis principles cannot be altered just > like that for any body's convenience . SA > principles like Moolatrikona's Importance, MEP, > prime determinants ,close conjunction ,MMF,Sun like > Planets are not known to ICAS members.Charts are > discussed without planetary degrees . I understand > from the website that you were honoured some > title by ICAS Chennai and still you are one of > the Course directors .Why SA priciples cant be > disseminated thru ICAS ? > > If FB Venus is in MEP in 12th , then will not it > confer wealth as it aspects the 6th house > (financial stability) closely . > > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan > > --- siha wrote: > >> >> Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, >> >> Classics generally defy logic. They are >> inconsitent. Principles are >> contrary to each other. For example you see the >> functional nature of >> planets, kendradhipati dosha yoga, panch mahapurush >> yoga, badhaka principle >> and even yogakaraka planets. Saturn is considered >> yogakaraka for Taurus >> ascendant while it is also the badhaka planet for >> Taurus. >> >> You can say principle only to that benchmark which >> is universally >> applicable. >> >> The authenticity of the charts of famous people in >> circulation is >> questionable. >> >> In the case of Narasimha Rao the chart in >> circulation was with Virgo asdt >> whereas he had Libra ascendant as per his horoscope >> made at birth and >> personally seen by me. >> >> Since earlier writers did little to remove >> controvercies they never felt the >> need of updating their books. >> >> I do not want to involve myself in any controversy >> and therefore I only talk >> for myself. I am not in the habit of criticizing >> every other author like >> some famous people do. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> www.YourNetAstrologer.com >> www.JyotishRemedies121.com >> A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) >> Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 >> Mobile 98110 16333 >> >> >> - >> " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " >> <sadasivan_g >> >> Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:25 AM >> Re: PLANETARY STRENGTHS >> >> >> > Dear Professor, >> > >> > Thanks for the reply. While there is no >> denying >> > the fact that your goodself has come out >> with >> > a system defying the classics which many >> have >> > not or dared not , I just get bewildered >> > sometimes when classic defies the logical >> > relationship .To explain further , VENUS in >> the >> > 12th house confers good wealth as per >> > classics.It is indeed foolish to believe >> without >> > examining the chart . However, in the charts >> of >> > Shri Karunanidhi , Harshad Mehta, Ambani etc , >> Venus >> > is in the 12th hous. Pls note that MT s >> of >> > 4th house, 2nd house and 11th house >> respectively >> > are in the 12th . I agree that other >> > combinations have to be seen . In ICAS , they >> > say that Venus in 12th confers huge wealth . >> > >> > >> > Has it happened to your goodself that >> classics >> > sometimes defies logic, which ideally should >> not >> > happen, and one has to bite it as a memory >> > tablet . Expecting your reply. >> > >> > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan >> > >> > >> > >> > --- siha wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan, >> >> >> >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in >> your >> >> message appended below. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " >> >> <sadasivan_g >> >> >> >> Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:20 PM >> >> PLANETARY STRENGTHS >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Professor, >> >> > >> >> > I request you to clarify some doubts on >> the >> >> > planetary strenghts.Pls do not reply that >> if >> >> I >> >> > want to learn SA , learn like that . >> >> > >> >> I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN PEOPLE RAISE IRRELEVANT >> >> QUESTIONS OR WHEN THEY START >> >> COMPARING SA WITH OTHER SYSTEMS. I TALK ONLY OF >> SA. >> >> >> >> > 1) The exact exaltation of Mars is in 28 >> >> > degrees at Capricorn and debilitation at 28 >> >> degress >> >> > in Cancer. The exact exaltation of Moon is >> >> in 3 >> >> > degrees in Taurus and debilitation at 3 >> degrees >> >> > in Scorpio .So on and so forth for other >> >> planets . >> >> >> >> THESE ARE AGAIN CLASSICAL. AS PER SAY EXALTED >> MARS >> >> WOULD BE ONLY STRONG IF >> >> BETWEEN 5 TO 25 DEGREES. >> >> >> >> > But as per SA , Both Mars and Moon are in >> Old >> >> age >> >> > and in infancy respectively . Does not the >> >> exact >> >> > degrees matter ? >> >> NO. >> >> Ideally one would like to >> >> > have a planet exalted in the perfect >> >> degree. >> >> AS PER CLASSICAL SYSTEM, YES. BUT AS PER SA NO. >> >> > 2)Does The residential strength of planets >> >> ie >> >> > range of Infancy -young age -old age vary >> for >> >> odd >> >> > and even houses ? .Does the avastha vary >> for >> >> > odd and even houses ? >> >> NO. >> >> > 3) Other balas like positional strength ie >> >> Dig >> >> > bala (Saturn in 7th etc ) need not have any >> >> > significance is it ? >> >> > >> >> RIGHT. >> >> > Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam >> >> protection around >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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