Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Dear Xavier, 6th house as we consider is it the worst house. It is also upchaya. Here in KAS we consider this automatically when we are casting the WS. We do not add the power or benefic sight of a planet if its the 6th lord of 12th from B. So here both are considered. Please mark its not 12th house of the chart but 12th from B. We also consider special condition of 6th lord in 6th house and a lot of discussion was held in the past and u can easily search the same in the archives. We consider planets placed in the 6th house of the chart as though its in a "black hole" and 6th lord is considered malefic planet. All these things u are considering when you analyse the chart and also when u cast the Worksheet. Now if 6th house has good SAV points means that lagna and 7 planet are giving it good power i.e. SAV so when planets transit through 6th house then daily points will go high and there is more chance that when Sa and Ju or say even other planets transit they might have more than 4 bindus power in the 6th house so such things are considered again indirectly and all in the KAS2005 program. Even most planets in SAV are giving power to 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th house if u closely scrutinise the BAV of each planet in the 1st lesson. So again all such things are considered indirectly. Now 8th house is that of struggle and hardships and also as that of death. Its Karak for 1st house and it denotes sperms and ovaries and also excretory organs. So its a matter of perspective here. Some consider death to be the most auspcious event and some consider it to be a very bad event. I wont go into such things but using KAS we time death using the 8th house. Just in the chart u gave of Francouis the death of her brother happened in Sa/Sa antra and from the WS you can see that it has the highest points for 10th house. So if u consider 8th house as A then its Karak for 1st house and if 8th is made B then it shows the End of 1st house or death. Similarly say for child its 5th house as B to time conception so 12th house is Karak or A. Now if you make 12th house as B then it can indicate death of child. Similarly for all other house. Now hardships and struggle, defame, occult sciences, research (House C for 4th as B), Sco is natural 8th house in kal purush chart and its also the 1st lord and mars is very important planet to show health and also personality as its karak for 6th and 1st both. Yes, more planets in 8th house will aspect 2nd house. So in such cases it might not give say marriage or even it may not give accident. Planest with more points in 2nd house will aspect 8th house so say if in certain antra some misplay with money is done then the native might get caught and might suffer disfame etc in 2nd lords antra. So such person should be careful again we consider that in KAS and timing u can easily find from WS. Now 7th house from any house is the enemy house. So 7th house from 6th house which is the most malefic house is obviosuly going to be the Most Auspicous House. Which is the 12th house. This is a special house. It is the house of Moksh. Again people have different interpretations of Moksh and to each is own. Now 12th house that of pleasures (all kinds), confinements and other things. When 12th house is B then the Trines i.e. 9th and 5th house are LoD and LoE. So it might be said that the antra of trines are good as they bring lakshmi (all kinds) means happiness or pleasures. So we are using all such things. Now as per KAS we also say that the House where 12th lord goes and sits the results of that house are enhanced. We also say that the Planets that go and reside in the 12th house then the House ruled by them their result gets enhanced. We consider 12th from B seperately and its considered in the WS i.e. we do not add the benefic power obtained from 12th from B. So WS is computing such things. The WS is derived from SAV and SAV is derived from BAV of each planet and BAV is got from 7 planets and lagna and their inter-relation between them. So the WS is the cummulative effect of all which includes 4:10's, aspects, yogs, effect of 6th lord, effects of 12th from B, we also in addition consider special status planets i.e LoD and LoE and planets placed in House D and E with more than 4 bindus, So in the end we come to the actual power of the planet based on Ashtakavarg which we use for timing of events. Yes, to address some additional points of your mail. SAV is covering relative placment of planets so say take a chart where a person has many planets in 2nd house so in that case the poitns of 12th house in SAV invariably will be a lot. So all such things are considered i.e. all yogs that are based on relative positioning of planets. Then from that whats not considered are special things such as LoD, LoE, 6th lord , 12th from B, aspects on the house aspects on the lord etc etc etc and all that we can get from the WS. I mean when you say SAV of 12th house is say 28 points then it means that 7 planets are giving approximately 4 bindus on an average. 4 bindus is say average. 12th house is also that of expense so when we compare 11th and 12th SAV we get trend. The timing of events is from WS which is derived from SAV with additional factors considered. Xavier, Just go deeper into each thing that we are using, I think so many things will get clear. About death, death does not happen in low points. As per KAS its the most auspicious happen in the highest points and for death u will observe the similar thing. You can see this for yourself in many charts. 1st lord or 5th lords antra i.e. LoD or LoE or planets in 1st or 5th with more than 4 bindus and ofcourse the WS and highest points invariably death will happen in that. Again topic of death is delicate and I am not adept in that but such things can be noticed right away. Timing of death is from 8th house and 3rd house is karak. 3rd house shows life force. So its not correct to say that planet with less power in 3rd house gives death. It means u are timing death from 3rd house. Death timing is from 8th house only. I shall stop here on this topic as I am not adept with it. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash Xavier Murer <murerx wrote: Dear Ash, In Sarvaashtakavarga, how do you appreciate theses houses? It is better to have a powerful or a weak dusthana house? If the XII has more points thant the XI, the native will have much expense than income OK But residence in foreign country. I observed thant a lot of people, who live abroad, like me, have not a powerful XII in point term , 22/23 some times less. For the 6th, it is better a powerful with more 30 points? In this case, it means the enemy are powerful or the native will defeat them? For 8th House, for the work sheet, I have read weak planet can not give the death, but weak for the 3rd can give it. If you have some clues, thank you. Regards Xavier Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Dear Professor, When are the dusthana houses considered strong. Is it when the lords are their in own houses. In my wifes chart (leo ascendant) eighth house lord Jupiter is placed in its own house. Does it indicate inheritance ? and in daughters chart (Pisces ascendant) 6th lord Sun has gone to the 8th (libra) and getting debilitated. & Is one degree away from Rahu-ketu. Please comment Kind regards Sudhir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hello Sudhir, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " sudhir taurus " <taurus.sudhir Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:20 PM Dusthana houses > Dear Professor, > > When are the dusthana houses considered strong. Is it when the lords are > their in own houses. > THE LORD SHOULD BE STRONG. THEY CAN BE STRONG IN OTHER GOOD HOUSES ALSO. > In my wifes chart (leo ascendant) eighth house lord Jupiter is placed in > its > own house. Does it indicate inheritance ? FOR LEOS GAINS FROM INHERITANCE SHOULD BE SEEN FROM MARS AS THERE IS NO MT SIGN HOUSE IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE. > > and in daughters chart (Pisces ascendant) 6th lord Sun has gone to the 8th > (libra) and getting debilitated. & Is one degree away from Rahu-ketu. > THIS INDICATES SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS FOR HER AND WEAK FINANCIAL POSITION BESIDES LINKING DISPUTES TO THE SOURCE OF INHERITANCE. > Please comment > > Kind regards > Sudhir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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