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Hi

 

This girl has a strange configuration to her Mercury in western astrology.

Can you tell me whether she is inteligent or average or evn retarded who knows?

Born. 18 dec 1986

time: 22.59 in Lisboa,Portugal

 

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P

 

 

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A medical stuff and secret intelligence (moon in mercury sign, mercury

in mercury nakshtra). She's in contact with psychic illness, remedy

manufacturer ok! Very intelligent as Einstein, as I've seen!

 

Attention! This job can make crazy... depression risk!

 

Is she fat or thin (the face)?

 

 

 

, " paulo mendes "

<woodwater1000 wrote:

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> she is extremely inteligent and is studying to be a psychiatric doctor

>

> paulo

> -

> Patrice

>

> Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:52 PM

> Re: intelligence

>

>

> Intelligence very masked, very secret, or invisible?

>

> Moon in Gemini in sidereal in XII (house of illness). The lord of

> Gemini, Mercury, is in conjonction with Saturn in Scorpio (obscurity,

> affraid). Oral expression can be blocked, emotivity interior, no

> expressive. Ascending in Aslesha (Cancer) concern trouble of intellect

> (very young spirit risk) and nutrition (obesity risk).

>

> This girl can be illness psychic(depression). Howhever, many great

> scientifics have a conjonction Mercury/Saturn (Einstein for exemple).

> There brains are specials, emotive... But, in Jyeshta, destiny of this

> person is linked with medicals stuff, remedy (manufacturer or

consumer).

>

> But, how tropicalists can be say that she's illness or other?

>

> PB.

>

>

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thin and very beautiful blonde

 

paulo

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Patrice

Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:26 PM

Re: intelligence

 

 

A medical stuff and secret intelligence (moon in mercury sign, mercury

in mercury nakshtra). She's in contact with psychic illness, remedy

manufacturer ok! Very intelligent as Einstein, as I've seen!

 

Attention! This job can make crazy... depression risk!

 

Is she fat or thin (the face)?

 

, " paulo mendes "

<woodwater1000 wrote:

>

> she is extremely inteligent and is studying to be a psychiatric doctor

>

> paulo

> -

> Patrice

>

> Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:52 PM

> Re: intelligence

>

>

> Intelligence very masked, very secret, or invisible?

>

> Moon in Gemini in sidereal in XII (house of illness). The lord of

> Gemini, Mercury, is in conjonction with Saturn in Scorpio (obscurity,

> affraid). Oral expression can be blocked, emotivity interior, no

> expressive. Ascending in Aslesha (Cancer) concern trouble of intellect

> (very young spirit risk) and nutrition (obesity risk).

>

> This girl can be illness psychic(depression). Howhever, many great

> scientifics have a conjonction Mercury/Saturn (Einstein for exemple).

> There brains are specials, emotive... But, in Jyeshta, destiny of this

> person is linked with medicals stuff, remedy (manufacturer or

consumer).

>

> But, how tropicalists can be say that she's illness or other?

>

> PB.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The face? Circular (Moon Cancri) or Lanky (Mercury Gemini)? She's not

bulimic girl? I have many case as this girl (cadaveric or obese)...

 

You speak french? (many portugues lived in France).

 

Kinds regard.

 

 

PB.

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no she is thin, but very good looking,blue eyes,blond hair,typical sagitarian

inteligent expression.

 

paulo

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Patrice

Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:15 PM

Re: intelligence

 

 

The face? Circular (Moon Cancri) or Lanky (Mercury Gemini)? She's not

bulimic girl? I have many case as this girl (cadaveric or obese)...

 

You speak french? (many portugues lived in France).

 

Kinds regard.

 

PB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Paulo and Patrice.

 

 

 

 

 

I ran off her chart and got 14 degrees of Leo on the asc, Moon at 2 degrees

of Cancer. Patrice, why are we coming out with different things?

 

 

 

Well, anyhow, here's why she's exceptionally smart: Moon is Vergottama,

which means it's in the same sign in the natal and navamsa charts. Since

it's a good sign for the Moon anyway, Cancer, all the better. Then . in the

Navamsa chart Jupiter forms a strong trine to the Moon. Jupiter/Moon

aspects (trine, conjunction, and opposition) bode well for intelligence.

 

 

 

 

 

..Bettina

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of paulo mendes

Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:35 PM

 

Re: Re: intelligence

 

 

 

no she is thin, but very good looking,blue eyes,blond hair,typical

sagitarian inteligent expression.

 

paulo

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Patrice

@ <%40>

 

Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:15 PM

Re: intelligence

 

The face? Circular (Moon Cancri) or Lanky (Mercury Gemini)? She's not

bulimic girl? I have many case as this girl (cadaveric or obese)...

 

You speak french? (many portugues lived in France).

 

Kinds regard.

 

PB.

 

 

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Hi Patrice and Paulo,

 

I get 14 Leo rising with Moon at 2 Cancer.

 

Chris

 

On 11/9/06, paulo mendes <woodwater1000 wrote:

>

> no she is thin, but very good looking,blue eyes,blond hair,typical

> sagitarian inteligent expression.

>

> paulo

> -

> Patrice

> <%40>

> Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:15 PM

> Re: intelligence

>

> The face? Circular (Moon Cancri) or Lanky (Mercury Gemini)? She's not

> bulimic girl? I have many case as this girl (cadaveric or obese)...

>

> You speak french? (many portugues lived in France).

>

> Kinds regard.

>

> PB.

>

>

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Paulo .

 

 

 

 

 

I take back what I said about Jupiter being trine Moon in the Navamsa. They

form a square. But still, the Moon is Vergottama.

 

 

 

 

 

Bettna

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of paulo mendes

Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:35 PM

 

Re: Re: intelligence

 

 

 

no she is thin, but very good looking,blue eyes,blond hair,typical

sagitarian inteligent expression.

 

paulo

-

Patrice

@ <%40>

 

Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:15 PM

Re: intelligence

 

The face? Circular (Moon Cancri) or Lanky (Mercury Gemini)? She's not

bulimic girl? I have many case as this girl (cadaveric or obese)...

 

You speak french? (many portugues lived in France).

 

Kinds regard.

 

PB.

 

 

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Christopher .

 

 

 

 

 

That's what I got.

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Christopher Kevill

Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:29 PM

 

Re: Re: intelligence

 

 

 

Hi Patrice and Paulo,

 

I get 14 Leo rising with Moon at 2 Cancer.

 

Chris

 

On 11/9/06, paulo mendes <woodwater1000@ <woodwater1000%40clix.pt>

clix.pt> wrote:

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> no she is thin, but very good looking,blue eyes,blond hair,typical

> sagitarian inteligent expression.

>

> paulo

> -

> Patrice

> @ <%40>

<%40>

> Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:15 PM

> Re: intelligence

>

> The face? Circular (Moon Cancri) or Lanky (Mercury Gemini)? She's not

> bulimic girl? I have many case as this girl (cadaveric or obese)...

>

> You speak french? (many portugues lived in France).

>

> Kinds regard.

>

> PB.

>

>

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At 07:03 PM 11/9/06 -0000, Paulo wrote:

>she is extremely inteligent and is studying to be a psychiatric doctor

 

Paulo and all,

 

Yes, 14 Leo rises in the horoscope.

 

I've come to this discussion late, but I've studied academically gifted

charts (high performance) and published articles on these charts, and this

chart fits the pattern:

 

1) Mercury is strongly angular in its own mansion.

 

2) Mercury's dispositor is strong in an angle and conjunct Jupiter, the

dispositor of Sun/Neptune. As a matter of fact they are in the same degree,

and their dispositor is Saturn who is with Mercury. So there's a very

strong tie-in of Mercury-Saturn-Mars-Jupiter-Sun through dispositorship. If

you take Uranus as the dispositor of Jupiter/Mars, the pattern is the same

since Uranus is with Mercury and Saturn. There's a whole lotta' combined

energy there.

 

3) The Moon is vargottama as Bettina pointed out, but even more important

in the navamsa the Moon is with Neptune. I found either Neptune or Jupiter

conjoined or strongly aspecting the Moon in high performance charts.

 

But actually Mercury, which rules study and academics, is stronger than the

Moon since it's angular, and its dispositor is so strongly placed. The Moon

is comparitively weak in position in comparison. This will make the

logical/academic mind stronger than the emotions. In the natal chart the

Moon is rather out of the picture in relation to other planets.

 

4) There is a powerful stellium in the navamsa chart: Sun-Mars-Jupiter in

Aries, Mars and Jupiter being the conjoined dispositors of

Mercury-Saturn-Uranus-Sun-Neptune in the natal chart, and the Sun being the

ascendant lord.

 

5) The ascendant is vargottama.

 

Venus is the 10th lord in its own sign, and receives the angular trine from

Jupiter-Mars. Venus is also with the powerful navamsa stellium of

Sun-Mars-Jupter in Aries. This person's life should be a success if the

relevant dasas are running. The strongest yoga for success is 10th lord

Venus in trine to 5th lord Jupiter. 9th lord Mars also trines Venus, but

that trine is weaker than the trine from Jupiter, only half strength.

 

The entire chart (except the Moon) is very well tied together. There is a

disconnect between the Moon and Sun, so this is likely to make a lack of

connection with the emotional nature and perhaps the memory, the inner

spirit and will being stronger than the more surface emotions. These two

might battle it out sometimes, but the Sun is likely to win since it

receives so much support from the remainder of the chart.

 

This is a really excellent horoscope. A possible stumbling block is Pluto

with Venus (relationships), but Pluto isn't always active in a chart, so I

don't know how that would turn out. And Venus does receive the trine from

Jupiter in the 7th.

 

Therese

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Paulo,

 

Sagittarian intelligence, bof... I have many case of sagittarian born

december 18 with great psychologic difficult! Intelligence is the moon

and ascending, no sun...

 

Bettina,

 

Yes, Ascending (the physic) is in Leo in Magha Nakshatra in

conjunction with Regulus (royal beautiful)... It's an error of me...

Kethu is the lord of nakshatra. Kethu is in Virgo(thin).

 

Mercury/Saturn is always in " Ophiuccus " (medicine). Moon is always in

Gemini with real zodiac (Mercury). No change for intelligence analyze.

 

I understand now...

 

Sagittarian no exprim intelligence in 100%... Science is Saturn and

Mercury.

 

You can't exprim this analyze in tropical zodiac (no sens).

 

 

PB.

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Bettina,

 

" Bettina Woolard " <chiria

 

> I take back what I said about Jupiter being trine Moon in the Navamsa.

> They form a square. But still, the Moon is Vergottama.

 

I would keep the square. According to Morin de Villefranche a square is good

if it falls in one of it dignities.

 

What do you think?

 

--

Alex

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At 07:33 AM 11/10/06 -0000, Patrice wrote:

>Paulo,

 

>Mercury/Saturn is always in " Ophiuccus " (medicine)...

 

Only Uranus (among the Scorpio planets) is with a bright Ophiuchus

star--Rasalhague, alpha OPH. But Uranus disposits the powerful angular

Jupiter/Mars conjuction. Mercury/Saturn are with stars in Norma, the

carpenter's square. If symbolism holds, this would give a precise mind with

perhaps a mathematical slant. Ascendant lord Sun is with gamma Ophiuchus

and only 4 minutes from the Galactic Center.

 

Therese

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Hi Patrice,

 

I was wondering how you made the connection between Jyeshtha and medicine.

I have a few books that discuss naksahtra meanings and none of them mention

medicine.

 

Chris

 

 

On 11/10/06, Patrice <aartbouriche wrote:

>

> Paulo,

>

> Sagittarian intelligence, bof... I have many case of sagittarian born

> december 18 with great psychologic difficult! Intelligence is the moon

> and ascending, no sun...

>

> Bettina,

>

> Yes, Ascending (the physic) is in Leo in Magha Nakshatra in

> conjunction with Regulus (royal beautiful)... It's an error of me...

> Kethu is the lord of nakshatra. Kethu is in Virgo(thin).

>

> Mercury/Saturn is always in " Ophiuccus " (medicine). Moon is always in

> Gemini with real zodiac (Mercury). No change for intelligence analyze.

>

> I understand now...

>

> Sagittarian no exprim intelligence in 100%... Science is Saturn and

> Mercury.

>

> You can't exprim this analyze in tropical zodiac (no sens).

>

> PB.

>

>

>

 

 

 

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