Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hello dear MR. Karacan, You are right. Best wishes, - " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:47 PM Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Dear Professor and the list, I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler 8th conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. Am I right in this sense? Best wishes. Sinan Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Sinan, I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 degrees near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th and 8th. But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. Best wishes, VSW. - " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Dear Professor and the list, I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler 8th conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. Am I right in this sense? Best wishes. Sinan Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hello VSW, Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make one vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship problems. If it is near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health problems and the relationships. Best wishes, - " Vita S-W " <uttarashada Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > Hi Sinan, > > I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 > degrees > near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, > otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th > and 8th. > > But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > > Best wishes, VSW. > > > - > " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > Dear Professor and the list, > > I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler > 8th > conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > > In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, > death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, > theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > > Am I right in this sense? > > Best wishes. > > Sinan > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates > starting at 1¢/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi VSW, The close or exact associations made by planets in the natal chart show their effect regardless of distance to the MEP. The relevant subperiods bring their positive or negative significations to the forefront accordingly. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vita S-W " <uttarashada Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:28 AM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > Hi Sinan, > > I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 > degrees > near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, > otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th > and 8th. > > But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > > Best wishes, VSW. > > > - > " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > Dear Professor and the list, > > I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler > 8th > conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > > In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, > death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, > theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > > Am I right in this sense? > > Best wishes. > > Sinan > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates > starting at 1¢/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Vyas, Yes, I did know that the exact associations made by planets in the natal chart show their effect regardless of distance to the MEP but I thought Sinan was referring to the effects on the 1st house itself by the association of these 2 planets. In other words, I thought Sinan was enquiring about the effects of these 2 lords (6th and 8th) on the Ascendant only. Another question is that if 8th lord is 20 degrees away from 6th lord, would you say this negative association would still manifest itself during the dasa subperiods only by themselves? Best wishes, Vita. - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:40 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > Hi VSW, > > The close or exact associations made by planets in the natal chart show > their effect regardless of distance to the MEP. The relevant subperiods > bring their positive or negative significations to the forefront > accordingly. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:28 AM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> Hi Sinan, >> >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 >> degrees >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th >> and 8th. >> >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. >> >> Best wishes, VSW. >> >> >> - >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan >> >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >> >> >> Dear Professor and the list, >> >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler >> 8th >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. >> >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. >> >> Am I right in this sense? >> >> Best wishes. >> >> Sinan >> >> >> >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great >> rates >> starting at 1¢/min. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dear Professor, Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th lord is 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not near the MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the chart? The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th and 8th lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not near the MEP. Thanks again, Vita. - <siha Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > Hello VSW, > > Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make one > vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship problems. If it > is > near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health problems and > the relationships. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> Hi Sinan, >> >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 >> degrees >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th >> and 8th. >> >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. >> >> Best wishes, VSW. >> >> >> - >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan >> >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >> >> >> Dear Professor and the list, >> >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler >> 8th >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. >> >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. >> >> Am I right in this sense? >> >> Best wishes. >> >> Sinan >> >> >> >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great >> rates >> starting at 1¢/min. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Vita, " Another question is that if 8th lord is 20 degrees away from 6th lord, would you say this negative association would still manifest itself during the dasa subperiods only by themselves? " Nope, too wide. The independent strength and afflictions to and from the 6th or 8th lord would have to be assessed. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Vita S-W " <uttarashada Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:07 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > Hi Vyas, > > Yes, I did know that the exact associations made by planets in the natal > chart show their effect regardless of distance to the MEP but I thought > Sinan was referring to the effects on the 1st house itself by the > association of these 2 planets. In other words, I thought Sinan was > enquiring about the effects of these 2 lords (6th and 8th) on the > Ascendant > only. > > Another question is that if 8th lord is 20 degrees away from 6th lord, > would > you say this negative association would still manifest itself during the > dasa subperiods only by themselves? > > Best wishes, Vita. > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:40 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> Hi VSW, >> >> The close or exact associations made by planets in the natal chart show >> their effect regardless of distance to the MEP. The relevant subperiods >> bring their positive or negative significations to the forefront >> accordingly. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> - >> " Vita S-W " <uttarashada >> >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:28 AM >> Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >> >> >>> Hi Sinan, >>> >>> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 >>> degrees >>> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, >>> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the >>> 6th >>> and 8th. >>> >>> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. >>> >>> Best wishes, VSW. >>> >>> >>> - >>> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan >>> >>> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM >>> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >>> >>> >>> Dear Professor and the list, >>> >>> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler >>> 8th >>> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. >>> >>> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, >>> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, >>> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. >>> >>> Am I right in this sense? >>> >>> Best wishes. >>> >>> Sinan >>> >>> >>> >>> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great >>> rates >>> starting at 1¢/min. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi Vita As an aside and the Professor should confirm this but also whenever lord of H6 and H8 is in a malefic house, the individual is greatly subject to serious accidents especially if the indicators for longevity are weak. If you are accident prone, then this is probably why. search , " Vita S-W " <uttarashada wrote: > > Dear Professor, > > Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. > > I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th lord is > 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not near the > MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the chart? > > The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th and 8th > lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not near the > MEP. > > Thanks again, Vita. > > - > <siha > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > Hello VSW, > > > > Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make one > > vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship problems. If it > > is > > near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health problems and > > the relationships. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > - > > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > >> Hi Sinan, > >> > >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 > >> degrees > >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, > >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th > >> and 8th. > >> > >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > >> > >> Best wishes, VSW. > >> > >> > >> - > >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan > >> > >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > >> > >> > >> Dear Professor and the list, > >> > >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler > >> 8th > >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > >> > >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, > >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, > >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > >> > >> Am I right in this sense? > >> > >> Best wishes. > >> > >> Sinan > >> > >> > >> > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > >> rates > >> starting at 1¢/min. > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hi search, Thank you for your message but fortunately I am not more accident prone than anybody else. Best wishes, Vita. - " searchbutton " <searchbutton Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:25 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Hi Vita As an aside and the Professor should confirm this but also whenever lord of H6 and H8 is in a malefic house, the individual is greatly subject to serious accidents especially if the indicators for longevity are weak. If you are accident prone, then this is probably why. search , " Vita S-W " <uttarashada wrote: > > Dear Professor, > > Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. > > I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th lord is > 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not near the > MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the chart? > > The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th and 8th > lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not near the > MEP. > > Thanks again, Vita. > > - > <siha > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > Hello VSW, > > > > Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make one > > vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship problems. If it > > is > > near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health problems and > > the relationships. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > - > > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > >> Hi Sinan, > >> > >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 > >> degrees > >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, > >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th > >> and 8th. > >> > >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > >> > >> Best wishes, VSW. > >> > >> > >> - > >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan > >> > >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > >> > >> > >> Dear Professor and the list, > >> > >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler > >> 8th > >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > >> > >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, > >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, > >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > >> > >> Am I right in this sense? > >> > >> Best wishes. > >> > >> Sinan > >> > >> > >> > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > >> rates > >> starting at 1¢/min. > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dear Vyas, Thank you for your reply. It confirms my reasoning was correct. Best wishes, Vita. - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:36 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > Hi Vita, > > " Another question is that if 8th lord is 20 degrees away from 6th lord, > would > you say this negative association would still manifest itself during the > dasa subperiods only by themselves? " > > Nope, too wide. The independent strength and afflictions to and from the > 6th > or 8th lord would have to be assessed. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:07 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> Hi Vyas, >> >> Yes, I did know that the exact associations made by planets in the natal >> chart show their effect regardless of distance to the MEP but I thought >> Sinan was referring to the effects on the 1st house itself by the >> association of these 2 planets. In other words, I thought Sinan was >> enquiring about the effects of these 2 lords (6th and 8th) on the >> Ascendant >> only. >> >> Another question is that if 8th lord is 20 degrees away from 6th lord, >> would >> you say this negative association would still manifest itself during the >> dasa subperiods only by themselves? >> >> Best wishes, Vita. >> >> - >> " Vyas Munidas " <muni> >> >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:40 PM >> Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >> >> >>> Hi VSW, >>> >>> The close or exact associations made by planets in the natal chart show >>> their effect regardless of distance to the MEP. The relevant subperiods >>> bring their positive or negative significations to the forefront >>> accordingly. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Vyas Munidas >>> >>> >>> - >>> " Vita S-W " <uttarashada >>> >>> Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:28 AM >>> Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >>> >>> >>>> Hi Sinan, >>>> >>>> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 >>>> degrees >>>> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, >>>> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the >>>> 6th >>>> and 8th. >>>> >>>> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, VSW. >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan >>>> >>>> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM >>>> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Professor and the list, >>>> >>>> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler >>>> 8th >>>> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. >>>> >>>> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, >>>> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, >>>> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. >>>> >>>> Am I right in this sense? >>>> >>>> Best wishes. >>>> >>>> Sinan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great >>>> rates >>>> starting at 1¢/min. >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hello Vita, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Vita S-W " <uttarashada Friday, October 27, 2006 1:43 AM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > Dear Professor, > > Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. > > I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th lord is > 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not near the > MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the chart? > ONLY SHORT LIVED IMPACT CAN BE THERE DUE TO TRANSIT INFLUENCES. > The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th and 8th > lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not near the > MEP. IN SA CONJUNCTION IS EFFECTIVE ONLY IF CLOSE THAT IS WITHIN FIVE DEGREES. > > Thanks again, Vita. > > - > <siha > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> >> Hello VSW, >> >> Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make one >> vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship problems. If it >> is >> near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health problems and >> the relationships. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> - >> " Vita S-W " <uttarashada >> >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM >> Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >> >> >>> Hi Sinan, >>> >>> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 >>> degrees >>> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, >>> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the >>> 6th >>> and 8th. >>> >>> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. >>> >>> Best wishes, VSW. >>> >>> >>> - >>> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan >>> >>> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM >>> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st >>> >>> >>> Dear Professor and the list, >>> >>> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler >>> 8th >>> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. >>> >>> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, >>> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, >>> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. >>> >>> Am I right in this sense? >>> >>> Best wishes. >>> >>> Sinan >>> >>> >>> >>> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great >>> rates >>> starting at 1¢/min. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hello SB, 6L in 8th or 8L in 6th do make one vulnerable to accidents/mishaps/conflicts/cheating, etc. Best wishes, - " searchbutton " <searchbutton Friday, October 27, 2006 2:55 AM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Hi Vita As an aside and the Professor should confirm this but also whenever lord of H6 and H8 is in a malefic house, the individual is greatly subject to serious accidents especially if the indicators for longevity are weak. If you are accident prone, then this is probably why. search , " Vita S-W " <uttarashada wrote: > > Dear Professor, > > Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. > > I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th lord is > 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not near the > MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the chart? > > The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th and 8th > lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not near the > MEP. > > Thanks again, Vita. > > - > <siha > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > Hello VSW, > > > > Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make one > > vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship problems. If it > > is > > near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health problems and > > the relationships. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > - > > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > >> Hi Sinan, > >> > >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets conjoin 5 > >> degrees > >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to accidents, > >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations of the 6th > >> and 8th. > >> > >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > >> > >> Best wishes, VSW. > >> > >> > >> - > >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan > >> > >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > >> > >> > >> Dear Professor and the list, > >> > >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler > >> 8th > >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > >> > >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, > >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, > >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > >> > >> Am I right in this sense? > >> > >> Best wishes. > >> > >> Sinan > >> > >> > >> > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > >> rates > >> starting at 1¢/min. > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thank you Professor. Please explain if 6L or 8L in H12 also cause the same malefic harms. SB , <siha wrote: > > > Hello SB, > > 6L in 8th or 8L in 6th do make one vulnerable to > accidents/mishaps/conflicts/cheating, etc. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " searchbutton " <searchbutton > > Friday, October 27, 2006 2:55 AM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > Hi Vita > > As an aside and the Professor should confirm this but also whenever > lord of H6 and H8 is in a malefic house, the individual is greatly > subject to serious accidents especially if the indicators for > longevity are weak. If you are accident prone, then this is > probably why. > > search > > , " Vita S-W " <uttarashada@> wrote: > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. > > > > I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th > lord is > > 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not > near the > > MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the > chart? > > > > The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th > and 8th > > lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not > near the > > MEP. > > > > Thanks again, Vita. > > > > - > > <siha@> > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > > > > > Hello VSW, > > > > > > Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make > one > > > vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship > problems. If it > > > is > > > near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health > problems and > > > the relationships. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada@> > > > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM > > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > > > >> Hi Sinan, > > >> > > >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets > conjoin 5 > > >> degrees > > >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to > accidents, > > >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations > of the 6th > > >> and 8th. > > >> > > >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > > >> > > >> Best wishes, VSW. > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan@> > > >> > > >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > > >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> > > >> > > >> Dear Professor and the list, > > >> > > >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th > and ruler > > >> 8th > > >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > > >> > > >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to > accidents, > > >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to > health, > > >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > > >> > > >> Am I right in this sense? > > >> > > >> Best wishes. > > >> > > >> Sinan > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great > > >> rates > > >> starting at 1¢/min. > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hello SB, 6L in 12H causes bad health, losses through theft, cheating and fire etc. 8th Lord in 12H makes one vulnerable to problems in marriage, loss of assets, loss of inheritance, problems to father, etc. Best wishes, - " searchbutton " <searchbutton Friday, October 27, 2006 8:10 AM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Thank you Professor. Please explain if 6L or 8L in H12 also cause the same malefic harms. SB , <siha wrote: > > > Hello SB, > > 6L in 8th or 8L in 6th do make one vulnerable to > accidents/mishaps/conflicts/cheating, etc. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " searchbutton " <searchbutton > > Friday, October 27, 2006 2:55 AM > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > Hi Vita > > As an aside and the Professor should confirm this but also whenever > lord of H6 and H8 is in a malefic house, the individual is greatly > subject to serious accidents especially if the indicators for > longevity are weak. If you are accident prone, then this is > probably why. > > search > > , " Vita S-W " <uttarashada@> wrote: > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > Only got your message after sending my reply to Vyas. > > > > I understand your logic but would like to ask if, for example, 8th > lord is > > 20 degrees away from 6th lord, although in the same sign and not > near the > > MEP, do these 2 malefic lords cause any negative impact in the > chart? > > > > The reason I ask this has to do with the fact that I too have 6th > and 8th > > lord conjunct in 6th, although they are 20 degrees apart and not > near the > > MEP. > > > > Thanks again, Vita. > > > > - > > <siha@> > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:39 PM > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > > > > > Hello VSW, > > > > > > Mere conjunction of 6th and 8th lords anywhere in the chart make > one > > > vulnerable to accidents, severe health and relationship > problems. If it > > > is > > > near MEP of the ascendant then it is more serious for health > problems and > > > the relationships. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Vita S-W " <uttarashada@> > > > > > > Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM > > > Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > > > > > > > >> Hi Sinan, > > >> > > >> I think it depends on the degree (MEP). If these 2 planets > conjoin 5 > > >> degrees > > >> near the MEP (degree cusp) then the person is vulnerable to > accidents, > > >> otherwise I think he or she will enjoy the good significations > of the 6th > > >> and 8th. > > >> > > >> But hopeuly our Professor will let us know if we are correct. > > >> > > >> Best wishes, VSW. > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan@> > > >> > > >> Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:17 AM > > >> Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st > > >> > > >> > > >> Dear Professor and the list, > > >> > > >> I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th > and ruler > > >> 8th > > >> conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. > > >> > > >> In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to > accidents, > > >> death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to > health, > > >> theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. > > >> > > >> Am I right in this sense? > > >> > > >> Best wishes. > > >> > > >> Sinan > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great > > >> rates > > >> starting at 1¢/min. > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Hello dear Professor and members, I think the subject attracted positive attention. For those to analyse the concerned native's chart, I post his details below: April 12, 1957 4h35 a.m. Zone = 2 east dst=0 Istanbul 28e58 41n01 The native is a dentist, has a son, divorced twice, parents not alive, enjoyed reasonable inheritance. He comes from a well-known reputable family. His cousin is on the top of society news and known by love scandals. However, I have seen no chronical diseases, health problems, accidents, or so, except his son's over-weigth problem. This is very interesting... If you have comments, I appreciate it very much. Best wishes, Sinan siha wrote: Hello dear MR. Karacan, You are right. Best wishes, - " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:47 PM Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Dear Professor and the list, I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler 8th conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. Am I right in this sense? Best wishes. Sinan Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Hello Mr. Karacan, The problem to the son is seen through the badly placed Moon under the affliction of Ketu from the second house. As separately written sixth and 8th lords together disturb marital happiness and shows involvement in conflicts. The conjunction also makes the person vulnerable to severe health problems/accidents in the sub periods of the Sun and Venus. Best wishes, - " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:20 PM Re: Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Hello dear Professor and members, I think the subject attracted positive attention. For those to analyse the concerned native's chart, I post his details below: April 12, 1957 4h35 a.m. Zone = 2 east dst=0 Istanbul 28e58 41n01 The native is a dentist, has a son, divorced twice, parents not alive, enjoyed reasonable inheritance. He comes from a well-known reputable family. His cousin is on the top of society news and known by love scandals. However, I have seen no chronical diseases, health problems, accidents, or so, except his son's over-weigth problem. This is very interesting... If you have comments, I appreciate it very much. Best wishes, Sinan siha wrote: Hello dear MR. Karacan, You are right. Best wishes, - " Sinan Karacan " <sbkaracan Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:47 PM Ruler 6th with ruler 8th in the 1st Dear Professor and the list, I have encountered an interesting horoscope, where ruler 6th and ruler 8th conjoints perfectly in the 1st H. In such circumstances, I guess, the native is vulnerable to accidents, death-like situations, theft, fire and legal issues related to health, theft, fire, accidents and inheritance. Am I right in this sense? Best wishes. Sinan Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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