Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE GIVEN BELOW AQUAR ACS- 21 SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE MEP) VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN 8TH HOUSE. MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS EXCELLENT. THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED ASPCTING THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE AS JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR IS IN 9TH HOUSE. RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS . THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE AFFLICTED. JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H LORS VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD GET HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS MOON. SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM LOSS OF STATUS. COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO DOUBT SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS WHEN 1 PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH LORD VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS GOOD FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE WAS ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT GOOD. SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT CASE THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD FOR HIM . KINDLY CLARIFY . SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear Mr Arun Rao, You were not to be heard for the last one week. Today I saw you responding to some mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? Sadasivan . --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE GIVEN > > BELOW > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > MEP) > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > 8TH > HOUSE. > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS EXCELLENT. > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED ASPCTING > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > AS > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR IS > IN > 9TH HOUSE. > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS > . > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE AFFLICTED. > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H LORS > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > GET > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS MOON. > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM LOSS > > OF STATUS. > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO DOUBT > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS WHEN > 1 > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > LORD > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS GOOD > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE WAS > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > GOOD. > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT CASE > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD FOR > > HIM . > > KINDLY CLARIFY . > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, The middle to end of August is vacation time for many folks, including me. The supporting factors for Mr. Bachchan are: 1. Strong L1 Saturn, ruling the significations of longevity, happiness, personality, reputation, status, and the fulfillment of desires. Saturn becomes his prime determinant of profession. 2. Strong L1 Saturn closely influences the MEP of houses 4, 10, 6, and 1. The natal strength of L1 on top of its influence on the 1st and 10th houses bless him with enormous status, fame, honor, and power whenever its sub-period is running (of course transit influences have to be supporting as well). The influence on houses 4 and 6 is great for his material assets and will promote the soundness of his financial position. In light of the exact affliction to L6, Saturn's influence on MEP 6 is helpful to some degree. The main period of such a planet will reap many rewards to the native for sure. 3. The lord of the 8th house Mercury is also strong, except for periods where Rahu and Ketu afflict its natal position for a prolonged duration. The influence of the FB's Sun and Mars on Mercury magnify its results. L8 on MEP 8, in addition to the aforementioned good influences on it, is very powerful for easy gains, windfall gains, and inheritance. Such an individual will always benefit from other people's money, and their level of financial gains is usually indirectly proportionate to the level of effort they put forth. L8 influencing L7 Sun and L3 Mars is damaging for the significations of those planets/lords. L8 influencing MEP 2 can cause troubles for his status and accumulated wealth when the sub-period of Mercury is running. Mr. Bachchan re-entered the acting scene as a way of repaying some of the massive debts that were hanging over his head from his many unsuccessful business ventures (3rd lord afflicted, 6th lord afflicted). The soundness of his finances and level of accumulated wealth will indeed suffer, so he is clearly not as wealthy as what the average person may think. 4. Mercury is an additional prime determinant for profession, as it rules the ascendant of D-10. It is strong in the natal chart. 5. The Sun influences the MEP 2 and MEP 8, while Mars influences MEP 2, 8, 11, and 3 (very important as this is its MT-sign). These influences are helpful to him as well, albeit to a lesser extent in light of their weaknesses/affliction. 6. The important thing to understand in this chart is the role of the 8th house lord. I have observed that it acts as a funnel for bringing in other people's money (whether or not this is done legally or illegally). So the L3/L8 conjunction, while being adverse for success in his initiatives, will funnel other people's money into his ventures. Thus, he can coast on his past laurels and still get others to back him financially despite the fact that his own ventures tend to tank. Mr. Bachchan has faced many serious setbacks in the health and financial spheres, but he has been blessed with easy gains throughout. Controversies have followed him and his friends/colleagues as well (L11 in H6). So, influences should not be interpreted in black or white terms. Always keep in mind that the influence of the lord of the 8th house can manifest in different ways, and is not always a terrible influence in the long-run. My father has Aquarius ascendant with a strong Venus on MEP 10. During his Venus mahadasha, both he and his father were very much blessed. The entire chart has to be examined of course. From what I remember in your chart, L9 is utterly weak and your Sun is weak by placement. Ketu afflicts MEP 4 and 8, which tends to limit the financial success of one's father/parents. Best Wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: Dear Mr Arun Rao, You were not to be heard for the last one week. Today I saw you responding to some mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? Sadasivan . --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE GIVEN > > BELOW > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > MEP) > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > 8TH > HOUSE. > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS EXCELLENT. > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED ASPCTING > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > AS > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR IS > IN > 9TH HOUSE. > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS > . > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE AFFLICTED. > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H LORS > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > GET > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS MOON. > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM LOSS > > OF STATUS. > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO DOUBT > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS WHEN > 1 > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > LORD > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS GOOD > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE WAS > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > GOOD. > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT CASE > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD FOR > > HIM . > > KINDLY CLARIFY . > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 DEAR MR ARUN RAO, 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT HAPPEN ? 2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? 3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE 8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF AS PER SA? 4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA , OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN DASA IS IT ? IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY DEAR FRIEND . MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE 5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS ARE WEAK. I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. 5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS IN 12 TH ONLY. HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD JUPITER. BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . MOREOVER, I AM SAYING THAT THOUGH MY FATHER HAD VENUS IN THE 9TH HOUSE, BHUKTIS WERE BAD. BACHAN'S BHUKTIS ESPECIALLY SUN, MARS AND MERCURY SHOULD BE DAMAGING/THREATENING TO THE STATUS. DO YOU HONESTLY FEEL THAT THIS HOROSCOPE BELONGS TO A SUPERSTAR LIKE BACHAN ? 6) I FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG SOMEWHERE. DIFFERENT YARD STICKS FOR DIFF PEOPLE . KINDLY REVERT . SADASIVAN. --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > The middle to end of August is vacation time for > many folks, including me. > > The supporting factors for Mr. Bachchan are: > > 1. Strong L1 Saturn, ruling the significations of > longevity, happiness, personality, reputation, > status, and the fulfillment of desires. Saturn > becomes his prime determinant of profession. > > 2. Strong L1 Saturn closely influences the MEP of > houses 4, 10, 6, and 1. The natal strength of L1 on > top of its influence on the 1st and 10th houses > bless him with enormous status, fame, honor, and > power whenever its sub-period is running (of course > transit influences have to be supporting as well). > The influence on houses 4 and 6 is great for his > material assets and will promote the soundness of > his financial position. In light of the exact > affliction to L6, Saturn's influence on MEP 6 is > helpful to some degree. The main period of such a > planet will reap many rewards to the native for > sure. > > 3. The lord of the 8th house Mercury is also strong, > except for periods where Rahu and Ketu afflict its > natal position for a prolonged duration. The > influence of the FB's Sun and Mars on Mercury > magnify its results. L8 on MEP 8, in addition to the > aforementioned good influences on it, is very > powerful for easy gains, windfall gains, and > inheritance. Such an individual will always benefit > from other people's money, and their level of > financial gains is usually indirectly proportionate > to the level of effort they put forth. L8 > influencing L7 Sun and L3 Mars is damaging for the > significations of those planets/lords. L8 > influencing MEP 2 can cause troubles for his status > and accumulated wealth when the sub-period of > Mercury is running. Mr. Bachchan re-entered the > acting scene as a way of repaying some of the > massive debts that were hanging over his head from > his many unsuccessful business ventures (3rd lord > afflicted, 6th lord afflicted). The soundness of his > finances and level > of accumulated wealth will indeed suffer, so he is > clearly not as wealthy as what the average person > may think. > > 4. Mercury is an additional prime determinant for > profession, as it rules the ascendant of D-10. It is > strong in the natal chart. > > 5. The Sun influences the MEP 2 and MEP 8, while > Mars influences MEP 2, 8, 11, and 3 (very important > as this is its MT-sign). These influences are > helpful to him as well, albeit to a lesser extent in > light of their weaknesses/affliction. > > 6. The important thing to understand in this chart > is the role of the 8th house lord. I have observed > that it acts as a funnel for bringing in other > people's money (whether or not this is done legally > or illegally). So the L3/L8 conjunction, while being > adverse for success in his initiatives, will funnel > other people's money into his ventures. Thus, he can > coast on his past laurels and still get others to > back him financially despite the fact that his own > ventures tend to tank. > > Mr. Bachchan has faced many serious setbacks in the > health and financial spheres, but he has been > blessed with easy gains throughout. Controversies > have followed him and his friends/colleagues as well > (L11 in H6). > > So, influences should not be interpreted in black or > white terms. Always keep in mind that the influence > of the lord of the 8th house can manifest in > different ways, and is not always a terrible > influence in the long-run. > > My father has Aquarius ascendant with a strong Venus > on MEP 10. During his Venus mahadasha, both he and > his father were very much blessed. The entire chart > has to be examined of course. > > From what I remember in your chart, L9 is utterly > weak and your Sun is weak by placement. Ketu > afflicts MEP 4 and 8, which tends to limit the > financial success of one's father/parents. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: Dear Mr > Arun Rao, > > You were not to be heard for the last one > week. Today I saw you responding to some > mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? > > > Sadasivan . > > --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > <sadasivan_g > wrote: > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE > GIVEN > > > > BELOW > > > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > > > MEP) > > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > > 8TH > > HOUSE. > > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS > EXCELLENT. > > > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED > ASPCTING > > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > > > AS > > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR > IS > > IN > > 9TH HOUSE. > > > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF > STATUS > > . > > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > > > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE > AFFLICTED. > > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H > LORS > > > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > > GET > > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS > MOON. > > > > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM > LOSS > > > > OF STATUS. > > > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO > DOUBT > > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS > WHEN > > 1 > > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > > LORD > > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS > GOOD > > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE > WAS > > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > > GOOD. > > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > > > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT > CASE > > > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD > FOR > > > > HIM . > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, Replies are added in lower case below. Best Wishes, Arun DEAR MR ARUN RAO, 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT HAPPEN ? The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to some degree because of the good influences on the planet. In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy gains blossomed. Sex appeal is another factor that can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th lord, even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely influenced by the lord of the 7th house. Because Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit influences can have a larger negative impact on the native. In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many rumors and even some eyewitness accounts that put his marital fidelity in question. The sub-period of Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and its influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 has to be accounted for as well. The Sun is the planet of highest status, and even though weak and afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the MEP of the 2nd house. Yet his marriage has remained in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises along the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th house. In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered a life threatening accident while performing a stunt, and was practically on his death bed. His exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong Saturn protected his longevity while the other difficult influences triggered the unfortunate event. Soon after this he forayed into politics during the sub-period of Rahu, which proved to be disastrous. The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th house in close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. Rahu is placed in the royal sign Leo, which enhances political inclinations. From my knowledge he was implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) along with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film industry, but his films performed miserably at the box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is good to some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant weakness, success was hard to come by. So while there were so many controversies and even near-death experiences, the significations of fame, prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy gains, and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and the good influences on the 2nd house to some degree) flourished during the MD of Saturn-- especially so in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury themselves. 2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period of Mercury, his films continued to perform poorly. L8’s sub-period would have been good for easy gains but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit influences need to be examined carefully. Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company struggled mightily and incurred enormous debts. He major litigation issues from his creditors, who obviously wanted their due. 3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE 8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF AS PER SA? Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th house is very much helpful for easy gains in life, inheritance, legacies, and windfall gains. The general and particular significations of Sun and Mars do indeed suffer in this chart, as do those of the Moon. However, a balancing of weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good influences is needed to be able to get the right picture. During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial ruin but based on his powerful connections, name, and fame, has still benefited to some degree. Again, the signification of easy gains is auspiciously influenced by 3 planets (Sun, Mars, Mercury). 4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA , OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN DASA IS IT ? If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is very strong and giving good influences in the chart, then yes it is possible. For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime determinant of profession. Taurus is an affluent sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes him relatable and liked by the masses. IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY DEAR FRIEND . Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of Mercury were very powerful for profession, career, fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE 5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS ARE WEAK. Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better for you than most likely any other MD you will ever have. Get the most out of it while it lasts. I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like most others. Bhukthi lords have never been ignored. If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn during the prime of his life, he would be nowhere near where he is today. That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good poorvapunya). 5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS IN 12 TH ONLY. Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations have to face losses. HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD JUPITER. Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember correctly and it may even be combust (I may be wrong here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb of 5 degrees it will help to some degree. The influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but the general significations of Mars remain hopelessly weak. BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . I only brought this up because you mentioned your father in your previous message, and I just happened to think of what your own chart indicated in this regard. Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their parents' financial status, especially the father’s. Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s parents and for their finances. A strong 2nd house is good for birth in a well-to-do family as well. For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 are good for the father, but the other parental wealth/status indicators are not strong since: (i) L9 is utterly weak (ii) Ketu from H12 afflicts MEP 4 and 8 (iii) The lord of the 2nd house is placed in the house of losses, while the MEP of the 2nd is under the close influence of Rahu from the 6th house. If I have erred in any of the above, please understand that it is merely a limitation of my memory. MOREOVER, I AM SAYING THAT THOUGH MY FATHER HAD VENUS IN THE 9TH HOUSE, BHUKTIS WERE BAD. BACHAN'S BHUKTIS ESPECIALLY SUN, MARS AND MERCURY SHOULD BE DAMAGING/THREATENING TO THE STATUS. Refer to the earlier replies. DO YOU HONESTLY FEEL THAT THIS HOROSCOPE BELONGS TO A SUPERSTAR LIKE BACHAN ? In light of his strong houses 1, 4, 8, and 10 and the operation of the strong Saturn and Mercury main-periods, yes I do think the horoscope has validity. 6) I FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG SOMEWHERE. DIFFERENT YARD STICKS FOR DIFF PEOPLE . When analyzed without prejudice, this chart shows a very large capacity for substantial rise in life thanks to the main-period of strong L1 and professional determinant planet Saturn. However, the native will be plagued by all kinds of scandals, ill health, insolvency, conflicts, and losses along the way. Mr. Bachchan has had a long-terms battle with a very serious neuromuscular disease as well. Afflicted Mars, Sun, Moon, L3, and L6 indicate this. He also suffers from asthma. The lord of the 3rd house is afflicted and badly placed. The exactly afflicted L6 and Moon, a significator for financial solvency as well, drastically endanger his financial position. Yet Saturn makes him a superstar along with the easy gains provided by Mercury. KINDLY REVERT . SADASIVAN. --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > The middle to end of August is vacation time for > many folks, including me. > > The supporting factors for Mr. Bachchan are: > > 1. Strong L1 Saturn, ruling the significations of > longevity, happiness, personality, reputation, > status, and the fulfillment of desires. Saturn > becomes his prime determinant of profession. > > 2. Strong L1 Saturn closely influences the MEP of > houses 4, 10, 6, and 1. The natal strength of L1 on > top of its influence on the 1st and 10th houses > bless him with enormous status, fame, honor, and > power whenever its sub-period is running (of course > transit influences have to be supporting as well). > The influence on houses 4 and 6 is great for his > material assets and will promote the soundness of > his financial position. In light of the exact > affliction to L6, Saturn's influence on MEP 6 is > helpful to some degree. The main period of such a > planet will reap many rewards to the native for > sure. > > 3. The lord of the 8th house Mercury is also strong, > except for periods where Rahu and Ketu afflict its > natal position for a prolonged duration. The > influence of the FB's Sun and Mars on Mercury > magnify its results. L8 on MEP 8, in addition to the > aforementioned good influences on it, is very > powerful for easy gains, windfall gains, and > inheritance. Such an individual will always benefit > from other people's money, and their level of > financial gains is usually indirectly proportionate > to the level of effort they put forth. L8 > influencing L7 Sun and L3 Mars is damaging for the > significations of those planets/lords. L8 > influencing MEP 2 can cause troubles for his status > and accumulated wealth when the sub-period of > Mercury is running. Mr. Bachchan re-entered the > acting scene as a way of repaying some of the > massive debts that were hanging over his head from > his many unsuccessful business ventures (3rd lord > afflicted, 6th lord afflicted). The soundness of his > finances and level > of accumulated wealth will indeed suffer, so he is > clearly not as wealthy as what the average person > may think. > > 4. Mercury is an additional prime determinant for > profession, as it rules the ascendant of D-10. It is > strong in the natal chart. > > 5. The Sun influences the MEP 2 and MEP 8, while > Mars influences MEP 2, 8, 11, and 3 (very important > as this is its MT-sign). These influences are > helpful to him as well, albeit to a lesser extent in > light of their weaknesses/affliction. > > 6. The important thing to understand in this chart > is the role of the 8th house lord. I have observed > that it acts as a funnel for bringing in other > people's money (whether or not this is done legally > or illegally). So the L3/L8 conjunction, while being > adverse for success in his initiatives, will funnel > other people's money into his ventures. Thus, he can > coast on his past laurels and still get others to > back him financially despite the fact that his own > ventures tend to tank. > > Mr. Bachchan has faced many serious setbacks in the > health and financial spheres, but he has been > blessed with easy gains throughout. Controversies > have followed him and his friends/colleagues as well > (L11 in H6). > > So, influences should not be interpreted in black or > white terms. Always keep in mind that the influence > of the lord of the 8th house can manifest in > different ways, and is not always a terrible > influence in the long-run. > > My father has Aquarius ascendant with a strong Venus > on MEP 10. During his Venus mahadasha, both he and > his father were very much blessed. The entire chart > has to be examined of course. > > From what I remember in your chart, L9 is utterly > weak and your Sun is weak by placement. Ketu > afflicts MEP 4 and 8, which tends to limit the > financial success of one's father/parents. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: Dear Mr > Arun Rao, > > You were not to be heard for the last one > week. Today I saw you responding to some > mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? > > > Sadasivan . > > --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > <sadasivan_g > wrote: > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE > GIVEN > > > > BELOW > > > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > > > MEP) > > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > > 8TH > > HOUSE. > > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS > EXCELLENT. > > > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED > ASPCTING > > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > > > AS > > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR > IS > > IN > > 9TH HOUSE. > > > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF > STATUS > > . > > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > > > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE > AFFLICTED. > > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H > LORS > > > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > > GET > > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS > MOON. > > > > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM > LOSS > > > > OF STATUS. > > > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO > DOUBT > > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS > WHEN > > 1 > > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > > LORD > > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS > GOOD > > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE > WAS > > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > > GOOD. > > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > > > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT > CASE > > > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD > FOR > > > > HIM . > === message truncated === How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 DEAR MR RAO, DOES THE EFFECT OF A MMF COMES DOWN IN CASE IT IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH 2 MBFS. OR IS THAT MMF IS A MMF ONLY AND MBFS WILL SUFFER ? 2) WHEN WE ARE MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR 10 YEARS OR SO , I MEAN FOR EVERY ONE, WE HAVE TO FIRST SEE THE MAHADASA LORD . THEN GO STEP BY STEP ON THE BHUKTI LORDS. BHUKTI LORDS HOUSE , OWNERSHIP, PLACEMENT AND SIGNIFICANCE. 3) IF DASA LORD AND BHUKTI LORD ARE IN 6,8,12 POSITIONS THEN IT IS BAD ISNT IT ? 4)I AM RUNNING JUPITER DASA VENUS BHUKTI TILL DEC 06. THEN COMES SUN BHUKTI . SUN IS IN 12TH HOUSE. JUP AND SUN ARE IN 6 8 POSITION. BHUKTI OF SUN SHOULD LEAD TO FOLLOWING PROBLEMS 1) LOSS OF HEALTH 2) LOSS OF FATHER'S HEALTH 5) NEXT IS MOON BHUKTI. OUTSIDE MEP. IN THE 10TH HOUSE. EVENTS ARE - 1) A VISIT ABROAD PROFESSIONALLY . 2) DEPRESSION . MOON IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATE WITH SATURN. MOON AND JUP ARE IN 6-8 POSITION. KINDLY REVERT WHETHER I AM CORRECT SADASIVAN. --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Replies are added in lower case below. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, > SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT > HAPPEN ? > > The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to > some degree because of the good influences on the > planet. > > In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy > gains blossomed. Sex appeal is another factor that > can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th lord, > even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely > influenced by the lord of the 7th house. Because > Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit influences can > have a larger negative impact on the native. > > In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many > rumors and even some eyewitness accounts that put > his marital fidelity in question. The sub-period of > Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and > its influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 > has to be accounted for as well. The Sun is the > planet of highest status, and even though weak and > afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the > MEP of the 2nd house. Yet his marriage has remained > in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises along > the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th > house. > > In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered > a life threatening accident while performing a > stunt, and was practically on his death bed. His > exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong > Saturn protected his longevity while the other > difficult influences triggered the unfortunate > event. > > Soon after this he forayed into politics during the > sub-period of Rahu, which proved to be disastrous. > The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th house in > close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. > Rahu is placed in the royal sign Leo, which enhances > political inclinations. From my knowledge he was > implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) > along with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. > > During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film > industry, but his films performed miserably at the > box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is good to > some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant > weakness, success was hard to come by. > > So while there were so many controversies and even > near-death experiences, the significations of fame, > prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy gains, > and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and > the good influences on the 2nd house to some degree) > flourished during the MD of Saturn-- especially so > in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury themselves. > > 2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY > BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN > DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? > > During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period > of Mercury, his films continued to perform poorly. > L8’s sub-period would have been good for easy gains > but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit > influences need to be examined carefully. > > Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company > struggled mightily and incurred enormous debts. He > major litigation issues from his creditors, who > obviously wanted their due. > > 3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE > 8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION > OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE > WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF > AS PER SA? > > Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th > house is very much helpful for easy gains in life, > inheritance, legacies, and windfall gains. > > The general and particular significations of Sun and > Mars do indeed suffer in this chart, as do those of > the Moon. However, a balancing of > weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good > influences is needed to be able to get the right > picture. > > During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial > ruin but based on his powerful connections, name, > and fame, has still benefited to some degree. > > Again, the signification of easy gains is > auspiciously influenced by 3 planets (Sun, Mars, > Mercury). > > 4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN > WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA > , OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI > LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN > DASA IS IT ? > > If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is > very strong and giving good influences in the chart, > then yes it is possible. > > For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime > determinant of profession. Taurus is an affluent > sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes > him relatable and liked by the masses. > > IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY > DEAR FRIEND . > > Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. > > MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of > Mercury were very powerful for profession, career, > fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed > persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. > > MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE > 5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN > THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. > I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY > MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS > ARE WEAK. > > Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better > for you than most likely any other MD you will ever > have. > > Get the most out of it while it lasts. > > I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC > BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT > TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. > > I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like > most others. Bhukthi lords have never been ignored. > > If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn > during the prime of his life, he would be nowhere > near where he is today. > > That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good > poorvapunya). > > 5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS > IN 12 TH ONLY. > > Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations > have to face losses. > > HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN > THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD > JUPITER. > > Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember > correctly and it may even be combust (I may be wrong > here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the > aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb > of 5 degrees it will help to some degree. The > influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be > helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but > the general significations of Mars remain hopelessly > weak. > > BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY > HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . > > I only brought this up because you mentioned your > father in your previous message, and I just happened > to think of what your own chart indicated in this > regard. > > Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their > parents' financial status, especially the father’s. > > Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s > parents and for their finances. A strong 2nd house > is good for birth in a well-to-do family as well. > > For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of > strong Jupiter on MEP 9 are good for the father, but > the === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopakrishnan, If you could, please post your chart details again. I don't think it's wise of me to interpret on the sole basis of my memory. Best Wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR RAO, DOES THE EFFECT OF A MMF COMES DOWN IN CASE IT IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH 2 MBFS. OR IS THAT MMF IS A MMF ONLY AND MBFS WILL SUFFER ? 2) WHEN WE ARE MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR 10 YEARS OR SO , I MEAN FOR EVERY ONE, WE HAVE TO FIRST SEE THE MAHADASA LORD . THEN GO STEP BY STEP ON THE BHUKTI LORDS. BHUKTI LORDS HOUSE , OWNERSHIP, PLACEMENT AND SIGNIFICANCE. 3) IF DASA LORD AND BHUKTI LORD ARE IN 6,8,12 POSITIONS THEN IT IS BAD ISNT IT ? 4)I AM RUNNING JUPITER DASA VENUS BHUKTI TILL DEC 06. THEN COMES SUN BHUKTI . SUN IS IN 12TH HOUSE. JUP AND SUN ARE IN 6 8 POSITION. BHUKTI OF SUN SHOULD LEAD TO FOLLOWING PROBLEMS 1) LOSS OF HEALTH 2) LOSS OF FATHER'S HEALTH 5) NEXT IS MOON BHUKTI. OUTSIDE MEP. IN THE 10TH HOUSE. EVENTS ARE - 1) A VISIT ABROAD PROFESSIONALLY . 2) DEPRESSION . MOON IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATE WITH SATURN. MOON AND JUP ARE IN 6-8 POSITION. KINDLY REVERT WHETHER I AM CORRECT SADASIVAN. --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Replies are added in lower case below. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, > SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT > HAPPEN ? > > The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to > some degree because of the good influences on the > planet. > > In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy > gains blossomed. Sex appeal is another factor that > can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th lord, > even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely > influenced by the lord of the 7th house. Because > Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit influences can > have a larger negative impact on the native. > > In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many > rumors and even some eyewitness accounts that put > his marital fidelity in question. The sub-period of > Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and > its influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 > has to be accounted for as well. The Sun is the > planet of highest status, and even though weak and > afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the > MEP of the 2nd house. Yet his marriage has remained > in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises along > the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th > house. > > In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered > a life threatening accident while performing a > stunt, and was practically on his death bed. His > exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong > Saturn protected his longevity while the other > difficult influences triggered the unfortunate > event. > > Soon after this he forayed into politics during the > sub-period of Rahu, which proved to be disastrous. > The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th house in > close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. > Rahu is placed in the royal sign Leo, which enhances > political inclinations. From my knowledge he was > implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) > along with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. > > During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film > industry, but his films performed miserably at the > box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is good to > some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant > weakness, success was hard to come by. > > So while there were so many controversies and even > near-death experiences, the significations of fame, > prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy gains, > and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and > the good influences on the 2nd house to some degree) > flourished during the MD of Saturn-- especially so > in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury themselves. > > 2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY > BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN > DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? > > During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period > of Mercury, his films continued to perform poorly. > L8’s sub-period would have been good for easy gains > but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit > influences need to be examined carefully. > > Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company > struggled mightily and incurred enormous debts. He > major litigation issues from his creditors, who > obviously wanted their due. > > 3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE > 8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION > OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE > WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF > AS PER SA? > > Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th > house is very much helpful for easy gains in life, > inheritance, legacies, and windfall gains. > > The general and particular significations of Sun and > Mars do indeed suffer in this chart, as do those of > the Moon. However, a balancing of > weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good > influences is needed to be able to get the right > picture. > > During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial > ruin but based on his powerful connections, name, > and fame, has still benefited to some degree. > > Again, the signification of easy gains is > auspiciously influenced by 3 planets (Sun, Mars, > Mercury). > > 4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN > WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA > , OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI > LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN > DASA IS IT ? > > If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is > very strong and giving good influences in the chart, > then yes it is possible. > > For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime > determinant of profession. Taurus is an affluent > sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes > him relatable and liked by the masses. > > IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY > DEAR FRIEND . > > Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. > > MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of > Mercury were very powerful for profession, career, > fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed > persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. > > MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE > 5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN > THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. > I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY > MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS > ARE WEAK. > > Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better > for you than most likely any other MD you will ever > have. > > Get the most out of it while it lasts. > > I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC > BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT > TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. > > I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like > most others. Bhukthi lords have never been ignored. > > If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn > during the prime of his life, he would be nowhere > near where he is today. > > That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good > poorvapunya). > > 5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS > IN 12 TH ONLY. > > Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations > have to face losses. > > HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN > THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD > JUPITER. > > Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember > correctly and it may even be combust (I may be wrong > here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the > aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb > of 5 degrees it will help to some degree. The > influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be > helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but > the general significations of Mars remain hopelessly > weak. > > BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY > HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . > > I only brought this up because you mentioned your > father in your previous message, and I just happened > to think of what your own chart indicated in this > regard. > > Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their > parents' financial status, especially the father’s. > > Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s > parents and for their finances. A strong 2nd house > is good for birth in a well-to-do family as well. > > For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of > strong Jupiter on MEP 9 are good for the father, but > the === message truncated === Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, I found your chart details in a previous message, so there's no need to post them again. Replies are below in lower case. Best Wishes, Arun DEAR MR RAO, DOES THE EFFECT OF A MMF COMES DOWN IN CASE IT IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH 2 MBFS. OR IS THAT MMF IS A MMF ONLY AND MBFS WILL SUFFER ? Yes the impact can come down to some extent. However, in the case of Mr. Bachchan, Mercury’s influence on MEP 2 should still be termed as an affliction, albeit one having lesser impact. The planets Sun and Mars suffer as a result of their association with MMP Mercury. However, Mercury itself benefits quite substantially and so its own significations become very powerful (except during malefic stationary influences on it). His 8th house itself becomes very strong, and has helped him get back on his feet from a financial standpoint in spite of the other challenges that are seen. Keep in mind that the influence of the 8th house lord, while creating many obstructions and death-like experiences for the planets concerned, can also give access to other people’s funds. This significations of the lord of the 3rd house are impeded substantially, but the 8th lord’s influence gives opportunities to use other people’s funds. However, it will be very difficult for AB to find success in his own ventures. 2) WHEN WE ARE MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR 10 YEARS OR SO , I MEAN FOR EVERY ONE, WE HAVE TO FIRST SEE THE MAHADASA LORD . THEN GO STEP BY STEP ON THE BHUKTI LORDS. BHUKTI LORDS HOUSE , OWNERSHIP, PLACEMENT AND SIGNIFICANCE. Mahadasha lord sets the broader trend based on strength, functional nature, influences on it, and the influences it makes on other planets/houses. Sub-period lord rules the immediate time-frame based on what you’ve mentioned. The transits are studied in concert with the tendencies of the sub-period lord to see if things are to be amplified for the time being. 3) IF DASA LORD AND BHUKTI LORD ARE IN 6,8,12 POSITIONS THEN IT IS BAD ISNT IT ? There is no relevance of this in SA. Everything is based on placement, functional nature, strength (mainly in rasi, but also check the divisional charts as back up), and close influences. Close influences can magnify the results even if planets are weak. However those weak natal planets are affected for longer durations during transit to natal afflictions and can cause delays. 4)I AM RUNNING JUPITER DASA VENUS BHUKTI TILL DEC 06. THEN COMES SUN BHUKTI . SUN IS IN 12TH HOUSE. JUP AND SUN ARE IN 6 8 POSITION. BHUKTI OF SUN SHOULD LEAD TO FOLLOWING PROBLEMS Current time is difficult because the nodes are aspecting their natal positions within an orb of 2 degrees and have turned stationary. Propitiations of Rahu and Ketu are recommended. It seems that you may be involved in foreign job assignments during the sub-periods of Sun and Moon. 1) LOSS OF HEALTH This is possible. However strong Jupiter influences the MEP of the ascendant, which protects things to a good extent. 2) LOSS OF FATHER'S HEALTH Some trouble for the father is possible. 5) NEXT IS MOON BHUKTI. OUTSIDE MEP. IN THE 10TH HOUSE. EVENTS ARE - 1) A VISIT ABROAD PROFESSIONALLY . Yes. This is strongly indicated as L7/L12 are closely conjunct in the 10th house. 2) DEPRESSION . MOON IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATE WITH SATURN. MOON AND JUP ARE IN 6-8 POSITION. This is also possible, but not for the reasons given. Sakata yoga or any of the lunar yogas is irrelevant. Moon’s influence on Saturn may cause some trouble for the spouse, and some type of separation is possible (think of what may happen for some time if a foreign job assignment is undertaken). The nodes influence the Moon’s mooltrikona MEP, so there can be difficulties for you during this time surrounding the significations of the 12th house. This includes the signification of mental peace. However, the influence of L7 can take you to foreign places. Propitiation of Moon, Rahu, and Ketu is recommended. KINDLY REVERT WHETHER I AM CORRECT SADASIVAN. --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Replies are added in lower case below. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, > SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT > HAPPEN ? > > The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to > some degree because of the good influences on the > planet. > > In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy > gains blossomed. Sex appeal is another factor that > can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th lord, > even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely > influenced by the lord of the 7th house. Because > Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit influences can > have a larger negative impact on the native. > > In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many > rumors and even some eyewitness accounts that put > his marital fidelity in question. The sub-period of > Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and > its influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 > has to be accounted for as well. The Sun is the > planet of highest status, and even though weak and > afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the > MEP of the 2nd house. Yet his marriage has remained > in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises along > the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th > house. > > In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered > a life threatening accident while performing a > stunt, and was practically on his death bed. His > exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong > Saturn protected his longevity while the other > difficult influences triggered the unfortunate > event. > > Soon after this he forayed into politics during the > sub-period of Rahu, which proved to be disastrous. > The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th house in > close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. > Rahu is placed in the royal sign Leo, which enhances > political inclinations. From my knowledge he was > implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) > along with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. > > During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film > industry, but his films performed miserably at the > box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is good to > some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant > weakness, success was hard to come by. > > So while there were so many controversies and even > near-death experiences, the significations of fame, > prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy gains, > and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and > the good influences on the 2nd house to some degree) > flourished during the MD of Saturn-- especially so > in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury themselves. > > 2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY > BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN > DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? > > During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period > of Mercury, his films continued to perform poorly. > L8’s sub-period would have been good for easy gains > but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit > influences need to be examined carefully. > > Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company > struggled mightily and incurred enormous debts. He > major litigation issues from his creditors, who > obviously wanted their due. > > 3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE > 8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION > OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE > WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF > AS PER SA? > > Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th > house is very much helpful for easy gains in life, > inheritance, legacies, and windfall gains. > > The general and particular significations of Sun and > Mars do indeed suffer in this chart, as do those of > the Moon. However, a balancing of > weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good > influences is needed to be able to get the right > picture. > > During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial > ruin but based on his powerful connections, name, > and fame, has still benefited to some degree. > > Again, the signification of easy gains is > auspiciously influenced by 3 planets (Sun, Mars, > Mercury). > > 4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN > WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA > , OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI > LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN > DASA IS IT ? > > If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is > very strong and giving good influences in the chart, > then yes it is possible. > > For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime > determinant of profession. Taurus is an affluent > sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes > him relatable and liked by the masses. > > IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY > DEAR FRIEND . > > Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. > > MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of > Mercury were very powerful for profession, career, > fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed > persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. > > MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE > 5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN > THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. > I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY > MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS > ARE WEAK. > > Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better > for you than most likely any other MD you will ever > have. > > Get the most out of it while it lasts. > > I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC > BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT > TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. > > I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like > most others. Bhukthi lords have never been ignored. > > If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn > during the prime of his life, he would be nowhere > near where he is today. > > That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good > poorvapunya). > > 5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS > IN 12 TH ONLY. > > Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations > have to face losses. > > HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN > THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD > JUPITER. > > Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember > correctly and it may even be combust (I may be wrong > here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the > aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb > of 5 degrees it will help to some degree. The > influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be > helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but > the general significations of Mars remain hopelessly > weak. > > BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY > HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . > > I only brought this up because you mentioned your > father in your previous message, and I just happened > to think of what your own chart indicated in this > regard. > > Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their > parents' financial status, especially the father’s. > > Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s > parents and for their finances. A strong 2nd house > is good for birth in a well-to-do family as well. > > For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of > strong Jupiter on MEP 9 are good for the father, but > the === message truncated === Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. 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Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 DEAR MR ARUN RAO, Thanks a lot for the analysis.My doubts have been clarified to a large extent. Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > I found your chart details in a previous message, so > there's no need to post them again. > > Replies are below in lower case. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > DEAR MR RAO, > > DOES THE EFFECT OF A MMF COMES DOWN IN CASE > IT IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH 2 MBFS. OR IS > THAT MMF IS A MMF ONLY AND MBFS WILL SUFFER ? > > Yes the impact can come down to some extent. > However, in the case of Mr. Bachchan, Mercury’s > influence on MEP 2 should still be termed as an > affliction, albeit one having lesser impact. > > The planets Sun and Mars suffer as a result of their > association with MMP Mercury. However, Mercury > itself benefits quite substantially and so its own > significations become very powerful (except during > malefic stationary influences on it). His 8th house > itself becomes very strong, and has helped him get > back on his feet from a financial standpoint in > spite of the other challenges that are seen. > > Keep in mind that the influence of the 8th house > lord, while creating many obstructions and > death-like experiences for the planets concerned, > can also give access to other people’s funds. This > significations of the lord of the 3rd house are > impeded substantially, but the 8th lord’s influence > gives opportunities to use other people’s funds. > However, it will be very difficult for AB to find > success in his own ventures. > > 2) WHEN WE ARE MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR 10 YEARS > OR SO , I MEAN FOR EVERY ONE, WE HAVE TO > FIRST SEE THE MAHADASA LORD . THEN GO STEP BY > STEP ON THE BHUKTI LORDS. BHUKTI LORDS HOUSE , > OWNERSHIP, PLACEMENT AND SIGNIFICANCE. > > Mahadasha lord sets the broader trend based on > strength, functional nature, influences on it, and > the influences it makes on other planets/houses. > Sub-period lord rules the immediate time-frame based > on what you’ve mentioned. The transits are studied > in concert with the tendencies of the sub-period > lord to see if things are to be amplified for the > time being. > > 3) IF DASA LORD AND BHUKTI LORD ARE IN 6,8,12 > POSITIONS THEN IT IS BAD ISNT IT ? > > There is no relevance of this in SA. Everything is > based on placement, functional nature, strength > (mainly in rasi, but also check the divisional > charts as back up), and close influences. Close > influences can magnify the results even if planets > are weak. However those weak natal planets are > affected for longer durations during transit to > natal afflictions and can cause delays. > > 4)I AM RUNNING JUPITER DASA VENUS BHUKTI TILL DEC > 06. THEN COMES SUN BHUKTI . SUN IS IN 12TH > HOUSE. JUP AND SUN ARE IN 6 8 POSITION. BHUKTI > OF SUN SHOULD LEAD TO FOLLOWING PROBLEMS > > Current time is difficult because the nodes are > aspecting their natal positions within an orb of 2 > degrees and have turned stationary. Propitiations of > Rahu and Ketu are recommended. > > It seems that you may be involved in foreign job > assignments during the sub-periods of Sun and Moon. > > 1) LOSS OF HEALTH > > This is possible. However strong Jupiter influences > the MEP of the ascendant, which protects things to a > good extent. > > 2) LOSS OF FATHER'S HEALTH > > Some trouble for the father is possible. > > 5) NEXT IS MOON BHUKTI. OUTSIDE MEP. IN THE 10TH > HOUSE. > EVENTS ARE - > > 1) A VISIT ABROAD PROFESSIONALLY . > > Yes. This is strongly indicated as L7/L12 are > closely conjunct in the 10th house. > > 2) DEPRESSION . MOON IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATE WITH > SATURN. > MOON AND JUP ARE IN 6-8 POSITION. > > This is also possible, but not for the reasons > given. Sakata yoga or any of the lunar yogas is > irrelevant. Moon’s influence on Saturn may cause > some trouble for the spouse, and some type of > separation is possible (think of what may happen for > some time if a foreign job assignment is > undertaken). The nodes influence the Moon’s > mooltrikona MEP, so there can be difficulties for > you during this time surrounding the significations > of the 12th house. This includes the signification > of mental peace. However, the influence of L7 can > take you to foreign places. > > Propitiation of Moon, Rahu, and Ketu is recommended. > > > KINDLY REVERT WHETHER I AM CORRECT > > SADASIVAN. > > > > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > Replies are added in lower case below. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > > > 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, > > SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT > > HAPPEN ? > > > > The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder > to > > some degree because of the good influences on the > > planet. > > > > In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of > easy > > gains blossomed. Sex appeal is another factor > that > > can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th lord, > > even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are > closely > > influenced by the lord of the 7th house. Because > > Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit influences > can > > have a larger negative impact on the native. > > > > In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many > > rumors and even some eyewitness accounts that put > > his marital fidelity in question. The sub-period > of > > Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, > and > > its influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and > H2 > > has to be accounted for as well. The Sun is the > > planet of highest status, and even though weak > and > > afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the > > MEP of the 2nd house. Yet his marriage has > remained > > in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises > along > > the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th > > house. > > > > In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he > suffered > > a life threatening accident while performing a > > stunt, and was practically on his death bed. His > > exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and > strong > > Saturn protected his longevity while the other > > difficult influences triggered the unfortunate > > event. > > > > Soon after this he forayed into politics during > the > > sub-period of Rahu, which proved to be > disastrous. > > The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th house > in > > close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. > > Rahu is placed in the royal sign Leo, which > enhances > > political inclinations. From my knowledge he was > > implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Sri VK Choudhry Ji, Does 4th house rule over public related activity or does 7th house rule that? In Mr Amitabh Bachan's chart, Saturn is in the 4th house, which is also a sign ruled by venus, Is that the reason he is an actor? With regards, SAMARTH >Arun Rao <arunrao9 > > >Re: AMITABH BACHAN >Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:49:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > >Replies are added in lower case below. > >Best Wishes, > >Arun > > >DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > >1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, >SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT >HAPPEN ? > >The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to some degree because of >the good influences on the planet. > >In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy gains blossomed. Sex >appeal is another factor that can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th >lord, even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely influenced by the >lord of the 7th house. Because Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit >influences can have a larger negative impact on the native. > >In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many rumors and even some >eyewitness accounts that put his marital fidelity in question. The >sub-period of Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and its >influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 has to be accounted for as >well. The Sun is the planet of highest status, and even though weak and >afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the MEP of the 2nd house. Yet >his marriage has remained in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises >along the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th house. > >In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered a life threatening >accident while performing a stunt, and was practically on his death bed. >His exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong Saturn protected >his longevity while the other difficult influences triggered the >unfortunate event. > >Soon after this he forayed into politics during the sub-period of Rahu, >which proved to be disastrous. The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th >house in close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. Rahu is placed >in the royal sign Leo, which enhances political inclinations. From my >knowledge he was implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) along >with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. > >During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film industry, but his >films performed miserably at the box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is >good to some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant weakness, >success was hard to come by. > >So while there were so many controversies and even near-death experiences, >the significations of fame, prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy >gains, and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and the good >influences on the 2nd house to some degree) flourished during the MD of >Saturn-- especially so in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury themselves. > >2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY >BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN >DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? > >During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period of Mercury, his films >continued to perform poorly. L8’s sub-period would have been good for easy >gains but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit influences need to be >examined carefully. > >Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company struggled mightily and >incurred enormous debts. He major litigation issues from his creditors, who >obviously wanted their due. > >3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE >8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION >OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE >WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF >AS PER SA? > >Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th house is very much >helpful for easy gains in life, inheritance, legacies, and windfall gains. > >The general and particular significations of Sun and Mars do indeed suffer >in this chart, as do those of the Moon. However, a balancing of >weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good influences is needed >to be able to get the right picture. > >During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial ruin but based on his >powerful connections, name, and fame, has still benefited to some degree. > >Again, the signification of easy gains is auspiciously influenced by 3 >planets (Sun, Mars, Mercury). > >4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN >WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA >, OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI >LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH >HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN >DASA IS IT ? > >If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is very strong and giving >good influences in the chart, then yes it is possible. > >For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime determinant of profession. >Taurus is an affluent sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes >him relatable and liked by the masses. > >IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY >DEAR FRIEND . > >Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. > >MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of Mercury were very powerful >for profession, career, fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed >persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. > >MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE >5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN >THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. >I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY >MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS >ARE WEAK. > >Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better for you than most likely >any other MD you will ever have. > >Get the most out of it while it lasts. > > I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC >BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT >TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. > >I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like most others. Bhukthi lords >have never been ignored. > >If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn during the prime of >his life, he would be nowhere near where he is today. > >That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good poorvapunya). > >5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS >IN 12 TH ONLY. > >Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations have to face losses. > >HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN >THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD >JUPITER. > >Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember correctly and it may even be >combust (I may be wrong here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the >aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb of 5 degrees it will >help to some degree. The influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be >helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but the general >significations of Mars remain hopelessly weak. > >BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY >HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . > >I only brought this up because you mentioned your father in your previous >message, and I just happened to think of what your own chart indicated in >this regard. > >Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their parents' financial >status, especially the father’s. > >Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s parents and for their >finances. A strong 2nd house is good for birth in a well-to-do family as >well. > >For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of strong Jupiter on MEP >9 are good for the father, but the other parental wealth/status indicators >are not strong since: > >(i) L9 is utterly weak >(ii) Ketu from H12 afflicts MEP 4 and 8 >(iii) The lord of the 2nd house is placed in the house of losses, while the >MEP of the 2nd is under the close influence of Rahu from the 6th house. > >If I have erred in any of the above, please understand that it is merely a >limitation of my memory. > >MOREOVER, I AM SAYING THAT THOUGH MY FATHER >HAD VENUS IN THE 9TH HOUSE, BHUKTIS WERE BAD. >BACHAN'S BHUKTIS ESPECIALLY SUN, MARS AND MERCURY >SHOULD BE DAMAGING/THREATENING TO THE STATUS. > >Refer to the earlier replies. > >DO >YOU HONESTLY FEEL THAT THIS HOROSCOPE BELONGS >TO A SUPERSTAR LIKE BACHAN ? > >In light of his strong houses 1, 4, 8, and 10 and the operation of the >strong Saturn and Mercury main-periods, yes I do think the horoscope has >validity. > >6) I FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG SOMEWHERE. >DIFFERENT YARD STICKS FOR DIFF PEOPLE . > >When analyzed without prejudice, this chart shows a very large capacity for >substantial rise in life thanks to the main-period of strong L1 and >professional determinant planet Saturn. However, the native will be plagued >by all kinds of scandals, ill health, insolvency, conflicts, and losses >along the way. > >Mr. Bachchan has had a long-terms battle with a very serious neuromuscular >disease as well. Afflicted Mars, Sun, Moon, L3, and L6 indicate this. > >He also suffers from asthma. The lord of the 3rd house is afflicted and >badly placed. > >The exactly afflicted L6 and Moon, a significator for financial solvency as >well, drastically endanger his financial position. > >Yet Saturn makes him a superstar along with the easy gains provided by >Mercury. > >KINDLY REVERT . > >SADASIVAN. > > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > The middle to end of August is vacation time for > > many folks, including me. > > > > The supporting factors for Mr. Bachchan are: > > > > 1. Strong L1 Saturn, ruling the significations of > > longevity, happiness, personality, reputation, > > status, and the fulfillment of desires. Saturn > > becomes his prime determinant of profession. > > > > 2. Strong L1 Saturn closely influences the MEP of > > houses 4, 10, 6, and 1. The natal strength of L1 on > > top of its influence on the 1st and 10th houses > > bless him with enormous status, fame, honor, and > > power whenever its sub-period is running (of course > > transit influences have to be supporting as well). > > The influence on houses 4 and 6 is great for his > > material assets and will promote the soundness of > > his financial position. In light of the exact > > affliction to L6, Saturn's influence on MEP 6 is > > helpful to some degree. The main period of such a > > planet will reap many rewards to the native for > > sure. > > > > 3. The lord of the 8th house Mercury is also strong, > > except for periods where Rahu and Ketu afflict its > > natal position for a prolonged duration. The > > influence of the FB's Sun and Mars on Mercury > > magnify its results. L8 on MEP 8, in addition to the > > aforementioned good influences on it, is very > > powerful for easy gains, windfall gains, and > > inheritance. Such an individual will always benefit > > from other people's money, and their level of > > financial gains is usually indirectly proportionate > > to the level of effort they put forth. L8 > > influencing L7 Sun and L3 Mars is damaging for the > > significations of those planets/lords. L8 > > influencing MEP 2 can cause troubles for his status > > and accumulated wealth when the sub-period of > > Mercury is running. Mr. Bachchan re-entered the > > acting scene as a way of repaying some of the > > massive debts that were hanging over his head from > > his many unsuccessful business ventures (3rd lord > > afflicted, 6th lord afflicted). The soundness of his > > finances and level > > of accumulated wealth will indeed suffer, so he is > > clearly not as wealthy as what the average person > > may think. > > > > 4. Mercury is an additional prime determinant for > > profession, as it rules the ascendant of D-10. It is > > strong in the natal chart. > > > > 5. The Sun influences the MEP 2 and MEP 8, while > > Mars influences MEP 2, 8, 11, and 3 (very important > > as this is its MT-sign). These influences are > > helpful to him as well, albeit to a lesser extent in > > light of their weaknesses/affliction. > > > > 6. The important thing to understand in this chart > > is the role of the 8th house lord. I have observed > > that it acts as a funnel for bringing in other > > people's money (whether or not this is done legally > > or illegally). So the L3/L8 conjunction, while being > > adverse for success in his initiatives, will funnel > > other people's money into his ventures. Thus, he can > > coast on his past laurels and still get others to > > back him financially despite the fact that his own > > ventures tend to tank. > > > > Mr. Bachchan has faced many serious setbacks in the > > health and financial spheres, but he has been > > blessed with easy gains throughout. Controversies > > have followed him and his friends/colleagues as well > > (L11 in H6). > > > > So, influences should not be interpreted in black or > > white terms. Always keep in mind that the influence > > of the lord of the 8th house can manifest in > > different ways, and is not always a terrible > > influence in the long-run. > > > > My father has Aquarius ascendant with a strong Venus > > on MEP 10. During his Venus mahadasha, both he and > > his father were very much blessed. The entire chart > > has to be examined of course. > > > > From what I remember in your chart, L9 is utterly > > weak and your Sun is weak by placement. Ketu > > afflicts MEP 4 and 8, which tends to limit the > > financial success of one's father/parents. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > > wrote: Dear Mr > > Arun Rao, > > > > You were not to be heard for the last one > > week. Today I saw you responding to some > > mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? > > > > > > Sadasivan . > > > > --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > <sadasivan_g > > wrote: > > > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE > > GIVEN > > > > > > BELOW > > > > > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > > > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > > > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > > > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > > > > > MEP) > > > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > > > 8TH > > > HOUSE. > > > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > > > > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > > > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS > > EXCELLENT. > > > > > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED > > ASPCTING > > > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > > > > > AS > > > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR > > IS > > > IN > > > 9TH HOUSE. > > > > > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > > > > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > > > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF > > STATUS > > > . > > > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > > > > > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > > > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE > > AFFLICTED. > > > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > > > > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H > > LORS > > > > > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > > > GET > > > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS > > MOON. > > > > > > > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM > > LOSS > > > > > > OF STATUS. > > > > > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > > > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO > > DOUBT > > > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS > > WHEN > > > 1 > > > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > > > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > > > LORD > > > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS > > GOOD > > > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > > > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE > > WAS > > > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > > > GOOD. > > > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > > > > > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT > > CASE > > > > > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD > > FOR > > > > > > HIM . > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > >How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call >rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Welcome, Mr. Gopalakrishnan. Best WIshes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, Thanks a lot for the analysis.My doubts have been clarified to a large extent. Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > I found your chart details in a previous message, so > there's no need to post them again. > > Replies are below in lower case. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > DEAR MR RAO, > > DOES THE EFFECT OF A MMF COMES DOWN IN CASE > IT IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH 2 MBFS. OR IS > THAT MMF IS A MMF ONLY AND MBFS WILL SUFFER ? > > Yes the impact can come down to some extent. > However, in the case of Mr. Bachchan, Mercury’s > influence on MEP 2 should still be termed as an > affliction, albeit one having lesser impact. > > The planets Sun and Mars suffer as a result of their > association with MMP Mercury. However, Mercury > itself benefits quite substantially and so its own > significations become very powerful (except during > malefic stationary influences on it). His 8th house > itself becomes very strong, and has helped him get > back on his feet from a financial standpoint in > spite of the other challenges that are seen. > > Keep in mind that the influence of the 8th house > lord, while creating many obstructions and > death-like experiences for the planets concerned, > can also give access to other people’s funds. This > significations of the lord of the 3rd house are > impeded substantially, but the 8th lord’s influence > gives opportunities to use other people’s funds. > However, it will be very difficult for AB to find > success in his own ventures. > > 2) WHEN WE ARE MAKING PREDICTIONS FOR 10 YEARS > OR SO , I MEAN FOR EVERY ONE, WE HAVE TO > FIRST SEE THE MAHADASA LORD . THEN GO STEP BY > STEP ON THE BHUKTI LORDS. BHUKTI LORDS HOUSE , > OWNERSHIP, PLACEMENT AND SIGNIFICANCE. > > Mahadasha lord sets the broader trend based on > strength, functional nature, influences on it, and > the influences it makes on other planets/houses. > Sub-period lord rules the immediate time-frame based > on what you’ve mentioned. The transits are studied > in concert with the tendencies of the sub-period > lord to see if things are to be amplified for the > time being. > > 3) IF DASA LORD AND BHUKTI LORD ARE IN 6,8,12 > POSITIONS THEN IT IS BAD ISNT IT ? > > There is no relevance of this in SA. Everything is > based on placement, functional nature, strength > (mainly in rasi, but also check the divisional > charts as back up), and close influences. Close > influences can magnify the results even if planets > are weak. However those weak natal planets are > affected for longer durations during transit to > natal afflictions and can cause delays. > > 4)I AM RUNNING JUPITER DASA VENUS BHUKTI TILL DEC > 06. THEN COMES SUN BHUKTI . SUN IS IN 12TH > HOUSE. JUP AND SUN ARE IN 6 8 POSITION. BHUKTI > OF SUN SHOULD LEAD TO FOLLOWING PROBLEMS > > Current time is difficult because the nodes are > aspecting their natal positions within an orb of 2 > degrees and have turned stationary. Propitiations of > Rahu and Ketu are recommended. > > It seems that you may be involved in foreign job > assignments during the sub-periods of Sun and Moon. > > 1) LOSS OF HEALTH > > This is possible. However strong Jupiter influences > the MEP of the ascendant, which protects things to a > good extent. > > 2) LOSS OF FATHER'S HEALTH > > Some trouble for the father is possible. > > 5) NEXT IS MOON BHUKTI. OUTSIDE MEP. IN THE 10TH > HOUSE. > EVENTS ARE - > > 1) A VISIT ABROAD PROFESSIONALLY . > > Yes. This is strongly indicated as L7/L12 are > closely conjunct in the 10th house. > > 2) DEPRESSION . MOON IS CLOSELY ASSOCIATE WITH > SATURN. > MOON AND JUP ARE IN 6-8 POSITION. > > This is also possible, but not for the reasons > given. Sakata yoga or any of the lunar yogas is > irrelevant. Moon’s influence on Saturn may cause > some trouble for the spouse, and some type of > separation is possible (think of what may happen for > some time if a foreign job assignment is > undertaken). The nodes influence the Moon’s > mooltrikona MEP, so there can be difficulties for > you during this time surrounding the significations > of the 12th house. This includes the signification > of mental peace. However, the influence of L7 can > take you to foreign places. > > Propitiation of Moon, Rahu, and Ketu is recommended. > > > KINDLY REVERT WHETHER I AM CORRECT > > SADASIVAN. > > > > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > Replies are added in lower case below. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > > > 1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, > > SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT > > HAPPEN ? > > > > The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder > to > > some degree because of the good influences on the > > planet. > > > > In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of > easy > > gains blossomed. Sex appeal is another factor > that > > can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th lord, > > even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are > closely > > influenced by the lord of the 7th house. Because > > Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit influences > can > > have a larger negative impact on the native. > > > > In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many > > rumors and even some eyewitness accounts that put > > his marital fidelity in question. The sub-period > of > > Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, > and > > its influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and > H2 > > has to be accounted for as well. The Sun is the > > planet of highest status, and even though weak > and > > afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the > > MEP of the 2nd house. Yet his marriage has > remained > > in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises > along > > the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th > > house. > > > > In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he > suffered > > a life threatening accident while performing a > > stunt, and was practically on his death bed. His > > exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and > strong > > Saturn protected his longevity while the other > > difficult influences triggered the unfortunate > > event. > > > > Soon after this he forayed into politics during > the > > sub-period of Rahu, which proved to be > disastrous. > > The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th house > in > > close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. > > Rahu is placed in the royal sign Leo, which > enhances > > political inclinations. From my knowledge he was > > implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) > === message truncated === Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Mr. Samarth, I hope you don't mind someone else's thoughts... The 4th house can deal with one's supporters and friends. The 7th house deals with long-term partnerships in both business and in life and also one's outgoing nature. The 1st, 2nd and 10th houses are the main houses of fame and status. The 4th is a house of the mind and also creativity. Many of those involved with the film industry will be having a strong L4/H4. Saturn being L1 in H4 in Venus' sign does play a role in him pursuing a career path that involves creativity. Its strength and influence on the ascendant and 10th houses brought him enormous name and fame along with the easy gains given by Mercury, Sun, and Mars. His Saturn and Mercury sub-periods in the main-period of Saturn gave him his rise. During the MD of strong MMP Mercury, the signification of easy gains has flourished. However he has also faced enormous financial difficulties and at one time he was on the brink of losing everything. Best Wishes, Arun sam s <samarth_04 wrote: Dear Sri VK Choudhry Ji, Does 4th house rule over public related activity or does 7th house rule that? In Mr Amitabh Bachan's chart, Saturn is in the 4th house, which is also a sign ruled by venus, Is that the reason he is an actor? With regards, SAMARTH >Arun Rao > > >Re: AMITABH BACHAN >Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:49:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > >Replies are added in lower case below. > >Best Wishes, > >Arun > > >DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > >1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, >SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT >HAPPEN ? > >The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to some degree because of >the good influences on the planet. > >In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy gains blossomed. Sex >appeal is another factor that can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th >lord, even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely influenced by the >lord of the 7th house. Because Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit >influences can have a larger negative impact on the native. > >In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many rumors and even some >eyewitness accounts that put his marital fidelity in question. The >sub-period of Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and its >influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 has to be accounted for as >well. The Sun is the planet of highest status, and even though weak and >afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the MEP of the 2nd house. Yet >his marriage has remained in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises >along the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th house. > >In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered a life threatening >accident while performing a stunt, and was practically on his death bed. >His exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong Saturn protected >his longevity while the other difficult influences triggered the >unfortunate event. > >Soon after this he forayed into politics during the sub-period of Rahu, >which proved to be disastrous. The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the 8th >house in close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. Rahu is placed >in the royal sign Leo, which enhances political inclinations. From my >knowledge he was implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) along >with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. > >During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film industry, but his >films performed miserably at the box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is >good to some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant weakness, >success was hard to come by. > >So while there were so many controversies and even near-death experiences, >the significations of fame, prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy >gains, and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and the good >influences on the 2nd house to some degree) flourished during the MD of >Saturn-- especially so in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury themselves. > >2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY >BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN >DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? > >During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period of Mercury, his films >continued to perform poorly. L8’s sub-period would have been good for easy >gains but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit influences need to be >examined carefully. > >Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company struggled mightily and >incurred enormous debts. He major litigation issues from his creditors, who >obviously wanted their due. > >3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE >8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION >OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE >WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF >AS PER SA? > >Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th house is very much >helpful for easy gains in life, inheritance, legacies, and windfall gains. > >The general and particular significations of Sun and Mars do indeed suffer >in this chart, as do those of the Moon. However, a balancing of >weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good influences is needed >to be able to get the right picture. > >During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial ruin but based on his >powerful connections, name, and fame, has still benefited to some degree. > >Again, the signification of easy gains is auspiciously influenced by 3 >planets (Sun, Mars, Mercury). > >4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN >WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA >, OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI >LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH >HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN >DASA IS IT ? > >If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is very strong and giving >good influences in the chart, then yes it is possible. > >For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime determinant of profession. >Taurus is an affluent sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes >him relatable and liked by the masses. > >IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY >DEAR FRIEND . > >Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. > >MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of Mercury were very powerful >for profession, career, fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed >persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. > >MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE >5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN >THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. >I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY >MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS >ARE WEAK. > >Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better for you than most likely >any other MD you will ever have. > >Get the most out of it while it lasts. > > I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC >BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT >TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. > >I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like most others. Bhukthi lords >have never been ignored. > >If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn during the prime of >his life, he would be nowhere near where he is today. > >That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good poorvapunya). > >5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS >IN 12 TH ONLY. > >Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations have to face losses. > >HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN >THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD >JUPITER. > >Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember correctly and it may even be >combust (I may be wrong here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the >aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb of 5 degrees it will >help to some degree. The influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be >helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but the general >significations of Mars remain hopelessly weak. > >BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY >HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . > >I only brought this up because you mentioned your father in your previous >message, and I just happened to think of what your own chart indicated in >this regard. > >Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their parents' financial >status, especially the father’s. > >Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s parents and for their >finances. A strong 2nd house is good for birth in a well-to-do family as >well. > >For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of strong Jupiter on MEP >9 are good for the father, but the other parental wealth/status indicators >are not strong since: > >(i) L9 is utterly weak >(ii) Ketu from H12 afflicts MEP 4 and 8 >(iii) The lord of the 2nd house is placed in the house of losses, while the >MEP of the 2nd is under the close influence of Rahu from the 6th house. > >If I have erred in any of the above, please understand that it is merely a >limitation of my memory. > >MOREOVER, I AM SAYING THAT THOUGH MY FATHER >HAD VENUS IN THE 9TH HOUSE, BHUKTIS WERE BAD. >BACHAN'S BHUKTIS ESPECIALLY SUN, MARS AND MERCURY >SHOULD BE DAMAGING/THREATENING TO THE STATUS. > >Refer to the earlier replies. > >DO >YOU HONESTLY FEEL THAT THIS HOROSCOPE BELONGS >TO A SUPERSTAR LIKE BACHAN ? > >In light of his strong houses 1, 4, 8, and 10 and the operation of the >strong Saturn and Mercury main-periods, yes I do think the horoscope has >validity. > >6) I FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG SOMEWHERE. >DIFFERENT YARD STICKS FOR DIFF PEOPLE . > >When analyzed without prejudice, this chart shows a very large capacity for >substantial rise in life thanks to the main-period of strong L1 and >professional determinant planet Saturn. However, the native will be plagued >by all kinds of scandals, ill health, insolvency, conflicts, and losses >along the way. > >Mr. Bachchan has had a long-terms battle with a very serious neuromuscular >disease as well. Afflicted Mars, Sun, Moon, L3, and L6 indicate this. > >He also suffers from asthma. The lord of the 3rd house is afflicted and >badly placed. > >The exactly afflicted L6 and Moon, a significator for financial solvency as >well, drastically endanger his financial position. > >Yet Saturn makes him a superstar along with the easy gains provided by >Mercury. > >KINDLY REVERT . > >SADASIVAN. > > > --- Arun Rao wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > The middle to end of August is vacation time for > > many folks, including me. > > > > The supporting factors for Mr. Bachchan are: > > > > 1. Strong L1 Saturn, ruling the significations of > > longevity, happiness, personality, reputation, > > status, and the fulfillment of desires. Saturn > > becomes his prime determinant of profession. > > > > 2. Strong L1 Saturn closely influences the MEP of > > houses 4, 10, 6, and 1. The natal strength of L1 on > > top of its influence on the 1st and 10th houses > > bless him with enormous status, fame, honor, and > > power whenever its sub-period is running (of course > > transit influences have to be supporting as well). > > The influence on houses 4 and 6 is great for his > > material assets and will promote the soundness of > > his financial position. In light of the exact > > affliction to L6, Saturn's influence on MEP 6 is > > helpful to some degree. The main period of such a > > planet will reap many rewards to the native for > > sure. > > > > 3. The lord of the 8th house Mercury is also strong, > > except for periods where Rahu and Ketu afflict its > > natal position for a prolonged duration. The > > influence of the FB's Sun and Mars on Mercury > > magnify its results. L8 on MEP 8, in addition to the > > aforementioned good influences on it, is very > > powerful for easy gains, windfall gains, and > > inheritance. Such an individual will always benefit > > from other people's money, and their level of > > financial gains is usually indirectly proportionate > > to the level of effort they put forth. L8 > > influencing L7 Sun and L3 Mars is damaging for the > > significations of those planets/lords. L8 > > influencing MEP 2 can cause troubles for his status > > and accumulated wealth when the sub-period of > > Mercury is running. Mr. Bachchan re-entered the > > acting scene as a way of repaying some of the > > massive debts that were hanging over his head from > > his many unsuccessful business ventures (3rd lord > > afflicted, 6th lord afflicted). The soundness of his > > finances and level > > of accumulated wealth will indeed suffer, so he is > > clearly not as wealthy as what the average person > > may think. > > > > 4. Mercury is an additional prime determinant for > > profession, as it rules the ascendant of D-10. It is > > strong in the natal chart. > > > > 5. The Sun influences the MEP 2 and MEP 8, while > > Mars influences MEP 2, 8, 11, and 3 (very important > > as this is its MT-sign). These influences are > > helpful to him as well, albeit to a lesser extent in > > light of their weaknesses/affliction. > > > > 6. The important thing to understand in this chart > > is the role of the 8th house lord. I have observed > > that it acts as a funnel for bringing in other > > people's money (whether or not this is done legally > > or illegally). So the L3/L8 conjunction, while being > > adverse for success in his initiatives, will funnel > > other people's money into his ventures. Thus, he can > > coast on his past laurels and still get others to > > back him financially despite the fact that his own > > ventures tend to tank. > > > > Mr. Bachchan has faced many serious setbacks in the > > health and financial spheres, but he has been > > blessed with easy gains throughout. Controversies > > have followed him and his friends/colleagues as well > > (L11 in H6). > > > > So, influences should not be interpreted in black or > > white terms. Always keep in mind that the influence > > of the lord of the 8th house can manifest in > > different ways, and is not always a terrible > > influence in the long-run. > > > > My father has Aquarius ascendant with a strong Venus > > on MEP 10. During his Venus mahadasha, both he and > > his father were very much blessed. The entire chart > > has to be examined of course. > > > > From what I remember in your chart, L9 is utterly > > weak and your Sun is weak by placement. Ketu > > afflicts MEP 4 and 8, which tends to limit the > > financial success of one's father/parents. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > wrote: Dear Mr > > Arun Rao, > > > > You were not to be heard for the last one > > week. Today I saw you responding to some > > mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? > > > > > > Sadasivan . > > > > --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > wrote: > > > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE > > GIVEN > > > > > > BELOW > > > > > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > > > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > > > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > > > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > > > > > MEP) > > > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > > > 8TH > > > HOUSE. > > > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > > > > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > > > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS > > EXCELLENT. > > > > > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED > > ASPCTING > > > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > > > > > AS > > > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR > > IS > > > IN > > > 9TH HOUSE. > > > > > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > > > > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > > > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF > > STATUS > > > . > > > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > > > > > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > > > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE > > AFFLICTED. > > > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > > > > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H > > LORS > > > > > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > > > GET > > > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS > > MOON. > > > > > > > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM > > LOSS > > > > > > OF STATUS. > > > > > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > > > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO > > DOUBT > > > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS > > WHEN > > > 1 > > > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > > > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > > > LORD > > > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS > > GOOD > > > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > > > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE > > WAS > > > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > > > GOOD. > > > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > > > > > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT > > CASE > > > > > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD > > FOR > > > > > > HIM . > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > >How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call >rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Dear Arun Rao, Thank you for explaining well. With Regards, SAMARTH >Arun Rao <arunrao9 > > >Re: AMITABH BACHAN >Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:03:33 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear Mr. Samarth, > >I hope you don't mind someone else's thoughts... > >The 4th house can deal with one's supporters and friends. > >The 7th house deals with long-term partnerships in both business and in >life and also one's outgoing nature. > >The 1st, 2nd and 10th houses are the main houses of fame and status. > >The 4th is a house of the mind and also creativity. Many of those involved >with the film industry will be having a strong L4/H4. > >Saturn being L1 in H4 in Venus' sign does play a role in him pursuing a >career path that involves creativity. Its strength and influence on the >ascendant and 10th houses brought him enormous name and fame along with the >easy gains given by Mercury, Sun, and Mars. His Saturn and Mercury >sub-periods in the main-period of Saturn gave him his rise. > >During the MD of strong MMP Mercury, the signification of easy gains has >flourished. However he has also faced enormous financial difficulties and >at one time he was on the brink of losing everything. > >Best Wishes, > >Arun > >sam s <samarth_04 wrote: Dear Sri VK Choudhry Ji, > >Does 4th house rule over public related activity or does 7th house rule >that? > >In Mr Amitabh Bachan's chart, Saturn is in the 4th house, which is also a >sign ruled by venus, Is that the reason he is an actor? > >With regards, >SAMARTH > > > > >Arun Rao > > > > > >Re: AMITABH BACHAN > >Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:49:19 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > >Replies are added in lower case below. > > > >Best Wishes, > > > >Arun > > > > > >DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > > >1)IN SATURN DASA, MERCURY BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, > >SUN BHUKTI SHOULD AFFECT BACHAN'S STATUS. DID IT > >HAPPEN ? > > > >The affliction to MEP 2 by Mercury becomes milder to some degree because >of > >the good influences on the planet. > > > >In the Mercury sub-period, the signification of easy gains blossomed. Sex > >appeal is another factor that can be attributed to a strong 8th house/8th > >lord, even more so in this case as L8 and H8 are closely influenced by >the > >lord of the 7th house. Because Mercury is the MMP, adverse transit > >influences can have a larger negative impact on the native. > > > >In the Venus and Sun sub-periods, there were many rumors and even some > >eyewitness accounts that put his marital fidelity in question. The > >sub-period of Sun is good for the signification of easy gains, and its > >influence on L8, L3 (to some extent), H8, and H2 has to be accounted for >as > >well. The Sun is the planet of highest status, and even though weak and > >afflicted makes some amount of good impact on the MEP of the 2nd house. >Yet > >his marriage has remained in tact in spite of all the bumps and bruises > >along the way, mainly thanks to his strong 8th lord/8th house. > > > >In either the Moon or Mars sub-periods, he suffered a life threatening > >accident while performing a stunt, and was practically on his death bed. > >His exceptionally strong L1/H1, strong L8/H8, and strong Saturn protected > >his longevity while the other difficult influences triggered the > >unfortunate event. > > > >Soon after this he forayed into politics during the sub-period of Rahu, > >which proved to be disastrous. The dispositor of Rahu is placed in the >8th > >house in close conjunction with the lord of the 8th house. Rahu is placed > >in the royal sign Leo, which enhances political inclinations. From my > >knowledge he was implicated in a scandal (8th house signification) along > >with the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. > > > >During the Jupiter sub-period he re-entered the film industry, but his > >films performed miserably at the box office. Mars’ influence on MEP 11 is > >good to some extent, but in light of Jupiter’s significant weakness, > >success was hard to come by. > > > >So while there were so many controversies and even near-death >experiences, > >the significations of fame, prosperity, public esteem, sex appeal, easy > >gains, and status (via the powerful 1st and 10th houses and the good > >influences on the 2nd house to some degree) flourished during the MD of > >Saturn-- especially so in the sub-periods of Saturn and Mercury >themselves. > > > >2) MERCURY IS A MMF . MERCURY DASA MERCURY > >BHUKTI, MARS BHUKTI, SUN BHUKTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN > >DAMAGING TO THE STATUS.DID IT HAPPEN ? > > > >During the sub-period of Mercury in the main-period of Mercury, his films > >continued to perform poorly. L8’s sub-period would have been good for >easy > >gains but in the MD-sub-period of the MMP, transit influences need to be > >examined carefully. > > > >Between 1997 and 1999, his film production company struggled mightily and > >incurred enormous debts. He major litigation issues from his creditors, >who > >obviously wanted their due. > > > >3) MERUCRY IS THE 8TH LORD. 8TH LORD IN THE > >8TH HOUSE GIVES INHERITANCE. BUT THE ASSOCIATION > >OF MERCURY WITH OTHER PLANETS IS DAMAGING.ARE > >WE CONDONING THE FACT THAT MERCURY IS A MMF > >AS PER SA? > > > >Absolutely not. The lord of the 8th house in the 8th house is very much > >helpful for easy gains in life, inheritance, legacies, and windfall >gains. > > > >The general and particular significations of Sun and Mars do indeed >suffer > >in this chart, as do those of the Moon. However, a balancing of > >weaknesses/afflictions as well as strengths and good influences is needed > >to be able to get the right picture. > > > >During the MD of Mercury, he has faced financial ruin but based on his > >powerful connections, name, and fame, has still benefited to some degree. > > > >Again, the signification of easy gains is auspiciously influenced by 3 > >planets (Sun, Mars, Mercury). > > > >4) DURING THE YEAR WHEN BACHAN WAS BORN, SATURN > >WAS IN TAURUS ONLY FOR ALL. ALL AQUARUS LAGNA > >, OF COURSE MEP MATTERS, WILL HAVE SATURN LI > >LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE ASPECTING THE 10TH > >HOUSE. EVERY ONE WOULD HAVE EXCELLENT SATURN > >DASA IS IT ? > > > >If the other influences are supportive and Saturn is very strong and >giving > >good influences in the chart, then yes it is possible. > > > >For Aquarius lagna Saturn becomes the prime determinant of profession. > >Taurus is an affluent sign ruled by Venus. Saturn's influence helps makes > >him relatable and liked by the masses. > > > >IMPOSSIBLE. BHUKTIS MATTERS MY > >DEAR FRIEND . > > > >Yes they do, as I’ve gone through above. > > > >MD of strong, well-influencing Saturn and MD of Mercury were very >powerful > >for profession, career, fame, easy gains, benefits from highly placed > >persons, windfalls, status, etc., etc. > > > >MY FIFTH LORD JUPITER IS IN THE > >5TH HOUSE . IE IN SAGITARIUS. THAT TOO IN > >THE MEP. I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF JUPITER DASA. > >I NEVER HAD A ROSY TIME JUST BECAUSE MY > >MAHADASA LORD IS STRONG. BECAUSE BHUKTI LORDS > >ARE WEAK. > > > >Yes, but Jupiter mahadasha is comparatively better for you than most >likely > >any other MD you will ever have. > > > >Get the most out of it while it lasts. > > > > I KNOW YOU ARE AN EXPERT.BUT LOGIC > >BEHIND IGNORING THE ROLE OF BHUKTI LORDS AT > >TIMES IS NOT CLEAR. > > > >I’m not an expert, but merely an enthusiast like most others. Bhukthi >lords > >have never been ignored. > > > >If Mr. Bachchan didn’t run the main-period of Saturn during the prime of > >his life, he would be nowhere near where he is today. > > > >That’s just the luck of the draw (or simply good poorvapunya). > > > >5) YOUR MEMORY IS PARTIALLY RIGHT .MY SUN IS > >IN 12 TH ONLY. > > > >Ok, but it still becomes weak. Its significations have to face losses. > > > >HOWEVER, MY 9TH LORD IS IN > >THE LAGNA ONLY ASPECTED BY THE 5TH LORD > >JUPITER. > > > >Your 9th lord is utterly weak if I remember correctly and it may even be > >combust (I may be wrong here), besides having a weak dispositor. If the > >aspect of strong Jupiter is within the relevant orb of 5 degrees it will > >help to some degree. The influence of strong Jupiter on MEP 9 would be > >helpful for the significations of the 9th house, but the general > >significations of Mars remain hopelessly weak. > > > >BUT WHY SHOULD ONE EXAMINE MY > >HOROSCOPE TO JUDGE MY FATHERS FINANCE. . > > > >I only brought this up because you mentioned your father in your previous > >message, and I just happened to think of what your own chart indicated in > >this regard. > > > >Children’s horoscopes are indeed reflective of their parents' financial > >status, especially the father’s. > > > >Strong 9th, 8th, and 4th houses are good for one’s parents and for their > >finances. A strong 2nd house is good for birth in a well-to-do family as > >well. > > > >For you, strength of natal Jupiter and the aspect of strong Jupiter on >MEP > >9 are good for the father, but the other parental wealth/status >indicators > >are not strong since: > > > >(i) L9 is utterly weak > >(ii) Ketu from H12 afflicts MEP 4 and 8 > >(iii) The lord of the 2nd house is placed in the house of losses, while >the > >MEP of the 2nd is under the close influence of Rahu from the 6th house. > > > >If I have erred in any of the above, please understand that it is merely >a > >limitation of my memory. > > > >MOREOVER, I AM SAYING THAT THOUGH MY FATHER > >HAD VENUS IN THE 9TH HOUSE, BHUKTIS WERE BAD. > >BACHAN'S BHUKTIS ESPECIALLY SUN, MARS AND MERCURY > >SHOULD BE DAMAGING/THREATENING TO THE STATUS. > > > >Refer to the earlier replies. > > > >DO > >YOU HONESTLY FEEL THAT THIS HOROSCOPE BELONGS > >TO A SUPERSTAR LIKE BACHAN ? > > > >In light of his strong houses 1, 4, 8, and 10 and the operation of the > >strong Saturn and Mercury main-periods, yes I do think the horoscope has > >validity. > > > >6) I FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG SOMEWHERE. > >DIFFERENT YARD STICKS FOR DIFF PEOPLE . > > > >When analyzed without prejudice, this chart shows a very large capacity >for > >substantial rise in life thanks to the main-period of strong L1 and > >professional determinant planet Saturn. However, the native will be >plagued > >by all kinds of scandals, ill health, insolvency, conflicts, and losses > >along the way. > > > >Mr. Bachchan has had a long-terms battle with a very serious >neuromuscular > >disease as well. Afflicted Mars, Sun, Moon, L3, and L6 indicate this. > > > >He also suffers from asthma. The lord of the 3rd house is afflicted and > >badly placed. > > > >The exactly afflicted L6 and Moon, a significator for financial solvency >as > >well, drastically endanger his financial position. > > > >Yet Saturn makes him a superstar along with the easy gains provided by > >Mercury. > > > >KINDLY REVERT . > > > >SADASIVAN. > > > > > > --- Arun Rao wrote: > > > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > > The middle to end of August is vacation time for > > > many folks, including me. > > > > > > The supporting factors for Mr. Bachchan are: > > > > > > 1. Strong L1 Saturn, ruling the significations of > > > longevity, happiness, personality, reputation, > > > status, and the fulfillment of desires. Saturn > > > becomes his prime determinant of profession. > > > > > > 2. Strong L1 Saturn closely influences the MEP of > > > houses 4, 10, 6, and 1. The natal strength of L1 on > > > top of its influence on the 1st and 10th houses > > > bless him with enormous status, fame, honor, and > > > power whenever its sub-period is running (of course > > > transit influences have to be supporting as well). > > > The influence on houses 4 and 6 is great for his > > > material assets and will promote the soundness of > > > his financial position. In light of the exact > > > affliction to L6, Saturn's influence on MEP 6 is > > > helpful to some degree. The main period of such a > > > planet will reap many rewards to the native for > > > sure. > > > > > > 3. The lord of the 8th house Mercury is also strong, > > > except for periods where Rahu and Ketu afflict its > > > natal position for a prolonged duration. The > > > influence of the FB's Sun and Mars on Mercury > > > magnify its results. L8 on MEP 8, in addition to the > > > aforementioned good influences on it, is very > > > powerful for easy gains, windfall gains, and > > > inheritance. Such an individual will always benefit > > > from other people's money, and their level of > > > financial gains is usually indirectly proportionate > > > to the level of effort they put forth. L8 > > > influencing L7 Sun and L3 Mars is damaging for the > > > significations of those planets/lords. L8 > > > influencing MEP 2 can cause troubles for his status > > > and accumulated wealth when the sub-period of > > > Mercury is running. Mr. Bachchan re-entered the > > > acting scene as a way of repaying some of the > > > massive debts that were hanging over his head from > > > his many unsuccessful business ventures (3rd lord > > > afflicted, 6th lord afflicted). The soundness of his > > > finances and level > > > of accumulated wealth will indeed suffer, so he is > > > clearly not as wealthy as what the average person > > > may think. > > > > > > 4. Mercury is an additional prime determinant for > > > profession, as it rules the ascendant of D-10. It is > > > strong in the natal chart. > > > > > > 5. The Sun influences the MEP 2 and MEP 8, while > > > Mars influences MEP 2, 8, 11, and 3 (very important > > > as this is its MT-sign). These influences are > > > helpful to him as well, albeit to a lesser extent in > > > light of their weaknesses/affliction. > > > > > > 6. The important thing to understand in this chart > > > is the role of the 8th house lord. I have observed > > > that it acts as a funnel for bringing in other > > > people's money (whether or not this is done legally > > > or illegally). So the L3/L8 conjunction, while being > > > adverse for success in his initiatives, will funnel > > > other people's money into his ventures. Thus, he can > > > coast on his past laurels and still get others to > > > back him financially despite the fact that his own > > > ventures tend to tank. > > > > > > Mr. Bachchan has faced many serious setbacks in the > > > health and financial spheres, but he has been > > > blessed with easy gains throughout. Controversies > > > have followed him and his friends/colleagues as well > > > (L11 in H6). > > > > > > So, influences should not be interpreted in black or > > > white terms. Always keep in mind that the influence > > > of the lord of the 8th house can manifest in > > > different ways, and is not always a terrible > > > influence in the long-run. > > > > > > My father has Aquarius ascendant with a strong Venus > > > on MEP 10. During his Venus mahadasha, both he and > > > his father were very much blessed. The entire chart > > > has to be examined of course. > > > > > > From what I remember in your chart, L9 is utterly > > > weak and your Sun is weak by placement. Ketu > > > afflicts MEP 4 and 8, which tends to limit the > > > financial success of one's father/parents. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > wrote: Dear Mr > > > Arun Rao, > > > > > > You were not to be heard for the last one > > > week. Today I saw you responding to some > > > mails. Can you please reply on this mail ? > > > > > > > > > Sadasivan . > > > > > > --- SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > DEAR MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > > > > > IS THE HOROSCOPE OF AMITABH BACHAN LIKE > > > GIVEN > > > > > > > > BELOW > > > > > > > > AQUAR ACS- 21 > > > > SATURN IN 4TH HOUSE 19 (IN MEP) > > > > JUP IN INFANCY (THOUGH EXALTED IN 6TH HOUSE) > > > > RAHU KAEU IN LAGNA 7TH HOUSE (11 DEG OUTSIDE > > > > > > > MEP) > > > > VENUS(15), MARS (22), MER (23), SUN 24 ALL IN > > > > 8TH > > > > HOUSE. > > > > MOON (10) IN 9TH HOUSE. > > > > > > > > LAGNA LORD SATURN IN 4H HOUE ASPECTING THE > > > > LAGNA AND THE 10TH HOUSE IN MEP IS > > > EXCELLENT. > > > > > > > > THE 11TH LORD JUPITER THOUGH EXALTED > > > ASPCTING > > > > THE 10TH HOUSE IS GOOD BUT NOT PRODUCTIVE > > > > > > > AS > > > > JUP IS IN INFANCY.JUP ISIN 6TH . DISPOSITOR > > > IS > > > > IN > > > > 9TH HOUSE. > > > > > > > > RAHU KETU ARE NOT CREATING ANY PROBLEMS > > > > > > > > 7TH LORD SUN IS CLOS TO MMF MRCURY. MMF > > > > MERCURY CLOELY ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF > > > STATUS > > > > . > > > > THE 3RD LORD MARS IS CLOSE TO MMF MERCURY > > > > > > > AGAIN. SUN, MARS AND MER ARE IN MEP. ALL > > > > ASPECTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > > > > > 1 PLANET IS WEAK AND 3 OTHERS ARE > > > AFFLICTED. > > > > JUP , MARS , SUN AND MER . > > > > > > > > HE IS RUNNING KETU DASA VENUS BHUKTI . 9H > > > LORS > > > > > > > > VENUS IS ASPECTING THE 2ND HOUSE . SHOULD > > > > GET > > > > HIM STATUS. NEXT IS SUN BHUKTI. NEXT IS > > > MOON. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN BHUKTI , MARS BHUKTI SHOULD GET HIM > > > LOSS > > > > > > > > OF STATUS. > > > > > > > > COMING TO MY QUESTION, I RECALL ONCE YOUR > > > > TELLING THAT SATURN DASA WAS GOOD . NO > > > DOUBT > > > > SATURN IS GOOD .BUT THE ENTIRE 19 YEARS > > > WHEN > > > > 1 > > > > PLANET I WEAK AND 3 OTHERS AFFLICTED AND > > > > AFFLICTING THE HOUSE OF STATUS. > > > > > > > > MY DAD ALSO HAS GOT AQUARIS ASC AND 9TH > > > > LORD > > > > VENUS IN 9TH HOUSE STRONG. 20 YEARS WAS > > > GOOD > > > > FOR HIM . MEANS WHAT . HE CONSTRUCTED ONE > > > > HOUSE, ONE SECOND HAND CAR ETC. STILL HE > > > WAS > > > > ONLY MIDDLE CLASS. OTHER BHUKTIS WERE NOT > > > > GOOD. > > > > SIMILARLY , HOW CAN THE ENTIRE MAHADASA OF > > > > > > > SATURN BE GOOD FOR AMITABH BACHAN.IN THAT > > > CASE > > > > > > > > THE ENTIRE MER DASA SHOULD HAVE BEEN BAD > > > FOR > > > > > > > > HIM . > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call > >rates. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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