Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Dear Sanjay, Will you please send the birth data of Bill gates. My last mail might have lost. krushna -- In , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I am enclosing the summary worksheet for Bill gates. > > Moon as 2nd lord has good points for most houses. The 2nd house also has > good points. However, his 3,6,10,11 points are not ascending and his 12th > house has more points than his 11th house. > > Is this because I might be using a wrong time or date of his birth or is > there some other explanation for this. From the worksheet, can we point out > reasons why he could be the richest man on Earth and not a person deeply in > debt? > > Kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Dear Sanjay, and Margarita, and List members, Thanks Margarita for giving correct data of birth. This new chart gives answer for Sanjay's question. One Question : Why he is world's richest man? This is very difficult question. I do not think, there is any system which can answer about this. With our system, we can judge that he will earn a good amount, and will accumulate much. Yes we can say he will not have any debt. But it is difficult to answer, Why he is richest person on this earth. We can not find the answer in terms of quantity or amount. We can give the answer in relative way. We can say his earning will be very good, and will accumulate a good amount. Yes there is one law which can say about the earning, but that is also relative. It is like this: From Lagna and Moon and Sun, if there is any natural benefic planet situated in 3,6,10th and 11th house, then the person earn and accumulate good money, If all natural benefics are in these houses then Much more money ( count less). Narural benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and Wanning Moon. Now in this chart From Moon : Jupiter is situated in 6th place. From Lagna : Mercury is in 3rd place From Sun : Moon is in 6th place, and Jupiter is in 11th place. So Jupiter, Mercury, and Moon are satisfying these conditions. So we can say he will have very good wealth.( This law I my self have not checked in many charts) About the chart: Here Moon and Mars are Raj Yog karak. ( Moon lord of Centre is situated in 9th ( Trikona) and Mars is lord of Centre and trine house. All the planets ( except Moon) are with less points (4 or less then 4 points) But studying at a glance, this person can not have marrital happiness, or happiness from his mother. Handsome, well formed body, Vertical forhead, sensative, emotional, romantic, overcomes all compititors, No brother or brother may suffer, with good communication skill, Possible association with dancers or singers, krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Sanjay, > I looked at the worksheet of Bill Gates and then consulted > the www.astrodatabank.com where I found following TOB for > this person > Born in Seattle (WA) USA at 10 pm or 22 h 47N36 - 122W20. > This gives a 4°44 cancer as with Jupiter in the 2nd/ Mars > and Mercury in the 3th/ Sun, Venus and Saturn in the 4th > /Rahu in the 5th and Moon in the 9th. > Moon as 12th from the 2nd can not harm Mars and Mercury so > points become very different in the worksheet. > He also had some trouble in 2000/2001 sun sub, so this > seems to match > Astrodatabank seems to be reliable as to birthdata > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: > 4/19/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, Do you use HORA chart for judging wealth and timing for the same ? Could you throw some light on HORA chart. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Sanjay, and Margarita, and List members, > Thanks Margarita for giving correct data of birth. This new > chart gives answer for Sanjay's question. > One Question : Why he is world's richest man? > This is very difficult question. I do not think, there is any > system which can answer about this. With our system, we can judge > that he will earn a good amount, and will accumulate much. Yes we can > say he will not have any debt. > But it is difficult to answer, Why he is richest person on this > earth. We can not find the answer in terms of quantity or amount. We > can give the answer in relative way. > We can say his earning will be very good, and will accumulate a > good amount. > Yes there is one law which can say about the earning, but that is > also relative. It is like this: > From Lagna and Moon and Sun, if there is any natural benefic > planet situated in 3,6,10th and 11th house, then the person earn and > accumulate good money, If all natural benefics are in these houses > then Much more money ( count less). Narural benefics are Jupiter, > Venus, Mercury and Wanning Moon. > Now in this chart From Moon : Jupiter is situated in 6th place. > From Lagna : Mercury is in 3rd place > From Sun : Moon is in 6th place, and Jupiter is in 11th place. > So Jupiter, Mercury, and Moon are satisfying these conditions. > So we can say he will have very good wealth.( This law I my self > have not checked in many charts) > > About the chart: > Here Moon and Mars are Raj Yog karak. ( Moon lord of Centre is > situated in 9th ( Trikona) and Mars is lord of Centre and trine > house. > All the planets ( except Moon) are with less points (4 or less > then 4 points) > But studying at a glance, this person can not have marrital > happiness, or happiness from his mother. Handsome, well formed body, > Vertical forhead, sensative, emotional, romantic, overcomes all > compititors, No brother or brother may suffer, with good > communication skill, Possible association with dancers or singers, > krushna > > > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Hello Sanjay, > > I looked at the worksheet of Bill Gates and then consulted > > the www.astrodatabank.com where I found following TOB for > > this person > > Born in Seattle (WA) USA at 10 pm or 22 h 47N36 - 122W20. > > This gives a 4°44 cancer as with Jupiter in the 2nd/ Mars > > and Mercury in the 3th/ Sun, Venus and Saturn in the 4th > > /Rahu in the 5th and Moon in the 9th. > > Moon as 12th from the 2nd can not harm Mars and Mercury so > > points become very different in the worksheet. > > He also had some trouble in 2000/2001 sun sub, so this > > seems to match > > Astrodatabank seems to be reliable as to birthdata > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: > > 4/19/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Dear Ash, Hora chart is to find our the balance of the person in masculine and feminine qualities. Directly it is not related to wealth. When there are more planets in masculine div (Solar) it may be said that he may earn good wealth. Shodasamsa chart is recomonded for Property, wealth, Conveyoance and home. This will be a guide line only. Better idea and reliable guide line can be from the points in the Sav and Worksheet. krushna , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, > Do you use HORA chart for judging wealth and timing for the same ? > Could you throw some light on HORA chart. > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " krushanain " <krushanain> > wrote: > > Dear Sanjay, and Margarita, and List members, > > Thanks Margarita for giving correct data of birth. This > new > > chart gives answer for Sanjay's question. > > One Question : Why he is world's richest man? > > This is very difficult question. I do not think, there is any > > system which can answer about this. With our system, we can judge > > that he will earn a good amount, and will accumulate much. Yes we > can > > say he will not have any debt. > > But it is difficult to answer, Why he is richest person on this > > earth. We can not find the answer in terms of quantity or amount. > We > > can give the answer in relative way. > > We can say his earning will be very good, and will accumulate a > > good amount. > > Yes there is one law which can say about the earning, but that > is > > also relative. It is like this: > > From Lagna and Moon and Sun, if there is any natural benefic > > planet situated in 3,6,10th and 11th house, then the person earn > and > > accumulate good money, If all natural benefics are in these houses > > then Much more money ( count less). Narural benefics are Jupiter, > > Venus, Mercury and Wanning Moon. > > Now in this chart From Moon : Jupiter is situated in 6th place. > > From Lagna : Mercury is in 3rd place > > From Sun : Moon is in 6th place, and Jupiter is in 11th place. > > So Jupiter, Mercury, and Moon are satisfying these conditions. > > So we can say he will have very good wealth.( This law I my > self > > have not checked in many charts) > > > > About the chart: > > Here Moon and Mars are Raj Yog karak. ( Moon lord of Centre is > > situated in 9th ( Trikona) and Mars is lord of Centre and trine > > house. > > All the planets ( except Moon) are with less points (4 or less > > then 4 points) > > But studying at a glance, this person can not have marrital > > happiness, or happiness from his mother. Handsome, well formed > body, > > Vertical forhead, sensative, emotional, romantic, overcomes all > > compititors, No brother or brother may suffer, with good > > communication skill, Possible association with dancers or singers, > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > > wrote: > > > Hello Sanjay, > > > I looked at the worksheet of Bill Gates and then consulted > > > the www.astrodatabank.com where I found following TOB for > > > this person > > > Born in Seattle (WA) USA at 10 pm or 22 h 47N36 - 122W20. > > > This gives a 4°44 cancer as with Jupiter in the 2nd/ Mars > > > and Mercury in the 3th/ Sun, Venus and Saturn in the 4th > > > /Rahu in the 5th and Moon in the 9th. > > > Moon as 12th from the 2nd can not harm Mars and Mercury so > > > points become very different in the worksheet. > > > He also had some trouble in 2000/2001 sun sub, so this > > > seems to match > > > Astrodatabank seems to be reliable as to birthdata > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: > > > 4/19/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Dear Sanjay, If I have typed Waning, please correct it and Read it as Waxing. Thanks for pointing out krushna , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji and Margarita, > > Thank you for your responses to the question of Bill Gates. I will study > these details. > > Of course, I was aware that celebrity time data is unreliable. However, we > managed to get some more rules from this. > > Krushnaji, you mentioned a waning Moon as a benefic. Isn't it supposed to be > a waxing Moon? That means a Moon in shukla paksh is benefic and Moon in > krishna paksh is malefic. Is this correct? > > Books also say that unassociated Mercury or benefically associated is > benefic. Mercury is usually with Sun which is a natural malefic. So is > Mercury usually malefic? This would leave only Jupiter and Venus as > unconditional natural malefics. > > kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Dear Sanjay, Sun is not considered as Malefic. It is alloted 48 points for benefic result and equal points 48 for malefic results. It called as Cruel, Not malefic. krushna , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji and Margarita, > > Thank you for your responses to the question of Bill Gates. I will study > these details. > > Of course, I was aware that celebrity time data is unreliable. However, we > managed to get some more rules from this. > > Krushnaji, you mentioned a waning Moon as a benefic. Isn't it supposed to be > a waxing Moon? That means a Moon in shukla paksh is benefic and Moon in > krishna paksh is malefic. Is this correct? > > Books also say that unassociated Mercury or benefically associated is > benefic. Mercury is usually with Sun which is a natural malefic. So is > Mercury usually malefic? This would leave only Jupiter and Venus as > unconditional natural malefics. > > kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 DEAR MR VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill Gates has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising sign. The most effective point of every house in his chart is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. JUPITER IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE VENUS IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE THREE IN LIBRA . COMING TO SA SYSTEM . 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE IN MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu in the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY REG STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE RAHU AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN MEP.. " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE COMBINATION IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN SO MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR SAYING THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN OLD AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. SO ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN IS IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR BILL GATES. 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT WEAK ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK DISPOSITOR IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO NEED TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT ONLY MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD IN THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER PLANETS ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY NEGATIVE FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND KETU ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY KETU, WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON AND SO FORTH . KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, Bill Gates has done much over the past several years to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with his enormous charitable work/charitable contributions. During the main-period of badly placed, debilitated Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and wandered around somewhat aimlessly. His real boom occurred during the main-period of Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his exalted L9 Saturn. Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and exalted despite the influence of Ketu. His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the 10th and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly placed. Best Wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill Gates has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising sign. The most effective point of every house in his chart is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. JUPITER IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE VENUS IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE THREE IN LIBRA . COMING TO SA SYSTEM . 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE IN MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu in the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY REG STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE RAHU AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN MEP.. " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE COMBINATION IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD IN THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN SO MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR SAYING THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN OLD AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. SO ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN IS IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR BILL GATES. 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT WEAK ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK DISPOSITOR IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO NEED TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT ONLY MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD IN THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER PLANETS ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY NEGATIVE FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND KETU ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY KETU, WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON AND SO FORTH . KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 DEAR MR ARUN RAO, AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD .. WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER BECOMING RICH . I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY IN 4TH HOUSE. PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Bill Gates has done much over the past several years > to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with > his enormous charitable work/charitable > contributions. > > During the main-period of badly placed, debilitated > Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and > wandered around somewhat aimlessly. > > His real boom occurred during the main-period of > Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his > exalted L9 Saturn. > > Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and > exalted despite the influence of Ketu. > > His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the 10th > and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. > > Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly > placed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR > VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES > > FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . > > HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill > Gates > has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of > Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising > sign. > The most effective point of every house in his > chart > is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN > TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. > JUPITER > IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 > > DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN > PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE > VENUS > IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE > THREE > IN LIBRA . > > COMING TO SA SYSTEM . > > 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES > > BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE > IN > MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu > in > the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND > > THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY > REG > STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE > RAHU > AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN > MEP.. > > " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . > SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE > COMBINATION > IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. > > 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD > IN > THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . > > 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT > > TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN > SO > MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR > SAYING > THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN > OLD > AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. > SO > ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN > IS > IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR > BILL > GATES. > > 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT > WEAK > ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK > DISPOSITOR > IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT > BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . > > 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR > COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF > NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO > NEED > TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE > ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT > EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT > ONLY > MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. > > OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD > > MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD > IN > THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . > > BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT > DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US > > CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL > GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT > CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER > PLANETS > ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . > > LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM > AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE > THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY > NEGATIVE > FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND > KETU > ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY > KETU, > WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON > AND SO FORTH . > > KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it > out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Dear Mr Sadasivan Gopalkrishnan, The success of Bill Gates is due to:- 1) Ve in MTH exact to the MEP inf. 5H, 11H 2) Sa conj Ve very close to MEP inf. 5H, 7H, 11H, 2H 3) Me in MTH close to MEP inf 4H, 10H 4) Sa functions as a second Sun in this chart 5) All planets are placed well except for the axis. 6) Venus MD ran from 1982 to 2001 7) Ju forms a wide aspect to 2H Many of the evils promised by Ra/Ke's close association with all even signed houses quite possibly have been propitiated by his huge charitable works. H2 and H4 are the only ones with MT signs. You may say that H2's Ra inf is helped by Sa and Ju, H4's Ke-Me and Ke/H4 MEP inf is helped by Me in its MTH close to the MEP. For a greatness in a chart, powerful, benefic planets must form close associations to the MEPs. There is no need for any other astrology in my humble opinion. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " <sadasivan_g Monday, July 17, 2006 12:39 PM Re: BILL GATES > DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING > MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH > THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE > WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE > POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK > SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH > SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS > FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD > YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE > BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD > . WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, > ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH > THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, > THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN > CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS > ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . > > RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY > CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER > BECOMING RICH . > > I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . > > 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 > COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT > BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE > 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI > YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL > FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. > > 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY > IN 4TH HOUSE. > > PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM > SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > >> Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, >> >> Bill Gates has done much over the past several years >> to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with >> his enormous charitable work/charitable >> contributions. >> >> During the main-period of badly placed, debilitated >> Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and >> wandered around somewhat aimlessly. >> >> His real boom occurred during the main-period of >> Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his >> exalted L9 Saturn. >> >> Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and >> exalted despite the influence of Ketu. >> >> His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the 10th >> and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. >> >> Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly >> placed. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g >> wrote: DEAR MR >> VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, >> >> I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES >> >> FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . >> >> HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill >> Gates >> has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of >> Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising >> sign. >> The most effective point of every house in his >> chart >> is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN >> TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. >> JUPITER >> IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 >> >> DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN >> PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE >> VENUS >> IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE >> THREE >> IN LIBRA . >> >> COMING TO SA SYSTEM . >> >> 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES >> >> BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE >> IN >> MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu >> in >> the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH >> HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND >> >> THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY >> REG >> STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE >> RAHU >> AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN >> MEP.. >> >> " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . >> SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE >> COMBINATION >> IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. >> >> 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD >> IN >> THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . >> >> 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT >> >> TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN >> SO >> MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR >> SAYING >> THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN >> OLD >> AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. >> SO >> ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN >> IS >> IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR >> BILL >> GATES. >> >> 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT >> WEAK >> ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK >> DISPOSITOR >> IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT >> BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . >> >> 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR >> COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF >> NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO >> NEED >> TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE >> ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT >> EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT >> ONLY >> MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. >> >> OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD >> >> MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD >> IN >> THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . >> >> BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT >> DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US >> >> CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL >> GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT >> CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER >> PLANETS >> ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . >> >> LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM >> AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE >> THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY >> NEGATIVE >> FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND >> KETU >> ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY >> KETU, >> WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON >> AND SO FORTH . >> >> KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. >> >> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN >> >> >> >> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it >> out. >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, The good placement of planets is the most important thing for long-run successes. Even if they are weak for various reasons, they will give results unless they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial as well. Strength of course speaks for itself. When one is getting used to a new approach/system, it is easy to get bogged down with counting weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly useful, it does not necessarily give us the broader picture. Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad placements are serious detriments because a planet is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest opinion. The best charts are those when all of the planets are well-placed and combust planets are close to zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in all likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example of someone who has severe afflictions yet has all his 7 planets plus the nodes in good placement. A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. Mr. Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed and strong professional determinant planet Saturn near the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted have given him many low times as well, including severe health-related problems. But the good influences have supported him as well. I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my main-period of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu mahadasha at present and the same sub-periods that were giving me effortless results earlier on have not done so to the same extent. When one gains experience using only SA, there is absolutely no need for any other system/principles. Being one who has been around the block with vedic astrology, I say this with absolute unprejudiced confidence. Best of wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD . WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER BECOMING RICH . I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY IN 4TH HOUSE. PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Bill Gates has done much over the past several years > to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with > his enormous charitable work/charitable > contributions. > > During the main-period of badly placed, debilitated > Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and > wandered around somewhat aimlessly. > > His real boom occurred during the main-period of > Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his > exalted L9 Saturn. > > Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and > exalted despite the influence of Ketu. > > His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the 10th > and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. > > Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly > placed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR > VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES > > FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . > > HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill > Gates > has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of > Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising > sign. > The most effective point of every house in his > chart > is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN > TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. > JUPITER > IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 > > DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN > PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE > VENUS > IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE > THREE > IN LIBRA . > > COMING TO SA SYSTEM . > > 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES > > BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE > IN > MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu > in > the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND > > THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY > REG > STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE > RAHU > AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN > MEP.. > > " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . > SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE > COMBINATION > IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. > > 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD > IN > THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . > > 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT > > TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN > SO > MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR > SAYING > THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN > OLD > AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. > SO > ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN > IS > IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR > BILL > GATES. > > 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT > WEAK > ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK > DISPOSITOR > IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT > BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . > > 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR > COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF > NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO > NEED > TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE > ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT > EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT > ONLY > MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. > > OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD > > MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD > IN > THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . > > BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT > DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US > > CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL > GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT > CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER > PLANETS > ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . > > LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM > AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE > THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY > NEGATIVE > FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND > KETU > ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY > KETU, > WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON > AND SO FORTH . > > KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it > out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear Mr.ArunRao and Mr.Gopalkrishnan, Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very interesting,specifically for person like me who is learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It really reveals art of interpretation and gives more confidence. Thanks once again. Bipin Vasavada Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, The good placement of planets is the most important thing for long-run successes. Even if they are weak for various reasons, they will give results unless they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial as well. Strength of course speaks for itself. When one is getting used to a new approach/system, it is easy to get bogged down with counting weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly useful, it does not necessarily give us the broader picture. Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad placements are serious detriments because a planet is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest opinion. The best charts are those when all of the planets are well-placed and combust planets are close to zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in all likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example of someone who has severe afflictions yet has all his 7 planets plus the nodes in good placement. A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. Mr. Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed and strong professional determinant planet Saturn near the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted have given him many low times as well, including severe health-related problems. But the good influences have supported him as well. I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my main-period of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu mahadasha at present and the same sub-periods that were giving me effortless results earlier on have not done so to the same extent. When one gains experience using only SA, there is absolutely no need for any other system/principles. Being one who has been around the block with vedic astrology, I say this with absolute unprejudiced confidence. Best of wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD .. WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER BECOMING RICH . I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY IN 4TH HOUSE. PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Bill Gates has done much over the past several years > to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with > his enormous charitable work/charitable > contributions. > > During the main-period of badly placed, debilitated > Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and > wandered around somewhat aimlessly. > > His real boom occurred during the main-period of > Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his > exalted L9 Saturn. > > Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and > exalted despite the influence of Ketu. > > His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the 10th > and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. > > Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly > placed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR > VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES > > FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . > > HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill > Gates > has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of > Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising > sign. > The most effective point of every house in his > chart > is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN > TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. > JUPITER > IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 > > DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN > PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE > VENUS > IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE > THREE > IN LIBRA . > > COMING TO SA SYSTEM . > > 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES > > BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE > IN > MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu > in > the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND > > THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY > REG > STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE > RAHU > AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN > MEP.. > > " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . > SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE > COMBINATION > IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. > > 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD > IN > THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . > > 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT > > TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN > SO > MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR > SAYING > THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN > OLD > AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. > SO > ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN > IS > IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR > BILL > GATES. > > 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT > WEAK > ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK > DISPOSITOR > IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT > BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . > > 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR > COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF > NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO > NEED > TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE > ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT > EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT > ONLY > MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. > > OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD > > MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD > IN > THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . > > BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT > DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US > > CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL > GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT > CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER > PLANETS > ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . > > LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM > AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE > THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY > NEGATIVE > FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND > KETU > ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY > KETU, > WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON > AND SO FORTH . > > KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it > out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear Bipin Vasavada, Stick with the SATVA and confidence will naturally come. Best of wishes, Arun bipin vasavada <bcvrbv212 wrote: Dear Mr.ArunRao and Mr.Gopalkrishnan, Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very interesting,specifically for person like me who is learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It really reveals art of interpretation and gives more confidence. Thanks once again. Bipin Vasavada Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, The good placement of planets is the most important thing for long-run successes. Even if they are weak for various reasons, they will give results unless they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial as well. Strength of course speaks for itself. When one is getting used to a new approach/system, it is easy to get bogged down with counting weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly useful, it does not necessarily give us the broader picture. Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad placements are serious detriments because a planet is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest opinion. The best charts are those when all of the planets are well-placed and combust planets are close to zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in all likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example of someone who has severe afflictions yet has all his 7 planets plus the nodes in good placement. A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. Mr. Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed and strong professional determinant planet Saturn near the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted have given him many low times as well, including severe health-related problems. But the good influences have supported him as well. I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my main-period of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu mahadasha at present and the same sub-periods that were giving me effortless results earlier on have not done so to the same extent. When one gains experience using only SA, there is absolutely no need for any other system/principles. Being one who has been around the block with vedic astrology, I say this with absolute unprejudiced confidence. Best of wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD . WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER BECOMING RICH . I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY IN 4TH HOUSE. PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Bill Gates has done much over the past several years > to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with > his enormous charitable work/charitable > contributions. > > During the main-period of badly placed, debilitated > Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and > wandered around somewhat aimlessly. > > His real boom occurred during the main-period of > Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his > exalted L9 Saturn. > > Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and > exalted despite the influence of Ketu. > > His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the 10th > and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. > > Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly > placed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR > VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES > > FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . > > HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill > Gates > has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of > Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising > sign. > The most effective point of every house in his > chart > is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN > TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. > JUPITER > IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 > > DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN > PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE > VENUS > IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE > THREE > IN LIBRA . > > COMING TO SA SYSTEM . > > 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES > > BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE > IN > MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu > in > the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH > HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND > > THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY > REG > STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE > RAHU > AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN > MEP.. > > " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . > SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE > COMBINATION > IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. > > 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD > IN > THE 4TH HOUSE . BUT AFFLICTED BY KETU . > > 3) 9TH LORD SATURN IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND THAT > > TOO EXALTED. BUT IN OLD AGE. I HAVE SEEN > SO > MANY REMARKS AUTHORED BYN THE PROFESSOR > SAYING > THAT " 10TH LORD IS IN 10TH HOUSE BUT IN > OLD > AGE " . 2ND LORD IS EXALTED BUT IN INFANCY. > SO > ON AND SO FORTH. THE BOTTOM LIN IS SATURN > IS > IN OLD AGE. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR > BILL > GATES. > > 4) 7TH LORD JUPITER IS IN 3RD HOUSE BUT > WEAK > ON TWO COUNTS 1) IN INFANCY 2) WEAK > DISPOSITOR > IE SUN IS DEBILITAED . SA SYSTEM DOES NOT > BELIEVE IN NEECHABHNGA RAJAYOGA . > > 5) THE THIRD LORD SUN , THE PLANET FOR > COURAGE, ENTRPRENEURSHIP IS DEBILITATED . IF > NEECHA BHANGA RAJAYOGA IS ACCEPTABLE , NO > NEED > TO PANIC. SUN WILL CONFER ON HIM ALL THE > ENTREPRENEURIAL QUALITIES . BILL GATES HAS GOT > EXCELLENT ENTRPRENEUR SHIP QUALITIES . THAT > ONLY > MEANS " NEECHABANGA RAJA YOGA " IS CORRECT. > > OF COURSE, THE CLOSE ASPECT OF THE 2ND LORD > > MOON AND THE 11TH LORD MARS, THE 5TH LORD > IN > THE 5TH HOUSE ETC WILL MAKE ONE RICH . > > BUT WILL IT MAKE A BILL GATES? LET US NOT > DECEIVE OURSELVES AND BE HYPOCRITES . LET US > > CALL A SPADE A SPADE . LET US ANALYSE BILL > GATES'S HOROSCOPE DISPASSIONATELY . I AM NOT > CRITICISING SA BUT MY DOUBT IS WHETHER > PLANETS > ALONE IS SUFF TO BE HIGH . > > LET ME BE FRANK. I HAVE SEEN MANY IIM > AHMEDABAD 'S HOROSCOPES. RICH DHANA YOGAS ARE > THERE . BILL GATES HOROSCOPE HAS MANY > NEGATIVE > FEATURES NAMELY THE POSITION OF RAHU AND > KETU > ON THE MEP, MERCURY GETTING AFFLICTED BY > KETU, > WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER , WEAK SATURN SO ON > AND SO FORTH . > > KINDLY THROW YOUR COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE. > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it > out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 DEAR MR ARUN RAO, THE FACT THAT I AM COMMUNICATING TO YOU ALL IS BECAUSE I GOT FASCINATED BY THE SA SYSTEM. BUT I HAVE ONE REQUEST . WHEN A HOROSCOPE IS TAKEN FOR ANALYSIS , IT SHOULD NOT BE TOLD TO THE ASTROLGER WHOSE HOROSCOPE HE IS ANALYSING. IF IT IS AMITABH BACHAN, THEN WE WILL SAY THE ENTIRE SATURN DASA WAS GOOD NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY WEAK PLANETS. IF WE SAY THAT IT IS A BANK OFFICER'S HOROSCOPE AND SAY THAT HE IS HAVING SOME PROBLEM, THEN WE WILL SAY THAT THOUGH SATURN DASA MIGHT BE GOOD, THE BHUKTIS OF WEAK PLANETS MIGHT TAKE A BEATING. TALKING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION , ANALYSING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION, DOING POST MARTEM ANALYSIS ETC ARE THINGS WHICH I DESPISE . OF COURSE I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS. PROF HIMSELF HAS QUOTED THAT 5TH LORD IS IN 5TH BUT COULD NOT EXCEL IN HIS BHUKTI BECAUSE 5TH LORD IS IN INFANCY. SOMETIMES IT MAY BE DUE TO OLD AGE OR DUE TO COMBUSTION. BUT ANALYSIS CHANGING FOR PERSONALITIES IS SOMETHING HARD TO DIGEST. I AM SAYING THAT NOT ONLY SA , ALL ASTROLOGERS SHOULD STOP DOING POST MARTEM ANALYSIS AND VENTURE INTO BOLD PREDICTIONS TO PROVE ASTROLOGY IS A SCIENCE. PROF HAS AT LEAST COME OUT WITH A SYSTEM . OTHERS BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Bipin Vasavada, > > Stick with the SATVA and confidence will naturally > come. > > Best of wishes, > > Arun > > bipin vasavada <bcvrbv212 wrote: > Dear Mr.ArunRao and > Mr.Gopalkrishnan, > Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very > interesting,specifically for person like me who is > learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It > really reveals art of interpretation and gives more > confidence. > Thanks once again. > Bipin Vasavada > > Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > The good placement of planets is the most important > thing for long-run successes. Even if they are weak > for various reasons, they will give results unless > they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial as > well. Strength of course speaks for itself. > > When one is getting used to a new approach/system, > it is easy to get bogged down with counting > weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly > useful, it does not necessarily give us the broader > picture. > > Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, > can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad > placements are serious detriments because a planet > is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest opinion. > > The best charts are those when all of the planets > are well-placed and combust planets are close to > zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in all > likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example of > someone who has severe afflictions yet has all his 7 > planets plus the nodes in good placement. > > A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the > deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. Mr. > Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of > this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted > planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed and > strong professional determinant planet Saturn near > the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may > never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted have > given him many low times as well, including severe > health-related problems. But the good influences > have supported him as well. > > I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my main-period > of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed > and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu mahadasha > at present and the same sub-periods that were giving > me effortless results earlier on have not done so to > the same extent. > > When one gains experience using only SA, there is > absolutely no need for any other system/principles. > Being one who has been around the block with vedic > astrology, I say this with absolute unprejudiced > confidence. > > Best of wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING > MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH > THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE > WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE > POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK > SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH > SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS > FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD > YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE > BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD > . WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, > ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH > THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, > THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN > CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS > ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . > > RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY > CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER > BECOMING RICH . > > I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . > > 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 > COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT > BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE > 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI > YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL > FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. > > 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY > IN 4TH HOUSE. > > PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM > SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > Bill Gates has done much over the past several > years > > to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with > > his enormous charitable work/charitable > > contributions. > > > > During the main-period of badly placed, > debilitated > > Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and > > wandered around somewhat aimlessly. > > > > His real boom occurred during the main-period of > > Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his > > exalted L9 Saturn. > > > > Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and > > exalted despite the influence of Ketu. > > > > His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the > 10th > > and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. > > > > Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly > > placed. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > > wrote: DEAR MR > > VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES > > > > FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . > > > > HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill > > Gates > > has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of > > Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising > > sign. > > The most effective point of every house in his > > chart > > is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN > > TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. > > JUPITER > > IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 > > > > DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN > > PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE > > VENUS > > IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE > > THREE > > IN LIBRA . > > > > COMING TO SA SYSTEM . > > > > 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES > > > > BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE > > IN > > MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu > > in > > the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH > > HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND > > > > THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY > > REG > > STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE > > RAHU > > AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN > > MEP.. > > > > " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . > > SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE > > COMBINATION > > IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. > > > > 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, Agreed. No jyotishi worth his or her salt should stake their reputations on the post-mortem analyses you refer to. If you continue to learn SA with patience and study hundreds upon hundreds of horoscopes using only SA, you would understand that weak but well-placed planets, especially those who are exalted and/or in their mooltrikona signs and are involved in auspicious close conjunctions, can still give good to very good results. There is nothing new whatsoever in this principle. When given a horoscope, the duty of the astrologer is to point out the strengths and weaknesses therein, suggest remedial measures, and answer any questions posed by the querent. If one asks the astrologer " Can I rise to great heights in life? " , he or she should study the planetary influences in a chart, the strengths/weaknesses of the planets, and the tendencies of the upcoming planetary periods over a given time frame and then give their best answer. In the case of Mr. Bachchan, we have no choice but to do a post-mortem analysis. On the whole, Mr. Bachchan's Saturn main-period would indeed be a period of greater success relative to his other main periods. The intensity of difficulty of the sub-periods in the main-period of a strong FB planet, let alone one who is influencing the MEP of important houses and the primary professional determinant, will be less than the same of those in a weak or FM main-period. This is a built-in part of SA. In his ensuing main-period of almost strong L8 Mercury, he has faced many challenges on the health, financial, and professional front but has still had successes because of his fame and connections in Bollywood. Here, we see the lord of the 8th house of easy gains in effect along with its role as the MMP causing severe afflictions. Saturn and Mercury are Mr. Bachchan's strongest planets. A large chunk of his successes are on the account of these planets' particular significations alone. A while ago, I posted Hollywood actor Ben Affleck's chart on the list and asked if his rise could be predicted beforehand without using SA. In my view, the answer would be a clear cut no. Without SA, his chart looks blase. With SA it comes to life quite demonstratively. Best of wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, THE FACT THAT I AM COMMUNICATING TO YOU ALL IS BECAUSE I GOT FASCINATED BY THE SA SYSTEM. BUT I HAVE ONE REQUEST . WHEN A HOROSCOPE IS TAKEN FOR ANALYSIS , IT SHOULD NOT BE TOLD TO THE ASTROLGER WHOSE HOROSCOPE HE IS ANALYSING. IF IT IS AMITABH BACHAN, THEN WE WILL SAY THE ENTIRE SATURN DASA WAS GOOD NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY WEAK PLANETS. IF WE SAY THAT IT IS A BANK OFFICER'S HOROSCOPE AND SAY THAT HE IS HAVING SOME PROBLEM, THEN WE WILL SAY THAT THOUGH SATURN DASA MIGHT BE GOOD, THE BHUKTIS OF WEAK PLANETS MIGHT TAKE A BEATING. TALKING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION , ANALYSING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION, DOING POST MARTEM ANALYSIS ETC ARE THINGS WHICH I DESPISE . OF COURSE I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS. PROF HIMSELF HAS QUOTED THAT 5TH LORD IS IN 5TH BUT COULD NOT EXCEL IN HIS BHUKTI BECAUSE 5TH LORD IS IN INFANCY. SOMETIMES IT MAY BE DUE TO OLD AGE OR DUE TO COMBUSTION. BUT ANALYSIS CHANGING FOR PERSONALITIES IS SOMETHING HARD TO DIGEST. I AM SAYING THAT NOT ONLY SA , ALL ASTROLOGERS SHOULD STOP DOING POST MARTEM ANALYSIS AND VENTURE INTO BOLD PREDICTIONS TO PROVE ASTROLOGY IS A SCIENCE. PROF HAS AT LEAST COME OUT WITH A SYSTEM . OTHERS BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Bipin Vasavada, > > Stick with the SATVA and confidence will naturally > come. > > Best of wishes, > > Arun > > bipin vasavada <bcvrbv212 wrote: > Dear Mr.ArunRao and > Mr.Gopalkrishnan, > Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very > interesting,specifically for person like me who is > learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It > really reveals art of interpretation and gives more > confidence. > Thanks once again. > Bipin Vasavada > > Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > The good placement of planets is the most important > thing for long-run successes. Even if they are weak > for various reasons, they will give results unless > they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial as > well. Strength of course speaks for itself. > > When one is getting used to a new approach/system, > it is easy to get bogged down with counting > weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly > useful, it does not necessarily give us the broader > picture. > > Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, > can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad > placements are serious detriments because a planet > is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest opinion. > > The best charts are those when all of the planets > are well-placed and combust planets are close to > zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in all > likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example of > someone who has severe afflictions yet has all his 7 > planets plus the nodes in good placement. > > A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the > deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. Mr. > Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of > this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted > planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed and > strong professional determinant planet Saturn near > the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may > never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted have > given him many low times as well, including severe > health-related problems. But the good influences > have supported him as well. > > I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my main-period > of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed > and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu mahadasha > at present and the same sub-periods that were giving > me effortless results earlier on have not done so to > the same extent. > > When one gains experience using only SA, there is > absolutely no need for any other system/principles. > Being one who has been around the block with vedic > astrology, I say this with absolute unprejudiced > confidence. > > Best of wishes, > > Arun > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR ARUN RAO, > > AT THE OUTSET , LET ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING > MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPARE MY HOROSCOPE WITH > THAT OF BILL GATES'S . BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE > WOODS FOR THE TREES.YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE > POINTS OF THE WEAK SUN, WEAK JUPITER ,WEAK > SATURN , RAHU AND KETU. IDEALLY SYSTEMS APPROACH > SHOULD SUGGEST STRENGHTENING/PROPITIATORY METHODS > FOR ALL THE 5 PLANETS. VENUS PERIOD WAS GOOD > YOU ARE SAYING. MY DEAR FRIEND, WHAT ABOUT THE > BHUKTIS. WOULD THE ENTIRE DASA PERIOD BE GOOD > . WHEN IT COMES TO NATIVES LIKE BILL GATES, > ONE PLAYS AROUND WITH WORDS SAYING THAT THOUGH > THE SUN IS DEBILITATED , IT IS IN 5TH HOUSE, > THOUGH THE SATURN IS IN OLD AGE , IT IS IN > CONJUNCTION WITH 5TH HOUSE, THOUGH MERCURY IS > ASPECTED BY KETU, IT IS EXALTED . > > RAHU AND KETU AFFLICTION WERE MOVED BY > CHARITIES . HE MUST HAVE DONE CHARITY AFTER > BECOMING RICH . > > I CAN CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING OUTSIDE SA . > > 1) ADHI YOGA. - DR B.V RAMAN IN HIS 300 > COMBINATIONS HAS SAID THAT IF A PERSON HAS GOT > BENEFICS LIKE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER IN THE > 6,7,8 FROM THE MOON, HE IS SAID TO HAVE ADHI > YOGA .HERE MERCURY, VENUS AND JUPITER ARE ALL > FUNCTIONALLY BENEFICS. RESULT - MULTI MILLIONAIRE. > > 2) PANCHAMAHA YOGA- BHADRA YOGA. - EXALTED MERCURY > IN 4TH HOUSE. > > PANCHAMA YOGAS ARE COMMON. BUT ADHI YOGA, I AM > SEEING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE . > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > Bill Gates has done much over the past several > years > > to relieve the nodal influences in his chart with > > his enormous charitable work/charitable > > contributions. > > > > During the main-period of badly placed, > debilitated > > Ketu causing afflictions, he left Harvard and > > wandered around somewhat aimlessly. > > > > His real boom occurred during the main-period of > > Venus, who is L5 in its MT-sign and conjunct his > > exalted L9 Saturn. > > > > Moreover, Bill Gates' Mercury is well-placed and > > exalted despite the influence of Ketu. > > > > His lord of wealth, Moon, is well-placed in the > 10th > > and receives a good close aspect from L11 Mars. > > > > Your Mercury and lord of wealth is weak and badly > > placed. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > > wrote: DEAR MR > > VYAS, MR ARUN RAO AND OTHERS, > > > > I HAPPEN TO GET THE HOROSCOPE OF BILL GATES > > > > FROM THE NET WHICH IS GIVEN BELOW . > > > > HOROSCOPE FOR BILL GATESThe birth time for Bill > > Gates > > has been rectified by Professor V.K. Choudhry of > > Gurgaon, India. Bill Gates has a Gemini rising > > sign. > > The most effective point of every house in his > > chart > > is 21:58 degrees. KETU IS IN 24 DEGREES IN > > TAURUS. RAHU IS IN SCORPIO IN 24 DEG. > > JUPITER > > IS IN LEO IN 4 DEG. MARS IS IN VIRGO IN 16 > > > > DEGREE. MERCURY IS IN 23 DEGREE. MOON IS IN > > PISCES IN 14 DEGREE. SUN IS IN 11 DEGREE > > VENUS > > IN 26 DEG AND SATRUN IN 28 DEG ALL THE > > THREE > > IN LIBRA . > > > > COMING TO SA SYSTEM . > > > > 1)RAHU AND KETU ARE ASPECTING ALL THE HOUSES > > > > BY ASPECT AND BY POSITION. RAHU AND KETU ARE > > IN > > MEP. RAHU IS IN THE SIXTH HOUSE nd ketu > > in > > the 12th house. RAHU IS ASPECTING THE 10TH > > HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE AND KETU THE 4TH HOUSE AND > > > > THE 8TH HOUSE. WHEN I HAD RAISED A QUERY > > REG > > STOCK CRASH , I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THE > > RAHU > > AND KETU IN THE 6TH AND 12 TH HOUSE IN > > MEP.. > > > > " ONE SWALLOW DOES NOT MAKE A SUMMER " . > > SIMILARLY I AM NOT SAYING THAT ONE > > COMBINATION > > IS TAKEN FOR AN ARGUMENT. > > > > 2) MERCURY IS FORMING BHADRA YOGA. 4TH LORD > === message truncated === See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 DEAR MR ARUN, THANKS. LET ME ANALYSE SOME IMP PERSONALITIES HOROSCOPE USING SA. I WILL POST THE SAME IN THE GROUP MAIL ALSO . I AM NOT INTERSETD IN ATTACKING ANY SYSTEM BUT I SHOULD GET CONVINCED. THAT IS ALL . SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > Agreed. No jyotishi worth his or her salt should > stake their reputations on the post-mortem analyses > you refer to. > > If you continue to learn SA with patience and study > hundreds upon hundreds of horoscopes using only SA, > you would understand that weak but well-placed > planets, especially those who are exalted and/or in > their mooltrikona signs and are involved in > auspicious close conjunctions, can still give good > to very good results. There is nothing new > whatsoever in this principle. > > When given a horoscope, the duty of the astrologer > is to point out the strengths and weaknesses > therein, suggest remedial measures, and answer any > questions posed by the querent. If one asks the > astrologer " Can I rise to great heights in life? " , > he or she should study the planetary influences in a > chart, the strengths/weaknesses of the planets, and > the tendencies of the upcoming planetary periods > over a given time frame and then give their best > answer. > > In the case of Mr. Bachchan, we have no choice but > to do a post-mortem analysis. On the whole, Mr. > Bachchan's Saturn main-period would indeed be a > period of greater success relative to his other main > periods. The intensity of difficulty of the > sub-periods in the main-period of a strong FB > planet, let alone one who is influencing the MEP of > important houses and the primary professional > determinant, will be less than the same of those in > a weak or FM main-period. This is a built-in part of > SA. In his ensuing main-period of almost strong L8 > Mercury, he has faced many challenges on the health, > financial, and professional front but has still had > successes because of his fame and connections in > Bollywood. Here, we see the lord of the 8th house of > easy gains in effect along with its role as the MMP > causing severe afflictions. > > Saturn and Mercury are Mr. Bachchan's strongest > planets. A large chunk of his successes are on the > account of these planets' particular significations > alone. > > A while ago, I posted Hollywood actor Ben Affleck's > chart on the list and asked if his rise could be > predicted beforehand without using SA. In my view, > the answer would be a clear cut no. Without SA, his > chart looks blase. With SA it comes to life quite > demonstratively. > > Best of wishes, > > Arun > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > wrote: DEAR MR > ARUN RAO, > > THE FACT THAT I AM COMMUNICATING TO YOU ALL > > IS BECAUSE I GOT FASCINATED BY THE SA > SYSTEM. > BUT I HAVE ONE REQUEST . > > WHEN A HOROSCOPE IS TAKEN FOR ANALYSIS , IT > > SHOULD NOT BE TOLD TO THE ASTROLGER WHOSE > HOROSCOPE HE IS ANALYSING. IF IT IS AMITABH > BACHAN, THEN WE WILL SAY THE ENTIRE SATURN > DASA WAS GOOD NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT > THERE ARE MANY WEAK PLANETS. IF WE SAY THAT > > IT IS A BANK OFFICER'S HOROSCOPE AND SAY > THAT > HE IS HAVING SOME PROBLEM, THEN WE WILL SAY > THAT THOUGH SATURN DASA MIGHT BE GOOD, THE > BHUKTIS OF WEAK PLANETS MIGHT TAKE A > BEATING. > > TALKING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION , > ANALYSING > ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION, DOING POST MARTEM > ANALYSIS ETC ARE THINGS WHICH I DESPISE . OF > > COURSE I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS. PROF > HIMSELF HAS QUOTED THAT 5TH LORD IS IN 5TH > BUT COULD NOT EXCEL IN HIS BHUKTI BECAUSE > 5TH > LORD IS IN INFANCY. SOMETIMES IT MAY BE DUE > > TO OLD AGE OR DUE TO COMBUSTION. > > BUT ANALYSIS CHANGING FOR PERSONALITIES IS > SOMETHING HARD TO DIGEST. I AM SAYING THAT > NOT > ONLY SA , ALL ASTROLOGERS SHOULD STOP DOING > > POST MARTEM ANALYSIS AND VENTURE INTO BOLD > PREDICTIONS TO PROVE ASTROLOGY IS A SCIENCE. > PROF HAS AT LEAST COME OUT WITH A SYSTEM . > OTHERS BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Bipin Vasavada, > > > > Stick with the SATVA and confidence will > naturally > > come. > > > > Best of wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > bipin vasavada <bcvrbv212 wrote: > > > Dear Mr.ArunRao and > > Mr.Gopalkrishnan, > > Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very > > interesting,specifically for person like me who > is > > learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It > > really reveals art of interpretation and gives > more > > confidence. > > Thanks once again. > > Bipin Vasavada > > > > Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > The good placement of planets is the most > important > > thing for long-run successes. Even if they are > weak > > for various reasons, they will give results > unless > > they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial > as > > well. Strength of course speaks for itself. > > > > When one is getting used to a new > approach/system, > > it is easy to get bogged down with counting > > weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly > > useful, it does not necessarily give us the > broader > > picture. > > > > Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, > > can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad > > placements are serious detriments because a > planet > > is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest > opinion. > > > > The best charts are those when all of the > planets > > are well-placed and combust planets are close to > > zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in > all > > likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example > of > > someone who has severe afflictions yet has all > his 7 > > planets plus the nodes in good placement. > > > > A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the > > deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. > Mr. > > Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of > > this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted > > planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed > and > > strong professional determinant planet Saturn > near > > the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may > > never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted > have > > given him many low times as well, including > severe > > health-related problems. But the good influences > > have supported him as well. > > > > I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my > main-period > > of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed > > and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu > mahadasha > > at present and the same sub-periods that were > giving > > me effortless results earlier on have not done so > to > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, You ask good questions, and those are always welcome and encouraged. It is a pleasure to discuss with you. Patience is the key word. SA is simple and clear but there are subtleties that need to be comprehended with continued reading/learning and experience. Best of wishes, Arun , SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: > > DEAR MR ARUN, > > THANKS. LET ME ANALYSE SOME IMP PERSONALITIES > HOROSCOPE USING SA. I WILL POST THE SAME IN > THE GROUP MAIL ALSO . I AM NOT INTERSETD IN > ATTACKING ANY SYSTEM BUT I SHOULD GET > CONVINCED. THAT IS ALL . > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > Agreed. No jyotishi worth his or her salt should > > stake their reputations on the post-mortem analyses > > you refer to. > > > > If you continue to learn SA with patience and study > > hundreds upon hundreds of horoscopes using only SA, > > you would understand that weak but well-placed > > planets, especially those who are exalted and/or in > > their mooltrikona signs and are involved in > > auspicious close conjunctions, can still give good > > to very good results. There is nothing new > > whatsoever in this principle. > > > > When given a horoscope, the duty of the astrologer > > is to point out the strengths and weaknesses > > therein, suggest remedial measures, and answer any > > questions posed by the querent. If one asks the > > astrologer " Can I rise to great heights in life? " , > > he or she should study the planetary influences in a > > chart, the strengths/weaknesses of the planets, and > > the tendencies of the upcoming planetary periods > > over a given time frame and then give their best > > answer. > > > > In the case of Mr. Bachchan, we have no choice but > > to do a post-mortem analysis. On the whole, Mr. > > Bachchan's Saturn main-period would indeed be a > > period of greater success relative to his other main > > periods. The intensity of difficulty of the > > sub-periods in the main-period of a strong FB > > planet, let alone one who is influencing the MEP of > > important houses and the primary professional > > determinant, will be less than the same of those in > > a weak or FM main-period. This is a built-in part of > > SA. In his ensuing main-period of almost strong L8 > > Mercury, he has faced many challenges on the health, > > financial, and professional front but has still had > > successes because of his fame and connections in > > Bollywood. Here, we see the lord of the 8th house of > > easy gains in effect along with its role as the MMP > > causing severe afflictions. > > > > Saturn and Mercury are Mr. Bachchan's strongest > > planets. A large chunk of his successes are on the > > account of these planets' particular significations > > alone. > > > > A while ago, I posted Hollywood actor Ben Affleck's > > chart on the list and asked if his rise could be > > predicted beforehand without using SA. In my view, > > the answer would be a clear cut no. Without SA, his > > chart looks blase. With SA it comes to life quite > > demonstratively. > > > > Best of wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > > wrote: DEAR MR > > ARUN RAO, > > > > THE FACT THAT I AM COMMUNICATING TO YOU ALL > > > > IS BECAUSE I GOT FASCINATED BY THE SA > > SYSTEM. > > BUT I HAVE ONE REQUEST . > > > > WHEN A HOROSCOPE IS TAKEN FOR ANALYSIS , IT > > > > SHOULD NOT BE TOLD TO THE ASTROLGER WHOSE > > HOROSCOPE HE IS ANALYSING. IF IT IS AMITABH > > BACHAN, THEN WE WILL SAY THE ENTIRE SATURN > > DASA WAS GOOD NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT > > THERE ARE MANY WEAK PLANETS. IF WE SAY THAT > > > > IT IS A BANK OFFICER'S HOROSCOPE AND SAY > > THAT > > HE IS HAVING SOME PROBLEM, THEN WE WILL SAY > > THAT THOUGH SATURN DASA MIGHT BE GOOD, THE > > BHUKTIS OF WEAK PLANETS MIGHT TAKE A > > BEATING. > > > > TALKING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION , > > ANALYSING > > ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION, DOING POST MARTEM > > ANALYSIS ETC ARE THINGS WHICH I DESPISE . OF > > > > COURSE I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS. PROF > > HIMSELF HAS QUOTED THAT 5TH LORD IS IN 5TH > > BUT COULD NOT EXCEL IN HIS BHUKTI BECAUSE > > 5TH > > LORD IS IN INFANCY. SOMETIMES IT MAY BE DUE > > > > TO OLD AGE OR DUE TO COMBUSTION. > > > > BUT ANALYSIS CHANGING FOR PERSONALITIES IS > > SOMETHING HARD TO DIGEST. I AM SAYING THAT > > NOT > > ONLY SA , ALL ASTROLOGERS SHOULD STOP DOING > > > > POST MARTEM ANALYSIS AND VENTURE INTO BOLD > > PREDICTIONS TO PROVE ASTROLOGY IS A SCIENCE. > > PROF HAS AT LEAST COME OUT WITH A SYSTEM . > > OTHERS BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > > > Dear Bipin Vasavada, > > > > > > Stick with the SATVA and confidence will > > naturally > > > come. > > > > > > Best of wishes, > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > bipin vasavada <bcvrbv212 wrote: > > > > > Dear Mr.ArunRao and > > > Mr.Gopalkrishnan, > > > Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very > > > interesting,specifically for person like me who > > is > > > learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It > > > really reveals art of interpretation and gives > > more > > > confidence. > > > Thanks once again. > > > Bipin Vasavada > > > > > > Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > > The good placement of planets is the most > > important > > > thing for long-run successes. Even if they are > > weak > > > for various reasons, they will give results > > unless > > > they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial > > as > > > well. Strength of course speaks for itself. > > > > > > When one is getting used to a new > > approach/system, > > > it is easy to get bogged down with counting > > > weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly > > > useful, it does not necessarily give us the > > broader > > > picture. > > > > > > Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, > > > can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad > > > placements are serious detriments because a > > planet > > > is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest > > opinion. > > > > > > The best charts are those when all of the > > planets > > > are well-placed and combust planets are close to > > > zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in > > all > > > likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example > > of > > > someone who has severe afflictions yet has all > > his 7 > > > planets plus the nodes in good placement. > > > > > > A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the > > > deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. > > Mr. > > > Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of > > > this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted > > > planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed > > and > > > strong professional determinant planet Saturn > > near > > > the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may > > > never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted > > have > > > given him many low times as well, including > > severe > > > health-related problems. But the good influences > > > have supported him as well. > > > > > > I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my > > main-period > > > of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed > > > and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu > > mahadasha > > > at present and the same sub-periods that were > > giving > > > me effortless results earlier on have not done so > > to > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 There is Bill Gate's rectified chart available on SAMVA.. Ascendant comes out to be Cancer. On 7/18/06, Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > You ask good questions, and those are always welcome and encouraged. > It is a pleasure to discuss with you. > > Patience is the key word. SA is simple and clear but there are > subtleties that need to be comprehended with continued > reading/learning and experience. > > Best of wishes, > > Arun > > <%40>, SADASIVAN > GOPALAKRISHNAN > > <sadasivan_g wrote: > > > > DEAR MR ARUN, > > > > THANKS. LET ME ANALYSE SOME IMP PERSONALITIES > > HOROSCOPE USING SA. I WILL POST THE SAME IN > > THE GROUP MAIL ALSO . I AM NOT INTERSETD IN > > ATTACKING ANY SYSTEM BUT I SHOULD GET > > CONVINCED. THAT IS ALL . > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > > Agreed. No jyotishi worth his or her salt should > > > stake their reputations on the post-mortem analyses > > > you refer to. > > > > > > If you continue to learn SA with patience and study > > > hundreds upon hundreds of horoscopes using only SA, > > > you would understand that weak but well-placed > > > planets, especially those who are exalted and/or in > > > their mooltrikona signs and are involved in > > > auspicious close conjunctions, can still give good > > > to very good results. There is nothing new > > > whatsoever in this principle. > > > > > > When given a horoscope, the duty of the astrologer > > > is to point out the strengths and weaknesses > > > therein, suggest remedial measures, and answer any > > > questions posed by the querent. If one asks the > > > astrologer " Can I rise to great heights in life? " , > > > he or she should study the planetary influences in a > > > chart, the strengths/weaknesses of the planets, and > > > the tendencies of the upcoming planetary periods > > > over a given time frame and then give their best > > > answer. > > > > > > In the case of Mr. Bachchan, we have no choice but > > > to do a post-mortem analysis. On the whole, Mr. > > > Bachchan's Saturn main-period would indeed be a > > > period of greater success relative to his other main > > > periods. The intensity of difficulty of the > > > sub-periods in the main-period of a strong FB > > > planet, let alone one who is influencing the MEP of > > > important houses and the primary professional > > > determinant, will be less than the same of those in > > > a weak or FM main-period. This is a built-in part of > > > SA. In his ensuing main-period of almost strong L8 > > > Mercury, he has faced many challenges on the health, > > > financial, and professional front but has still had > > > successes because of his fame and connections in > > > Bollywood. Here, we see the lord of the 8th house of > > > easy gains in effect along with its role as the MMP > > > causing severe afflictions. > > > > > > Saturn and Mercury are Mr. Bachchan's strongest > > > planets. A large chunk of his successes are on the > > > account of these planets' particular significations > > > alone. > > > > > > A while ago, I posted Hollywood actor Ben Affleck's > > > chart on the list and asked if his rise could be > > > predicted beforehand without using SA. In my view, > > > the answer would be a clear cut no. Without SA, his > > > chart looks blase. With SA it comes to life quite > > > demonstratively. > > > > > > Best of wishes, > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g > > > > wrote: DEAR MR > > > ARUN RAO, > > > > > > THE FACT THAT I AM COMMUNICATING TO YOU ALL > > > > > > IS BECAUSE I GOT FASCINATED BY THE SA > > > SYSTEM. > > > BUT I HAVE ONE REQUEST . > > > > > > WHEN A HOROSCOPE IS TAKEN FOR ANALYSIS , IT > > > > > > SHOULD NOT BE TOLD TO THE ASTROLGER WHOSE > > > HOROSCOPE HE IS ANALYSING. IF IT IS AMITABH > > > BACHAN, THEN WE WILL SAY THE ENTIRE SATURN > > > DASA WAS GOOD NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT > > > THERE ARE MANY WEAK PLANETS. IF WE SAY THAT > > > > > > IT IS A BANK OFFICER'S HOROSCOPE AND SAY > > > THAT > > > HE IS HAVING SOME PROBLEM, THEN WE WILL SAY > > > THAT THOUGH SATURN DASA MIGHT BE GOOD, THE > > > BHUKTIS OF WEAK PLANETS MIGHT TAKE A > > > BEATING. > > > > > > TALKING ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION , > > > ANALYSING > > > ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION, DOING POST MARTEM > > > ANALYSIS ETC ARE THINGS WHICH I DESPISE . OF > > > > > > COURSE I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS. PROF > > > HIMSELF HAS QUOTED THAT 5TH LORD IS IN 5TH > > > BUT COULD NOT EXCEL IN HIS BHUKTI BECAUSE > > > 5TH > > > LORD IS IN INFANCY. SOMETIMES IT MAY BE DUE > > > > > > TO OLD AGE OR DUE TO COMBUSTION. > > > > > > BUT ANALYSIS CHANGING FOR PERSONALITIES IS > > > SOMETHING HARD TO DIGEST. I AM SAYING THAT > > > NOT > > > ONLY SA , ALL ASTROLOGERS SHOULD STOP DOING > > > > > > POST MARTEM ANALYSIS AND VENTURE INTO BOLD > > > PREDICTIONS TO PROVE ASTROLOGY IS A SCIENCE. > > > PROF HAS AT LEAST COME OUT WITH A SYSTEM . > > > OTHERS BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. > > > > > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN > > > > > > --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bipin Vasavada, > > > > > > > > Stick with the SATVA and confidence will > > > naturally > > > > come. > > > > > > > > Best of wishes, > > > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > bipin vasavada <bcvrbv212 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Mr.ArunRao and > > > > Mr.Gopalkrishnan, > > > > Your discussionon Bill gates chart is very > > > > interesting,specifically for person like me who > > > is > > > > learning and getting used to SATVA principles.It > > > > really reveals art of interpretation and gives > > > more > > > > confidence. > > > > Thanks once again. > > > > Bipin Vasavada > > > > > > > > Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > > > > The good placement of planets is the most > > > important > > > > thing for long-run successes. Even if they are > > > weak > > > > for various reasons, they will give results > > > unless > > > > they are utterly weak. MEP activation is crucial > > > as > > > > well. Strength of course speaks for itself. > > > > > > > > When one is getting used to a new > > > approach/system, > > > > it is easy to get bogged down with counting > > > > weaknesses/afflictions. While this is certainly > > > > useful, it does not necessarily give us the > > > broader > > > > picture. > > > > > > > > Afflictions, because they are dynamic in nature, > > > > can be moved with good deeds/propitiations. Bad > > > > placements are serious detriments because a > > > planet > > > > is, in essence, trapped. This is my honest > > > opinion. > > > > > > > > The best charts are those when all of the > > > planets > > > > are well-placed and combust planets are close to > > > > zero. Former US President Bill Clinton, who in > > > all > > > > likelihood has a Cancer ascendant, is an example > > > of > > > > someone who has severe afflictions yet has all > > > his 7 > > > > planets plus the nodes in good placement. > > > > > > > > A good main-period does indeed mask a lot of the > > > > deficiencies that the sub-period lords present. > > > Mr. > > > > Amitabh Bachchan's chart is a perfect example of > > > > this. He has badly placed/severely afflicted > > > > planets. Yet in the main-period of well-placed > > > and > > > > strong professional determinant planet Saturn > > > near > > > > the MEP, he rose like a phoenix to heights we may > > > > never say again. Of course his weak/afflicted > > > have > > > > given him many low times as well, including > > > severe > > > > health-related problems. But the good influences > > > > have supported him as well. > > > > > > > > I am a Leo ascendant like you, and my > > > main-period > > > > of MBP Mercury was sensational (it is well-placed > > > > and quite strong). However, I am in Ketu > > > mahadasha > > > > at present and the same sub-periods that were > > > giving > > > > me effortless results earlier on have not done so > > > to > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.