Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Dear Madam, Namasthe. Thank you very much for your kind words of appreciation. Regards, SBP. On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 Sally Spencer wrote : > Dear Mr. Bhagavadpada, > My goodness, what a lovely rendition or recounting of > the events as well as > acknowledgements. Thank you. We are > indeed blessed. > Aloha, > Sally > On 14 Apr 2006 01:40:57 -0000, Sankara Bhagavadpada < > sankarapada wrote: > > > > > > Glimpses of the Intl Conf on the Systems > Approach at Gurgaon, on Apr 8th > > & 9th ¢06. > > > > Dear Prof.Choudhry & the circle of SA > Astrologers, > > > > Namasthe. I was at the SA Intl Conf in Gurgaon > over the last weekend and > > thought it would be good to share some of my > blessings with fellow SA > > Astrologers, who for various reasons have been > unable to attend this Conf in > > person. Now, man is intimidated by numbers and > unconsciously equates success > > with bigger numbers! You could even say that being > in the grip of maya, > > quantity always impresses us rather than quality. > The SA Conf has been > > unlike many of the modern conferences and I > thought it will be a worthwhile > > lesson for us all, to do some stock-taking of its > virtues, now that we have > > been through it fully. > > > > #1. Small was beautiful : We were two among > 22 participants and were able > > to breathe very freely as the air was not heavy > with the weight of an overt > > or covert academic hierarchy. The smallness of the > numbers turned out to be > > a tremendous blessing, in that no one was 'lost > & drowned' in a sea of > > anonymity, as happens invariably in large > gatherings- except in those happy > > situations when a close circle of old-friends or > family bestows upon us the > > warmth of an emotional cover. Whether a foreigner > or an Indian, everyone > > must have definitely felt very secure at this SA > Conf. > > > > Serene Setting: Here in Club South, you felt > as though you were in a > > modern European retreat center, but with the > serene atmosphere of an > > establishment in the 18th Century! The Conf > verandah as well as restaurant > > were overlooking the pool & the lovely lawns > & could not have > > chosen a more serene setting for 'propelling the > wheels of learning' of the > > Systems Approach. > > > > Well-cared for Western SA Astrologers: > There were three American > > delegates and SA Astrologers with us; but, > neither they, nor the Indian > > delegates felt that participants belonged to > different cultures. Dr. Shayn > > Smith, President of the IIPA Chapter in Colorado; > Dr. Jonathan Miller, > > President of the IIPA Chapter in California and > Ms. Sloane Johnson, mixed > > freely with the Indian delegates and this was also > reciprocated and the only > > difficulty for the American delegates could > have been the heat of Delhi, as > > that was just beginning its peak period. Prof. > Choudhry's, Smt.Kiranji's > > and Sri Rajeshji's warm but unobtrusive > hospitality- as I could see- put > > our American SA Astrologers completely at ease. > > > > #2. An atmosphere of learning: With the smallness > of numbers giving us the > > comfort & 'family cohesion'; the Conf had > already begun on the 7th Apr > > itself; when had begun > talking to Dr. Shayn Smith in the > > lounge of the club! The Conf had a fluidic quality > to it, for it was the > > creation of whose attitude to life > was such that, life is > > best enjoyed & savoured only when one flows > with the movement of life, > > knowing that this is how the rhythms of God flow. > The 'family atmosphere' > > created a very welcome feeling and no participant > refrained from the joy of > > joining in the discussions. The friendliness of > the atmosphere was evident > > to even newcomers like my wife & myself and it > became an enjoyable 'Indian > > Conf ' when 's family joined the > Conf, in a spirit of warm > > support & sharing. > > > > #3. Mr. David Hawthorne's message: There was a > beautiful and sincere > > message from the President of the > > American chapter, Mr. David Hawthorne and one only > wished how much nicer > > it would have been if Mr. David Hawthorne as well > as Mr. Jo Cohen[from > > France] were also with us that morning. I could > sense the commitment of Mr. > > David Hawthorne to the SA and to . > > > > #4.Prof.Choudhry's overview of the SA in 2006: He, > briefly summed up the > > history of the SA and as is so characteristic of > his personality, even > > shared with us the fact that in the early years of > the SA, when it was still > > unfolding, he even went wrong with some of > the predictions in the > > beginning. Here was an example of a truly great > Master of his discipline > > whose joy came from his learning & sharing the > same with his fellow > > travellers, rather than from the pursuit of some > power & position. He > > shocked us by telling us that some bright IT > engineers needed no more than > > 16 hrs to get a working knowledge of the SA, and > this took them only some > > two months, at the rate of two one hour lectures > per week. > > > > An SA solution for a 'dacoits-problem': A telling > example of a difficult > > astrological problem was also placed by the Prof, > before us, in the course > > of his talk: the palatial residence of a Jaipur > royal family was occupied by > > dacoits-it appears. The dacoits and the Police > also being hand in glove; the > > legal owners of that royal premises, who were now > ousted, also did not have > > any possibility of taking the case to the Police. > All knew that anyone who > > dared to walk into the dacoit infested palatial > residence, was walking into > > the jaws of death. In these perilous circumstances, > the head of the family > > put the following question to the Prof. " > Here is my horoscope and those of > > my three sons. Which one of us will have to go > into the occupied palace, > > risking our life, with the sole purpose of > acquiring back the property into > > our hands. As a great astrologer, you can tell, > who has to play the role of > > the dare-devil? " Applying the SA sutras > pertinent to the variables of > > courage & longevity, was able > to nominate the hero! Such is > > the power of the SA-especially in the hands of its > creator. > > > > #5. SA solutions for 'Hard-problems': Other > mind-boggling questions put > > before by his clients were also > shared. In one instance, the > > only child of certain parents had to go in for an > emergency brain-surgery > > during the last week of March, 2006, near about > the day of the eclipse. The > > question was, whether the emergency surgery could > be performed on the > > eclipse day and the situation was so bad that the > surgeon was not even > > prepared to give a guarantee that the operation > would restore the child to > > normalcy. The verdict of the SA was that the > operation could be performed on > > the so-called dreaded day and that it would be > successful. In arriving at > > this verdict, explained how he had > used the SA sutra > > pertinent to the orb of maximum influence. There > was a third example of a > > 'hard problem' from the VA point of view, which > was, whether it would be > > propitious to buy a property worth $ 8,000, > 000 on the eclipse day? The Prof > > revealed the predictive power of the SA by > mentioning each of these 'hard > > problems' and how the SA shed such unambiguous > light on how one should > > actually proceed in such baffling matters in which > the stakes were high. > > Then he also gave an example of a Libra Asdt chart > in which the lord of the > > VH of speculation was exactly afflicted by the MMP > Me, in the deadly sign > > Scorpio, through mutual aspect. The individual in > question, not heeding the > > warning of the Prof, fell into misfortune when she > lost $ 1,000,000 in a > > single day's speculative move. > > > > #5. More on SA principles: Prof. V.K. Choudhry > stressed the importance of > > adhering to high spiritual & moral principles- > as an essential mandate for > > all astrologers. The importance of the disciplined > performance of remedial > > measures was also driven home & beautifully > illustrated in the case of an > > individual, who fled from home, leaving parents, > wife & children and > > returned back only after the wife had been > performing remedial measures for > > her own chart & the chart of her husband, for > a prolonged period of 4 yrs. > > Once again the 'concealed power' of the SA > remedial measures was brought to > > the fore. In this connection he also mentioned > that while the Rahu remedial > > measures may be applied to birds other than crows > in foreign lands; remedial > > measures for Ke involving stray dogs, hardly had a > reliable substitute in > > modern alien cultures. > > > > #6. Three kinds of fevers: Coming to the SA in the > sphere of medical > > astrology, revealed the pattern of > simplicity in all fevers > > and said these were only of durations 3, 7 & > 21 days as they were caused by > > the Tr of the fiery planets the Su, Ma & Ke > respectively over the Asdt > > variables. In the Tr of Ke if it were to become > stationary, then the '21 day > > fever' like chickenpox & typhoid would suffer > a prolongation with the onset > > of a relapse etc. One was left stunned by the > simplicity of the SA insight. > > > > #7.Prof.Choudhry on India: It invariably > happened that delegates took the > > discussions out of the Conf room and with them for > lunch & dinner, since > > was with us right through. The > light he threw on the future > > of India was very interesting. When I asked him > whether communism has a > > future in Indian politics, his unambiguous reply > was that at the center, > > there isn't any promise of a substantial future, > but that the question of > > this ideology at the level of the states, must be > separately seen to. He > > drew attention to the role of Me in the IT > revolution that is currently > > underway & added that so many planets in the > IIIH of communication & the > > placement of Me & Mo therein is what has > inclined the educated > > intelligentsia to this Mercurial & > intellectual vocations. In Prof. > > Choudhry's view, India is indeed heading for a > bright future, since the Su & > > the Mo main periods now lie in the offing. When > somebody put the question > > for remedial measures for the country, he > maintained that remedial measures > > will definitely help the country. Light was also > thrown on the whole > > question of duality, as exemplified in the chart > of the famous actor Sri. > > Amitabh Bacchan. > > > > #8. A very reassuring sutra: The discussions on > various charts continued > > outside the technical sessions of the Conf, among > the delegates themselves > > and also with throughout the course > of the 4 or 5 days. > > Interestingly when asked whether there were indeed > a few 'enigmatic charts', > > in which the trouble or misfortune was not > straightaway visible in the Rasi > > chart; he maintained that when SA light is thrown, > no chart can remain > > enigmatic & hide its patterns. This was a very > reassuring sutra! > > > > #9. The SA family feeling: Apart from having great > joy in repeated > > discussions with , I had much > pleasure either in discussing > > charts or some other matters with Sri. Rajeshji, > Smt. Kiranji, then with all > > three American delegates & with the > astrologers: Sri. Pradeep Sethi, Sri. > > Kumar Juraney, Dr(Mrs). Batra, Mr. & Dr(Mrs). > Sethi, Sri Jagadesh Sethi, > > Sri. Rajul Kaushik, Sri. Rajiv Jamwal, Sri. Aman > Deep Saini, Sri. Samarth > > and to a lesser extent with the other delegates as > well. > > > > #10. The trip to Taj Mahal: was a lovely > experience, especially since Prof > > & his full family joined us & the > opportunity was opened to us once more to > > learn directly in the course of ongoing satsangs > with the Prof. All Indian > > delegates as well as the delegates from the US, > had that SA 'family feeling' > > and the essence of the Conf was the spirit > of continuous learning, without > > any barrier between the Prof, his family & the > SA astrologers. A sumptuous > > lunch hosted by and Smt.Kiranji, at > Mughal Sheraton went > > very well with the regal splendour of the Taj! > > > > #11. SA sutras in Dharma and Moksha: On the first > day asked > > me to give an impromptu presentation of some 40 SA > sutras, which I had > > already gathered together as pertinent for the > spiritual life in the spheres > > of Dharma & Moksha. I began the session with > the latest SA sutra on > > 'Su-like' Hs & 'Su-like' lords, which has > appeared for the first time in the > > latest edition of Predictive Techniques. The IX, > II & III Hs enjoy a > > 'Su-like' power, which the other Hs do not > possess. There was much > > discussion on this sutra in the Conf and it came > spectacularly to life, when > > commented on the chart of the > present US President, Mr. > > George Bush Jr. In the chart of the President, the > IIIH lord Me functions > > like the Su & has been responsible for his > Presidentship & victory in > > political battles. The IIIH lord influences the > Asdt in this case & the Asdt > > lord is also placed in the IIIH. > > > > #12. SA in the spheres of Dharma & Moksha: On > the following day I gave a > > power point presentation on the Systems Approach > in the spheres of Dharma & > > Moksha[Technical session]. & > Sri. Rajeshji have been kind > > enough to post my PPP on the SA website, for which > I feel grateful. As this > > PPP is now available on the website, and as the 40 > odd SA sutras have also > > come on the net, more need not be said about them, > in this bulletin. I have > > mainly tried to cover the insights given by Prof. > Choudhry at this Conf, but > > what I have mentioned is in many respects, > incomplete. > > > > #13. The important role of women in this Intl > Conf: Smt.Kiranji, Smt. > > Taneshaji, Dr(Mrs). Batra, Dr(Mrs). Sethi, Ms. > Sloane Johnson, Dr(Mrs) > > Prema[my wife], Smt. Virmaniji, Smt.Renuji and > other Hindu mothers & > > spouses of the SA astrologers-their presence > definitely added a fullness & > > greater balance to the whole Conf and in > this family gathering we were > > witnessing one of the best values of the ancient > Hindu civilization, which > > is respect for women in their various stations in > life, as a mother, as a > > wife, as a sister, and as our spiritual-equals in > life, etc. > > > > #14. Gratitude to all !:Thank you , > for your inimitable > > wisdom & knowledge, thank you Smt. Kiranji for > being such a strong support & > > companion in the life of ; thank you > Sri. Rajeshji, for your > > pure heart, for your great intelligence & > selfless service. Thank you Smt. > > Taneshaji for bringing new light & new life > into the Prof's family & we felt > > so happy beholding the face of Sri. Vishnukant, > who is destined to carry > > forward the work of the Prof! We carry home the > blessings of profound > > learning & not just that, we have been > recipients of the magnanimous > > hospitality of & his entire > family. > > > > Thank you Dr. Shayn Smith, Dr. Jonathan Miller > & Ms. Sloane Johnson for > > being so friendly & for partaking in the ways > of our ancient Hindu culture. > > Thank you for having been a part of our SA family. > With so many planets > > placed in the IV Sign of Cancer, India, may never > be able to free herself of > > her 'family centeredness'-and a Cancer Asdt is > saying all this, at that! > > Thank you all SA astrologers, for your gentle, > open and friendly approach > > and for a generous sharing of your knowledge, in > which there was never a > > necessity to play any games. Thank you all for > drinking the waters of SA > > knowledge and wisdom, given to us by Prof. > Choudhry. May he and his family > > be always there for us, to show us the way. May > God be pleased with us all! > > Personally my wife Dr. Prema and myself, we are > grateful to our Masters Amma > > & Bhagavan, for their blessings, as well as > the blessings of my other > > beloved Masters, Sri.Ramana Maharshi and others. > Because of their > > blessings, we could have the extreme good fortune > of coming to know Prof. > > Choudhry, and his wonderful families: small and > large. > > Kind Regards, > > Sincerely yours > > Sankara Bhagavadpada > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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