Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Dear Donna, Ash, Bala Ji and list members, Namaste to all. I have taken up a female chart for timing the marriage date. Her birth details are- DOB - 06/05/1976, TOB -10:34 AM and POB -Tezpur (Assam), India. Long 92 E 49, Lat. 26 N 38 and KAY -22:37:21 Asc is 17 cn 11 According to natal chart lagna is Cancer occupying lgnalord Moon , fifth and 10th lord Mars who is debilitated and 7th lord Sat. 4th house of Libra is occupied by Rahu who is in vishakha nak.ruled by Jup 10th house of Aries is occupied by Sun (2nd lord), Jup (6L+9L) ,Venus(4L+11L) Ketu in Bharani nak.ruled by Venus. Here in this chart Mars is debilitated though debilitation is cancelled is in Dead condition and afflicted by Saturn. Now Jup is combust and aspected by Saturn .Saturn is also aspecting Venus ,a natural karaka for marriage and also a luminary the Sun.So the delay is visible.Now the question is ,How long? At present she is running with Ketu /Rahu antara which is up to 02 Dec 2005. After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). Sun,Venus,Jup and Mars is aspecting Rahu and house D so Rahu the AD lord is fulfilling the conditions of producing results.Now the problem is to find out the sectors and I am stuck up here.Since delay is already there and the transit of Sun is also inappropriate,the Antara of Rahu will pass away without giving any result.Afterwards antara of Jup. will starts who is carrying 25 points. Probably he may give the results for marriage. So my dear friends and other eminent astrologers it is requested that please comment on my approach and guide me analysing the charts with the help of this system. I shall be very grateful to you.Thanks and regards.Hope you will take up this chart. Ramesh Mishra India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Dear Donna, Ash, Bala Ji and list members, Namaste to all. I have taken up a female chart for timing the marriage date. Her birth details are- DOB - 06/05/1976, TOB -10:34 AM and POB -Tezpur (Assam), India. Long 92 E 49, Lat. 26 N 38 and KAY -22:37:21 Asc is 17 cn 11 According to natal chart lagna is Cancer occupying lgnalord Moon , fifth and 10th lord Mars who is debilitated and 7th lord Sat. 4th house of Libra is occupied by Rahu who is in vishakha nak.ruled by Jup 10th house of Aries is occupied by Sun (2nd lord), Jup (6L+9L) ,Venus(4L+11L) Ketu in Bharani nak.ruled by Venus. Here in this chart Mars is debilitated though debilitation is cancelled is in Dead condition and afflicted by Saturn. Now Jup is combust and aspected by Saturn .Saturn is also aspecting Venus ,a natural karaka for marriage and also a luminary the Sun.So the delay is visible.Now the question is ,How long? At present she is running with Ketu /Rahu antara which is up to 02 Dec 2005. After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). Sun,Venus,Jup and Mars is aspecting Rahu and house D so Rahu the AD lord is fulfilling the conditions of producing results.Now the problem is to find out the sectors and I am stuck up here.Since delay is already there and the transit of Sun is also inappropriate,the Antara of Rahu will pass away without giving any result.Afterwards antara of Jup. will starts who is carrying 25 points. Probably he may give the results for marriage. So my dear friends and other eminent astrologers it is requested that please comment on my approach and guide me analysing the charts with the help of this system. I shall be very grateful to you.Thanks and regards.Hope you will take up this chart. Ramesh Mishra India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Dear Ramesh and Balaji, If memory serves me right I have seen this chart and have commented to you maybe personally in an email a while back. This chart I might have seen u post on another list too. I had asked Balaji to post his chart to our list so that members could try to solve the chart and that would clear the basics. Please try to clear your fundamentals. In the chart Balaji has given he has given a lot of information 1) Marriage 2) Birth of Children 3) Health issues and he is not clear on why he was facing issues at particular time. 4) Diffulty in Job 5) He is a post graduate in mechanical engineering and MBA. Why that line ? 6) He forsees a job change why ? 7) The lagna is at border and it is said that there is a possiblity that the time maybe different. So here you can study both charts and come up with concerete reasons using KAS. I feel that by the time each of those quesitons are solved and in that journey one will learn a lot and a lot of basics will get cleared. My suggestion is that do not take your own charts or their loved ones to learn the basics on as one may get biased. Balaji, I hope that you would not mind answering some quetions or clarifications as and when they come up. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > Dear Donna, Ash, Bala Ji and list members, > Namaste to all. > I have taken up a female chart for timing the marriage date. Her birth details are- DOB - 06/05/1976, TOB -10:34 AM and POB -Tezpur (Assam), India. > Long 92 E 49, Lat. 26 N 38 and KAY -22:37:21 Asc is 17 cn 11 > According to natal chart lagna is Cancer occupying lgnalord Moon , fifth and 10th lord Mars who is debilitated and 7th lord Sat. > 4th house of Libra is occupied by Rahu who is in vishakha nak.ruled by Jup > 10th house of Aries is occupied by Sun (2nd lord), Jup (6L+9L) ,Venus(4L+11L) Ketu in Bharani nak.ruled by Venus. > Here in this chart Mars is debilitated though debilitation is cancelled is in Dead condition and afflicted by Saturn. Now Jup is combust and aspected by Saturn .Saturn is also aspecting Venus ,a natural karaka for marriage and also a luminary the Sun.So the delay is visible.Now the question is ,How long? > At present she is running with Ketu /Rahu antara which is up to 02 Dec 2005. > After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. > Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. > Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). Sun,Venus,Jup and Mars is aspecting Rahu and house D so Rahu the AD lord is fulfilling the conditions of producing results.Now the problem is to find out the sectors and I am stuck up here.Since delay is already there and the transit of Sun is also inappropriate,the Antara of Rahu will pass away without giving any result.Afterwards antara of Jup. will starts who is carrying 25 points. Probably he may give the results for marriage. > So my dear friends and other eminent astrologers it is requested that please comment on my approach and guide me analysing the charts with the help of this system. I shall be very grateful to you.Thanks and regards.Hope you will take up this chart. > Ramesh Mishra > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Dear Ash, Namaste, I wanted comment on my reading and proceedings in respect of the chart. As you know I am just learning this system I may be wrong while proceedings the event. Instead You r talking about the past charts which was read by you only and according to that the event's fruition is suspicious. Because I know this family member very closely.So need not to be biased by any one. After all astrologers know everything through the chart. Of course remedy can be suggested. However pls comment upon my readings and if it does not satisfy you ,pls tell me where I did mistake. I took the basic strength of all planets after reading the lesson # 22 . I think I made a mistake while calculating the strength of Venus. According to me this chart depicts the denial instead of delay.Reason being Venus is heavily afflicted. Jupiter is combust and Mars is Debilitated and in Mrit Avastha.Even in D9 three planets are debilitated Sun, Mercury and Mars. But I still see some rays of hope because Lagnalord is in own house and with 7th lord saturn in lagna Jupiter is aspecting house A and conjoined with LoA. However I am going through all the lessons of KAS. I hope you will take interest in this chart by commenting upon my readings.You need not to do anything except comment. Let me do my job. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishraashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh and Balaji,If memory serves me right I have seen this chart and have commented to you maybe personally in an email a while back. This chart I might have seen u post on another list too. I had asked Balaji to post his chart to our list so that members could try to solve the chart and that would clear the basics. Please try to clear your fundamentals.In the chart Balaji has given he has given a lot of information1) Marriage2) Birth of Children3) Health issues and he is not clear on why he was facing issues at particular time.4) Diffulty in Job5) He is a post graduate in mechanical engineering and MBA. Why that line ?6) He forsees a job change why ?7) The lagna is at border and it is said that there is a possiblity that the time maybe different. So here you can study both charts and come up with concerete reasons using KAS.I feel that by the time each of those quesitons are solved and in that journey one will learn a lot and a lot of basics will get cleared.My suggestion is that do not take your own charts or their loved ones to learn the basics on as one may get biased.Balaji, I hope that you would not mind answering some quetions or clarifications as and when they come up.Thanks,Cheers !!!Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Dear Donna, Ash, Bala Ji and list members,> Namaste to all.> I have taken up a female chart for timing the marriage date. Her birth details are- DOB - 06/05/1976, TOB -10:34 AM and POB -Tezpur (Assam), India.> Long 92 E 49, Lat. 26 N 38 and KAY -22:37:21 Asc is 17 cn 11> According to natal chart lagna is Cancer occupying lgnalord Moon , fifth and 10th lord Mars who is debilitated and 7th lord Sat.> 4th house of Libra is occupied by Rahu who is in vishakha nak.ruled by Jup> 10th house of Aries is occupied by Sun (2nd lord), Jup (6L+9L) ,Venus(4L+11L) Ketu in Bharani nak.ruled by Venus.> Here in this chart Mars is debilitated though debilitation is cancelled is in Dead condition and afflicted by Saturn. Now Jup is combust and aspected by Saturn .Saturn is also aspecting Venus ,a natural karaka for marriage and also a luminary the Sun.So the delay is visible.Now the question is ,How long?> At present she is running with Ketu /Rahu antara which is up to 02 Dec 2005.> After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below.> Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara.> Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). Sun,Venus,Jup and Mars is aspecting Rahu and house D so Rahu the AD lord is fulfilling the conditions of producing results.Now the problem is to find out the sectors and I am stuck up here.Since delay is already there and the transit of Sun is also inappropriate,the Antara of Rahu will pass away without giving any result.Afterwards antara of Jup. will starts who is carrying 25 points. Probably he may give the results for marriage. > So my dear friends and other eminent astrologers it is requested that please comment on my approach and guide me analysing the charts with the help of this system. I shall be very grateful to you.Thanks and regards.Hope you will take up this chart.> Ramesh Mishra> > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Dear Ramesh, Due to time constraint, I am not able to look at the chart and analysis. I will try to comment out in few days. Regards Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Respected Krushna Ji and Dona Ji, Best wishes, This has reference to my message no 8163 dated February 4, 2005. I had been waiting for your comments on my readings with respect to mentioned charts. Your silence could not be understood. Because I had doubt in the basic strength of Venus as calculated by me. I wanted your correction if it is wrong. I know you are all very busy in your commitments and I am too busy but we have to spare few minutes at least for list members. I have gone through almost all lessons and found it a very valuable items as a helping tools in Astrology. I am trying to find it out its authenticity by analysing the charts of the persons whom I know very closely so that events can be checked out by applying this system . This can be done only when my calculations are correct otherwise my labour and effort will go waste.For this purpose you all have to assist me and guide me as well. While going through lessons I found many points where I need discussions on the forum. But this is pending for future task.First I want to get prepared for this chart event.Hope this time You will spare your valuable time for me.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Dear Ramesh - I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program and adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and i wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are. After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to have to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the chart. All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, not 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line. Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, I would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as compared to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence over everything else here, but I'm not sure. . . Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his workload. . . . Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Donna and Group, My appologies for a quick mail due to lack of time. a) Check the sign and nakshtra that Rahu is placed in. Ra becomes SD to their lords. b) Check in the SAV for the place where Rahu is situated. Say for example in chart Rahu is placed in 4th house of the chart. Say Gemini is 4th hosue and Rahu is in nakshtra of Punarvasu. So Rahu becomes SD to Mercury (sign lord) and Guru (Nakshtra lord). c) Now check in SAV for 4th house where Rahu is placed and check the power of Me and Ju for 4th house in SAV. Say hypthetically Ju has power of 5 bindus and Me has power of 4, then in that case Rahu will behave more like Guru. d) Also one more thing to keep in mind which is important. Rahu and Ketu in House D or E become very eager to give result. So Rahu in 4th house will become eager to give results for 7th house and 11th house. Cheers !!! Ash , Donna Quinn <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > Dear Ramesh - > > I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program and adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and i wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are. > After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. > Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. > > Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to have to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the chart. All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, not 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line. > > Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E > > 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me > > > Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). > > When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, I would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as compared to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence over everything else here, but I'm not sure. . . > > Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his workload. . . . > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Donna and Group, The same applies for Ketu also. Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Donna and Group, > > My appologies for a quick mail due to lack of time. > > a) Check the sign and nakshtra that Rahu is placed in. Ra becomes SD > to their lords. > > b) Check in the SAV for the place where Rahu is situated. Say for > example in chart Rahu is placed in 4th house of the chart. Say > Gemini is 4th hosue and Rahu is in nakshtra of Punarvasu. So Rahu > becomes SD to Mercury (sign lord) and Guru (Nakshtra lord). > > c) Now check in SAV for 4th house where Rahu is placed and check the > power of Me and Ju for 4th house in SAV. Say hypthetically Ju has > power of 5 bindus and Me has power of 4, then in that case Rahu will > behave more like Guru. > > d) Also one more thing to keep in mind which is important. Rahu and > Ketu in House D or E become very eager to give result. > > So Rahu in 4th house will become eager to give results for 7th house > and 11th house. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Donna Quinn > <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh - > > > > I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program and > adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and i > wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are. > > After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic > strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So > pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets > is as below. > > Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and > Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so > friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do > not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has > been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and > good strength to produce the results in their Antara. > > > > Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to have > to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come > up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the chart. > All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, not > 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of > points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line. > > > > Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E > > > > 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me > > > > > > Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the > lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of > D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). > > > > When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be > Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, I > would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the > stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has > only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the > Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D > for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as compared > to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence over > everything else here, but I'm not sure. . . > > > > Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his > workload. . . . > > > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Ash and list members, I have a questioned in relation to point c as written below c) Now check in SAV for 4th house where Rahu is placed and check the > power of Me and Ju for 4th house in SAV. Say hypthetically Ju has > power of 5 bindus and Me has power of 4, then in that case Rahu will > behave more like Guru. What if both JU and ME both had 4 points ..how do we determine Ra will behave..Is it going to be half time as Ju, half time as Me Ken. , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Donna and Group, > The same applies for Ketu also. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Donna and Group, > > > > My appologies for a quick mail due to lack of time. > > > > a) Check the sign and nakshtra that Rahu is placed in. Ra becomes > SD > > to their lords. > > > > b) Check in the SAV for the place where Rahu is situated. Say for > > example in chart Rahu is placed in 4th house of the chart. Say > > Gemini is 4th hosue and Rahu is in nakshtra of Punarvasu. So Rahu > > becomes SD to Mercury (sign lord) and Guru (Nakshtra lord). > > > > c) Now check in SAV for 4th house where Rahu is placed and check > the > > power of Me and Ju for 4th house in SAV. Say hypthetically Ju has > > power of 5 bindus and Me has power of 4, then in that case Rahu > will > > behave more like Guru. > > > > d) Also one more thing to keep in mind which is important. Rahu > and > > Ketu in House D or E become very eager to give result. > > > > So Rahu in 4th house will become eager to give results for 7th > house > > and 11th house. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Donna Quinn > > <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh - > > > > > > I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program > and > > adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and > i > > wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are. > > > After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic > > strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So > > pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different > planets > > is as below. > > > Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and > > Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so > > friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I > do > > not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it > has > > been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and > > good strength to produce the results in their Antara. > > > > > > Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to > have > > to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come > > up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the > chart. > > All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, > not > > 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of > > points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line. > > > > > > Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E > > > > > > 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me > > > > > > > > > Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the > > lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house > of > > D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). > > > > > > When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be > > Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, > I > > would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the > > stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has > > only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the > > Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D > > for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as > compared > > to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence > over > > everything else here, but I'm not sure. . . > > > > > > Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his > > workload. . . . > > > > > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Ken, Then results will be of equal strength. Rahu and Ketu in House D or E are eager to give result. Cheers !!! AshKen <hoodoole wrote: Dear Ash and list members,I have a questioned in relation to point c as written belowc) Now check in SAV for 4th house where Rahu is placed and checkthe> power of Me and Ju for 4th house in SAV. Say hypthetically Ju has> power of 5 bindus and Me has power of 4, then in that case Rahuwill> behave more like Guru.What if both JU and ME both had 4 points ..how do we determine Ra will behave..Is it going to be half time as Ju, half time as MeKen. , "ashsam73" wrote:> > Dear Donna and Group,> The same applies for Ketu also.> Cheers !!!> Ash> > , "ashsam73" > wrote:> > > > Dear Donna and Group,> > > > My appologies for a quick mail due to lack of time.> > > > a) Check the sign and nakshtra that Rahu is placed in. Ra becomes > SD > > to their lords.> > > > b) Check in the SAV for the place where Rahu is situated. Say for > > example in chart Rahu is placed in 4th house of the chart. Say > > Gemini is 4th hosue and Rahu is in nakshtra of Punarvasu. So Rahu > > becomes SD to Mercury (sign lord) and Guru (Nakshtra lord).> > > > c) Now check in SAV for 4th house where Rahu is placed and check > the > > power of Me and Ju for 4th house in SAV. Say hypthetically Ju has > > power of 5 bindus and Me has power of 4, then in that case Rahu > will > > behave more like Guru.> > > > d) Also one more thing to keep in mind which is important. Rahu > and > > Ketu in House D or E become very eager to give result.> > > > So Rahu in 4th house will become eager to give results for 7th > house > > and 11th house.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > , Donna Quinn > > wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh - > > > > > > I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program > and > > adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and > i > > wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are.> > > After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic > > strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So > > pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different > planets > > is as below.> > > Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and > > Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so > > friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I > do > > not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it > has > > been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and > > good strength to produce the results in their Antara.> > > > > > Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to > have > > to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come > > up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the > chart. > > All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, > not > > 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of > > points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line.> > > > > > Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E > > > > > > 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me > > > > > > > > > Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the > > lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house > of > > D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). > > > > > > When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be > > Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, > I > > would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the > > stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has > > only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the > > Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D > > for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as > compared > > to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence > over > > everything else here, but I'm not sure. . .> > > > > > Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his > > workload. . . .> > > > > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Respected Donna Ji , Ash and learned list members, Please accept my compliments. You are really a great personality. I am fully convinced with your readings. A lot of thanks to you for your devotion in respect of my chart. Everybody irrespective of age group or knowledge is always learning something new. It is your humble kindness that you portrait yourself as still a student in spite of acquiring a deep knowledge at least in this field. I really pay you compliments from the core of my heart.. I would like to clarify few points laiid down in the lesson no # 22. I would like to draw your attention on point no 18 in respect of sight on planets on houses A B and C The sight of planets on these houses as it is mentioned , there is no doubt but what will happen if any planet occupy these houses ? These planet is considered or not. As in the case of my chart Mercury with 6 bindus occupy house C , should I deduct this 6 points from the total points in Row 9.If I do not deduct then it comes out to total 20 points as per the worksheet of KAS2005.That is why it was not tallying with your worked out worksheet. When you check up the chart there is a delay of full period of 27.5 years as it is mentioned by you in the lessons.This delay period is over now and the native is still unmarried and there seem to be no chance of settlement in the near future also. What I mean to say that delay is caused by the aspect of Saturn on Venus the karaka of marriage.Here as per this system the karaka for marriage is Sun because it is 8th lord from House B. This Sun also is aspected by Saturn.and he is debilitated in D 9. Of course according to Lesson # 2 Sun has nothing to do with its debilitation but it has acquired only 4 bindus in its BAV and 6 natal bindus. Sun is in the nak. of Venus.Is it a positive point ? Now at present the native is running with Ketu MD and Rahu Antara. Rahu is SD to Venus and Jup Venus has acquired total 53 bindus whereas Jup is with 25 bindus, so venus took precedence over Jup.What does it mean ? Antara is running of Rahu Rahu is eager to give results of house B because it is in house D. Most probably it may give the result in its third sector because of delay factor. Then what is the role of Venus and Jup. Venus is simply LoD and Loc and Jup is lord of 12th house from house B and that of 9th house. Now suppose Rahu gives result then when it will give. This may depend upon the transit of Sun,as illustrated in the lessons.So the Sun should transit in which Rashi and Nak ? If it is known then we can predict the very close period. Is it not ? Your comment and guidance will be appreciated.Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraDonna Quinn wrote: Dear Ramesh - I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program and adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and i wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are. After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to have to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the chart. All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, not 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line. Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, I would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as compared to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence over everything else here, but I'm not sure. . . Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his workload. . . . Donna India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Ramesh - Please accept my compliments. You are really a great personality. I am fully convinced with your readings. A lot of thanks to you for your devotion in respect of my chart. Everybody irrespective of age group or knowledge is always learning something new. It is your humble kindness that you portrait yourself as still a student in spite of acquiring a deep knowledge at least in this field. I really pay you compliments from the core of my heart.. Thank you for your complements, but believe me when i say that i'm just a student like you are, I DO mean this and say it not out of a sense of humbleness but because it's just true. I'm learning just like you are here. Yes, I may have a website with all the information and yes, I may have put out a worksheet with the help of other students like myself, but applying this information is a totally different concept then just seeing it in front of you. It takes time and practice and doing charts over and over again. .. all sorts of charts. This is time that would take away from my programming, so I'm really as rusty as i say i am. .. believe me. This is one of the reason why I hesitate to jump in and try to help people with their charts, when I feel just as much of a beginner sometimes as they do. My speciality comes in when I'm able to take a more complicated concept and break it down it's most basic components with preferable a visual to go with it, so that other students like myself can grasp it alot more easier than with ten paragraphs of information and explanations. I would like to clarify few points laiid down in the lesson no # 22. I would like to draw your attention on point no 18 in respect of sight on planets on houses A B and C The sight of planets on these houses as it is mentioned , there is no doubt but what will happen if any planet occupy these houses ? These planet is considered or not. As in the case of my chart Mercury with 6 bindus occupy house C , should I deduct this 6 points from the total points in Row 9.If I do not deduct then it comes out to total 20 points as per the worksheet of KAS2005.That is why it was not tallying with your worked out worksheet. From what know (and Ash please correct me if I'm wrong here), because Mercury occupies the C house, it doesn't count as "having sight on a house" because it is IN that house, so you don't deduct the 6 points. Sort of like pointing a gun and trying to hit a target. You would line up the sight of the gun on your target, but not on yourself. Anyway, that would be my understanding of it. When you check up the chart there is a delay of full period of 27.5 years as it is mentioned by you in the lessons.This delay period is over now and the native is still unmarried and there seem to be no chance of settlement in the near future also. What I mean to say that delay is caused by the aspect of Saturn on Venus the karaka of marriage.Here as per this system the karaka for marriage is Sun because it is 8th lord from House B. This Sun also is aspected by Saturn.and he is debilitated in D 9. Of course according to Lesson # 2 Sun has nothing to do with its debilitation but it has acquired only 4 bindus in its BAV and 6 natal bindus. Sun is in the nak. of Venus.Is it a positive point ? Now at present the native is running with Ketu MD and Rahu Antara. Rahu is SD to Venus and Jup Venus has acquired total 53 bindus whereas Jup is with 25 bindus, so venus took precedence over Jup.What does it mean ? OK, i will have to backtrack here for a moment. I had a long discussion with Ash on this matter and the fact that venus has 53 pts to Jupiter's 25 points has to do with the overall effects of the antra period and nothing else. Let's go back to your Ketu and Rahu for a moment. We know that both Rahu and Ketu cannot of themselves give the result because they aren't considered legitimate planets as such. So we have to get a Samdharmi to take its place. Yesterday Ash drilled this into my head over and over again. RULE #1: Rahu and Ketu will only be Samdharmi to its SIGN LORD and NAKSHATRA LORD - never to planets that they are in the same house with. So this means for example that even though your Jupiter, Sun and venus are all residing in the same house with your Ketu, none of those planets can become Samdharmi to Ketu for that particular reason alone. Since Ketu resides in the sign of Aries, it becomes SD to MARS. Then we look to see where Ketu resides in its Nakshatra and find that its Nakshatra Lord is VENUS. Ok, now we know that Ketu is SD to MARS and VENUS. STEP #2: Next click on the Ashtarkakavarga Power link on the chart page. This will take you to the SUMMARY page on the worksheet. Look at the top most chart to to find out the power of each of these planets, MARS and VENUS. We know that Ketu resides in the 10th house, so this is the house that we're interested in, in the SAV chart at the top of the Summary page. If you look at Column M, it will reflect the 10th house planets. We're interested to know how many bindus mars contributes to the 10th house for its strength here as compared to Venus's contribution for the 10th. if we look at Cell M9, we see that Mars contributes 3 bindus of its total strength to this house. if we look at venus's contribution (Cell M12), we can see that there are only 2 bindus here. Therefore, MARS wins out as the stronger of the two and Ketu becomes Samdharmi to MARS over Venus. Antara is running of Rahu Rahu is eager to give results of house B because it is in house D. Most probably it may give the result in its third sector because of delay factor. Then what is the role of Venus and Jup. Venus is simply LoD and Loc and Jup is lord of 12th house from house B and that of 9th house. Now suppose Rahu gives result then when it will give. This may depend upon the transit of Sun,as illustrated in the lessons.So the Sun should transit in which Rashi and Nak ? If it is known then we can predict the very close period. Is it not ? Your comment and guidance will be appreciated.Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraDonna Quinn wrote: Dear Ramesh - I spend most of my time these days updating the KAS2005 program and adding new goodies, so my delineation skills aren't that sharp and i wouldn't want to mislead you as I'm learning just like you are. After going through Lesson # 22 I worked out to find the basic strengths of planets considering the 7th house as B house.So pertaining to this B house the contribution to the different planets is as below. Sun -18 ,Moon -12 , Mars -10 ,Merc -14 , Jup -25 ,Venus -53 and Sat -14 points. I do not know myself whether I am correct , so friends you have to check it up my working and correct me also .I do not know whether Venus will have 53 points or not. After that it has been found that all planets except Mars has more than 12 points and good strength to produce the results in their Antara. Once you download the KAS2000 program, there is not need to have to work out the strengths of the planets as they automatically come up in the H7 sheet, which focuses only on the 7th house of the chart. All the points are correct except for Mercury which should be 20, not 14, according to the program. You can also see this readout of points, in the SUMMARY sheet for the 7th house line. Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E 7 27 18 12 10 20 25 53 14 Ju Su Ve Ve Me Since the Antara is running of Rahu so we could check up the lordship of Rahu. Is my approach correct ? Rahu is in the house of D so he will act as Venus or Jup (Rahu is in Jup Nak.). When you have an instance of two or more planets willing to be Samdharmi to Rahu, as is the case with Venus and Jupiter, normally, I would take the bindu points of each planet and see which one is the stronger of the two. In this case, Jupiter has 4 bindus, Venus has only 2. So Jupiter would be the stronger of the two and act as the Samdharmi for Rahu. And yet, I can see that Venus is the Lord of D for the 7th house focus and has a whopping 53 points here as compared to Jupiter's 25 and I would think that it would take precedence over everything else here, but I'm not sure. . . Perhaps Ash can fill in the rest once he gets a break from his workload. . . . Donna India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Respected Prof ji: My friend has been seeking suitable marriage alliances and he has received the following horoscope: Female DOB: 10/19/1982 Place: 79E04 and 21N09 Time: 19:46 Su, the prime determinant for Taurus Asc is debilitated, in infancy and badly placed. Mo and Ve are debilitated in D9. Mo is not bright and debilitated in natal - although it is in its own sign in D9. LO4 = Su is debilitated and in infancy. LO8 = Ju (significator of husband) is badly placed in 6th house. Mercury is well placed in the fifth house / own sign but is closely aspected by FM Ke. All of the above positions / indicators do not bode well with respect to strength of marriage and thus, as a suitable match – please correct any errors I have made in my analysis. Humbly submitted, Mahendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hello Mahendra, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Mahendra " <mahendra_gr Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:12 AM Analysis for marriage Respected Prof ji: My friend has been seeking suitable marriage alliances and he has received the following horoscope: Female DOB: 10/19/1982 Place: 79E04 and 21N09 Time: 19:46 Su, the prime determinant for Taurus Asc is debilitated, in infancy and badly placed. RIGHT. Mo and Ve are debilitated in D9. MOON IS NOT DEBILITATED IN D9. Mo is not bright and debilitated in natal - although it is in its own sign in D9. RIGHT. LO4 = Su is debilitated and in infancy. RIGHT. LO8 = Ju (significator of husband) is badly placed in 6th house. RIGHT. Mercury is well placed in the fifth house / own sign but is closely aspected by FM Ke. MERCURY IS NOT ASPECTED BY KETU. All of the above positions / indicators do not bode well with respect to strength of marriage and thus, as a suitable match - YOU ARE RIGHT. WHEN FOURTH LORD IS PALCED IN SIXTH HOUSE, MARITAL RELATIONSHIP FACES PERSISTENT CONFLICTS. please correct any errors I have made in my analysis. Humbly submitted, Mahendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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