Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Dear Dharmender Ji and Fraser Ji , Greetings When planets are placed in 8th house, specially 9th lord is placed in 8th house, then it makes a person pretty much 'Unconventional.' So there is no question of being orthdox for me. I saw everything in my life from name, fame, accolade, love, sex to prison and litigation. And i guess it was necessary. Periods of FB gave me many things easily which made me arrogant. But when FM came then it shattered my arrogant and took me out from my bubble of arrogance. Although people say that FM are bad. But i dont think so. Periods of FM told me the meaning of God, they told me the meaning of patience, courage and Hard Work. So i say from my experience 'Patience' is the one of the greatest virtue and i have request to Fraser Ji and Sharma Ji. " please dont allow Rahu and Mars (confusion and anger) to play in this group and have a peaceful environment. " Dear Fraser, i just got to read your email. Please have peace. Best Wishes Jagdish Dharmender Sharma <dsharma_27 wrote: Dear Jagdish Ji, Thanks for a quick response and sorry to say that your approach is also very orthodox, where teacher is in the centre as if he/she is the knowldge giver and students are nothing. As long as interest is concerned teacher also needs to do something to generate interest in students, if at all that is treated as necessary to promote the skill and knowledge. I beg to differ with your approach vis-a-vis teacher student relations. I think we all are mature people and should be treated as friends rather then in the old frame of Guru -Shishy tradition.. Dont you think that is too old a tradition has done a lot of damage to the education system. Hope you can understand my point of view and will take it in right perspective. Thanks a lot for your services regarding predictions. I will approach you personally for that on messenger. Best regards Dharmender Jagdish Singh Rawat <jagdish_729 wrote: Dear Dharmender Sharma Ji, You email is quite unnecessary. Things will look different when you will be in Professor Chaudhry's shoes. He has to deal with many people in a day and sometimes these people are rude and mean. Neither they want to listen Professo'rs teaching nor want to find out the truth by their own. Let me tell you a story... Once there was a very learned scholar. He was very famous all over the world. So many many students wanted to study under him. Many students enrolled in his class. It was the first day of his class. Professor came in the class and and said , " There will be no class today. " So all the students came next day, but professor said, " Come again next day. " That professor did so for 1 week. Finally there were only handful of students left. And then that Professor said to those handful of students, " I can see now who is really interested in learning and who is not. And my class is only for interested people. " I hope it explains. Have Patience Can i have your stats please ? I want to predict and want to check how accurate i am. Best Wishes Jagdish Dharmender Sharma <dsharma_27 wrote: Dear Professor Choudhary, I have a few observations to share about your attitude. Please forgive me for that, but I couldnt stop myself from writing such feelings. I am observing that sometimes you behave like a knowledge giver and others are treated as inferiors like beggers. I particularly hate this approach since this creates two sorts of societies - one is the owner of knowledge and other is seeker. Where as knowledge is a social earning and nobody should behave like owner of that knowledge. I am sure am not polite and seems rude, but your responses to some people also give the same kind of impression too!! I respect your enriched experience but what is lacking is politeness in your responses. The person below shared his findings and your response was not encouraging. Hope you can understand my point and forgive me for my stupid words. Best regards Dharmender Jagdish Singh Rawat <jagdish_729 wrote: Respected Sir, Today what happened i looked the horoscope of 2 people. I looked at the horoscope of the first person and predicted the possible events and their time frames. This first person said that i am absolutely right. I gained confidence and then i looked at the horoscope of another person and he also said that i am absolutely right. Then i looked at this horoscope and i was surprized as he has wonderful planets. Although in terms of degree of the planets they are not so encouraging. The conclusions which one can make are.... 1) Sun is exalted but is at very infant state and too far away from MEP. This person is very religious. Does not eat meat nor drink alcohol. Prays daily after taking shower. 2) Moon is the lord of 12th house and hence FM. It will show him expenditures in life as well as he will stay away from his home country or home town. It is almost on MEP. 3) Mars , which is yogakarka and placed in 4th hosue. It confirms pleasure for his mother and foreign stay. As lord of 9th house is in 4th hosue. Althought it is also too far away from MEP. 4) Mercury is the lord of second hosue and is in 9th hosue. I feel he will earn his earning in good way.But Mercury is also too far away from MEP. 5) Jupiter is the lord of 5th hosue and placed in 5th shows he is going to have good education and good offsprings. But this is also too far away from MEP. 6) Venus is placed and exalted in 8th hosue. It shows very easy gains. But too far away from MEP. 7) Saturn is placed in 3th hosue and exalted. it shows good siblings. 8) Rahu and Ketu are exalted but not on MEP. Sir, i came to know from his horoscope that he has good placement of planets but they are too far away from MEP. In this case when planets are well placed but too far away from MEP. What should i say ? I dont have as much experience as you have so i need your guidings. Please help me. Best Wishes Jagdish siha wrote: Hello Mr. Rawat, If you induldge in such things without learning and acquiring confidence, you will be in the state of thinking after uttering. Better have patience. Best wishes, - " Jagdish Singh Rawat " <jagdish_729 Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:59 AM powerful horoscope > Respected Sir, > > I just came to know about a very interesting horoscope. This person looks > to me as if he is going to be a millionare. And i told him so but now i > am worried if i said too much about this person.. > > Please let me know if i said too much... > > Place of Birth : Baroda > Longitude : 73 E14 > Lattitude : 22 N 19 > Time : 4 : 27 pm > Date : 13 April 1984 > > He has his most of the planet in either exalted state or in own sign. > > I need if i am right about this person. > > Best wishes > > Jagdish > > > Jagdish Singh Rawat > PO Box 40077 > Lafayette, LA 70504 > USA > Ph. : 001-337-322-6094(M) > 001-337-233-7089(H) > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Dear Mr. Rawat and the list, Hare Krishna. Kindly allow me to add further and share my understanding and experiences of FM in the natal chart in brief. Functional Malefic means all types of material set back in ones' life and/or beginning to cultivate spiritual aspect of life. In other words functional malefics teach us spiritual lesson and detachment from material concept of life style. A wise person is who practices spiritual concept of life style voluntarily regardless of having riches or poverty and cultivate Love of God. That is the purpose of Human Form of life. That is what we, the student, learn through the Astrology and guide others accordingly. OM TAT SAT. Best wishes.................Amar Puri. >Jagdish Singh Rawat <jagdish_729 > > >Re: powerful horoscope- to sharma ji and Fraser ji >Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:32:29 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Dharmender Ji and Fraser Ji , > > Greetings > > When planets are placed in 8th house, specially 9th lord is placed in >8th house, then it makes a person pretty much 'Unconventional.' So there is >no question of being orthdox for me. > > I saw everything in my life from name, fame, accolade, love, sex to >prison and litigation. And i guess it was necessary. Periods of FB gave me >many things easily which made me arrogant. But when FM came then it >shattered my arrogant and took me out from my bubble of arrogance. > > Although people say that FM are bad. But i dont think so. Periods of FM >told me the meaning of God, they told me the meaning of patience, courage >and Hard Work. > > So i say from my experience 'Patience' is the one of the greatest virtue >and i have request to Fraser Ji and Sharma Ji. " please dont allow Rahu and >Mars (confusion and anger) to play in this group and have a peaceful >environment. " > > Dear Fraser, i just got to read your email. Please have peace. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > >Dharmender Sharma <dsharma_27 wrote: > Dear Jagdish Ji, > Thanks for a quick response and sorry to say that your approach is also >very orthodox, where teacher is in the centre as if he/she is the knowldge >giver and students are nothing. As long as interest is concerned teacher >also needs to do something to generate interest in students, if at all that >is treated as necessary to promote the skill and knowledge. > > I beg to differ with your approach vis-a-vis teacher student relations. >I think we all are mature people and should be treated as friends rather >then in the old frame of Guru -Shishy tradition.. Dont you think that is >too old a tradition has done a lot of damage to the education system. > > Hope you can understand my point of view and will take it in right >perspective. > > Thanks a lot for your services regarding predictions. I will approach >you personally for that on messenger. > > Best regards > Dharmender > >Jagdish Singh Rawat <jagdish_729 wrote: > Dear Dharmender Sharma Ji, > > You email is quite unnecessary. Things will look different when you will >be in Professor Chaudhry's shoes. He has to deal with many people in a day >and sometimes these people are rude and mean. > > Neither they want to listen Professo'rs teaching nor want to find out >the truth by their own. Let me tell you a story... > > Once there was a very learned scholar. He was very famous all over the >world. So many many students wanted to study under him. Many students >enrolled in his class. It was the first day of his class. Professor came in >the class and and said , " There will be no class today. " So all the >students came next day, but professor said, " Come again next day. " > > That professor did so for 1 week. Finally there were only handful of >students left. And then that Professor said to those handful of students, > " I can see now who is really interested in learning and who is not. And my >class is only for interested people. " > > I hope it explains. Have Patience > > Can i have your stats please ? I want to predict and want to check how >accurate i am. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > >Dharmender Sharma <dsharma_27 wrote: > Dear Professor Choudhary, > I have a few observations to share about your attitude. Please forgive >me for that, but I couldnt stop myself from writing such feelings. I am >observing that sometimes you behave like a knowledge giver and others are >treated as inferiors like beggers. I particularly hate this approach since >this creates two sorts of societies - one is the owner of knowledge and >other is seeker. Where as knowledge is a social earning and nobody should >behave like owner of that knowledge. > > I am sure am not polite and seems rude, but your responses to some >people also give the same kind of impression too!! > > I respect your enriched experience but what is lacking is politeness in >your responses. The person below shared his findings and your response was >not encouraging. > > Hope you can understand my point and forgive me for my stupid words. > > Best regards > > Dharmender > >Jagdish Singh Rawat <jagdish_729 wrote: > Respected Sir, > > Today what happened i looked the horoscope of 2 people. I looked at the >horoscope of the first person and predicted the possible events and their >time frames. > > This first person said that i am absolutely right. > > I gained confidence and then i looked at the horoscope of another person >and he also said that i am absolutely right. > > Then i looked at this horoscope and i was surprized as he has wonderful >planets. Although in terms of degree of the planets they are not so >encouraging. The conclusions which one can make are.... > > 1) Sun is exalted but is at very infant state and too far away from MEP. >This person is very religious. Does not eat meat nor drink alcohol. Prays >daily after taking shower. > > 2) Moon is the lord of 12th house and hence FM. It will show him >expenditures in life as well as he will stay away from his home country or >home town. It is almost on MEP. > > 3) Mars , which is yogakarka and placed in 4th hosue. It confirms >pleasure for his mother and foreign stay. As lord of 9th house is in 4th >hosue. Althought it is also too far away from MEP. > > 4) Mercury is the lord of second hosue and is in 9th hosue. I feel he >will earn his earning in good way.But Mercury is also too far away from >MEP. > > 5) Jupiter is the lord of 5th hosue and placed in 5th shows he is going >to have good education and good offsprings. But this is also too far away >from MEP. > > 6) Venus is placed and exalted in 8th hosue. It shows very easy gains. >But too far away from MEP. > > 7) Saturn is placed in 3th hosue and exalted. it shows good siblings. > > 8) Rahu and Ketu are exalted but not on MEP. > > Sir, i came to know from his horoscope that he has good placement of >planets but they are too far away from MEP. > > In this case when planets are well placed but too far away from MEP. >What should i say ? I dont have as much experience as you have so i need >your guidings. > > Please help me. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > >siha wrote: > >Hello Mr. Rawat, > >If you induldge in such things without learning and acquiring confidence, >you will be in the state of thinking after uttering. Better have patience. > >Best wishes, > > > > >- > " Jagdish Singh Rawat " <jagdish_729 > >Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:59 AM > powerful horoscope > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > I just came to know about a very interesting horoscope. This person >looks > > to me as if he is going to be a millionare. And i told him so but now i > > am worried if i said too much about this person.. > > > > Please let me know if i said too much... > > > > Place of Birth : Baroda > > Longitude : 73 E14 > > Lattitude : 22 N 19 > > Time : 4 : 27 pm > > Date : 13 April 1984 > > > > He has his most of the planet in either exalted state or in own sign. > > > > I need if i am right about this person. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > Jagdish Singh Rawat > > PO Box 40077 > > Lafayette, LA 70504 > > USA > > Ph. : 001-337-322-6094(M) > > 001-337-233-7089(H) > > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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