Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Dear , I understand that the influence of 6th lord on 2nd house MEP would give conflicts in Family. My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house on the MEP and aspecting the second house, what should be the effect? 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because the afflicting planet is aspecting from 6th house. OR 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we assume that the additional maleficence due to afflicting planet being in 6th house will NOT be there. This case would be applicable to Cancer ascendant only and the 6th lord would be Jupiter. regards rajeevbharol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hello dear Rajeev, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol ; <satva > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:17 AM [satva] Question about 6th lord afflicting 2nd house. > Dear , > > I understand that the influence of 6th lord on 2nd house MEP would > give conflicts in Family. > > My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house on the MEP and aspecting > the second house, what should be the effect? > > 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because the afflicting planet is > aspecting from 6th house. YES, BUT DAMAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF SIXTH LORD PROTECTING SIXTH HOUSE AND IF THE SUN IS OTHERWISE STRONG/WELL PLACED. OR > > 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we assume that the additional > maleficence due to afflicting planet being in 6th house will NOT be > there. > > This case would be applicable to Cancer ascendant only and the > 6th lord would be Jupiter. RIGHT. > > regards > rajeevbharol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hi, I have a query related to cases of 2nd lord under affliction of 6th lord. I see that in all people born in 1980 first half and in Vrischika Lagna, The 2nd lord Jupiter is under afflication of 6th lord Mars. Can we conclude all these people will have troubled family life, conflict with spouse (more in the case of women, because Jupiter is also the Kaaraka for Husband). In the case of Vrischika Lagna, Venus also being Malefic, the only planets left which can tilt the balance are the Sun and Moon. Like if the Moon is in Tauras (exalted) and in MEP, we could consider that as a saving grace. I do understand Sun is the Second Karaka and in case Sun is strong, well placed and un afflicted in the case Vrischika Lagna, that will be a saving grace in both career and family life. Any comments? Regards, Venu --- siha wrote: > > Hello dear Rajeev, > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your > message appended below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol > ; > <satva > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:17 AM > [satva] Question about 6th lord afflicting > 2nd house. > > > > Dear , > > > > I understand that the influence of 6th lord on 2nd > house MEP would > > give conflicts in Family. > > > > My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house on > the MEP and aspecting > > the second house, what should be the effect? > > > > 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because the > afflicting planet is > > aspecting from 6th house. > > YES, BUT DAMAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF > SIXTH LORD PROTECTING SIXTH > HOUSE AND IF THE SUN IS OTHERWISE STRONG/WELL > PLACED. > > OR > > > > 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we > assume that the additional > > maleficence due to afflicting planet being in > 6th house will NOT be > > there. > > > > > > This case would be applicable to Cancer ascendant > only and the > > 6th lord would be Jupiter. > > RIGHT. > > > > regards > > rajeevbharol > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > Post message: satva > > Subscribe: satva- > > Un: satva- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Each chart is unique so we can't generalize. MEP too is an Important concept in SA. During the time you mentioned, Mars is afflicting 2nd lord for Scorpio ascendant. and was placed in 10th house with second lord jupiter. Nodes were in 4th and 10th so if they were on MEP, that would have caused further damage by Rahu's 5th aspect on 2nd and Ketu's influence on 4th, 8th and 12th, thus spoiling marriage and married life further. If Mars was on MEP that would have brought problems in family as it would afflict second lord as well as the MEP of fourth house. If Mars and nodes were not on the MEP, the problems would not be as bad. During the time you mentioned, Saturn, the 4th lord was weak. Strength of Venus and afflictions to it too would have an effect. Like you said, strength of Moon would have been helpful for scopions during that time. On 1/3/06, Venugopal V <venuvenky wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a query related to cases of 2nd lord under > affliction of 6th lord. I see that in all people born > in 1980 first half and in Vrischika Lagna, The 2nd > lord Jupiter is under afflication of 6th lord Mars. > Can we conclude all these people will have troubled > family life, conflict with spouse (more in the case of > women, because Jupiter is also the Kaaraka for > Husband). > > In the case of Vrischika Lagna, Venus also being > Malefic, the only planets left which can tilt the > balance are the Sun and Moon. Like if the Moon is in > Tauras (exalted) and in MEP, we could consider that as > a saving grace. I do understand Sun is the Second > Karaka and in case Sun is strong, well placed and un > afflicted in the case Vrischika Lagna, that will be a > saving grace in both career and family life. > > Any comments? > > Regards, > Venu > > > --- siha wrote: > > > > > Hello dear Rajeev, > > > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your > > message appended below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > - > > " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol > > ; > > <satva > > > Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:17 AM > > [satva] Question about 6th lord afflicting > > 2nd house. > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > > > I understand that the influence of 6th lord on 2nd > > house MEP would > > > give conflicts in Family. > > > > > > My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house on > > the MEP and aspecting > > > the second house, what should be the effect? > > > > > > 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because the > > afflicting planet is > > > aspecting from 6th house. > > > > YES, BUT DAMAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF > > SIXTH LORD PROTECTING SIXTH > > HOUSE AND IF THE SUN IS OTHERWISE STRONG/WELL > > PLACED. > > > > OR > > > > > > 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we > > assume that the additional > > > maleficence due to afflicting planet being in > > 6th house will NOT be > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > This case would be applicable to Cancer ascendant > > only and the > > > 6th lord would be Jupiter. > > > > RIGHT. > > > > > > regards > > > rajeevbharol > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: satva > > > Subscribe: satva- > > > Un: satva- > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hello Venu, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Venugopal V " <venuvenky Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:32 AM Re: Re: [satva] Question about 6th lord afflicting 2nd house. > Hi, > > I have a query related to cases of 2nd lord under > affliction of 6th lord. I see that in all people born > in 1980 first half and in Vrischika Lagna, The 2nd > lord Jupiter is under afflication of 6th lord Mars. > Can we conclude all these people will have troubled > family life, conflict with spouse (more in the case of > women, because Jupiter is also the Kaaraka for > Husband). > RIGHT. > In the case of Vrischika Lagna, Venus also being > Malefic, the only planets left which can tilt the > balance are the Sun and Moon. Like if the Moon is in > Tauras (exalted) and in MEP, we could consider that as > a saving grace. I do understand Sun is the Second > Karaka and in case Sun is strong, well placed and un > afflicted in the case Vrischika Lagna, that will be a > saving grace in both career and family life. YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT. > > Any comments? > > Regards, > Venu > > > --- siha wrote: > >> >> Hello dear Rajeev, >> >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in your >> message appended below. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> - >> " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol >> ; >> <satva > >> Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:17 AM >> [satva] Question about 6th lord afflicting >> 2nd house. >> >> >> > Dear , >> > >> > I understand that the influence of 6th lord on 2nd >> house MEP would >> > give conflicts in Family. >> > >> > My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house on >> the MEP and aspecting >> > the second house, what should be the effect? >> > >> > 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because the >> afflicting planet is >> > aspecting from 6th house. >> >> YES, BUT DAMAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF >> SIXTH LORD PROTECTING SIXTH >> HOUSE AND IF THE SUN IS OTHERWISE STRONG/WELL >> PLACED. >> >> OR >> > >> > 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we >> assume that the additional >> > maleficence due to afflicting planet being in >> 6th house will NOT be >> > there. >> > >> >> >> > This case would be applicable to Cancer ascendant >> only and the >> > 6th lord would be Jupiter. >> >> RIGHT. >> > >> > regards >> > rajeevbharol >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Post message: satva >> > Subscribe: satva- >> > Un: satva- >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hello Prof, Thanks for the response. I have one more query. In one of your replies, you have mentioned about Rahu's direct affliction to SUN and that makes a person vulnerable to manipulation. I would like to know if such people are vulnerable to manipulation or they are manipulative themselves, meaning their basic character is questionable. Rahu represnets darkness and Sun brightness, so the direct affliction to Sun causes ECLIPSE. When Rahu is directly afflicting to Sun, then Ketu will also be afflicting meaning Stomach problems and poor health on the whole. Also what is the ORB of affliction of Rahu/Ketu in the software generating horoscope in your website. What is your opinion on this? I saw the Asdt to be 4 deg, rahu in 10 th house to be in 5 deg 42 min, but it did not say Rahu afflicting 2,4,6 and 10 houses howcome? Regards, Venu --- siha wrote: > > Hello Venu, > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your > message appended below. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " Venugopal V " <venuvenky > > Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:32 AM > Re: Re: [satva] Question about > 6th lord afflicting 2nd > house. > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a query related to cases of 2nd lord under > > affliction of 6th lord. I see that in all people > born > > in 1980 first half and in Vrischika Lagna, The 2nd > > lord Jupiter is under afflication of 6th lord > Mars. > > Can we conclude all these people will have > troubled > > family life, conflict with spouse (more in the > case of > > women, because Jupiter is also the Kaaraka for > > Husband). > > > RIGHT. > > > In the case of Vrischika Lagna, Venus also being > > Malefic, the only planets left which can tilt the > > balance are the Sun and Moon. Like if the Moon is > in > > Tauras (exalted) and in MEP, we could consider > that as > > a saving grace. I do understand Sun is the Second > > Karaka and in case Sun is strong, well placed and > un > > afflicted in the case Vrischika Lagna, that will > be a > > saving grace in both career and family life. > > YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Regards, > > Venu > > > > > > --- siha wrote: > > > >> > >> Hello dear Rajeev, > >> > >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in > your > >> message appended below. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol > >> ; > >> <satva > > >> Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:17 AM > >> [satva] Question about 6th lord > afflicting > >> 2nd house. > >> > >> > >> > Dear , > >> > > >> > I understand that the influence of 6th lord on > 2nd > >> house MEP would > >> > give conflicts in Family. > >> > > >> > My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house > on > >> the MEP and aspecting > >> > the second house, what should be the effect? > >> > > >> > 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because > the > >> afflicting planet is > >> > aspecting from 6th house. > >> > >> YES, BUT DAMAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF > >> SIXTH LORD PROTECTING SIXTH > >> HOUSE AND IF THE SUN IS OTHERWISE STRONG/WELL > >> PLACED. > >> > >> OR > >> > > >> > 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we > >> assume that the additional > >> > maleficence due to afflicting planet being > in > >> 6th house will NOT be > >> > there. > >> > > >> > >> > >> > This case would be applicable to Cancer > ascendant > >> only and the > >> > 6th lord would be Jupiter. > >> > >> RIGHT. > >> > > >> > regards > >> > rajeevbharol > >> > > >> > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been > >> removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Post message: satva > >> > Subscribe: satva- > >> > Un: satva- > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hello Venu, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Venugopal V " <venuvenky Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:00 AM Re: Re: [satva] Question about 6th lord afflicting 2nd house. > Hello Prof, > > Thanks for the response. > I have one more query. In one of your replies, you > have mentioned about Rahu's direct affliction to SUN > and that > makes a person vulnerable to manipulation. > I would like to know if such people are vulnerable to > manipulation or they are manipulative themselves, > meaning their basic character is questionable. > IMPACT CAN BE BOTH WAYS. > Rahu represnets darkness and Sun brightness, so the > direct > affliction to Sun causes ECLIPSE. When Rahu is > directly afflicting to Sun, then Ketu will also be > afflicting meaning Stomach problems and poor health on > the whole. > Also what is the ORB of affliction of Rahu/Ketu in the > > software generating horoscope in your website. > > What is your opinion on this? > > I saw the Asdt to be 4 deg, rahu in 10 th house to be > in > 5 deg 42 min, but it did not say Rahu afflicting 2,4,6 > > and 10 houses howcome? SOFTWARE IS DESIGNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE AND IT IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY CHANGED/CALIBRATED TO SUIT THE REQUIREMENTS OF ANALYTICAL TECHNIQUES. IT IS ONLY HELP. THOSE WHO WANT TO LEARN AND ARE LEARNING HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. > > Regards, > Venu > > > > > > --- siha wrote: > >> >> Hello Venu, >> >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in your >> message appended below. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " Venugopal V " <venuvenky >> >> Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:32 AM >> Re: Re: [satva] Question about >> 6th lord afflicting 2nd >> house. >> >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have a query related to cases of 2nd lord under >> > affliction of 6th lord. I see that in all people >> born >> > in 1980 first half and in Vrischika Lagna, The 2nd >> > lord Jupiter is under afflication of 6th lord >> Mars. >> > Can we conclude all these people will have >> troubled >> > family life, conflict with spouse (more in the >> case of >> > women, because Jupiter is also the Kaaraka for >> > Husband). >> > >> RIGHT. >> >> > In the case of Vrischika Lagna, Venus also being >> > Malefic, the only planets left which can tilt the >> > balance are the Sun and Moon. Like if the Moon is >> in >> > Tauras (exalted) and in MEP, we could consider >> that as >> > a saving grace. I do understand Sun is the Second >> > Karaka and in case Sun is strong, well placed and >> un >> > afflicted in the case Vrischika Lagna, that will >> be a >> > saving grace in both career and family life. >> >> YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT. >> > >> > Any comments? >> > >> > Regards, >> > Venu >> > >> > >> > --- siha wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hello dear Rajeev, >> >> >> >> I add my replies/comments to your questions in >> your >> >> message appended below. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol >> >> ; >> >> <satva > >> >> Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:17 AM >> >> [satva] Question about 6th lord >> afflicting >> >> 2nd house. >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear , >> >> > >> >> > I understand that the influence of 6th lord on >> 2nd >> >> house MEP would >> >> > give conflicts in Family. >> >> > >> >> > My question is, if the 6th lord is in 6th house >> on >> >> the MEP and aspecting >> >> > the second house, what should be the effect? >> >> > >> >> > 1. Will the conflicts be more severe because >> the >> >> afflicting planet is >> >> > aspecting from 6th house. >> >> >> >> YES, BUT DAMAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LESS BECAUSE OF >> >> SIXTH LORD PROTECTING SIXTH >> >> HOUSE AND IF THE SUN IS OTHERWISE STRONG/WELL >> >> PLACED. >> >> >> >> OR >> >> > >> >> > 2. Since the 6th lord is well placed, should we >> >> assume that the additional >> >> > maleficence due to afflicting planet being >> in >> >> 6th house will NOT be >> >> > there. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > This case would be applicable to Cancer >> ascendant >> >> only and the >> >> > 6th lord would be Jupiter. >> >> >> >> RIGHT. >> >> > >> >> > regards >> >> > rajeevbharol >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> >> removed] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Post message: satva >> >> > Subscribe: satva- >> >> > Un: satva- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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