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Hello LIST,

Your valued inputs, if you please.

I have been studying this Taurus chart.

Could anyone tell me the mental and

emotional traits of this chart.

WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good

analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

good " setting " )

I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

please.

----------------

DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

----------------

Many Thanks !

Regards,

Fraser.

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Hello Fraser,

 

Please see my reply below, you can use the following to come up with

the answer.

Regards

Amit

 

, " fraser " <fraser@p...> wrote:

>

> Hello LIST,

> Your valued inputs, if you please.

> I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> Could anyone tell me the mental and

> emotional traits of this chart.

USE THE STRENGTH AND PLACEMENT OF 5TH LORD MERCURY AND ITS SIGN OF

PLACEMENT(MAKE SURE ITS NOT DEBILATED IN D5)

THE MOON AND ITS DISPOSITOR VENUS AND ITS SIGN OF PLACEMENT LIBRA.

THE ASPECT OF MARS TO MOON HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.(HINT: RELATIONSHIP

ISSUES DUE TO EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY AND THUS DISPUTIVE INITIATIVES)

THE STRENGHT AND ASPECT OF THE SUN THE 4th LORD

THE NON AFFLICTING INFLUENCE OF MMP JUPITER

THE ASPECT AND COMBINATION OF JUPITER,SATURN,KETU IN THE 5TH HOUSE

(HINT: SPIRITUAL AND OCCULT OR IDEALISTIC RELIGIOUS INCLINATION)

 

> WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

good

> analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> good " setting " )

> I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

> please.

> ----------------

> DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> ----------------

> Many Thanks !

> Regards,

> Fraser.

>

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Hello Amit,

 

Thanks for your input - really appreciate it.

what is EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY ?

could you expand on that, please ?

-the rest of your text was straight-forward.

Thanks !

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

 

, " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

>

> Hello Fraser,

>

> Please see my reply below, you can use the following to come up with

> the answer.

> Regards

> Amit

>

> , " fraser " fraser@p... wrote:

> >

> > Hello LIST,

> > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > emotional traits of this chart.

> USE THE STRENGTH AND PLACEMENT OF 5TH LORD MERCURY AND ITS SIGN OF

> PLACEMENT(MAKE SURE ITS NOT DEBILATED IN D5)

> THE MOON AND ITS DISPOSITOR VENUS AND ITS SIGN OF PLACEMENT LIBRA.

> THE ASPECT OF MARS TO MOON HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.(HINT: RELATIONSHIP

> ISSUES DUE TO EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY AND THUS DISPUTIVE INITIATIVES)

> THE STRENGHT AND ASPECT OF THE SUN THE 4th LORD

> THE NON AFFLICTING INFLUENCE OF MMP JUPITER

> THE ASPECT AND COMBINATION OF JUPITER,SATURN,KETU IN THE 5TH HOUSE

> (HINT: SPIRITUAL AND OCCULT OR IDEALISTIC RELIGIOUS INCLINATION)

>

> > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

> good

> > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > good " setting " )

> > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

> > please.

> > ----------------

> > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > ----------------

> > Many Thanks !

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Fraser

 

First of all, a personal querry, if you don't mind. Are you somewhere in

India or abroad?

 

my comments are in CAPS below for your information.

 

 

On 11/23/05, fraser <fraser wrote:

>

> Hello LIST,

> Your valued inputs, if you please.

> I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> Could anyone tell me the mental and

> emotional traits of this chart.

> WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

 

 

AS PER MY UNDERSTANDING OF ASTROLOGY MENTAL TRAITS AND EMOTIONAL TRAITS ARE

TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. EMOTIONAL MATTERS INCLUDING MENTAL PEACE IS TO BE

ANALYSED THROUGH FOURTH HOUSE AND MOON WHILE INTELLIGENCE IS TO BE

UNDERSTOOD THROUGH FIFTH HOUSE AND JUPITER. MERCURY PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN

BOTH THESE TRAITS, BEING SIGNIFICATOR OF ANALYTICAL ANALYSIS.

 

FURTHER, THE NATAL CHART IS TO BE ANALYSED IN FULL AND NONE OF THE RELEVANT

ASPECTS CAN BE IGNORED.

 

WEAK AND FEMALE PLANETS, HAVING RELATION WITH 5TH HOUSE, MIXES THE

INTELLIGENCE OF THE NATIVE WITH EMOTIONS DEPENDING UPON THEIR FUNCTIONAL AND

GENERAL NATURE. HENCE, A BENEFIC MOON OR VENUS RELATED WITH FIFTH HOUSE MAY

INSTIGATE THE NATIVE TO READ AND PERSUE THE

 

 

I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good

> analytical judgements.

 

 

MY OBSERVATIONS ARE AS UNDER:

 

INTELLIGENCE: FIFTH HOUSE IS AFFLICTED BY MALEFIC JUPITER'S PLACEMENT AND

THERE ARE NO BENEFIC INFLUENCES OVER IT. THE FIFTH LORD IS ALSO PLACED IN

LAGNA WHICH IS AFFLICTED BY JUPITER [MALEFIC PLANET RULING 8TH HOUSE].

FURTHER THE YOGAKARAKA SATURN IS PLACED IN 5TH HOUSE UNDER SEVERE AFFLICTION

OF JUPITER AND BOTH THESE PLANETS I.E. JUPITER AND SATURN ARE AFFLICTED BY

KETU'S ASPECT FROM 9TH HOUSE. APPARENTLY, THE FIFTH HOUSE SIGNIFICATIONS

AND SIGNIFICATIONS OF MERCURY [ AS FIFTH LORD AND GENERAL SIGNIFICATIONS]

ARE UNDER SEVERE OBSTRUCTIVE IMPACT OF JUPITER.

HENCE, IT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE NATIVE'S INTELLIGENCE IS NOT LIKELY TO

BE HELPFUL FOR HIM AND HE MAY TAKE WRONG DECISIONS. THE CONJUNCTION OF

JUPITER AND SATURN, HAVING ASPECT OF KETU FROM 9TH HOUSE MAY CAUSE NATIVE TO

HAVE DEEP SPIRITUAL INCLINATIONS BUT WITH NO HELP IN SOCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL

MATTERS.

NATURE: FOURTH LORD SUN IS PLACED IN AN AFFLICTED HOUSE AND ITSELF

AFFLICTED BY JUPITER'S ASPECT. THE SIGNIFICATOR MOON, IS PLACED IN 6TH

HOUSE UNDER AFFLICTION OF MARS. HENCE, THE MENTAL PEACE OF THE NATIVE IS

MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN DISTURB AND NATIVE IS NOT LIKELY TO HAVE A HEALTHY

NATURE. HE MAY ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS LIKE FITS, ANGER, BEING HYPER-SENSITIVE

DEPENDING UPON THE NATURE OF DASA. OVERALL, THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE

NATIVE SEEMS TO BE FACING/FACED A LOT OF OBSTRUCTIONS.

 

 

I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> good " setting " )

 

 

PLEASE DO CONVEY YOUR COMMENTS.

 

I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

> please.

> ----------------

> DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> ----------------

> Many Thanks !

> Regards,

> Fraser.

 

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Hello Sharma,

I do not reside in India.

Your reading of the chart is impressive.

I wonder, if this native is trustworthy.

It's pretty much a mixed bag.

what do you think ?

and thanks much much for your post...

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

, rajshekhar sharma

<rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

>

> Hello Fraser

>

> First of all, a personal querry, if you don't mind. Are you

somewhere in

> India or abroad?

>

> my comments are in CAPS below for your information.

>

>

> On 11/23/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello LIST,

> > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > emotional traits of this chart.

> > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

>

>

> AS PER MY UNDERSTANDING OF ASTROLOGY MENTAL TRAITS AND EMOTIONAL

TRAITS ARE

> TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. EMOTIONAL MATTERS INCLUDING MENTAL PEACE IS

TO BE

> ANALYSED THROUGH FOURTH HOUSE AND MOON WHILE INTELLIGENCE IS TO BE

> UNDERSTOOD THROUGH FIFTH HOUSE AND JUPITER. MERCURY PLAYS A VITAL

ROLE IN

> BOTH THESE TRAITS, BEING SIGNIFICATOR OF ANALYTICAL ANALYSIS.

>

> FURTHER, THE NATAL CHART IS TO BE ANALYSED IN FULL AND NONE OF THE

RELEVANT

> ASPECTS CAN BE IGNORED.

>

> WEAK AND FEMALE PLANETS, HAVING RELATION WITH 5TH HOUSE, MIXES THE

> INTELLIGENCE OF THE NATIVE WITH EMOTIONS DEPENDING UPON THEIR

FUNCTIONAL AND

> GENERAL NATURE. HENCE, A BENEFIC MOON OR VENUS RELATED WITH FIFTH

HOUSE MAY

> INSTIGATE THE NATIVE TO READ AND PERSUE THE

>

>

> I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

good

> > analytical judgements.

>

>

> MY OBSERVATIONS ARE AS UNDER:

>

> INTELLIGENCE: FIFTH HOUSE IS AFFLICTED BY MALEFIC JUPITER'S

PLACEMENT AND

> THERE ARE NO BENEFIC INFLUENCES OVER IT. THE FIFTH LORD IS ALSO

PLACED IN

> LAGNA WHICH IS AFFLICTED BY JUPITER [MALEFIC PLANET RULING 8TH

HOUSE].

> FURTHER THE YOGAKARAKA SATURN IS PLACED IN 5TH HOUSE UNDER SEVERE

AFFLICTION

> OF JUPITER AND BOTH THESE PLANETS I.E. JUPITER AND SATURN ARE

AFFLICTED BY

> KETU'S ASPECT FROM 9TH HOUSE. APPARENTLY, THE FIFTH HOUSE

SIGNIFICATIONS

> AND SIGNIFICATIONS OF MERCURY [ AS FIFTH LORD AND GENERAL

SIGNIFICATIONS]

> ARE UNDER SEVERE OBSTRUCTIVE IMPACT OF JUPITER.

> HENCE, IT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE NATIVE'S INTELLIGENCE IS NOT

LIKELY TO

> BE HELPFUL FOR HIM AND HE MAY TAKE WRONG DECISIONS. THE

CONJUNCTION OF

> JUPITER AND SATURN, HAVING ASPECT OF KETU FROM 9TH HOUSE MAY CAUSE

NATIVE TO

> HAVE DEEP SPIRITUAL INCLINATIONS BUT WITH NO HELP IN SOCIAL AND

PROFESSIONAL

> MATTERS.

> NATURE: FOURTH LORD SUN IS PLACED IN AN AFFLICTED HOUSE AND ITSELF

> AFFLICTED BY JUPITER'S ASPECT. THE SIGNIFICATOR MOON, IS PLACED IN

6TH

> HOUSE UNDER AFFLICTION OF MARS. HENCE, THE MENTAL PEACE OF THE

NATIVE IS

> MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN DISTURB AND NATIVE IS NOT LIKELY TO HAVE A

HEALTHY

> NATURE. HE MAY ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS LIKE FITS, ANGER, BEING HYPER-

SENSITIVE

> DEPENDING UPON THE NATURE OF DASA. OVERALL, THE GENERAL

DEVELOPMENT OF THE

> NATIVE SEEMS TO BE FACING/FACED A LOT OF OBSTRUCTIONS.

>

>

> I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > good " setting " )

>

>

> PLEASE DO CONVEY YOUR COMMENTS.

>

> I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

> > please.

> > ----------------

> > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > ----------------

> > Many Thanks !

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Mr. Fraser,

 

I have not understood your question.

I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

I have the following to say:

Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

 

The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

 

From the birth data you have given:

Mars afflicts Moon.

Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also affected.

Ketu afflicts Saturn.

I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong.

Regards

M.R.Murali

----- wrote: -----

 

 

 

" fraser " <fraser

Sent by:

11/23/2005 08:50AM

emotions

 

Hello LIST,

Your valued inputs, if you please.

I have been studying this Taurus chart.

Could anyone tell me the mental and

emotional traits of this chart.

WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good

analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

good " setting " )

I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

please.

----------------

DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

----------------

Many Thanks !

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello murali,

Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

" BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE

ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS

DOWN. "

Now,

Lord of 10th house afflicted.

The Sun weak.

Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%.

Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

So, thats a 50/50 set up.

AND WE HAVE

Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%)

THE QUESTION HERE IS:

Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

emotions and character has more to do with mind.

Can intellect supercede the mind ?

Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

See, I did not bring the moon into this.

 

Look forward to your inputs.

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

 

, mrm@t... wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Fraser,

>

> I have not understood your question.

> I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> I have the following to say:

> Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

>

> The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

> The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

>

> From the birth data you have given:

> Mars afflicts Moon.

> Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also

affected.

> Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong.

> Regards

> M.R.Murali

> ----- wrote: -----

>

>

>

> " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> Sent by:

> 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> emotions

>

> Hello LIST,

> Your valued inputs, if you please.

> I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> Could anyone tell me the mental and

> emotional traits of this chart.

> WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

good

> analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> good " setting " )

> I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

> please.

> ----------------

> DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> ----------------

> Many Thanks !

> Regards,

> Fraser.

 

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Dear Fraser,

 

I am looking at the chart in the following way:

Venus is not combust and hence the orb. of affliction is one degree.

Jupiter is also strong and the orb. of affliction is also one degree.

Only the 10th., 3rd., and 4th. houses are afflicted including their lords.

Hence i think the native is trustworthy.

Regards

M.R.Murali

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Hello fraser

 

Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your questions.

 

THE QUESTION HERE IS:

Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally speaking,

trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire and

intelligence.

The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions. The lord of

initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and afflicted.

Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative mentality.

The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under close

affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such circumstances

the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even the

general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of this.

Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief.

 

emotions and character has more to do with mind.

Can intellect supercede the mind ?

YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE MIND MAY

SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS INTELLIGENCE

APPROPRIATELY.

 

Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

See, I did not bring the moon into this.

 

THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS SUCH BOTH

THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THEIR

SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN AFFLICTED

LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE COMBUST

VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION.

 

 

BEST WISHES

 

RAJ SHEKHAR

On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser wrote:

>

> Hello murali,

> Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE

> ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS

> DOWN. "

> Now,

> Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> The Sun weak.

> Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%.

> Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> AND WE HAVE

> Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%)

> THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> See, I did not bring the moon into this.

>

> Look forward to your inputs.

> Regards,

> Fraser.

>

>

>

> , mrm@t... wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> >

> > I have not understood your question.

> > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > I have the following to say:

> > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> >

> > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

> > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> >

> > From the birth data you have given:

> > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also

> affected.

> > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong.

> > Regards

> > M.R.Murali

> > ----- wrote: -----

> >

> >

> >

> > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > Sent by:

> > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > emotions

> >

> > Hello LIST,

> > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > emotional traits of this chart.

> > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

> good

> > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > good " setting " )

> > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you

> > please.

> > ----------------

> > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > ----------------

> > Many Thanks !

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hello Murali,

Please offer your comment on these positions.

•Sun weak.

•Lord of 10th house weak.

•MMP Jupiter in the 5th House.

ALSO,

with such a powerful Mercury, and such low morality.

How upright and righteous can he be ?

Regards,

Fraser

 

 

 

, mrm@t... wrote:

>

>

> Dear Fraser,

>

> I am looking at the chart in the following way:

> Venus is not combust and hence the orb. of affliction is one degree.

> Jupiter is also strong and the orb. of affliction is also one

degree.

> Only the 10th., 3rd., and 4th. houses are afflicted including their

lords.

> Hence i think the native is trustworthy.

> Regards

> M.R.Murali

>

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Hello Sharma,

You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing).

You may want to look at these credentials of the chart.

•Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

•Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

•Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

•Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

 

, rajshekhar sharma

<rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

>

> Hello fraser

>

> Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your

questions.

>

> THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally

speaking,

> trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire

and

> intelligence.

> The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions.

The lord of

> initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and

afflicted.

> Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative

mentality.

> The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under

close

> affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

circumstances

> the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even

the

> general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because

of this.

> Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some

relief.

>

> emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE

MIND MAY

> SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS

INTELLIGENCE

> APPROPRIATELY.

>

> Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> See, I did not bring the moon into this.

>

> THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS

SUCH BOTH

> THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF

THEIR

> SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN

AFFLICTED

> LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE

COMBUST

> VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION.

>

>

> BEST WISHES

>

> RAJ SHEKHAR

> On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello murali,

> > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE

> > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS

> > DOWN. "

> > Now,

> > Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> > The Sun weak.

> > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%.

> > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> > So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> > AND WE HAVE

> > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%)

> > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> >

> > Look forward to your inputs.

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> >

> >

> > , mrm@t... wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> > >

> > > I have not understood your question.

> > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > > I have the following to say:

> > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> > >

> > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

> > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> > >

> > > From the birth data you have given:

> > > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also

> > affected.

> > > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong.

> > > Regards

> > > M.R.Murali

> > > ----- wrote: -----

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > > Sent by:

> > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > > emotions

> > >

> > > Hello LIST,

> > > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > > emotional traits of this chart.

> > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

> > good

> > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > > good " setting " )

> > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if

you

> > > please.

> > > ----------------

> > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > > ----------------

> > > Many Thanks !

> > > Regards,

> > > Fraser.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Fraser,

 

Sun is weak. The 4th. house significations are : mother, vehicles,

education, properties and general happiness.

Moon is weak and hence affects mother.Mercury is somewhat strong and hence

does not affect education both basic and higher.Mars is in own house though

in the 12th. house and hence strong.Properties are not affected.Affects

father because saturn and sun are weak.Venus placed in slightly weak lagna

and hence vehicles could be affected.

 

The 10th. house significations are:father, character, profession,male

progeny etc.Saturn is the primary significator.The secondary are, Sun,

Venus, mercury and jupiter.Saturn and Sun are weak.

I still think Jupiter is strong and hence morally strong.

Regards

M.R.Murali

 

----- wrote: -----

 

 

 

" fraser " <fraser

Sent by:

11/24/2005 09:38PM

Re: emotions

 

Hello Murali,

Please offer your comment on these positions.

•Sun weak.

•Lord of 10th house weak.

•MMP Jupiter in the 5th House.

ALSO,

with such a powerful Mercury, and such low morality.

How upright and righteous can he be ?

Regards,

Fraser

 

 

 

, mrm@t... wrote:

>

>

> Dear Fraser,

>

> I am looking at the chart in the following way:

> Venus is not combust and hence the orb. of affliction is one degree.

> Jupiter is also strong and the orb. of affliction is also one

degree.

> Only the 10th., 3rd., and 4th. houses are afflicted including their

lords.

> Hence i think the native is trustworthy.

> Regards

> M.R.Murali

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Fraser

 

Point-wise comments are as under:

 

..Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

 

Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it is afflicted

by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered strong. Even if it had

been strong, it has nothing to do with morality of the native.

 

..Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

 

The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord. There are not

benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are afflicted planets i.e. Sun

and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an affliction of 20% will count.

 

 

..Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

 

As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is not strong

enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under

close

affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed.

Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of

this. Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief. "

 

..Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

 

Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted.

 

 

Raj Shekhar

 

Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

Regards,

Fraser.

 

-

fraser

Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM

Re: emotions

 

 

Hello Sharma,

You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing).

You may want to look at these credentials of the chart.

.Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

.Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

.Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

.Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

 

, rajshekhar sharma

<rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

>

> Hello fraser

>

> Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your

questions.

>

> THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally

speaking,

> trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire

and

> intelligence.

> The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions.

The lord of

> initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and

afflicted.

> Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative

mentality.

> The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under

close

> affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

circumstances

> the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even

the

> general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because

of this.

> Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some

relief.

>

> emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE

MIND MAY

> SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS

INTELLIGENCE

> APPROPRIATELY.

>

> Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> See, I did not bring the moon into this.

>

> THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS

SUCH BOTH

> THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF

THEIR

> SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN

AFFLICTED

> LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE

COMBUST

> VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION.

>

>

> BEST WISHES

>

> RAJ SHEKHAR

> On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello murali,

> > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE

> > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS

> > DOWN. "

> > Now,

> > Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> > The Sun weak.

> > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%.

> > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> > So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> > AND WE HAVE

> > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%)

> > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> >

> > Look forward to your inputs.

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> >

> >

> > , mrm@t... wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> > >

> > > I have not understood your question.

> > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > > I have the following to say:

> > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> > >

> > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

> > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> > >

> > > From the birth data you have given:

> > > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also

> > affected.

> > > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong.

> > > Regards

> > > M.R.Murali

> > > ----- wrote: -----

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > > Sent by:

> > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > > emotions

> > >

> > > Hello LIST,

> > > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > > emotional traits of this chart.

> > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind.

> > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of

> > good

> > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and

> > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > > good " setting " )

> > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if

you

> > > please.

> > > ----------------

> > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > > ----------------

> > > Many Thanks !

> > > Regards,

> > > Fraser.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hello Sharma,

I guess, I grant you that.

Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what would

you say about the natives mental state.

I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again.

Thanks for your inputs and patience!!

Regards,

Fraser.

 

 

, " Raj Shekhar Sharma "

<rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

>

> Hello Fraser

>

> Point-wise comments are as under:

>

> .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

>

> Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it

is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered

strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with

morality of the native.

>

> .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

>

> The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord.

There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are

afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an

affliction of 20% will count.

>

>

> .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

>

> As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is

not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth

lord both are under close

> affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

> circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely

harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed

significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good

influence, there could be some relief. "

>

> .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

>

> Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted.

>

>

> Raj Shekhar

>

> Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> Regards,

> Fraser.

>

> -

> fraser

>

> Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM

> Re: emotions

>

>

> Hello Sharma,

> You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing).

> You may want to look at these credentials of the chart.

> .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> Regards,

> Fraser.

>

>

>

> , rajshekhar sharma

> <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello fraser

> >

> > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your

> questions.

> >

> > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally

> speaking,

> > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage,

desire

> and

> > intelligence.

> > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling

obstructions.

> The lord of

> > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and

> afflicted.

> > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative

> mentality.

> > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are

under

> close

> > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

> circumstances

> > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed.

Even

> the

> > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly

because

> of this.

> > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some

> relief.

> >

> > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH

THE

> MIND MAY

> > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS

> INTELLIGENCE

> > APPROPRIATELY.

> >

> > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> >

> > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD.

AS

> SUCH BOTH

> > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT

OF

> THEIR

> > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED

IN

> AFFLICTED

> > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY

WHILE

> COMBUST

> > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION.

> >

> >

> > BEST WISHES

> >

> > RAJ SHEKHAR

> > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello murali,

> > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND

JUPITER ARE

> > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE

TRUSTWORTHINESS

> > > DOWN. "

> > > Now,

> > > Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> > > The Sun weak.

> > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%.

> > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> > > So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> > > AND WE HAVE

> > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%)

> > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > >

> > > Look forward to your inputs.

> > > Regards,

> > > Fraser.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , mrm@t... wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> > > >

> > > > I have not understood your question.

> > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > > > I have the following to say:

> > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> > > >

> > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

> > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> > > >

> > > > From the birth data you have given:

> > > > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is

also

> > > affected.

> > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is

strong.

> > > > Regards

> > > > M.R.Murali

> > > > ----- wrote: -----

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > > > Sent by:

> > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > > > emotions

> > > >

> > > > Hello LIST,

> > > > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > > > emotional traits of this chart.

> > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the

mind.

> > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the

scope of

> > > good

> > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of

Jupiter and

> > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > > > good " setting " )

> > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart,

if

> you

> > > > please.

> > > > ----------------

> > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > > > ----------------

> > > > Many Thanks !

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Fraser.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hello Fraser

 

As per my understanding of astrology, placement of Moon [as a third lord] in

sixth house denotes that the native is Vulnerable to arguments/conflicts,

the aspect of Mars from 12th house generates quality of selfishness and

incapability to accept negative notions, even if justified, about his

attitude and behavior. The weakness/affliction on the part of Sun, being

fourth lord, adds to this and it can be analysed that the native is not easy

going person, offen indulges in disputes and arguments, tries to show his

disagreement in control [ though often fails], believes in hastyness while

initiating some new work/project/task, mentally remains confused and tensed

quite often even though tries his/her best to conceal.

 

Raj Shekhar Sharma

 

 

On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser wrote:

>

> Hello Sharma,

> I guess, I grant you that.

> Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what would

> you say about the natives mental state.

> I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again.

> Thanks for your inputs and patience!!

> Regards,

> Fraser.

>

>

> , " Raj Shekhar Sharma "

> <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Fraser

> >

> > Point-wise comments are as under:

> >

> > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> >

> > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it

> is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered

> strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with

> morality of the native.

> >

> > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> >

> > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord.

> There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are

> afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an

> affliction of 20% will count.

> >

> >

> > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> >

> > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is

> not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth

> lord both are under close

> > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

> > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely

> harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed

> significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good

> influence, there could be some relief. "

> >

> > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> >

> > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted.

> >

> >

> > Raj Shekhar

> >

> > Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> > -

> > fraser

> >

> > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM

> > Re: emotions

> >

> >

> > Hello Sharma,

> > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing).

> > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart.

> > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> > Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> >

> >

> > , rajshekhar sharma

> > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello fraser

> > >

> > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your

> > questions.

> > >

> > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally

> > speaking,

> > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage,

> desire

> > and

> > > intelligence.

> > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling

> obstructions.

> > The lord of

> > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and

> > afflicted.

> > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative

> > mentality.

> > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are

> under

> > close

> > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

> > circumstances

> > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed.

> Even

> > the

> > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly

> because

> > of this.

> > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some

> > relief.

> > >

> > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH

> THE

> > MIND MAY

> > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS

> > INTELLIGENCE

> > > APPROPRIATELY.

> > >

> > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > >

> > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD.

> AS

> > SUCH BOTH

> > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT

> OF

> > THEIR

> > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED

> IN

> > AFFLICTED

> > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY

> WHILE

> > COMBUST

> > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION.

> > >

> > >

> > > BEST WISHES

> > >

> > > RAJ SHEKHAR

> > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello murali,

> > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND

> JUPITER ARE

> > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE

> TRUSTWORTHINESS

> > > > DOWN. "

> > > > Now,

> > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> > > > The Sun weak.

> > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%.

> > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> > > > AND WE HAVE

> > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%)

> > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > > >

> > > > Look forward to your inputs.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Fraser.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , mrm@t... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not understood your question.

> > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > > > > I have the following to say:

> > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness.

> > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> > > > >

> > > > > From the birth data you have given:

> > > > > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is

> also

> > > > affected.

> > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is

> strong.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > M.R.Murali

> > > > > ----- wrote: -----

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > > > > Sent by:

> > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > > > > emotions

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello LIST,

> > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > > > > emotional traits of this chart.

> > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the

> mind.

> > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the

> scope of

> > > > good

> > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of

> Jupiter and

> > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a

> > > > > good " setting " )

> > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart,

> if

> > you

> > > > > please.

> > > > > ----------------

> > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > > > > ----------------

> > > > > Many Thanks !

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Fraser.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hello Sharma,

Thanks for it all.

you seem to be spot on.

are you in Bombay, India?

Regards,

Fraser

 

 

, rajshekhar sharma

<rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

>

> Hello Fraser

>

> As per my understanding of astrology, placement of Moon [as a third

lord] in

> sixth house denotes that the native is Vulnerable to

arguments/conflicts,

> the aspect of Mars from 12th house generates quality of selfishness

and

> incapability to accept negative notions, even if justified, about

his

> attitude and behavior. The weakness/affliction on the part of Sun,

being

> fourth lord, adds to this and it can be analysed that the native is

not easy

> going person, offen indulges in disputes and arguments, tries to

show his

> disagreement in control [ though often fails], believes in

hastyness while

> initiating some new work/project/task, mentally remains confused

and tensed

> quite often even though tries his/her best to conceal.

>

> Raj Shekhar Sharma

>

>

> On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Sharma,

> > I guess, I grant you that.

> > Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what

would

> > you say about the natives mental state.

> > I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again.

> > Thanks for your inputs and patience!!

> > Regards,

> > Fraser.

> >

> >

> > , " Raj Shekhar Sharma "

> > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Fraser

> > >

> > > Point-wise comments are as under:

> > >

> > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> > >

> > > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But

it

> > is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be

considered

> > strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with

> > morality of the native.

> > >

> > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> > >

> > > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord.

> > There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are

> > afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even

an

> > affliction of 20% will count.

> > >

> > >

> > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> > >

> > > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury

is

> > not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by

fifth

> > lord both are under close

> > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

> > > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are

severely

> > harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed

> > significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good

> > influence, there could be some relief. "

> > >

> > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> > >

> > > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted.

> > >

> > >

> > > Raj Shekhar

> > >

> > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> > > Regards,

> > > Fraser.

> > >

> > > -

> > > fraser

> > >

> > > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM

> > > Re: emotions

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Sharma,

> > > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good

thing).

> > > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart.

> > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> > > Regards,

> > > Fraser.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , rajshekhar sharma

> > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello fraser

> > > >

> > > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your

> > > questions.

> > > >

> > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally

> > > speaking,

> > > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage,

> > desire

> > > and

> > > > intelligence.

> > > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling

> > obstructions.

> > > The lord of

> > > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and

> > > afflicted.

> > > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with

negative

> > > mentality.

> > > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both

are

> > under

> > > close

> > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under

such

> > > circumstances

> > > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely

harmed.

> > Even

> > > the

> > > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly

> > because

> > > of this.

> > > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be

some

> > > relief.

> > > >

> > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH

> > THE

> > > MIND MAY

> > > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS

> > > INTELLIGENCE

> > > > APPROPRIATELY.

> > > >

> > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > > >

> > > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS

REGARD.

> > AS

> > > SUCH BOTH

> > > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT

IMPACT

> > OF

> > > THEIR

> > > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY

PLACED

> > IN

> > > AFFLICTED

> > > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE

SMOOTHLY

> > WHILE

> > > COMBUST

> > > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY

CONSTITUTION.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > BEST WISHES

> > > >

> > > > RAJ SHEKHAR

> > > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello murali,

> > > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> > > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND

> > JUPITER ARE

> > > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE

> > TRUSTWORTHINESS

> > > > > DOWN. "

> > > > > Now,

> > > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> > > > > The Sun weak.

> > > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only

30%.

> > > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> > > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> > > > > AND WE HAVE

> > > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> > > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu

10%)

> > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Look forward to your inputs.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Fraser.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , mrm@t... wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have not understood your question.

> > > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > > > > > I have the following to say:

> > > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic

happiness.

> > > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From the birth data you have given:

> > > > > > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is

> > also

> > > > > affected.

> > > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is

> > strong.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > M.R.Murali

> > > > > > ----- wrote: -----

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > > > > > Sent by:

> > > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > > > > > emotions

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello LIST,

> > > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > > > > > emotional traits of this chart.

> > > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and

the

> > mind.

> > > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the

> > scope of

> > > > > good

> > > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of

> > Jupiter and

> > > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as

a

> > > > > > good " setting " )

> > > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the

chart,

> > if

> > > you

> > > > > > please.

> > > > > > ----------------

> > > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > > > > > ----------------

> > > > > > Many Thanks !

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Fraser.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Hello Fraser

 

I am in Delhi, India

 

Raj Shekhar Sharma

 

 

On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser wrote:

>

> Hello Sharma,

> Thanks for it all.

> you seem to be spot on.

> are you in Bombay, India?

> Regards,

> Fraser

>

>

> , rajshekhar sharma

> <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Fraser

> >

> > As per my understanding of astrology, placement of Moon [as a third

> lord] in

> > sixth house denotes that the native is Vulnerable to

> arguments/conflicts,

> > the aspect of Mars from 12th house generates quality of selfishness

> and

> > incapability to accept negative notions, even if justified, about

> his

> > attitude and behavior. The weakness/affliction on the part of Sun,

> being

> > fourth lord, adds to this and it can be analysed that the native is

> not easy

> > going person, offen indulges in disputes and arguments, tries to

> show his

> > disagreement in control [ though often fails], believes in

> hastyness while

> > initiating some new work/project/task, mentally remains confused

> and tensed

> > quite often even though tries his/her best to conceal.

> >

> > Raj Shekhar Sharma

> >

> >

> > On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Sharma,

> > > I guess, I grant you that.

> > > Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what

> would

> > > you say about the natives mental state.

> > > I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again.

> > > Thanks for your inputs and patience!!

> > > Regards,

> > > Fraser.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Raj Shekhar Sharma "

> > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Fraser

> > > >

> > > > Point-wise comments are as under:

> > > >

> > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> > > >

> > > > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But

> it

> > > is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be

> considered

> > > strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with

> > > morality of the native.

> > > >

> > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> > > >

> > > > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord.

> > > There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are

> > > afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even

> an

> > > affliction of 20% will count.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> > > >

> > > > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury

> is

> > > not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by

> fifth

> > > lord both are under close

> > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such

> > > > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are

> severely

> > > harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed

> > > significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good

> > > influence, there could be some relief. "

> > > >

> > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> > > >

> > > > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Raj Shekhar

> > > >

> > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> > > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Fraser.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > fraser

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM

> > > > Re: emotions

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello Sharma,

> > > > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good

> thing).

> > > > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart.

> > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust.

> > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40%

> > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc.

> > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc.

> > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET.

> > > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Fraser.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , rajshekhar sharma

> > > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello fraser

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your

> > > > questions.

> > > > >

> > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally

> > > > speaking,

> > > > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage,

> > > desire

> > > > and

> > > > > intelligence.

> > > > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling

> > > obstructions.

> > > > The lord of

> > > > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and

> > > > afflicted.

> > > > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with

> negative

> > > > mentality.

> > > > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both

> are

> > > under

> > > > close

> > > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under

> such

> > > > circumstances

> > > > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely

> harmed.

> > > Even

> > > > the

> > > > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly

> > > because

> > > > of this.

> > > > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be

> some

> > > > relief.

> > > > >

> > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH

> > > THE

> > > > MIND MAY

> > > > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS

> > > > INTELLIGENCE

> > > > > APPROPRIATELY.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > > > >

> > > > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS

> REGARD.

> > > AS

> > > > SUCH BOTH

> > > > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT

> IMPACT

> > > OF

> > > > THEIR

> > > > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY

> PLACED

> > > IN

> > > > AFFLICTED

> > > > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE

> SMOOTHLY

> > > WHILE

> > > > COMBUST

> > > > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY

> CONSTITUTION.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > BEST WISHES

> > > > >

> > > > > RAJ SHEKHAR

> > > > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello murali,

> > > > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote :

> > > > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND

> > > JUPITER ARE

> > > > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE

> > > TRUSTWORTHINESS

> > > > > > DOWN. "

> > > > > > Now,

> > > > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted.

> > > > > > The Sun weak.

> > > > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only

> 30%.

> > > > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs.

> > > > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up.

> > > > > > AND WE HAVE

> > > > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic.

> > > > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu

> 10%)

> > > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS:

> > > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'?

> > > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind.

> > > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ?

> > > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ?

> > > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look forward to your inputs.

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Fraser.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have not understood your question.

> > > > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma.

> > > > > > > I have the following to say:

> > > > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace.

> > > > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality.

> > > > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic

> happiness.

> > > > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From the birth data you have given:

> > > > > > > Mars afflicts Moon.

> > > > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is

> > > also

> > > > > > affected.

> > > > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn.

> > > > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is

> > > strong.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > M.R.Murali

> > > > > > > ----- wrote: -----

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...>

> > > > > > > Sent by:

> > > > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM

> > > > > > > emotions

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello LIST,

> > > > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please.

> > > > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart.

> > > > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and

> > > > > > > emotional traits of this chart.

> > > > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon.

> > > > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that.

> > > > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets

> > > > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and

> the

> > > mind.

> > > > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the

> > > scope of

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of

> > > Jupiter and

> > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as

> a

> > > > > > > good " setting " )

> > > > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the

> chart,

> > > if

> > > > you

> > > > > > > please.

> > > > > > > ----------------

> > > > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM

> > > > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT

> > > > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo

> > > > > > > ----------------

> > > > > > > Many Thanks !

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Fraser.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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