Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hello LIST, Your valued inputs, if you please. I have been studying this Taurus chart. Could anyone tell me the mental and emotional traits of this chart. WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a good " setting " ) I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you please. ---------------- DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT Current Dasa: Sa/Mo ---------------- Many Thanks ! Regards, Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hello Fraser, Please see my reply below, you can use the following to come up with the answer. Regards Amit , " fraser " <fraser@p...> wrote: > > Hello LIST, > Your valued inputs, if you please. > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > Could anyone tell me the mental and > emotional traits of this chart. USE THE STRENGTH AND PLACEMENT OF 5TH LORD MERCURY AND ITS SIGN OF PLACEMENT(MAKE SURE ITS NOT DEBILATED IN D5) THE MOON AND ITS DISPOSITOR VENUS AND ITS SIGN OF PLACEMENT LIBRA. THE ASPECT OF MARS TO MOON HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.(HINT: RELATIONSHIP ISSUES DUE TO EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY AND THUS DISPUTIVE INITIATIVES) THE STRENGHT AND ASPECT OF THE SUN THE 4th LORD THE NON AFFLICTING INFLUENCE OF MMP JUPITER THE ASPECT AND COMBINATION OF JUPITER,SATURN,KETU IN THE 5TH HOUSE (HINT: SPIRITUAL AND OCCULT OR IDEALISTIC RELIGIOUS INCLINATION) > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > good " setting " ) > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > please. > ---------------- > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > ---------------- > Many Thanks ! > Regards, > Fraser. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hello Amit, Thanks for your input - really appreciate it. what is EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY ? could you expand on that, please ? -the rest of your text was straight-forward. Thanks ! Regards, Fraser. , " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > > Hello Fraser, > > Please see my reply below, you can use the following to come up with > the answer. > Regards > Amit > > , " fraser " fraser@p... wrote: > > > > Hello LIST, > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > emotional traits of this chart. > USE THE STRENGTH AND PLACEMENT OF 5TH LORD MERCURY AND ITS SIGN OF > PLACEMENT(MAKE SURE ITS NOT DEBILATED IN D5) > THE MOON AND ITS DISPOSITOR VENUS AND ITS SIGN OF PLACEMENT LIBRA. > THE ASPECT OF MARS TO MOON HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.(HINT: RELATIONSHIP > ISSUES DUE TO EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY AND THUS DISPUTIVE INITIATIVES) > THE STRENGHT AND ASPECT OF THE SUN THE 4th LORD > THE NON AFFLICTING INFLUENCE OF MMP JUPITER > THE ASPECT AND COMBINATION OF JUPITER,SATURN,KETU IN THE 5TH HOUSE > (HINT: SPIRITUAL AND OCCULT OR IDEALISTIC RELIGIOUS INCLINATION) > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of > good > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > good " setting " ) > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > > please. > > ---------------- > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > ---------------- > > Many Thanks ! > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello Fraser First of all, a personal querry, if you don't mind. Are you somewhere in India or abroad? my comments are in CAPS below for your information. On 11/23/05, fraser <fraser wrote: > > Hello LIST, > Your valued inputs, if you please. > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > Could anyone tell me the mental and > emotional traits of this chart. > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. AS PER MY UNDERSTANDING OF ASTROLOGY MENTAL TRAITS AND EMOTIONAL TRAITS ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. EMOTIONAL MATTERS INCLUDING MENTAL PEACE IS TO BE ANALYSED THROUGH FOURTH HOUSE AND MOON WHILE INTELLIGENCE IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THROUGH FIFTH HOUSE AND JUPITER. MERCURY PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN BOTH THESE TRAITS, BEING SIGNIFICATOR OF ANALYTICAL ANALYSIS. FURTHER, THE NATAL CHART IS TO BE ANALYSED IN FULL AND NONE OF THE RELEVANT ASPECTS CAN BE IGNORED. WEAK AND FEMALE PLANETS, HAVING RELATION WITH 5TH HOUSE, MIXES THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE NATIVE WITH EMOTIONS DEPENDING UPON THEIR FUNCTIONAL AND GENERAL NATURE. HENCE, A BENEFIC MOON OR VENUS RELATED WITH FIFTH HOUSE MAY INSTIGATE THE NATIVE TO READ AND PERSUE THE I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good > analytical judgements. MY OBSERVATIONS ARE AS UNDER: INTELLIGENCE: FIFTH HOUSE IS AFFLICTED BY MALEFIC JUPITER'S PLACEMENT AND THERE ARE NO BENEFIC INFLUENCES OVER IT. THE FIFTH LORD IS ALSO PLACED IN LAGNA WHICH IS AFFLICTED BY JUPITER [MALEFIC PLANET RULING 8TH HOUSE]. FURTHER THE YOGAKARAKA SATURN IS PLACED IN 5TH HOUSE UNDER SEVERE AFFLICTION OF JUPITER AND BOTH THESE PLANETS I.E. JUPITER AND SATURN ARE AFFLICTED BY KETU'S ASPECT FROM 9TH HOUSE. APPARENTLY, THE FIFTH HOUSE SIGNIFICATIONS AND SIGNIFICATIONS OF MERCURY [ AS FIFTH LORD AND GENERAL SIGNIFICATIONS] ARE UNDER SEVERE OBSTRUCTIVE IMPACT OF JUPITER. HENCE, IT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE NATIVE'S INTELLIGENCE IS NOT LIKELY TO BE HELPFUL FOR HIM AND HE MAY TAKE WRONG DECISIONS. THE CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER AND SATURN, HAVING ASPECT OF KETU FROM 9TH HOUSE MAY CAUSE NATIVE TO HAVE DEEP SPIRITUAL INCLINATIONS BUT WITH NO HELP IN SOCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS. NATURE: FOURTH LORD SUN IS PLACED IN AN AFFLICTED HOUSE AND ITSELF AFFLICTED BY JUPITER'S ASPECT. THE SIGNIFICATOR MOON, IS PLACED IN 6TH HOUSE UNDER AFFLICTION OF MARS. HENCE, THE MENTAL PEACE OF THE NATIVE IS MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN DISTURB AND NATIVE IS NOT LIKELY TO HAVE A HEALTHY NATURE. HE MAY ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS LIKE FITS, ANGER, BEING HYPER-SENSITIVE DEPENDING UPON THE NATURE OF DASA. OVERALL, THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE NATIVE SEEMS TO BE FACING/FACED A LOT OF OBSTRUCTIONS. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > good " setting " ) PLEASE DO CONVEY YOUR COMMENTS. I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > please. > ---------------- > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > ---------------- > Many Thanks ! > Regards, > Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello Sharma, I do not reside in India. Your reading of the chart is impressive. I wonder, if this native is trustworthy. It's pretty much a mixed bag. what do you think ? and thanks much much for your post... Regards, Fraser. , rajshekhar sharma <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > Hello Fraser > > First of all, a personal querry, if you don't mind. Are you somewhere in > India or abroad? > > my comments are in CAPS below for your information. > > > On 11/23/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > Hello LIST, > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > emotional traits of this chart. > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > AS PER MY UNDERSTANDING OF ASTROLOGY MENTAL TRAITS AND EMOTIONAL TRAITS ARE > TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. EMOTIONAL MATTERS INCLUDING MENTAL PEACE IS TO BE > ANALYSED THROUGH FOURTH HOUSE AND MOON WHILE INTELLIGENCE IS TO BE > UNDERSTOOD THROUGH FIFTH HOUSE AND JUPITER. MERCURY PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN > BOTH THESE TRAITS, BEING SIGNIFICATOR OF ANALYTICAL ANALYSIS. > > FURTHER, THE NATAL CHART IS TO BE ANALYSED IN FULL AND NONE OF THE RELEVANT > ASPECTS CAN BE IGNORED. > > WEAK AND FEMALE PLANETS, HAVING RELATION WITH 5TH HOUSE, MIXES THE > INTELLIGENCE OF THE NATIVE WITH EMOTIONS DEPENDING UPON THEIR FUNCTIONAL AND > GENERAL NATURE. HENCE, A BENEFIC MOON OR VENUS RELATED WITH FIFTH HOUSE MAY > INSTIGATE THE NATIVE TO READ AND PERSUE THE > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good > > analytical judgements. > > > MY OBSERVATIONS ARE AS UNDER: > > INTELLIGENCE: FIFTH HOUSE IS AFFLICTED BY MALEFIC JUPITER'S PLACEMENT AND > THERE ARE NO BENEFIC INFLUENCES OVER IT. THE FIFTH LORD IS ALSO PLACED IN > LAGNA WHICH IS AFFLICTED BY JUPITER [MALEFIC PLANET RULING 8TH HOUSE]. > FURTHER THE YOGAKARAKA SATURN IS PLACED IN 5TH HOUSE UNDER SEVERE AFFLICTION > OF JUPITER AND BOTH THESE PLANETS I.E. JUPITER AND SATURN ARE AFFLICTED BY > KETU'S ASPECT FROM 9TH HOUSE. APPARENTLY, THE FIFTH HOUSE SIGNIFICATIONS > AND SIGNIFICATIONS OF MERCURY [ AS FIFTH LORD AND GENERAL SIGNIFICATIONS] > ARE UNDER SEVERE OBSTRUCTIVE IMPACT OF JUPITER. > HENCE, IT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE NATIVE'S INTELLIGENCE IS NOT LIKELY TO > BE HELPFUL FOR HIM AND HE MAY TAKE WRONG DECISIONS. THE CONJUNCTION OF > JUPITER AND SATURN, HAVING ASPECT OF KETU FROM 9TH HOUSE MAY CAUSE NATIVE TO > HAVE DEEP SPIRITUAL INCLINATIONS BUT WITH NO HELP IN SOCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL > MATTERS. > NATURE: FOURTH LORD SUN IS PLACED IN AN AFFLICTED HOUSE AND ITSELF > AFFLICTED BY JUPITER'S ASPECT. THE SIGNIFICATOR MOON, IS PLACED IN 6TH > HOUSE UNDER AFFLICTION OF MARS. HENCE, THE MENTAL PEACE OF THE NATIVE IS > MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN DISTURB AND NATIVE IS NOT LIKELY TO HAVE A HEALTHY > NATURE. HE MAY ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS LIKE FITS, ANGER, BEING HYPER- SENSITIVE > DEPENDING UPON THE NATURE OF DASA. OVERALL, THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE > NATIVE SEEMS TO BE FACING/FACED A LOT OF OBSTRUCTIONS. > > > I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > good " setting " ) > > > PLEASE DO CONVEY YOUR COMMENTS. > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > > please. > > ---------------- > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > ---------------- > > Many Thanks ! > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Dear Mr. Fraser, I have not understood your question. I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. I have the following to say: Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. Mercury rules courage and discrimination. The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. From the birth data you have given: Mars afflicts Moon. Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also affected. Ketu afflicts Saturn. I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong. Regards M.R.Murali ----- wrote: ----- " fraser " <fraser Sent by: 11/23/2005 08:50AM emotions Hello LIST, Your valued inputs, if you please. I have been studying this Taurus chart. Could anyone tell me the mental and emotional traits of this chart. WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a good " setting " ) I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you please. ---------------- DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT Current Dasa: Sa/Mo ---------------- Many Thanks ! Regards, Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello murali, Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS DOWN. " Now, Lord of 10th house afflicted. The Sun weak. Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. So, thats a 50/50 set up. AND WE HAVE Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) THE QUESTION HERE IS: Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? emotions and character has more to do with mind. Can intellect supercede the mind ? Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? See, I did not bring the moon into this. Look forward to your inputs. Regards, Fraser. , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > I have not understood your question. > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > I have the following to say: > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > From the birth data you have given: > Mars afflicts Moon. > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also affected. > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong. > Regards > M.R.Murali > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > Sent by: > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > emotions > > Hello LIST, > Your valued inputs, if you please. > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > Could anyone tell me the mental and > emotional traits of this chart. > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of good > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > good " setting " ) > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > please. > ---------------- > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > ---------------- > Many Thanks ! > Regards, > Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Dear Fraser, I am looking at the chart in the following way: Venus is not combust and hence the orb. of affliction is one degree. Jupiter is also strong and the orb. of affliction is also one degree. Only the 10th., 3rd., and 4th. houses are afflicted including their lords. Hence i think the native is trustworthy. Regards M.R.Murali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello fraser Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your questions. THE QUESTION HERE IS: Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally speaking, trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire and intelligence. The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions. The lord of initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and afflicted. Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative mentality. The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under close affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief. emotions and character has more to do with mind. Can intellect supercede the mind ? YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE MIND MAY SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS INTELLIGENCE APPROPRIATELY. Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? See, I did not bring the moon into this. THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS SUCH BOTH THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THEIR SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN AFFLICTED LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE COMBUST VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION. BEST WISHES RAJ SHEKHAR On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser wrote: > > Hello murali, > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS > DOWN. " > Now, > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > The Sun weak. > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > AND WE HAVE > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > Look forward to your inputs. > Regards, > Fraser. > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > I have not understood your question. > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > I have the following to say: > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also > affected. > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong. > > Regards > > M.R.Murali > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > Sent by: > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > emotions > > > > Hello LIST, > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > emotional traits of this chart. > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of > good > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > good " setting " ) > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > > please. > > ---------------- > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > ---------------- > > Many Thanks ! > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello Murali, Please offer your comment on these positions. •Sun weak. •Lord of 10th house weak. •MMP Jupiter in the 5th House. ALSO, with such a powerful Mercury, and such low morality. How upright and righteous can he be ? Regards, Fraser , mrm@t... wrote: > > > Dear Fraser, > > I am looking at the chart in the following way: > Venus is not combust and hence the orb. of affliction is one degree. > Jupiter is also strong and the orb. of affliction is also one degree. > Only the 10th., 3rd., and 4th. houses are afflicted including their lords. > Hence i think the native is trustworthy. > Regards > M.R.Murali > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello Sharma, You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing). You may want to look at these credentials of the chart. •Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. •Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% •Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. •Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. Let's not get the moon into this, YET. Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. Regards, Fraser. , rajshekhar sharma <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > Hello fraser > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your questions. > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally speaking, > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire and > intelligence. > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions. The lord of > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and afflicted. > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative mentality. > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under close > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such circumstances > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even the > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of this. > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief. > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE MIND MAY > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS INTELLIGENCE > APPROPRIATELY. > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS SUCH BOTH > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THEIR > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN AFFLICTED > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE COMBUST > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION. > > > BEST WISHES > > RAJ SHEKHAR > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > Hello murali, > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS > > DOWN. " > > Now, > > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > > The Sun weak. > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > > AND WE HAVE > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > Look forward to your inputs. > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > > > I have not understood your question. > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > > I have the following to say: > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also > > affected. > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong. > > > Regards > > > M.R.Murali > > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > > Sent by: > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > > emotions > > > > > > Hello LIST, > > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > > emotional traits of this chart. > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of > > good > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > > good " setting " ) > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > > > please. > > > ---------------- > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > > ---------------- > > > Many Thanks ! > > > Regards, > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear Fraser, Sun is weak. The 4th. house significations are : mother, vehicles, education, properties and general happiness. Moon is weak and hence affects mother.Mercury is somewhat strong and hence does not affect education both basic and higher.Mars is in own house though in the 12th. house and hence strong.Properties are not affected.Affects father because saturn and sun are weak.Venus placed in slightly weak lagna and hence vehicles could be affected. The 10th. house significations are:father, character, profession,male progeny etc.Saturn is the primary significator.The secondary are, Sun, Venus, mercury and jupiter.Saturn and Sun are weak. I still think Jupiter is strong and hence morally strong. Regards M.R.Murali ----- wrote: ----- " fraser " <fraser Sent by: 11/24/2005 09:38PM Re: emotions Hello Murali, Please offer your comment on these positions. •Sun weak. •Lord of 10th house weak. •MMP Jupiter in the 5th House. ALSO, with such a powerful Mercury, and such low morality. How upright and righteous can he be ? Regards, Fraser , mrm@t... wrote: > > > Dear Fraser, > > I am looking at the chart in the following way: > Venus is not combust and hence the orb. of affliction is one degree. > Jupiter is also strong and the orb. of affliction is also one degree. > Only the 10th., 3rd., and 4th. houses are afflicted including their lords. > Hence i think the native is trustworthy. > Regards > M.R.Murali > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hello Fraser Point-wise comments are as under: ..Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with morality of the native. ..Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord. There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an affliction of 20% will count. ..Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under close affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief. " ..Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted. Raj Shekhar Let's not get the moon into this, YET. Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. Regards, Fraser. - fraser Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM Re: emotions Hello Sharma, You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing). You may want to look at these credentials of the chart. .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. Let's not get the moon into this, YET. Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. Regards, Fraser. , rajshekhar sharma <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > Hello fraser > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your questions. > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally speaking, > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire and > intelligence. > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions. The lord of > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and afflicted. > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative mentality. > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under close > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such circumstances > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even the > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of this. > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief. > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE MIND MAY > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS INTELLIGENCE > APPROPRIATELY. > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS SUCH BOTH > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THEIR > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN AFFLICTED > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE COMBUST > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION. > > > BEST WISHES > > RAJ SHEKHAR > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > Hello murali, > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS > > DOWN. " > > Now, > > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > > The Sun weak. > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > > AND WE HAVE > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > Look forward to your inputs. > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > > > I have not understood your question. > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > > I have the following to say: > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also > > affected. > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong. > > > Regards > > > M.R.Murali > > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > > Sent by: > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > > emotions > > > > > > Hello LIST, > > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > > emotional traits of this chart. > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of > > good > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > > good " setting " ) > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if you > > > please. > > > ---------------- > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > > ---------------- > > > Many Thanks ! > > > Regards, > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hello Sharma, I guess, I grant you that. Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what would you say about the natives mental state. I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again. Thanks for your inputs and patience!! Regards, Fraser. , " Raj Shekhar Sharma " <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > Hello Fraser > > Point-wise comments are as under: > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with morality of the native. > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord. There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an affliction of 20% will count. > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under close > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some relief. " > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted. > > > Raj Shekhar > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > Regards, > Fraser. > > - > fraser > > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM > Re: emotions > > > Hello Sharma, > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing). > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart. > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > Regards, > Fraser. > > > > , rajshekhar sharma > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > Hello fraser > > > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your > questions. > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally > speaking, > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, desire > and > > intelligence. > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling obstructions. > The lord of > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and > afflicted. > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative > mentality. > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are under > close > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > circumstances > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. Even > the > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly because > of this. > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some > relief. > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH THE > MIND MAY > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS > INTELLIGENCE > > APPROPRIATELY. > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. AS > SUCH BOTH > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT OF > THEIR > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED IN > AFFLICTED > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY WHILE > COMBUST > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION. > > > > > > BEST WISHES > > > > RAJ SHEKHAR > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello murali, > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND JUPITER ARE > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE TRUSTWORTHINESS > > > DOWN. " > > > Now, > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > > > The Sun weak. > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > > > AND WE HAVE > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > Look forward to your inputs. > > > Regards, > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > > > > > I have not understood your question. > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > > > I have the following to say: > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is also > > > affected. > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is strong. > > > > Regards > > > > M.R.Murali > > > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > > > Sent by: > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > > > emotions > > > > > > > > Hello LIST, > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > > > emotional traits of this chart. > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the mind. > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the scope of > > > good > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of Jupiter and > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > > > good " setting " ) > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, if > you > > > > please. > > > > ---------------- > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > > > ---------------- > > > > Many Thanks ! > > > > Regards, > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hello Fraser As per my understanding of astrology, placement of Moon [as a third lord] in sixth house denotes that the native is Vulnerable to arguments/conflicts, the aspect of Mars from 12th house generates quality of selfishness and incapability to accept negative notions, even if justified, about his attitude and behavior. The weakness/affliction on the part of Sun, being fourth lord, adds to this and it can be analysed that the native is not easy going person, offen indulges in disputes and arguments, tries to show his disagreement in control [ though often fails], believes in hastyness while initiating some new work/project/task, mentally remains confused and tensed quite often even though tries his/her best to conceal. Raj Shekhar Sharma On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser wrote: > > Hello Sharma, > I guess, I grant you that. > Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what would > you say about the natives mental state. > I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again. > Thanks for your inputs and patience!! > Regards, > Fraser. > > > , " Raj Shekhar Sharma " > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > Hello Fraser > > > > Point-wise comments are as under: > > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > > > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it > is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered > strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with > morality of the native. > > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > > > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord. > There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are > afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an > affliction of 20% will count. > > > > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > > > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is > not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth > lord both are under close > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely > harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed > significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good > influence, there could be some relief. " > > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > > > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted. > > > > > > Raj Shekhar > > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > - > > fraser > > > > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM > > Re: emotions > > > > > > Hello Sharma, > > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing). > > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart. > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > , rajshekhar sharma > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello fraser > > > > > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your > > questions. > > > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally > > speaking, > > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, > desire > > and > > > intelligence. > > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling > obstructions. > > The lord of > > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and > > afflicted. > > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative > > mentality. > > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are > under > > close > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > > circumstances > > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. > Even > > the > > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly > because > > of this. > > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some > > relief. > > > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH > THE > > MIND MAY > > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS > > INTELLIGENCE > > > APPROPRIATELY. > > > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. > AS > > SUCH BOTH > > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT > OF > > THEIR > > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED > IN > > AFFLICTED > > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY > WHILE > > COMBUST > > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION. > > > > > > > > > BEST WISHES > > > > > > RAJ SHEKHAR > > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello murali, > > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND > JUPITER ARE > > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE > TRUSTWORTHINESS > > > > DOWN. " > > > > Now, > > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > > > > The Sun weak. > > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. > > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > > > > AND WE HAVE > > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > > > Look forward to your inputs. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > > > > > > > I have not understood your question. > > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > > > > I have the following to say: > > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > > > > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > > > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is > also > > > > affected. > > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is > strong. > > > > > Regards > > > > > M.R.Murali > > > > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > > > > Sent by: > > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > > > > emotions > > > > > > > > > > Hello LIST, > > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > > > > emotional traits of this chart. > > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the > mind. > > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the > scope of > > > > good > > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of > Jupiter and > > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > > > > good " setting " ) > > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, > if > > you > > > > > please. > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > Many Thanks ! > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hello Sharma, Thanks for it all. you seem to be spot on. are you in Bombay, India? Regards, Fraser , rajshekhar sharma <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > Hello Fraser > > As per my understanding of astrology, placement of Moon [as a third lord] in > sixth house denotes that the native is Vulnerable to arguments/conflicts, > the aspect of Mars from 12th house generates quality of selfishness and > incapability to accept negative notions, even if justified, about his > attitude and behavior. The weakness/affliction on the part of Sun, being > fourth lord, adds to this and it can be analysed that the native is not easy > going person, offen indulges in disputes and arguments, tries to show his > disagreement in control [ though often fails], believes in hastyness while > initiating some new work/project/task, mentally remains confused and tensed > quite often even though tries his/her best to conceal. > > Raj Shekhar Sharma > > > On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > Hello Sharma, > > I guess, I grant you that. > > Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what would > > you say about the natives mental state. > > I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again. > > Thanks for your inputs and patience!! > > Regards, > > Fraser. > > > > > > , " Raj Shekhar Sharma " > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Fraser > > > > > > Point-wise comments are as under: > > > > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > > > > > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But it > > is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be considered > > strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with > > morality of the native. > > > > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > > > > > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord. > > There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are > > afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even an > > affliction of 20% will count. > > > > > > > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > > > > > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury is > > not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth > > lord both are under close > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > > > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are severely > > harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed > > significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good > > influence, there could be some relief. " > > > > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > > > > > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted. > > > > > > > > > Raj Shekhar > > > > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > > > Regards, > > > Fraser. > > > > > > - > > > fraser > > > > > > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM > > > Re: emotions > > > > > > > > > Hello Sharma, > > > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good thing). > > > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart. > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > > > Regards, > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > , rajshekhar sharma > > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello fraser > > > > > > > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your > > > questions. > > > > > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally > > > speaking, > > > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, > > desire > > > and > > > > intelligence. > > > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling > > obstructions. > > > The lord of > > > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and > > > afflicted. > > > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with negative > > > mentality. > > > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both are > > under > > > close > > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > > > circumstances > > > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely harmed. > > Even > > > the > > > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly > > because > > > of this. > > > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be some > > > relief. > > > > > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH > > THE > > > MIND MAY > > > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS > > > INTELLIGENCE > > > > APPROPRIATELY. > > > > > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS REGARD. > > AS > > > SUCH BOTH > > > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT IMPACT > > OF > > > THEIR > > > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY PLACED > > IN > > > AFFLICTED > > > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE SMOOTHLY > > WHILE > > > COMBUST > > > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY CONSTITUTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > BEST WISHES > > > > > > > > RAJ SHEKHAR > > > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello murali, > > > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > > > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND > > JUPITER ARE > > > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE > > TRUSTWORTHINESS > > > > > DOWN. " > > > > > Now, > > > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > > > > > The Sun weak. > > > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only 30%. > > > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > > > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > > > > > AND WE HAVE > > > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > > > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu 10%) > > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > > > > > Look forward to your inputs. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not understood your question. > > > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > > > > > I have the following to say: > > > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic happiness. > > > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > > > > > > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > > > > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is > > also > > > > > affected. > > > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is > > strong. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > M.R.Murali > > > > > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > > > > > Sent by: > > > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > > > > > emotions > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello LIST, > > > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > > > > > emotional traits of this chart. > > > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and the > > mind. > > > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the > > scope of > > > > > good > > > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of > > Jupiter and > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as a > > > > > > good " setting " ) > > > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the chart, > > if > > > you > > > > > > please. > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > Many Thanks ! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hello Fraser I am in Delhi, India Raj Shekhar Sharma On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser wrote: > > Hello Sharma, > Thanks for it all. > you seem to be spot on. > are you in Bombay, India? > Regards, > Fraser > > > , rajshekhar sharma > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > Hello Fraser > > > > As per my understanding of astrology, placement of Moon [as a third > lord] in > > sixth house denotes that the native is Vulnerable to > arguments/conflicts, > > the aspect of Mars from 12th house generates quality of selfishness > and > > incapability to accept negative notions, even if justified, about > his > > attitude and behavior. The weakness/affliction on the part of Sun, > being > > fourth lord, adds to this and it can be analysed that the native is > not easy > > going person, offen indulges in disputes and arguments, tries to > show his > > disagreement in control [ though often fails], believes in > hastyness while > > initiating some new work/project/task, mentally remains confused > and tensed > > quite often even though tries his/her best to conceal. > > > > Raj Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > On 11/26/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Sharma, > > > I guess, I grant you that. > > > Now, counting all of this, WITH the badly afflicted moon, what > would > > > you say about the natives mental state. > > > I'd like to know your views, if you would oblige yet again. > > > Thanks for your inputs and patience!! > > > Regards, > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > , " Raj Shekhar Sharma " > > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Fraser > > > > > > > > Point-wise comments are as under: > > > > > > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > > > > > > > Yeah, though JJ shows it combust the Venus is not combust. But > it > > > is afflicted by Ketu's aspect from 9th house so can not be > considered > > > strong. Even if it had been strong, it has nothing to do with > > > morality of the native. > > > > > > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > > > > > > > The fact is that Lagna is afflicted by Jupiter i.e. 8th lord. > > > There are not benefic influences over Lagna. Further, there are > > > afflicted planets i.e. Sun and Venus placed in Lagna; hence even > an > > > affliction of 20% will count. > > > > > > > > > > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > > > > > > > As I have mentioned in my previous mail, in my opinion, Mercury > is > > > not strong enough. " The fifth house and the house occupied by > fifth > > > lord both are under close > > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under such > > > > circumstances the functional significations of Mercury are > severely > > > harmed. Even the general significations of Mercury are harmed > > > significantly because of this. Had mercury been under some good > > > influence, there could be some relief. " > > > > > > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > > > > > > > Venus is a malefic for the nativity and also afflicted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Shekhar > > > > > > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > > > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > - > > > > fraser > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:58 PM > > > > Re: emotions > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sharma, > > > > You are never " interrupting " , -you are " inputing " (a good > thing). > > > > You may want to look at these credentials of the chart. > > > > .Venus is more than 10degs away from the Sun-NOT combust. > > > > .Jupiter's affliction on Ascendant-40% > > > > .Jupiter's depositor Mecury, strong and in Asc. > > > > .Venus, strong and in own house(though not MT house)in Asc. > > > > Let's not get the moon into this, YET. > > > > Let's delineate and get to something so final, so brutal. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , rajshekhar sharma > > > > <rajshekhar.sharma@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello fraser > > > > > > > > > > Hope I am not interrupting. I have following to say on your > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > > > No, the person can not be termed as Trustworthy. Generally > > > > speaking, > > > > > trustworthiness requires courage including all i.e. courage, > > > desire > > > > and > > > > > intelligence. > > > > > The lagna is afflicted by malefic 8th lord ruling > > > obstructions. > > > > The lord of > > > > > initiative i.e. the third lord is ill-placed (6th house) and > > > > afflicted. > > > > > Such combinations makes the native super-stitious with > negative > > > > mentality. > > > > > The fifth house and the house occupied by fifth lord both > are > > > under > > > > close > > > > > affliction of the same planet i.e. the Jupiter and under > such > > > > circumstances > > > > > the functional significations of Mercury are severely > harmed. > > > Even > > > > the > > > > > general significations of Mercury are harmed significantly > > > because > > > > of this. > > > > > Had mercury been under some good influence, there could be > some > > > > relief. > > > > > > > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > > > YES, IT MAY HAPPEND THAT A PERSON CAN BE INTELLECTUAL THOUGH > > > THE > > > > MIND MAY > > > > > SUFFER. AS A RESULT, THE PERSON MAY FAIL TO UTILISE ITS > > > > INTELLIGENCE > > > > > APPROPRIATELY. > > > > > > > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > > > > > THE PLACEMENT OF PLANETS IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD, IN THIS > REGARD. > > > AS > > > > SUCH BOTH > > > > > THESE PLANETS ARE PLACED IN LAGNA, IT CARRY THE DIRECT > IMPACT > > > OF > > > > THEIR > > > > > SIGNIFICATIONS/STRENGTH ETC. OVER THE NATIVITY. MERCURY > PLACED > > > IN > > > > AFFLICTED > > > > > LAGNA, WILL NOT ALLOW NATIVE TO USE HIS INTELLIGENCE > SMOOTHLY > > > WHILE > > > > COMBUST > > > > > VENUS IN LAGNA MAKES HIM SHORT-TEMPERED AND UNEASY > CONSTITUTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEST WISHES > > > > > > > > > > RAJ SHEKHAR > > > > > On 11/24/05, fraser <fraser@p...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello murali, > > > > > > Regarding trustworthiness, I quote : > > > > > > " BESIDES THE TENTH HOUSE THE FOURTH HOUSE, THE SUN AND > > > JUPITER ARE > > > > > > ALSO TO BE SEEN. THE INFLUENCE OF RAHU BRINGS THE > > > TRUSTWORTHINESS > > > > > > DOWN. " > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > Lord of 10th house afflicted. > > > > > > The Sun weak. > > > > > > Jupiter strong and well placed BUT afflicted by Ketu only > 30%. > > > > > > Rahu not afflicting, atleast not the MEPs. > > > > > > So, thats a 50/50 set up. > > > > > > AND WE HAVE > > > > > > Lord of 5th House strong and well placed and benefic. > > > > > > Venus strong in the ascendent (though afflicted by Ketu > 10%) > > > > > > THE QUESTION HERE IS: > > > > > > Trustworthy ? -Is it a 'YES' or a 'NO'? > > > > > > emotions and character has more to do with mind. > > > > > > Can intellect supercede the mind ? > > > > > > Can Venus and Mercury overcome the rest of the chart ? > > > > > > See, I did not bring the moon into this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Look forward to your inputs. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , mrm@t... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Fraser, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not understood your question. > > > > > > > I have seen the mail of Mr. Sharma. > > > > > > > I have the following to say: > > > > > > > Moon broadly rules emotional and mental peace. > > > > > > > Jupiter broadly rules intelligence and morality. > > > > > > > Mercury rules courage and discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th. house rules mental peace and domestic > happiness. > > > > > > > The 5th. house rules emotional peace and intelligence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the birth data you have given: > > > > > > > Mars afflicts Moon. > > > > > > > Jupiter afflicts Saturn and Sun. Hence the 4th. house is > > > also > > > > > > affected. > > > > > > > Ketu afflicts Saturn. > > > > > > > I think Jupiter is not afflicted by Ketu and Mercury is > > > strong. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > M.R.Murali > > > > > > > ----- wrote: ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " fraser " <fraser@p...> > > > > > > > Sent by: > > > > > > > 11/23/2005 08:50AM > > > > > > > emotions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello LIST, > > > > > > > Your valued inputs, if you please. > > > > > > > I have been studying this Taurus chart. > > > > > > > Could anyone tell me the mental and > > > > > > > emotional traits of this chart. > > > > > > > WITHOUT considering Mars aspect on the moon. > > > > > > > I mean, using only 5th house(emotions) and all of that. > > > > > > > For instance, strong Mercury,Yes ! BUT then, the planets > > > > > > > in the 5th House, don't do much for the intellect and > the > > > mind. > > > > > > > As I see it, if the mind is confused, then where is the > > > scope of > > > > > > good > > > > > > > analytical judgements. I fail to see the " beauty " of > > > Jupiter and > > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo ( which I believe, is hailed by many as > a > > > > > > > good " setting " ) > > > > > > > I look forward to your inputs about EMOTIONS in the > chart, > > > if > > > > you > > > > > > > please. > > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > > DOB:18May1981 TOB:6:00AM > > > > > > > 74E28 21N33 Zone: -05:30 INT > > > > > > > Current Dasa: Sa/Mo > > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > > Many Thanks ! > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Fraser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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