Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 This post brough to my mind the discussion of the house of the Father. Should it be 9th or 10th. Whereas it would make sense to be 10th, looking at my chart and the chart of other people it also makes sense to be 9th. 10th would make sense because it would be 7th from 4th... so why is it 9th, not 10th? In my case, makes more sense 9th because my father has indeed Sun in Virgo and I was indeed separated from him (Ketu and Jupiter's affliction). If it was 10th, then my father should be a strong man, because my Venus is strong and it is Yogakaraka, but he has all his life been a weak man... However for many people, 10th works as house of Father. Is there a logical explanation for 9th to be house of father or does it only come from experience? Why are there 2 schools of though that say 9th and 10th??? Thanks, Rui. On 14/11/05, siha <siha wrote: > > Hello dear Amit, > > I did not misread PNR's message. Navamsa weakness and affliction are just > contributory factors. The reading should be based on the natal placements, > strength and weaknesses only. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6 > > Monday, November 14, 2005 8:06 AM > Re: spiritual stuff > > > > > > Hello Dear Professor, > > > > Is it to be understood, we can make readings such a problems to father > > etc or spiritual progress etc with the affliction of ketu to the sun > > on the D9, and hence in al D charts, or you mis-read, PNR as Natal > > chart instead of Navamsha. > > > > Regards > > Amit > > , <siha> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello PNR, > >> > >> It may cause problems to employment, father and the husband in case of > >> females. The impact of Ketu to the Sun induces further interest in > > spiritual > >> matters, as well. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> > >> Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:47 PM > >> Re: spiritual stuff > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Dear Sir, > >> > > >> > Thank you for your reply. Can I ask what is the effect of Sun placed > >> > in the 8th and aspected by ketu in the navamsha? > >> > > >> > Thanks and regards > >> > PNR > >> > > >> > , <siha> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hello PNR, > >> >> > >> >> Both the Sun and Jupiter are quite strong in your chart and has > >> > good > >> >> influence for spiritual advancement. Both of these planets are not > >> >> debilitated in navamsa. Dispositor concept is not applied in > >> > navamsa. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> >> > >> >> Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:11 AM > >> >> Re: spiritual stuff > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Dear Sir, > >> >> > > >> >> > I do have a query regarding sun and jupiter. In my chart being a > >> >> > libra asc 9th house is a non MT sign. Both Sun and Jupiter are > >> >> > placed there and un afflicted. But in the Navamsha jupiter is > >> > placed > >> >> > well but slightly weakened because of a weak dispositor and Sun > >> > is > >> >> > placed in the 8th and aspected by ketu so does that mean that > >> > there > >> >> > will be obstructions in spiritual pursuits...? > >> >> > > >> >> > How does one interpret this considering that the navamsha is > >> > looked > >> >> > at for religious pursuits? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks and regards > >> >> > PNR > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > , <siha> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hello dear Mr. Fraser, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Consider the strength of the Sun and Jupiter since there is no > >> > MT > >> >> > sign in > >> >> >> the ninth house. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> - > >> >> >> " fraser " <fraser@p...> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:59 PM > >> >> >> spiritual stuff > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> >> > my interpretetion stops, when I come across this situation- > >> > could > >> >> > you > >> >> >> > please throw some light. > >> >> >> > For Taurus Asc.---ninth house for spirituality-is the strength > >> >> > to be > >> >> >> > taken in regards to the Lord (Saturn)? > >> >> >> > and also what if ketu is posited in the 9th house--but saturn > >> >> > being > >> >> >> > weak elsewhere-- > >> >> >> > Is the native spiritual or otherwise ? > >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> > Fraser. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Hello Rui, In matters of astrological principles worldly logic/sense has to kept aside where the fundamentals are concerned. Ninth is the house of father and there is no scope of any discussion. Best wishes, - " rupamede " <rupamede Monday, November 14, 2005 2:09 PM House of the Father > This post brough to my mind the discussion of the house of the Father. > Should it be 9th or 10th. Whereas it would make sense to be 10th, > looking at my chart and the chart of other people it also makes sense > to be 9th. 10th would make sense because it would be 7th from 4th... > so why is it 9th, not 10th? > In my case, makes more sense 9th because my father has indeed Sun in > Virgo and I was indeed separated from him (Ketu and Jupiter's > affliction). If it was 10th, then my father should be a strong man, > because my Venus is strong and it is Yogakaraka, but he has all his > life been a weak man... However for many people, 10th works as house > of Father. > Is there a logical explanation for 9th to be house of father or does > it only come from experience? Why are there 2 schools of though that > say 9th and 10th??? > Thanks, Rui. > > On 14/11/05, siha <siha > wrote: >> >> Hello dear Amit, >> >> I did not misread PNR's message. Navamsa weakness and affliction are just >> contributory factors. The reading should be based on the natal >> placements, >> strength and weaknesses only. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> - >> " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6 >> >> Monday, November 14, 2005 8:06 AM >> Re: spiritual stuff >> >> >> > >> > Hello Dear Professor, >> > >> > Is it to be understood, we can make readings such a problems to father >> > etc or spiritual progress etc with the affliction of ketu to the sun >> > on the D9, and hence in al D charts, or you mis-read, PNR as Natal >> > chart instead of Navamsha. >> > >> > Regards >> > Amit >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> It may cause problems to employment, father and the husband in case of >> >> females. The impact of Ketu to the Sun induces further interest in >> > spiritual >> >> matters, as well. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> >> >> >> >> Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:47 PM >> >> Re: spiritual stuff >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Dear Sir, >> >> > >> >> > Thank you for your reply. Can I ask what is the effect of Sun placed >> >> > in the 8th and aspected by ketu in the navamsha? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks and regards >> >> > PNR >> >> > >> >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> >> >> Both the Sun and Jupiter are quite strong in your chart and has >> >> > good >> >> >> influence for spiritual advancement. Both of these planets are not >> >> >> debilitated in navamsa. Dispositor concept is not applied in >> >> > navamsa. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:11 AM >> >> >> Re: spiritual stuff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dear Sir, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I do have a query regarding sun and jupiter. In my chart being a >> >> >> > libra asc 9th house is a non MT sign. Both Sun and Jupiter are >> >> >> > placed there and un afflicted. But in the Navamsha jupiter is >> >> > placed >> >> >> > well but slightly weakened because of a weak dispositor and Sun >> >> > is >> >> >> > placed in the 8th and aspected by ketu so does that mean that >> >> > there >> >> >> > will be obstructions in spiritual pursuits...? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > How does one interpret this considering that the navamsha is >> >> > looked >> >> >> > at for religious pursuits? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks and regards >> >> >> > PNR >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello dear Mr. Fraser, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Consider the strength of the Sun and Jupiter since there is no >> >> > MT >> >> >> > sign in >> >> >> >> the ninth house. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> " fraser " <fraser@p...> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:59 PM >> >> >> >> spiritual stuff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello All, >> >> >> >> > my interpretetion stops, when I come across this situation- >> >> > could >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > please throw some light. >> >> >> >> > For Taurus Asc.---ninth house for spirituality-is the strength >> >> >> > to be >> >> >> >> > taken in regards to the Lord (Saturn)? >> >> >> >> > and also what if ketu is posited in the 9th house--but saturn >> >> >> > being >> >> >> >> > weak elsewhere-- >> >> >> >> > Is the native spiritual or otherwise ? >> >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> >> >> > Fraser. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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