Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:36 AM Re: Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > > Hello dear DB, > > You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away than the > ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their influence on MEP > of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early miseries > for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming PM. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " devibhakt " <devibhakt > > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM > Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > > >> Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons for >> 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from >> the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The D9 >> lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. >> >> DB >> >> , <siha> wrote: >>> >>> Hello dear DB, >>> >>> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >>> >>> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM >>> Rahul Gandhi's birth details >>> >>> >>> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on >> other >>> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. >>> > >>> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. >>> > >>> > Any idea which one is accurate? >>> > >>> > DB >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on other list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. Any idea which one is accurate? DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hello dear DB, Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. Best wishes, - " devibhakt " <devibhakt Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM Rahul Gandhi's birth details > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on other > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. > > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. > > Any idea which one is accurate? > > DB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons for 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The D9 lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. DB , <siha> wrote: > > Hello dear DB, > > Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM > Rahul Gandhi's birth details > > > > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on other > > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. > > > > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. > > > > Any idea which one is accurate? > > > > DB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hello dear DB, You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away than the ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their influence on MEP of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early miseries for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming PM. Best wishes, - " devibhakt " <devibhakt Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons for > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The D9 > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. > > DB > > , <siha> wrote: >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on > other >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. >> > >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. >> > >> > Any idea which one is accurate? >> > >> > DB >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 In his chart, his 9th lord Saturn is weak due to debilitation, 2nd lord Moon is weak due to debilitation and placement in 6th house. 5th lord Venus is weak due to debilitation in D9 and house lord being weak. From what I read on internet about him, he seemed very popular in the country. And, he had a very privileged upbringing. How is it possible given these weak combinations? What am I missing? 3rd lord Sun is weak aspected by weak Jupiter. He went to college in Sports quota. Ketu aspecting 7th house MEP (although 2 degress apart), weak 2nd lord, and weak Venus and weak 4th lord - delayed marriage or denial of marriage perhaps? Another interesting aspect is Saturn to Mars aspect (although outside 5 deg orbit). Will be curious to know your views. DB , <siha> wrote: > > Hello dear DB, > > You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away than the > ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their influence on MEP > of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early miseries > for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming PM. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM > Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > > > > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons for > > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from > > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The D9 > > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. > > > > DB > > > > , <siha> wrote: > >> > >> Hello dear DB, > >> > >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > >> > >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM > >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details > >> > >> > >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on > > other > >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. > >> > > >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. > >> > > >> > Any idea which one is accurate? > >> > > >> > DB > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hello DB, The Sun is about 80% strong in the ascendant. It is possible that the birth time is rectified to bring Sun in influencing zone of the ascendant. His other weak and badly placed planets show the difficulties faced by the family after his birth. Best wishes, - " devibhakt " <devibhakt Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:07 PM Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > In his chart, his 9th lord Saturn is weak due to debilitation, 2nd > lord Moon is weak due to debilitation and placement in 6th house. > 5th lord Venus is weak due to debilitation in D9 and house lord being > weak. > >>From what I read on internet about him, he seemed very popular in the > country. And, he had a very privileged upbringing. How is it > possible given these weak combinations? What am I missing? > > 3rd lord Sun is weak aspected by weak Jupiter. He went to college in > Sports quota. > > Ketu aspecting 7th house MEP (although 2 degress apart), weak 2nd > lord, and weak Venus and weak 4th lord - delayed marriage or denial > of marriage perhaps? > > Another interesting aspect is Saturn to Mars aspect (although outside > 5 deg orbit). > > Will be curious to know your views. > > DB > > > > , <siha> wrote: >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away than > the >> ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their influence > on MEP >> of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early > miseries >> for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming > PM. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM >> Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons > for >> > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from >> > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The > D9 >> > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. >> > >> > DB >> > >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> >> >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM >> >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> >> >> >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone > on >> > other >> >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. >> >> > >> >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. >> >> > >> >> > Any idea which one is accurate? >> >> > >> >> > DB >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Thanks. One question remains though - the weak planets ought to have given him hard times too (besides his family). As fas as I know, the contrary is true. But then, I am no expert in Indian celebrities. DB , <siha> wrote: > > Hello DB, > > The Sun is about 80% strong in the ascendant. > It is possible that the birth time is rectified to bring Sun in influencing > zone of the ascendant. > > His other weak and badly placed planets show the difficulties faced by the > family after his birth. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:07 PM > Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > > > > In his chart, his 9th lord Saturn is weak due to debilitation, 2nd > > lord Moon is weak due to debilitation and placement in 6th house. > > 5th lord Venus is weak due to debilitation in D9 and house lord being > > weak. > > > >>From what I read on internet about him, he seemed very popular in the > > country. And, he had a very privileged upbringing. How is it > > possible given these weak combinations? What am I missing? > > > > 3rd lord Sun is weak aspected by weak Jupiter. He went to college in > > Sports quota. > > > > Ketu aspecting 7th house MEP (although 2 degress apart), weak 2nd > > lord, and weak Venus and weak 4th lord - delayed marriage or denial > > of marriage perhaps? > > > > Another interesting aspect is Saturn to Mars aspect (although outside > > 5 deg orbit). > > > > Will be curious to know your views. > > > > DB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , <siha> wrote: > >> > >> Hello dear DB, > >> > >> You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away than > > the > >> ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their influence > > on MEP > >> of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early > > miseries > >> for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming > > PM. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > >> > >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM > >> Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > >> > >> > >> > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons > > for > >> > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from > >> > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The > > D9 > >> > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. > >> > > >> > DB > >> > > >> > , <siha> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hello dear DB, > >> >> > >> >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > >> >> > >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM > >> >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone > > on > >> > other > >> >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. > >> >> > > >> >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. > >> >> > > >> >> > Any idea which one is accurate? > >> >> > > >> >> > DB > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hello DB, Of course, the weak planets gave him the hard times, too. He was born in the family of a PM and then there were political reversals, etc. etc. The fine details about such people can never be public. Best wishes, - " devibhakt " <devibhakt Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:30 PM Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > Thanks. One question remains though - the weak planets ought to have > given him hard times too (besides his family). As fas as I know, the > contrary is true. But then, I am no expert in Indian celebrities. > > DB > > , <siha> wrote: >> >> Hello DB, >> >> The Sun is about 80% strong in the ascendant. >> It is possible that the birth time is rectified to bring Sun in > influencing >> zone of the ascendant. >> >> His other weak and badly placed planets show the difficulties faced > by the >> family after his birth. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:07 PM >> Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> > In his chart, his 9th lord Saturn is weak due to debilitation, 2nd >> > lord Moon is weak due to debilitation and placement in 6th house. >> > 5th lord Venus is weak due to debilitation in D9 and house lord > being >> > weak. >> > >> >>From what I read on internet about him, he seemed very popular in > the >> > country. And, he had a very privileged upbringing. How is it >> > possible given these weak combinations? What am I missing? >> > >> > 3rd lord Sun is weak aspected by weak Jupiter. He went to > college in >> > Sports quota. >> > >> > Ketu aspecting 7th house MEP (although 2 degress apart), weak 2nd >> > lord, and weak Venus and weak 4th lord - delayed marriage or > denial >> > of marriage perhaps? >> > >> > Another interesting aspect is Saturn to Mars aspect (although > outside >> > 5 deg orbit). >> > >> > Will be curious to know your views. >> > >> > DB >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> >> >> You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away > than >> > the >> >> ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their > influence >> > on MEP >> >> of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early >> > miseries >> >> for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming >> > PM. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM >> >> Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your > reasons >> > for >> >> > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away > from >> >> > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. > The >> > D9 >> >> > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. >> >> > >> >> > DB >> >> > >> >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> >> >> >> >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the > correct. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM >> >> >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. > Someone >> > on >> >> > other >> >> >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Any idea which one is accurate? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > DB >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Respected ji, I request your kind clarification for my following queries about Mr.Rahul Gandhi's chart. 1) Since his 2nd lord moon is debilitated and badly placed in the 6th house of disputes and various houses are afflicted by nodes in addition to forthcoming main period of weak moon & no strong influence of Sun or any other benefic planet on any profession related houses, will it be safe to predict that he may not attain higher ranks either within AICC or the government. 2) Since he will be running through moon's dasha from next year, considering the fact that moon is a significator for mother and his natal 4th lord mercury is placed in the house of losses, it is likely that his mother sonia gandhi too may not reach higher ranks in congress or govt., or can't administer affairs of the party effectively for a long time. Thanking you Sir Sincerely Krishna , <siha> wrote: > > Hello dear DB, > > You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away than the > ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their influence on MEP > of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early miseries > for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming PM. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM > Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > > > > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons for > > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away from > > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The D9 > > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. > > > > DB > > > > , <siha> wrote: > >> > >> Hello dear DB, > >> > >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> > >> > >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM > >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details > >> > >> > >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone on > > other > >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. > >> > > >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. > >> > > >> > Any idea which one is accurate? > >> > > >> > DB > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Hello dear Krishna, I add my replies in capitals to your message. Best wishes, - " krishnamohan2 " <krishnamohan2 Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:16 PM Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details > Respected ji, > > I request your kind clarification for my following queries about > Mr.Rahul Gandhi's chart. > > 1) Since his 2nd lord moon is debilitated and badly placed in the > 6th house of disputes and various houses are afflicted by nodes in > addition to forthcoming main period of weak moon & no strong > influence of Sun or any other benefic planet on any profession > related houses, will it be safe to predict that he may not attain > higher ranks either within AICC or the government. > THERE ARE MANY FACTORS WHICH GO IN SUCH TYPE OF A PREDICTION. THE POSN OF MOON INVOLVES ONE IN CONTROVERSIES AND CONFLICTS. > 2) Since he will be running through moon's dasha from next year, > considering the fact that moon is a significator for mother and his > natal 4th lord mercury is placed in the house of losses, it is > likely that his mother sonia gandhi too may not reach higher ranks > in congress or govt., or can't administer affairs of the party > effectively for a long time. MS SONIA GANDHI MAY ALSO FACE CHALLENGES. SHE IS AT THE HIGHEST RANK OF THE CONGRESS PARTY & SHE HAS VOLUNTARILY LEFT THE CHANCE OF HEADING THE GOVT. > > Thanking you Sir > Sincerely > Krishna > > , <siha> wrote: >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> You are right. The presence of Rahu/Ketu axis two degrees away > than the >> ascending degree shows some life for father whereas their > influence on MEP >> of the ninth house could have caused comparatively more and early > miseries >> for father. I further checked it from the date of father becoming > PM. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:16 AM >> Re: Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> > Thanks. Just for my learning, can you please share your reasons > for >> > 5:50am time? With this time, Rahu is almost two degrees away > from >> > the MEP, while with 6:02 am, nodes are exactly on the MEPs. The > D9 >> > lagna is Sagitarius versus Capricorn. >> > >> > DB >> > >> > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello dear DB, >> >> >> >> Between the two timings 5.50 AM time appears to be the correct. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " devibhakt " <devibhakt> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM >> >> Rahul Gandhi's birth details >> >> >> >> >> >> > Does anyone have the birth details for Rahul Gandhi. Someone > on >> > other >> >> > list has given as 19th June 1970, New Delhi, 5:50 AM. >> >> > >> >> > There is another time that has been provided - 6:02AM. >> >> > >> >> > Any idea which one is accurate? >> >> > >> >> > DB >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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