Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear Sir, i have also saturn in 2nd position with respect to lagan chart. i am not getting any thing easliy and struggling for getting it. Moreover, i fail to get any thing only at last moment eventhough it is sure. my dob is 19may78 time 10.50. place ghazipur up thank you very much with kind regards raakesh , " aol_gautam " <aol_gautam wrote: >> Dear Shri Priyaji,> My birth details are date 08/05/1972 time 4 hours 31 minutes 25> seconds Place Jamshedpur (Tatanagar), Jharkhand. I came to know that> Saturn in second house delays everything, every event in life and even> denies marriage and I have Saturn in 2nd house of my birthchart. I am> facing all these problems. Even though I have worked very hard through> out my life till now, I haven't achieved any thing substantial. I am> still striving hard for a career. I am not able to decide what to do> in my life. I have almost completed my PhD in Mathematics from IIT> Bombay. I have never consumed alcohol except few times in medicine > prescribed by doctors when I used to suffer from cold and cough. I> have also given up eating nonvegeterian food after I joined Art of> Living course in January 2003. Due to Ketu in 10th house of my > birthchart and moon in 12th house I also have Matri Rin. The only> person with whom I can find love is my mother. I had troubled> childhood. Please help me. I had fallen in love with a girl. But I > had to come out of it because I could understand life will become> very difficult. Her family background is very different from mine.> My parents had fixed my marriage with a girl in 2005. But as soon as> the marriage was fixed may family started facing storm of troubles. My> mother was not able to walk and after some time she had fallen and her> leg was broken and after six months of surgery it again broken. My > father had to look after her by traveling in scooter for 3-4 hours> daily as our home was in remote area. He had also faced accidents> several times and ... so on so forth. > Regards,> Ravi Shankar Gautam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Tarun, Could you answer my query please: Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to people. How can this be explained. Regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Hello Avneesh, your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the harshness. whatever u say turns to truth. you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. you owe a kind of leadership personality. I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u can do best in Land or property dealings. please post to .Srijagganath forum. Regards Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 HI SATURN DOES IN SECOND MAKE PEOPLE RUDE IT MAKES PEOPLE SPEAK HARD WAT THEY FEEL IS RIGHT , THANK U MOHIT > " Michael Travass " <michael.travass >vedic astrology ><vedic astrology > >RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house >Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:41:16 -0000 > >Tarun, > >Could you answer my query please: > >Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to >people. How can this be explained. >Regards, > >Mike > > >vedic astrology >[vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ >Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM >vedic astrology >[vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > >Hello Avneesh, > >your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job >or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. > >your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > >Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice >is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the >harshness. > >whatever u say turns to truth. > >you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > >your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. > >you owe a kind of leadership personality. > >I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. >but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. >you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u >can do best in Land or property dealings. >please post to .Srijagganath forum. > >Regards > >Tarun > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Dear Mike [and Tarun], Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just [Lord Shiva gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and unattached, so he states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken as 'unabashed'. Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never hesitated from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about the outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps it is not all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or necessarily 'rude' but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just this. p. Michael Travass <michael.travass wrote: Tarun, Could you answer my query please: Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to people. How can this be explained. Regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Hello Avneesh, your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the harshness. whatever u say turns to truth. you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. you owe a kind of leadership personality. I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u can do best in Land or property dealings. please post to .Srijagganath forum. Regards Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Pathya, Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be considered. I agree. Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha aspect, only malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? Regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Dear Mike [and Tarun], Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just [Lord Shiva gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and unattached, so he states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken as 'unabashed'. Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never hesitated from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about the outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps it is not all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or necessarily 'rude' but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just this. p. Michael Travass <michael.travass@ <michael.travass%40btinternet.com> btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, Could you answer my query please: Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to people. How can this be explained. Regards, Mike vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Hello Avneesh, your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the harshness. whatever u say turns to truth. you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. you owe a kind of leadership personality. I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u can do best in Land or property dealings. please post to .Srijagganath forum. Regards Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Michael, I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I don't remember by heart MG's chart. patheya Michael Travass <michael.travass wrote: Pathya, Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be considered. I agree. Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha aspect, only malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? Regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Dear Mike [and Tarun], Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just [Lord Shiva gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and unattached, so he states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken as 'unabashed'. Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never hesitated from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about the outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps it is not all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or necessarily 'rude' but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just this. p. Michael Travass btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, Could you answer my query please: Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to people. How can this be explained. Regards, Mike vedic astrology@ [vedic astrology@ ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM vedic astrology@ [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Hello Avneesh, your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the harshness. whatever u say turns to truth. you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. you owe a kind of leadership personality. I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u can do best in Land or property dealings. please post to .Srijagganath forum. Regards Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hello Michael, sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from thsi forum. abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. second point that if there is venus or moon with it. Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never ever like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general people. Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart with u is wrong. Regards Tarun vedic astrology , Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal wrote: > > Michael, > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > patheya > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass wrote: Pathya, > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be considered. I > agree. > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha aspect, only > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just [Lord Shiva > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and unattached, so he > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken as 'unabashed'. > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never hesitated > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about the > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps it is not > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or necessarily 'rude' > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just this. > > p. > > Michael Travass > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > Could you answer my query please: > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to > people. How can this be explained. > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology@ > > [vedic astrology@ > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > vedic astrology@ > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > Hello Avneesh, > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the > harshness. > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u > can do best in Land or property dealings. > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > Regards > > Tarun > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hello Patheya, you are very true abt explaining the saturn's results in 2nd house and relate to voice. Actually when a person is speaking truth and when people oppose him he cannt bear whatever he is seeing and loses control on his voice. Regards Tarun vedic astrology , Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal wrote: > > Michael, > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > patheya > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass wrote: Pathya, > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be considered. I > agree. > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha aspect, only > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just [Lord Shiva > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and unattached, so he > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken as 'unabashed'. > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never hesitated > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about the > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps it is not > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or necessarily 'rude' > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just this. > > p. > > Michael Travass > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > Could you answer my query please: > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to > people. How can this be explained. > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology@ > > [vedic astrology@ > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > vedic astrology@ > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > Hello Avneesh, > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the > harshness. > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u > can do best in Land or property dealings. > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > Regards > > Tarun > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Dear Mike, Often Saturn;s effect on 2nd house is taken as making the person a liar. It is not so. The effect of saturn on 2nd house effects the communication badly. The person often says strait jacket things, correct in all ways but may not be appropriate. The effect of mars on 3rd house along with this can make the person lose in arguments. Hope this helps, Kishore patnaik On 3/9/07, Michael Travass <michael.travass wrote: > > Tarun, > > Could you answer my query please: > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude > to > people. How can this be explained. > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>] > On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > Hello Avneesh, > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right > job > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the > harshness. > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of > body. > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u > can do best in Land or property dealings. > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > Regards > > Tarun > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi Tarun, I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person speak the truth which could makes others uncomfortable. But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several other examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of rudeness. Anyway thanks for your feedback. Regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house Hello Michael, sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from thsi forum. abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. second point that if there is venus or moon with it. Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never ever like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general people. Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart with u is wrong. Regards Tarun vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> , Patheya Goyal <patheyagoyal wrote: > > Michael, > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > patheya > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass wrote: Pathya, > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be considered. I > agree. > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha aspect, only > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just [Lord Shiva > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and unattached, so he > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken as 'unabashed'. > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never hesitated > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about the > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps it is not > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or necessarily 'rude' > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just this. > > p. > > Michael Travass > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > Could you answer my query please: > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not sound rude to > people. How can this be explained. > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology@ > > [vedic astrology@ > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > vedic astrology@ > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > Hello Avneesh, > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get right job > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in that. > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , ur voice > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point out the > harshness. > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative job. > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind of body. > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and even u > can do best in Land or property dealings. > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > Regards > > Tarun > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hello Mike. this is the same rule that lion attacks only when he is teased otherwise he is enough calm. So just tease one saturn in 2nd house or make him get angry and then see the impact. ha ha...i had seen this because i have saturn in 2nd house. many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode than the thing gets true. its like black tongue in hindi. Regards Tarun vedic astrology , " Michael Travass " <michael.travass wrote: > > Hi Tarun, > > I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person speak the > truth which could makes others uncomfortable. > > But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several other > examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of rudeness. > > Anyway thanks for your feedback. > > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun > Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Hello Michael, > > sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from > thsi forum. > > abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. > second point that if there is venus or moon with it. > Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never ever > like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general > people. > > Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. > > Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. > > if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. > and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart > with u is wrong. > > Regards > > Tarun > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , Patheya Goyal > <patheyagoyal@> wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and > there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika > swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I > don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > > > patheya > > > > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass@> wrote: Pathya, > > > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be > considered. I > > agree. > > > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha > aspect, only > > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just > [Lord Shiva > > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and > unattached, so he > > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken > as 'unabashed'. > > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never > hesitated > > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about > the > > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps > it is not > > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or > necessarily 'rude' > > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just > this. > > > > p. > > > > Michael Travass > > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > > > Could you answer my query please: > > > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not > sound rude to > > people. How can this be explained. > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > [vedic astrology@ > > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > > vedic astrology@ > > > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Hello Avneesh, > > > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get > right job > > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in > that. > > > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , > ur voice > > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point > out the > > harshness. > > > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative > job. > > > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind > of body. > > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and > even u > > can do best in Land or property dealings. > > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hello Mike. this is the same rule that lion attacks only when he is teased otherwise he is enough calm. So just tease one saturn in 2nd house or make him get angry and then see the impact. ha ha...i had seen this because i have saturn in 2nd house. many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode than the thing gets true. its like black tongue in hindi. Regards Tarun vedic astrology , " Michael Travass " <michael.travass wrote: > > Hi Tarun, > > I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person speak the > truth which could makes others uncomfortable. > > But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several other > examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of rudeness. > > Anyway thanks for your feedback. > > Regards, > > Mike > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun > Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Hello Michael, > > sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from > thsi forum. > > abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. > second point that if there is venus or moon with it. > Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never ever > like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general > people. > > Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. > > Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. > > if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. > and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart > with u is wrong. > > Regards > > Tarun > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > , Patheya Goyal > <patheyagoyal@> wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and > there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika > swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I > don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > > > patheya > > > > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass@> wrote: Pathya, > > > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be > considered. I > > agree. > > > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha > aspect, only > > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% 40> > ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just > [Lord Shiva > > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and > unattached, so he > > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken > as 'unabashed'. > > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never > hesitated > > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother about > the > > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, perhaps > it is not > > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or > necessarily 'rude' > > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than just > this. > > > > p. > > > > Michael Travass > > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > > > Could you answer my query please: > > > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not > sound rude to > > people. How can this be explained. > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > [vedic astrology@ > > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > > vedic astrology@ > > > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > Hello Avneesh, > > > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont get > right job > > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in > that. > > > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other people , > ur voice > > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point > out the > > harshness. > > > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high authorative > job. > > > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt kind > of body. > > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht and > even u > > can do best in Land or property dealings. > > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 vedic astrology , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant > control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. > but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode > than the thing gets true. Sorry to butt in, but I have the exact same problem. I am normally calm but when I get angry, all hell breaks loose. I've even punched a teacher once! And whenever provoked, I get violent enough to give the person concerned some good old thumping. I am also quite argumentative. But my saturn is in 6th house Leo (being 11th and 12th Lord), whereas Sun is in saturn's house, 11th house capricorn. Also, there's aspect between (debilitated) mars and sun, being in 5th and 11th houses respectively. Is this then the reason for my volatile behavior? Learned members might want to throw some light on this. I am particularly confused about mars, because mars is supposed to be the war planet, very aggressive, and if it's debilitated, the native has to be timid. At least, that was my assumption. But why is a debilitated mars making me extremely aggressive? Isn't it contradictory? Regards, Suresh (15/1/78, chennai, 10.20am) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna Namaste Lalit ji, I know classics say that malefics bode well in upachayas like 3rd house..however, in my experience sani in 3rd for gemini lagna ppl delays their bhagya....would appreciate any further thoughts.. Namaste yobrevol In a message dated 3/11/2007 11:16:56 A.M. India Standard Time, lalit3107 writes: For Gemini asc it is bad in 2 . But good in 3. July onwards good time. lalit [kp astro] For vedic astrology , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Hello Mike. > > this is the same rule that lion attacks only when he is teased > otherwise he is enough calm. > > So just tease one saturn in 2nd house or make him get angry and then > see the impact. > > ha ha...i had seen this because i have saturn in 2nd house. > > many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant > control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. > but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode > than the thing gets true. > > its like black tongue in hindi. > > Regards > > Tarun > > vedic astrology , " Michael Travass " > <michael.travass@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person > speak the > > truth which could makes others uncomfortable. > > > > But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several > other > > examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of > rudeness. > > > > Anyway thanks for your feedback. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from > > thsi forum. > > > > abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. > > second point that if there is venus or moon with it. > > Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never > ever > > like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general > > people. > > > > Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. > > > > Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. > > > > if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. > > and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart > > with u is wrong. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , Patheya Goyal > > <patheyagoyal@> wrote: > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and > > there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika > > swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I > > don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > > > > > patheya > > > > > > > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass@> wrote: Pathya, > > > > > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be > > considered. I > > > agree. > > > > > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha > > aspect, only > > > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% > 40> > > ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > > > > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > > > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just > > [Lord Shiva > > > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and > > unattached, so he > > > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken > > as 'unabashed'. > > > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never > > hesitated > > > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother > about > > the > > > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, > perhaps > > it is not > > > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or > > necessarily 'rude' > > > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than > just > > this. > > > > > > p. > > > > > > Michael Travass > > > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > > > > > Could you answer my query please: > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not > > sound rude to > > > people. How can this be explained. > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology@ > > > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > Hello Avneesh, > > > > > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont > get > > right job > > > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in > > that. > > > > > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > > > > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other > people , > > ur voice > > > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point > > out the > > > harshness. > > > > > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > > > > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > > > > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high > authorative > > job. > > > > > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > > > > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > > > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt > kind > > of body. > > > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht > and > > even u > > > can do best in Land or property dealings. > > > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Archives: http://www.. > > > comvedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: http://www.. > > > > > > comvedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 For Gemini asc it is bad in 2 . But good in 3. July onwards good time. lalit [kp astro] For vedic astrology , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Hello Mike. > > this is the same rule that lion attacks only when he is teased > otherwise he is enough calm. > > So just tease one saturn in 2nd house or make him get angry and then > see the impact. > > ha ha...i had seen this because i have saturn in 2nd house. > > many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant > control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. > but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode > than the thing gets true. > > its like black tongue in hindi. > > Regards > > Tarun > > vedic astrology , " Michael Travass " > <michael.travass@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person > speak the > > truth which could makes others uncomfortable. > > > > But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several > other > > examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of > rudeness. > > > > Anyway thanks for your feedback. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from > > thsi forum. > > > > abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. > > second point that if there is venus or moon with it. > > Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never > ever > > like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general > > people. > > > > Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. > > > > Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. > > > > if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. > > and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart > > with u is wrong. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , Patheya Goyal > > <patheyagoyal@> wrote: > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and > > there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika > > swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I > > don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > > > > > patheya > > > > > > > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass@> wrote: Pathya, > > > > > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be > > considered. I > > > agree. > > > > > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha > > aspect, only > > > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% > 40> > > ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > > > > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > > > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just > > [Lord Shiva > > > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and > > unattached, so he > > > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken > > as 'unabashed'. > > > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never > > hesitated > > > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother > about > > the > > > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, > perhaps > > it is not > > > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or > > necessarily 'rude' > > > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than > just > > this. > > > > > > p. > > > > > > Michael Travass > > > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > > > > > Could you answer my query please: > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not > > sound rude to > > > people. How can this be explained. > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology@ > > > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > Hello Avneesh, > > > > > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont > get > > right job > > > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in > > that. > > > > > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > > > > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other > people , > > ur voice > > > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point > > out the > > > harshness. > > > > > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > > > > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > > > > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high > authorative > > job. > > > > > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > > > > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > > > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt > kind > > of body. > > > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht > and > > even u > > > can do best in Land or property dealings. > > > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Dear lalit very true but don't you think so you are missing something. More over it depends on the star lord of Saturn. where it is and give result of which house and sub lord dignified more. Prem Chopra www.freewebs.com/pramchopra42 LALIT KHUNGAR <lalit3107 wrote: For Gemini asc it is bad in 2 . But good in 3. July onwards good time. lalit [kp astro] For vedic astrology , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Hello Mike. > > this is the same rule that lion attacks only when he is teased > otherwise he is enough calm. > > So just tease one saturn in 2nd house or make him get angry and then > see the impact. > > ha ha...i had seen this because i have saturn in 2nd house. > > many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant > control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. > but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode > than the thing gets true. > > its like black tongue in hindi. > > Regards > > Tarun > > vedic astrology , " Michael Travass " > <michael.travass@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person > speak the > > truth which could makes others uncomfortable. > > > > But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several > other > > examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of > rudeness. > > > > Anyway thanks for your feedback. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from > > thsi forum. > > > > abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. > > second point that if there is venus or moon with it. > > Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never > ever > > like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general > > people. > > > > Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. > > > > Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. > > > > if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. > > and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart > > with u is wrong. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , Patheya Goyal > > <patheyagoyal@> wrote: > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and > > there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika > > swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I > > don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > > > > > patheya > > > > > > > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass@> wrote: Pathya, > > > > > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be > > considered. I > > > agree. > > > > > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha > > aspect, only > > > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% > 40> > > ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > > > > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > > > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just > > [Lord Shiva > > > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and > > unattached, so he > > > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken > > as 'unabashed'. > > > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never > > hesitated > > > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother > about > > the > > > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, > perhaps > > it is not > > > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or > > necessarily 'rude' > > > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than > just > > this. > > > > > > p. > > > > > > Michael Travass > > > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > > > > > Could you answer my query please: > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not > > sound rude to > > > people. How can this be explained. > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology@ > > > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > Hello Avneesh, > > > > > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont > get > > right job > > > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in > > that. > > > > > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > > > > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other > people , > > ur voice > > > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point > > out the > > > harshness. > > > > > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > > > > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > > > > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high > authorative > > job. > > > > > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > > > > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > > > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt > kind > > of body. > > > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht > and > > even u > > > can do best in Land or property dealings. > > > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 But 2nd is dhan bhav and you want money from 3rd. bhaya is 7th aspect yobrevol wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Namaste Lalit ji, I know classics say that malefics bode well in upachayas like 3rd house..however, in my experience sani in 3rd for gemini lagna ppl delays their bhagya....would appreciate any further thoughts.. Namaste yobrevol In a message dated 3/11/2007 11:16:56 A.M. India Standard Time, lalit3107 writes: For Gemini asc it is bad in 2 . But good in 3. July onwards good time. lalit [kp astro] For vedic astrology , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Hello Mike. > > this is the same rule that lion attacks only when he is teased > otherwise he is enough calm. > > So just tease one saturn in 2nd house or make him get angry and then > see the impact. > > ha ha...i had seen this because i have saturn in 2nd house. > > many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i cant > control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m saying. > but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry mode > than the thing gets true. > > its like black tongue in hindi. > > Regards > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Michael Travass " > <michael.travass@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > I agree that Saturn influence on the 2nd house makes a person > speak the > > truth which could makes others uncomfortable. > > > > But that not necessarily mean the person is rude. I have several > other > > examples with Saturn influence on the 2nd and there is no hint of > rudeness. > > > > Anyway thanks for your feedback. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Tarun > > Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:06 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > sorry for replying late as i had d for daily digest from > > thsi forum. > > > > abt saturn being rude in speech, because i have it. > > second point that if there is venus or moon with it. > > Thir point saturn gives strictness in voice i.e. he will never > ever > > like false things or will oppose things which are bad for general > > people. > > > > Now i can say that how much you know abt gandhi ji. > > > > Whatever we know is from the literature or movies thats it. > > > > if you personally know him than only you can justify abt him. > > and even if u think that he was not rude than i can say his chart > > with u is wrong. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > , Patheya Goyal > > <patheyagoyal@> wrote: > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > I am not an expert in the field, but one instance could be, and > > there are several such possibilities, a bhadra yoga - a naisargika > > swagrahi benefic in kendra; and then one could also see aspects. I > > don't remember by heart MG's chart. > > > > > > patheya > > > > > > > > > Michael Travass <michael.travass@> wrote: Pathya, > > > > > > Precisely there are other over riding factors which are to be > > considered. I > > > agree. > > > > > > Question is what are these factors. There is no benefic graha > > aspect, only > > > malefic Ra aspect in MG's case. Do we consider rashi rishti? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > [vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology% > 40> > > ] On Behalf Of Patheya Goyal > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 PM > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mike [and Tarun], > > > > > > Probably one possible explanation could be in a less notoriously > > > stereotypical 'image' of Shani, where Shani is righteous, just > > [Lord Shiva > > > gave entrusted him with carrying that out - I gather] and > > unattached, so he > > > states things with a nirvikar bhav, and that could be taken > > as 'unabashed'. > > > Second house is the house of speech, we know. And Gandhi never > > hesitated > > > from confronting the truth with integrity; he did not bother > about > > the > > > outcome, esp. in so far it put him on the firing line. So, > perhaps > > it is not > > > all right to say that Shani in 2nd makes a person only or > > necessarily 'rude' > > > but then one has to take into account a lot more factors than > just > > this. > > > > > > p. > > > > > > Michael Travass > > > btinternet.com> wrote: Tarun, > > > > > > Could you answer my query please: > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhi's chart has Saturn in second house. He did not > > sound rude to > > > people. How can this be explained. > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology@ > > > ] On Behalf Of ~Tarun~ > > > Friday, March 09, 2007 12:02 PM > > > vedic astrology@ > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re:Saturn in 2nd house > > > > > > Hello Avneesh, > > > > > > your chart sounds very interesting, as u r saying that u dont > get > > right job > > > or sometihng like that. But i dont think saturn is a problem in > > that. > > > > > > your moon has damaged ur saturn. so u r very very sentimental. > > > > > > Saturn is in ur 2nd house , you sound very rude to other > people , > > ur voice > > > is very harsh and all dont see ur positive things but just point > > out the > > > harshness. > > > > > > whatever u say turns to truth. > > > > > > you are currently running in Mars Dasha and that is exalted. > > > > > > your sun is in 10th house that promise some govt high > authorative > > job. > > > > > > you owe a kind of leadership personality. > > > > > > I dont think any kind of problem in ur chart brother. > > > but i think you can do best in some govt related or semi govt > kind > > of body. > > > you should have big properties as saturn in 2nd relates to tht > and > > even u > > > can do best in Land or property dealings. > > > please post to .Srijagganath forum. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Archives: http://www.. > > > comvedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: http://www.. > > > > > > comvedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Dear Mr. Prashant Kumar, Thank you for your kind words. As you have suggested that I should ask a specific question, I would like to understand my career progression and prospects for the next twelve months. Do you foresee a job/location change? Many thanks in advance (i am enclosing my particulars once again, Dob 12 March 1969, Pob: Karol Bagh, New Delhi, Tob: 12:33 pm Once again, many thanks in advance, Sincerely Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Suesh, Though your Mars is debilitated, please note that he is retrograde as well. In this state, it will behave more like an exalted planet. Also, Mars is well aspected by another fiery planet and friend Ravi. Regards, Krishna --- suresh1511978 <suresh1511978 wrote: > vedic astrology , " Tarun " > <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > > many says i am very very cool but when i lose my temper i > cant > > control my voice , and words...even i dont know whati m > saying. > > but one more thing that if saturn in 2nd house says in angry > mode > > than the thing gets true. > > Sorry to butt in, but I have the exact same problem. I am > normally > calm but when I get angry, all hell breaks loose. I've even > punched a > teacher once! And whenever provoked, I get violent enough to > give the > person concerned some good old thumping. I am also quite > argumentative. > > But my saturn is in 6th house Leo (being 11th and 12th Lord), > whereas > Sun is in saturn's house, 11th house capricorn. Also, there's > aspect > between (debilitated) mars and sun, being in 5th and 11th > houses > respectively. Is this then the reason for my volatile > behavior? > Learned members might want to throw some light on this. > > I am particularly confused about mars, because mars is > supposed to be > the war planet, very aggressive, and if it's debilitated, the > native > has to be timid. At least, that was my assumption. But why is > a > debilitated mars making me extremely aggressive? Isn't it > contradictory? > > Regards, > Suresh (15/1/78, chennai, 10.20am) > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Hai as this i came to know under this discussion Saturn in second house. As per my thinking malefic special saturn at vani place( 2nd house) makes a person false speaker and mauplative wordings. ppl can speak the words very sweet either having wrong thinkings and emotions in his/her mind.He can attract any person whom he wants to attract with speech to make her/his work. My brother has saturn in 2nd house as well as my two daughters. I have saturn placed in 3rd house .. thanxs Richa vedic astrology , " Shankar Athreya " <shankarath wrote: > > Dear Mr. Prashant Kumar, > > Thank you for your kind words. As you have suggested that I should ask a > specific question, I would like to understand my career progression and > prospects for the next twelve months. Do you foresee a job/location change? > > Many thanks in advance (i am enclosing my particulars once again, Dob 12 > March 1969, Pob: Karol Bagh, New Delhi, Tob: 12:33 pm > > Once again, many thanks in advance, > > Sincerely > > Shankar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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