Guest guest Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Dear Bhatia ji, Bhav spashtha is a mathematical technique and like all mathematic techniques is not system specific. It can be used in any system of astrology. You would be aware that astrology has a very well developed mathematics , if some people don't know it , I can't help. I use it because I am familiar with it. A Lagna lasts for two hours {approx}and every body born during those two hours , running into thousands , will have the same planetary positions . But they do not have the same identical lives. The rishis had realized this phenomena and evolved a mathematical technique known as bhav-spashtha. As the name suggests it demarcates the boundaries of a bhav . A planet , while being in the same rasi , could move to another bhav . What you have talked is the transit of planets from one rasi to another. Bhav spashtha is entirely a different thing. If you had used the technique , you would know. Your taking a `strong exception' to my using a mathematical technique sounded like some one saying ` why do you use a computer for computation and not an abacus?' I can't help if other Lal Kitabists either don't know these techniques or don't use them. Using a mathematical technique to know the boundaries of a bhav , is not mixing the systems. I use bhav spashtha technique to ascertain the boundaries of a bhav for every horoscope I analyze. I do not mix the two systems. I analyze the planets based on the principles of Lal Kitab and devise the upaya for them again based on Lal kitab. As I have said many times before , I use the concepts of traditional astrology for confirmation and refinement . It is all the better if the major points of analysis are confirmed through other systems also . The possibility of the error of the judgment is minimized if not eliminated altogether. Sincerely, Priya lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > Respected BhooshanPriya Jee, > > I take a strong exception to the Bhav-Spashta techniques applied by you to Ms. Ankur's horoscope as well as the one submitted by Dheendayalan Jee. I am somewhat familiar with Vedic astrology and do understand many of these techniques, though not in fine details. > > Birth details provided by Ashok Jee are as follows: > > > Her Birth Details are Ms. Ankur > > DOB: Aug 27,1981 > > TOB: 7:17AM IST > > POB: Patiala Longitude: 76E24 Latitude: 30N19 > > This gives me the following horoscope: > > > +--------------+ > | \ Ve Sa / \ Ma Ra / | > | \ Ju / \ Mo / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Su \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x As x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ Me / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 5 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | GL x | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Ke \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > > > Please keep in mind the following facts: > > 1. The ascendant does not change for another 17 minutes and 02 seconds. > > 2.Mercury does not change signs for approximately three days. > > 3. Sun will stay in Leo for almost 20 more days at this particular point in time. > > 4. Moon came into Cancer 14 hours 47 minutes earlier and will stay there for another 1 day and 14 hours (approximately). > > 5. Mars came into Cancer 4 days earlier and will stay there for another 44 days. > > 6. Rahu will stay in Cancer for another 119 days and has been there for the last 447 days. > > These numbers, for a LalKitab based kunDali, present absolutely no need to warrant a move to the next sign/house. Had the Lagna been such that it were going to change in five to six minutes, then one would have been justified to attempt moving the planets over (but would verify the effects before doing so and only upon confirmation would solidify such a move) or, if a planet were to transit the same hour (as of birth) , the shift could be justified. I have seen it done and have done it many times but NOT before LalKitab based verification. My utmost respect to the MahaRishees who formulated classical Indian astrology but we are dealing with LalKitab here in the cotext of this forum - we are using LalKitab for interperetation and nivaran and it is WRONG, DANGEROUS AND MISLEADING TO MIX AND MATCH THE TWO SYSTEMS. I've made similar mistakes in the past and have caused harm for which I regret to this day. > > I humbly request you to please not adulterate LalKitab kundali unnecessarily. Let us minimize the possibilities of causing harm though your intentions are extremely honest - (no two ways about your intentions - you are working very hard, very honestly and are extremely knowledgeable. > > Respectfully, > > Rajinder Bhatia. > > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > Dear Ashok ji, > > The lagna of your daughter is at 26d :17m in simha , With this lagna > after Bhav-spashth the Sun from the 1st has moved to the 12th , the > three planets moon , mars and rahu have moved to the 11th and ketu > from the 6th has moved to the 5th. > > I have worked out the 25th year varsh phal based on the planets after > the bhav-spashtha. > > Here are the upaya for the 25th year starting August 27 , 2005. These > upaya should be done after August 27th only. > > Upaya : > > [ 1 ] Offer at any temple a little chanaa daal at any temple for six > days regularly. > [ 2 ] Keep at home a little rain water with four small square pieces > of silver immersed in it. As and when the water dries up , replenish > it with rain water again. > [ 3 ] Keep with her a small solid silver toy elephant. > [ 4 ] Bury deep under water a little mustard oil kept in an earthen > pot. Cement the earthen lid so that the oil doesn't spill out into > the water. The pot should be buried at a place where it always stays > under water. > > Dos : > > [ a ] Give a pair of clothes to a pujari of any temple > [ b ] Take a little honey early in the morning. > [ c ] Should sleep with a little saunf under her pillow. The saunf > should be kept in a dull red square thaili of cloth. > [ d ] Make sure that none of her leather items are either lost or > stolen. > > > Don'ts : > > [ a ] Should not keep old brass utensils either empty or turned > upside down. > [ b ] Should not have any blunt knife etc at home. > [ c ] Should not eat eggs. > [ d ] Should not buy any thing of leather for the whole year. > [ e ] Should not make any smoke around where she lives. > [ f ] should not keep locks , that which she is not using , locked. > > Sincerely, > > Priya > > lalkitab , " ashok_thapar " <ashok_thapar> > wrote: > > Dear Ms. Bhooshanpriya, > > > > Please refer to the message no. 1675 dated Apr 28, 2004 vide which > > Er. Upadhyay had recommended remedies for my daughter in view of > her > > Varshphal for the year 23rd (2003-04). > > > > 1. Since now she is running her 24th year and she has asked me the > > following: > > What should she do with the haldi ganth and small solid silver toy > > elephant? > > > > 2. Can you suggest her some upaya for her current running year > > 24th year? She is having Sun in 6th and Rahu in Lagna in her > current > > Varshphal. > > > > In her 25th year starting from 27 Aug 2005 she will be having > > Ju,Ven. and Sat. in 6th Rahu in 9th and Ketu in 8th. > > > > Her Birth Details are Ms. Ankur > > DOB: Aug 27,1981 > > TOB: 7:17AM IST > > POB: Patiala Longitude: 76E24 Latitude: 30N19 > > > > Thanks > > > > Ashok Thapar > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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