Bains Jee - Rationale of Upaya for Sun + Rahu in one house

May 27, 2005

Kulbir Jee,

Where have you been all these months? Thanks for expressing your viewpoint on the burnt coin upaya. When I had submitted my explanation, I had mentioned very clearly that this was just my "educated" guess and could very well be wrong. So there is no correct explanation and your guess may be as good or as bad as mine/Bhooshan Jee/ Nehata Jee/Lalkitabee Jee etc etc. We may all present our reasoning - simple or complicated, but the real reason is known only to Pt Roop Chand Jee. Astrology is not an exact science where two plus two does not necessarily make four.

Incidentally, who is Pt Sumat Prashad and can you tell us more about him?

Hope to see you more involved in discussions on this forum.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

ceeta bains <ceetabains wrote:

Respected Bhatia ji,

I think that pt. Sumat prashad has explained the logic as follows;-

Whenever the Sun is eclipsed by Rahu, the Copper coin of Sun is burnt/baked in the fire of Mars and thereafter flown in the water. In this way support of Mars and Moon is given to Sun when it is in a weak position(ast) (at night fall)because RAHU the elephant IS AFRAID OF BOTH MARS/MAHAWAT AND WATER.

kulbirRajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

Jai Jee,

We are both guessing and you could be on the right path. I thought along the following lines:

1. Rahu and Sun are mutual enmies.

2. This upaya is done at night time (Saturn's domain, Sun is "asta" ) and Saturn and Sun are mutual enemies.

3. Fire, per LalKitab 1941 page 314 line 4, is represented by Rahu.

(I must express my sincerest thanks to Shri Yog Raj Prabhakar for his kindness that I am able to quote this text.)

4. Copper represents Sun.

5. Sun is being "destroyed" (nashTa kar dena) while he is "asta " therefore, "nirbal " through fire (Rahu) in the presence of his enemy Saturn (night time - dark.) This logic is somewhat similar to the one when Moon is "destroyed" by burning milk.

6. Even if my guesswork is correct, I still wouldn't venture to formulate my own upayas - who knows if I am totally on the wrong path as most of the upayas are unknown mysteries, almost never explained by Pt. Roop Chand Jee.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

Jai Nahata <jaynahata wrote:

Dear Rajinder ji,

Here in I would like to place a logical guess work behind copper coin burning remedy. I believe by this Sun is being powered by Mars(Fire) and finally any excessive heat is being flown into water and also giving it neccessary support of Moon.

This is just a probability that stroke me and it stand fully to be incorrect. Kindly correct me where wrong for which I shall remain thankful.

Best regards

Jai

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