Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Dear Nahata Ji would you be kind enough to answer this mail. all details are below in my correspondence with Priya Ji Rgds Anjali lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > Dear Anjali, > > I am not very good at predicting future , I think Nahata ji would be > the best person to suggest a date and time. > > sincerely, > > Priya > > > > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " <anjaliraj1> wrote: > > Dear Priya > > > > It feels good that you can feel my dilemma. i wish it were easier > to > > decide. > > > > is there at all a 'good enough' date and time bet last wk of june > and > > first wk july for my baby to be born? someone told me june 25th > > between 9:03PM - 9:12PM, New Delhi is a good day. > > > > Thanks again for your thoughtful insights. your knowledge is > > tremendous. > > > > Regards > > Anjali > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > <bhooshanpriya> > > wrote: > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > You have put me into a dilemma . Ethics , destiny , God's will on > > the > > > one hand and the mother instinct on the other. I am torn between > > the > > > two. I thought over your question the whole night yesterday > > otherwise > > > you know I am very prompt in replying. What would I have done if > I > > > were in the shoes of Anjali , an expectant mother ? I needed to > > know > > > an honest reply , a reply that appeals to me. > > > > > > At the end, I came to the conclusion that if I could , I would > give > > > my child the best start possible. And if deciding the time of > > birth > > > gives an advantage to my child , I would. To me it is not a > matter > > > of academic discussion , it is an emotional matter that is > between > > me > > > and my child. > > > > > > It was only after the dilemma was solved , I felt so > relieved . > > > Now I leave it to you Anjali . You are the mother to be. It is > > > between you and your child. > > > > > > > > > With love, > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Anjali ji, > > > > First of all, May GOD bless you and your child, always. > > > > Secondly, no matter what we can never be greater than almighty. > > He > > > is the > > > > best judge of our deeds. Moreover if it would have been > possible > > > than Shri > > > > Ramji taken birth on best time. Could he ? We all see best > bride > > > and grooms > > > > for our children but we all know that couples are made in > heaven > > > and they > > > > are left here to join hands. > > > > So my sincere advice to you would be to have full faith in > > almighty > > > GOD and > > > > pray for the best to happen to your child. > > > > And this what we all will do. > > > > May GOD bless you and child. > > > > Best regards > > > > Jai > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Priya > > > > > > > > > > I am expecting my second child. He/she is due on 5th July. > > Since > > > my > > > > > first was a c-section, this one may be too. I had put up a > > > question > > > > > once earlier whether it is ethical/moral/good to pre-plan the > > > > > date/time of my childs birth. i myself believe it should be > > left > > > to > > > > > God. > > > > > > > > > > There is an astrologer though who has taken out the date of > > 25th > > > June > > > > > 9:03 PM to 9:12 PM, New Delhi, as the best time for this > birth. > > > Any > > > > > suggestions from anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best rgds > > > > > Anjali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand your concern , it is not advisable at this > > age > > > to > > > > > > study the horoscope for other things , other then 'Bal- > > > arishtha'. I > > > > > > have done that already. Bal-arishth is illness or any > untoward > > > > > > happening which might threaten the life of a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > I share your concern as a mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > with Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " > > <anjaliraj1> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Priya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you analyse my sons horoscope in totality then > please. > > > > > > > His DOB is 08.08.2000. Time : 02.32PM, New Delhi. > > > > > > > Could you also pls emphasise what impact 'arishta' has on > a > > > > > persons > > > > > > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Rgds > > > > > > > Anjali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya > > > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Irrespective of what has been said here in the Group , > > your > > > > > > > astrologer is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Yes, the child has > `arishta' > > > > > > arising > > > > > > > out of the sun + rahu combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In astrology a child's horoscope should not be studied > for > > > > > many > > > > > > > matters; but there is one area where it is not only > > > > > recommended , > > > > > > it > > > > > > > is mandatory to study the horoscope of a child for > > `arishta'. > > > > > > Arishta > > > > > > > means , illness and any other unfortunate happening. An > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > must cast the horoscope and study it for `arishta' and > > > > > > > suggest `samaadhaan' or upaya. If that were not the case , > > > > > instead > > > > > > of > > > > > > > casting a horoscope at the time of birth people would > just > > > note > > > > > the > > > > > > > time and the date and get it cast only after the child is > > 12 > > > or > > > > > 13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now explaining why your astrologer is right. I am > quoting > > > > > > original > > > > > > > excerpts from Lal Kitab { 1952 ed} along with page > numbers > > > from > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > Sanhita for every one to verify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Rahu is placed in the 9th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {a } " rahu khana 9 , 12 mein neech kaha gaya hai " p223 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > { b } " rahu ab 9guni mandi takat ka malik hoga jo > > Chandra > > > ko > > > > > bhi > > > > > > > madhyam kar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dega " p235 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun + Rahu : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] " garhan ka manda samay us samay jor par hoga jab > > dono > > > > > > > kundali ke 9 ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 mein baithe hon " p288 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination is most vicious when either in the 9th > > or > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 12th . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] " grahan ravi ki kismet hoti , varna umra chhoti > > marta > > > > > ho " > > > > > > p > > > > > > > 287 . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either his kismet will be eclipsed or he will die > > young. " > > > 45 > > > > > > saal > > > > > > > tak umra shaqqi " the fear for life will be up to the age > of > > > 45 , > > > > > > > after that there will be no danger for life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] " chahe surya ko grahan lagata ho, magar garmee > se > > aur > > > > > bhi > > > > > > > adhik hani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > karne wala hilta hua hathi hoga " p 224 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even though the rahu eclipses the sun but it becomes a > > > violent > > > > > > > elephant capable of greater damage under the heat of the > > sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] " surya ki drishti ya sath se rahu ka prabhav na > > sirf > > > > > > baithe > > > > > > > hue ghar par > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manda hoga balki saath lagata ghar bhi barbad hoga " p > 224 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination would not only damage the house it is > > in , > > > > > would > > > > > > > also damage the adjacent house. This means both the 9th > > house > > > > > > > of `bhagya' and the 10th house of ` profession, > > yash ,father' > > > > > would > > > > > > > be damaged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] " surya ,rahu ke samay yadi shukra aur budh saath > > ho > > > to > > > > > > surya > > > > > > > graham ka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asar bura nahi hoga " p287 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a `parihar' clause . `parihar' means escape > from > > the > > > > > > > results . This combination of the sun and the rahu will be > > > > > > > ineffective if the venus and mercury are together in the > > > kundali. > > > > > > > Venus and mercury together form masnui SUN . That means > if > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > > another masnui {artificial} sun in the kundali , the > natal > > sun > > > > > will > > > > > > > get strengthened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid , there is no masnui sun in the kundali and > > > hence > > > > > no > > > > > > > escape from the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] " agar mangal kisi tarah se bhi rahu ko dabata na > > ho > > > ya > > > > > > khud > > > > > > > hi mangal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manda ho …. to uttam sehat aur lambi ayu dono shaqqi > > hongi " > > > p > > > > > 288 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is another `parihar' clause. If the mars is not > > ashubh > > > and > > > > > > > controls the rahu , the combination would not effect; on > the > > > > > > contrary > > > > > > > if the mangal itself is ashubh and incapable of > controlling > > > the > > > > > > > rahu , then both the health and longevity will be > doubtful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the matter to be resolved is whether mangal is > shubh > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > kundali or ashubh. In the kundali along with Rahu three > > > planets > > > > > are > > > > > > > arranged at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury : 8d 13m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars : 10d 53m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun : 22d 16m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mercury and Mars are just 2d 40m apart , close > enough > > > to be > > > > > > > considered as together. The sun and the mercury are far > > apart > > > > > some > > > > > > 15 > > > > > > > degrees apart. Therefore because of mars and mercury being > > > > > > together , > > > > > > > mars would be considered as ashubh. And the surya + rahu > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > becomes operative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now discussing the same phenomena through Vedic > > astrology. > > > The > > > > > > > Vedic `parihar' clause says : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " agar Chandra , mangal aur brahaspati shubh ho to Rahu > > > janya > > > > > > dosh > > > > > > > ka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parihar ho jata hai " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the moon , mars and Jupiter are strong the dosh > > resulting > > > > > > > because of rahu is eliminated. In this kundali moon is in > > > scorpio > > > > > > > hence neech , Mars is in cancer hence neech , and Jupiter > is > > > > > placed > > > > > > > in its enemy rasi hence weak. There is no help from > either > > of > > > > > these > > > > > > > three planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore there is no `parihar' or respite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In conclusion , the surya + rahu dosh is there. To do > the > > > > > remedy > > > > > > or > > > > > > > not is entirely up to you. If I were in your place I > > wouldn't > > > > > have > > > > > > > taken chances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your > > > > > friends > > > > > > > today! 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Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Dear Anjali ji, First of all I would like to thank Priya ji for finding me deserving enough for giving me the amount of respect given to me. Thank you , Priyaji. Secondly, here in I am giving analysis of the time provided by you. Pln R C Sign Degree House Exalted RasiL NakL SubL Pad Nav Asc Cap 6:43:53 -- -- Sat Sun Mer 4 12 Sun Gem 10:13:48 6 Neutral Mer Rah Jup 2 10 Mon Cap 29:01:30 1 Neutral Sat Mar Sat 2 6 Mar Pis 15:21:55 3 Friend Jup Sat Jup 4 8 Mer Can 2:17:15 7 Enemy Mon Jup Rah 4 4 Jup Vir 15:36:36 9 Enemy Mer Mon Jup 2 2 Ven Can 2:54:35 7 Enemy Mon Jup Rah 4 4 Sat Can 3:25:53 7 Enemy Mon Sat Sat 1 5 Rah R Pis 25:33:01 3 Neutral Jup Mer Rah 3 11 Ket R Vir 25:33:01 9 Enemy Mer Mar Rah 1 5 Ura R Aqu 16:47:15 2 -- Sat Rah Ven 4 12 Nep R Cap 23:19:45 1 -- Sat Mon Sun 4 4 Plu R Sco 28:56:42 11 -- Mar Mer Sat 4 12 Vimsottari Dasa Mars 4Y0M4D Mars 25/06/2005 29/06/2009 Mars00/00/0000 Rahu00/00/0000 Jupiter25/06/2005 Saturn29/12/2005 Mercury26/12/2006 Ketu24/05/2007 Venus24/07/2008 Sun28/11/2008 Moon29/06/2009 In this case Asc. is falling in Capri with Pisces navamsha. There are a few positive points of this as well negative. I leave it to your discretion to select , cause my right thing might not be right for you.I am keeping it very concise for obvious reasons. VEDIC SYSTEM ANALYSIS Best thing in this chart would be that there is an exchange of house between Moon and Saturn (1st & 7th lord) thus both houses are geting strength from Lagna. But, Moon in the asc. is dispositing Mer,Ven & Sat and might not spell a good combination as far as a girl is concerned that I believe it should be acording to this time.Anyway this combination also makes a person passionate and mentally disturbed. Moon is moreover at the fag end of the sign.From navamsha point of view Asc lord is Jupiter who suffers from Kendradhipatya dosha and is in 3rd in enemy sign. Thus it is competent enough to give physical troubles to the native in its periods. Its dispositor Venus is in enemy sign aspected by 6th lord Sun from 11th. Although it is with Mercury who is creating Rajyoga as being lord of quadrants in trikons.But how a sick person would enjoy Rajyoga ? Next important thing is that currently this person would be running Mars period upto 2009 and thereafter Rahu's period for next 18 years. This is the time when person gets moulding and enjoys best time of his/her life. But Rahu's nature we all know. So does not convince me much. LAL KITAB ANALYSIS There are three planets in 7th with 1 in 1st. Thus the native will be driven more by other people than his own mind which is not favourable. Jupiter in the 9th adversely affects Mer, Ven in 7th(Priya ji please correct me if wrong) and 2nd, 10th & 4th all are vacant thus dormant which is not so good as far as finances are concerned. Sun in the 6th is weak and moreover dormant. Positive aspect is Ju, Ke in the 9th and Mars, Rahu in 3rd. Best part is Rahu is under control of Mars here and Ketu is rendered benefic being with Jupiter especially in 9th.Here again we are getting same results. Rajyoga but feeble person. CONCLUSION Does not satisfy me much but that is my oinion and you might be seeing something which might have escaped my eyes or brains. I will just try to come up with some better time(in my opinion and reasons) and inform you but I will request you for some time as currently I am working to relieve a father from worries of his son. May GOD bless all the parents and children of the world. Aamin ! May GOD shower you and your family with his choicest blessings, Best regards Jai * I would like to have comments/feedback from all the revered members on any aspect of the analysis so that I can help them better and I shall remain thankful for that. On 5/25/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1 wrote: Dear Nahata Jiwould you be kind enough to answer this mail. all details are belowin my correspondence with Priya JiRgdsAnjalilalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya>wrote:> Dear Anjali,>> I am not very good at predicting future , I think Nahata ji wouldbe> the best person to suggest a date and time. >> sincerely,>> Priya>>>>> lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " <anjaliraj1>wrote: > > Dear Priya> >> > It feels good that you can feel my dilemma. i wish it were easier> to> > decide.> >> > is there at all a 'good enough' date and time bet last wk of june > and> > first wk july for my baby to be born? someone told me june 25th> > between 9:03PM - 9:12PM, New Delhi is a good day.> >> > Thanks again for your thoughtful insights. your knowledge is > > tremendous.> >> > Regards> > Anjali> >> > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > < bhooshanpriya>> > wrote:> > > Dear Anjali,> > >> > > You have put me into a dilemma . Ethics , destiny , God's willon> > the> > > one hand and the mother instinct on the other. I am torn between> > the> > > two. I thought over your question the whole night yesterday> > otherwise> > > you know I am very prompt in replying. What would I have doneif> I > > > were in the shoes of Anjali , an expectant mother ? I neededto> > know> > > an honest reply , a reply that appeals to me.> > >> > > At the end, I came to the conclusion that if I could , I would > give> > > my child the best start possible. And if deciding the time of> > birth> > > gives an advantage to my child , I would. To me it is not a> matter> > > of academic discussion , it is an emotional matter that is > between> > me> > > and my child.> > >> > > It was only after the dilemma was solved , I felt so> relieved .> > > Now I leave it to you Anjali . You are the mother to be. It is > > > between you and your child.> > >> > >> > > With love,> > >> > > Priya> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> > wrote:> > > > Dear Anjali ji,> > > > First of all, May GOD bless you and your child, always.> > > > Secondly, no matter what we can never be greater thanalmighty. > > He> > > is the> > > > best judge of our deeds. Moreover if it would have been> possible> > > than Shri> > > > Ramji taken birth on best time. Could he ? We all see best > bride> > > and grooms> > > > for our children but we all know that couples are made in> heaven> > > and they> > > > are left here to join hands. > > > > So my sincere advice to you would be to have full faith in> > almighty> > > GOD and> > > > pray for the best to happen to your child.> > > > And this what we all will do. > > > > May GOD bless you and child.> > > > Best regards> > > > Jai> > > >> > > >> > > > On 5/24/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1@y ....> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Priya> > > > >> > > > > I am expecting my second child. He/she is due on 5th July.> > Since> > > my > > > > > first was a c-section, this one may be too. I had put up a> > > question> > > > > once earlier whether it is ethical/moral/good to pre-planthe> > > > > date/time of my childs birth. i myself believe it should be > > left> > > to> > > > > God.> > > > >> > > > > There is an astrologer though who has taken out the date of> > 25th> > > June > > > > > 9:03 PM to 9:12 PM, New Delhi, as the best time for this> birth.> > > Any> > > > > suggestions from anyone?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and best rgds > > > > > Anjali> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > <bhooshanpriya>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Anjali,> > > > > >> > > > > > I can understand your concern , it is not advisable at this> > age> > > to> > > > > > study the horoscope for other things , other then 'Bal-> > > arishtha'. I> > > > > > have done that already. Bal-arishth is illness or any > untoward> > > > > > happening which might threaten the life of a child.> > > > > >> > > > > > I share your concern as a mother.> > > > > > > > > > > > with Love,> > > > > >> > > > > > Priya> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " > > <anjaliraj1>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Priya Ji > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you analyse my sons horoscope in totality then> please.> > > > > > > His DOB is 08.08.2000. Time : 02.32PM, New Delhi. > > > > > > > Could you also pls emphasise what impact 'arishta' hason> a> > > > > persons> > > > > > > horoscope.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Rgds> > > > > > > Anjali> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya> > > > > > <bhooshanpriya>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Irrespective of what has been said here in theGroup ,> > your> > > > > > > astrologer is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Yes, the child has > `arishta'> > > > > > arising> > > > > > > out of the sun + rahu combination.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > In astrology a child's horoscope should not be studied> for> > > > > many> > > > > > > matters; but there is one area where it is not only> > > > > recommended ,> > > > > > it > > > > > > > is mandatory to study the horoscope of a child for> > `arishta'.> > > > > > Arishta> > > > > > > means , illness and any other unfortunate happening. An > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > must cast the horoscope and study it for `arishta' and> > > > > > > suggest `samaadhaan' or upaya. If that were not the case ,> > > > > instead> > > > > > of> > > > > > > casting a horoscope at the time of birth people would> just> > > note> > > > > the > > > > > > > time and the date and get it cast only after the childis> > 12> > > or> > > > > 13.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now explaining why your astrologer is right. I am> quoting> > > > > > original> > > > > > > excerpts from Lal Kitab { 1952 ed} along with page > numbers> > > from> > > > > > Arun> > > > > > > Sanhita for every one to verify.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rahu :> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Rahu is placed in the 9th> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > {a } " rahu khana 9 , 12 mein neech kaha gaya hai " p223> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > { b } " rahu ab 9guni mandi takat ka malik hoga jo > > Chandra> > > ko> > > > > bhi> > > > > > > madhyam kar> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > dega " p235 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sun + Rahu : > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [ 1 ] " garhan ka manda samay us samay jor par hoga jab> > dono> > > > > > > kundali ke 9 ya> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 12 mein baithe hon " p288 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This combination is most vicious when either in the 9th> > or> > > in> > > > > the> > > > > > > 12th .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] " grahan ravi ki kismet hoti , varna umrachhoti> > marta> > > > > ho " > > > > > > p> > > > > > > 287 . > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Either his kismet will be eclipsed or he will die > > young. " > > > 45> > > > > > saal> > > > > > > tak umra shaqqi " the fear for life will be up to theage> of> > > 45 , > > > > > > > after that there will be no danger for life.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [ 3 ] " chahe surya ko grahan lagata ho, magar garmee > se> > aur> > > > > bhi> > > > > > > adhik hani> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > karne wala hilta hua hathi hoga " p 224> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even though the rahu eclipses the sun but it becomes a> > > violent> > > > > > > elephant capable of greater damage under the heat ofthe> > sun.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [ 4 ] " surya ki drishti ya sath se rahu ka prabhavna> > sirf> > > > > > baithe> > > > > > > hue ghar par > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > manda hoga balki saath lagata ghar bhi barbad hoga " p > 224> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This combination would not only damage the house it is> > in ,> > > > > would> > > > > > > also damage the adjacent house. This means both the 9th> > house> > > > > > > of `bhagya' and the 10th house of ` profession, > > yash ,father'> > > > > would> > > > > > > be damaged.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] " surya ,rahu ke samay yadi shukra aur budhsaath> > ho> > > to> > > > > > surya> > > > > > > graham ka > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > asar bura nahi hoga " p287> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a `parihar' clause . `parihar' means escape> from> > the> > > > > > > results . This combination of the sun and the rahu will be> > > > > > > ineffective if the venus and mercury are together inthe> > > kundali.> > > > > > > Venus and mercury together form masnui SUN . That means > if> > > there> > > > > is> > > > > > > another masnui {artificial} sun in the kundali , the> natal> > sun> > > > > will > > > > > > > get strengthened.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am afraid , there is no masnui sun in the kundaliand> > > hence > > > > > no> > > > > > > escape from the results.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] " agar mangal kisi tarah se bhi rahu ko dabatana> > ho> > > ya> > > > > > khud> > > > > > > hi mangal > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > manda ho �. to uttam sehat aur lambi ayu dono shaqqi > > hongi " > > > p> > > > > 288> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is another `parihar' clause. If the mars is not > > ashubh> > > and> > > > > > > controls the rahu , the combination would not effect;on> the> > > > > > contrary> > > > > > > if the mangal itself is ashubh and incapable of > controlling> > > the> > > > > > > rahu , then both the health and longevity will be> doubtful.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now the matter to be resolved is whether mangal is > shubh> > in> > > > > this> > > > > > > kundali or ashubh. In the kundali along with Rahu three> > > planets> > > > > are> > > > > > > arranged at: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mercury : 8d 13m> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mars : 10d 53m> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun : 22d 16m> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The mercury and Mars are just 2d 40m apart , close > enough> > > to be> > > > > > > considered as together. The sun and the mercury are far> > apart> > > > > some> > > > > > 15 > > > > > > > degrees apart. Therefore because of mars and mercurybeing> > > > > > together ,> > > > > > > mars would be considered as ashubh. And the surya + rahu > > > > > > combination> > > > > > > becomes operative.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now discussing the same phenomena through Vedic> > astrology.> > > The> > > > > > > Vedic `parihar' clause says :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > " agar Chandra , mangal aur brahaspati shubh ho toRahu> > > janya > > > > > > dosh> > > > > > > ka> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > parihar ho jata hai " . > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > If the moon , mars and Jupiter are strong the dosh > > resulting> > > > > > > because of rahu is eliminated. In this kundali moon isin> > > scorpio> > > > > > > hence neech , Mars is in cancer hence neech , and Jupiter> is> > > > > placed> > > > > > > in its enemy rasi hence weak. There is no help from> either> > of> > > > > these> > > > > > > three planets. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Therefore there is no `parihar' or respite.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In conclusion , the surya + rahu dosh is there. To do> the> > > > > remedy> > > > > > or> > > > > > > not is entirely up to you. If I were in your place I > > wouldn't> > > > > have> > > > > > > taken chances.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Priya> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your> > > > > friends> > > > > > > today! 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Guest guest Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 Dear Nahata Ji Thank you for the insight. i will wait eagerly for another time. Best Rgds Anjali lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote: > Dear Anjali ji, > First of all I would like to thank Priya ji for finding me deserving enough > for giving me the amount of respect given to me. Thank you , Priyaji. > Secondly, here in I am giving analysis of the time provided by you. > Pln R C Sign Degree House Exalted RasiL NakL SubL Pad Nav Asc > > Cap 6:43:53 -- -- Sat Sun Mer 4 12 Sun > > Gem 10:13:48 6 Neutral Mer Rah Jup 2 10 Mon > Cap 29:01:30 1 Neutral Sat Mar Sat 2 6 Mar > > Pis 15:21:55 3 Friend Jup Sat Jup 4 8 Mer > > Can 2:17:15 7 Enemy Mon Jup Rah 4 4 Jup > > Vir 15:36:36 9 Enemy Mer Mon Jup 2 2 Ven > > Can 2:54:35 7 Enemy Mon Jup Rah 4 4 Sat > > Can 3:25:53 7 Enemy Mon Sat Sat 1 5 Rah R > Pis 25:33:01 3 Neutral Jup Mer Rah 3 11 Ket R > Vir 25:33:01 9 Enemy Mer Mar Rah 1 5 Ura R > Aqu 16:47:15 2 -- Sat Rah Ven 4 12 Nep R > Cap 23:19:45 1 -- Sat Mon Sun 4 4 Plu R > Sco 28:56:42 11 -- Mar Mer Sat 4 12 > Vimsottari Dasa *Mars* 4Y0M4D *Mars* 25/06/2005 29/06/2009 Mars > 00/00/0000 Rahu00/00/0000 Jupiter25/06/2005 Saturn29/12/2005 Mercury > 26/12/2006 Ketu24/05/2007 Venus24/07/2008 Sun28/11/2008 Moon29/06/2009 > In this case Asc. is falling in Capri with Pisces navamsha. There are a few > positive points of this as well negative. I leave it to your discretion to > select , cause my right thing might not be right for you.I am keeping it > very concise for obvious reasons. > > VEDIC SYSTEM ANALYSIS > Best thing in this chart would be that there is an exchange of house between > Moon and Saturn (1st & 7th lord) thus both houses are geting strength from > Lagna. But, Moon in the asc. is dispositing Mer,Ven & Sat and might not > spell a good combination as far as a girl is concerned that I believe it > should be acording to this time.Anyway this combination also makes a person > passionate and mentally disturbed. Moon is moreover at the fag end of the > sign. > From navamsha point of view Asc lord is Jupiter who suffers from > Kendradhipatya dosha and is in 3rd in enemy sign. Thus it is competent > enough to give physical troubles to the native in its periods. Its > dispositor Venus is in enemy sign aspected by 6th lord Sun from 11th. > Although it is with Mercury who is creating Rajyoga as being lord of > quadrants in trikons.But how a sick person would enjoy Rajyoga ? > Next important thing is that currently this person would be running Mars > period upto 2009 and thereafter Rahu's period for next 18 years. This is the > time when person gets moulding and enjoys best time of his/her life. But > Rahu's nature we all know. So does not convince me much. > > LAL KITAB ANALYSIS > There are three planets in 7th with 1 in 1st. Thus the native will be driven > more by other people than his own mind which is not favourable. Jupiter in > the 9th adversely affects Mer, Ven in 7th(Priya ji please correct me if > wrong) and 2nd, 10th & 4th all are vacant thus dormant which is not so good > as far as finances are concerned. Sun in the 6th is weak and moreover > dormant. Positive aspect is Ju, Ke in the 9th and Mars, Rahu in 3rd. Best > part is Rahu is under control of Mars here and Ketu is rendered benefic > being with Jupiter especially in 9th.Here again we are getting same results. > Rajyoga but feeble person. > > CONCLUSION > Does not satisfy me much but that is my oinion and you might be seeing > something which might have escaped my eyes or brains. I will just try to > come up with some better time(in my opinion and reasons) and inform you but > I will request you for some time as currently I am working to relieve a > father from worries of his son. May GOD bless all the parents and children > of the world. Aamin ! > > May GOD shower you and your family with his choicest blessings, > > Best regards > > Jai > > * I would like to have comments/feedback from all the revered members on any > aspect of the analysis so that I can help them better and I shall remain > thankful for that. > > > On 5/25/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1> wrote: > > > > Dear Nahata Ji > > > > would you be kind enough to answer this mail. all details are below > > in my correspondence with Priya Ji > > > > Rgds > > Anjali > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> > > wrote: > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > I am not very good at predicting future , I think Nahata ji would > > be > > > the best person to suggest a date and time. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " <anjaliraj1> > > wrote: > > > > Dear Priya > > > > > > > > It feels good that you can feel my dilemma. i wish it were easier > > > to > > > > decide. > > > > > > > > is there at all a 'good enough' date and time bet last wk of june > > > and > > > > first wk july for my baby to be born? someone told me june 25th > > > > between 9:03PM - 9:12PM, New Delhi is a good day. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your thoughtful insights. your knowledge is > > > > tremendous. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anjali > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > > > > You have put me into a dilemma . Ethics , destiny , God's will > > on > > > > the > > > > > one hand and the mother instinct on the other. I am torn > > between > > > > the > > > > > two. I thought over your question the whole night yesterday > > > > otherwise > > > > > you know I am very prompt in replying. What would I have done > > if > > > I > > > > > were in the shoes of Anjali , an expectant mother ? I needed > > to > > > > know > > > > > an honest reply , a reply that appeals to me. > > > > > > > > > > At the end, I came to the conclusion that if I could , I would > > > give > > > > > my child the best start possible. And if deciding the time of > > > > birth > > > > > gives an advantage to my child , I would. To me it is not a > > > matter > > > > > of academic discussion , it is an emotional matter that is > > > between > > > > me > > > > > and my child. > > > > > > > > > > It was only after the dilemma was solved , I felt so > > > relieved . > > > > > Now I leave it to you Anjali . You are the mother to be. It is > > > > > between you and your child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With love, > > > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anjali ji, > > > > > > First of all, May GOD bless you and your child, always. > > > > > > Secondly, no matter what we can never be greater than > > almighty. > > > > He > > > > > is the > > > > > > best judge of our deeds. Moreover if it would have been > > > possible > > > > > than Shri > > > > > > Ramji taken birth on best time. Could he ? We all see best > > > bride > > > > > and grooms > > > > > > for our children but we all know that couples are made in > > > heaven > > > > > and they > > > > > > are left here to join hands. > > > > > > So my sincere advice to you would be to have full faith in > > > > almighty > > > > > GOD and > > > > > > pray for the best to happen to your child. > > > > > > And this what we all will do. > > > > > > May GOD bless you and child. > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Jai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am expecting my second child. He/she is due on 5th July. > > > > Since > > > > > my > > > > > > > first was a c-section, this one may be too. I had put up a > > > > > question > > > > > > > once earlier whether it is ethical/moral/good to pre- plan > > the > > > > > > > date/time of my childs birth. i myself believe it should be > > > > left > > > > > to > > > > > > > God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is an astrologer though who has taken out the date of > > > > 25th > > > > > June > > > > > > > 9:03 PM to 9:12 PM, New Delhi, as the best time for this > > > birth. > > > > > Any > > > > > > > suggestions from anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best rgds > > > > > > > Anjali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand your concern , it is not advisable at > > this > > > > age > > > > > to > > > > > > > > study the horoscope for other things , other then 'Bal- > > > > > arishtha'. I > > > > > > > > have done that already. Bal-arishth is illness or any > > > untoward > > > > > > > > happening which might threaten the life of a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I share your concern as a mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " > > > > <anjaliraj1> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Priya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you analyse my sons horoscope in totality then > > > please. > > > > > > > > > His DOB is 08.08.2000. Time : 02.32PM, New Delhi. > > > > > > > > > Could you also pls emphasise what impact 'arishta' has > > on > > > a > > > > > > > persons > > > > > > > > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Rgds > > > > > > > > > Anjali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya > > > > > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Irrespective of what has been said here in the > > Group , > > > > your > > > > > > > > > astrologer is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Yes, the child has > > > `arishta' > > > > > > > > arising > > > > > > > > > out of the sun + rahu combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In astrology a child's horoscope should not be > > studied > > > for > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > matters; but there is one area where it is not only > > > > > > > recommended , > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is mandatory to study the horoscope of a child for > > > > `arishta'. > > > > > > > > Arishta > > > > > > > > > means , illness and any other unfortunate happening. An > > > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > > must cast the horoscope and study it for `arishta' and > > > > > > > > > suggest `samaadhaan' or upaya. If that were not the > > case , > > > > > > > instead > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > casting a horoscope at the time of birth people would > > > just > > > > > note > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > time and the date and get it cast only after the child > > is > > > > 12 > > > > > or > > > > > > > 13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now explaining why your astrologer is right. I am > > > quoting > > > > > > > > original > > > > > > > > > excerpts from Lal Kitab { 1952 ed} along with page > > > numbers > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > Sanhita for every one to verify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Rahu is placed in the 9th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {a } " rahu khana 9 , 12 mein neech kaha gaya hai " > > p223 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > { b } " rahu ab 9guni mandi takat ka malik hoga jo > > > > Chandra > > > > > ko > > > > > > > bhi > > > > > > > > > madhyam kar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dega " p235 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun + Rahu : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] " garhan ka manda samay us samay jor par hoga > > jab > > > > dono > > > > > > > > > kundali ke 9 ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 mein baithe hon " p288 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination is most vicious when either in the > > 9th > > > > or > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 12th . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] " grahan ravi ki kismet hoti , varna umra > > chhoti > > > > marta > > > > > > > ho " > > > > > > > > p > > > > > > > > > 287 . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either his kismet will be eclipsed or he will die > > > > young. " > > > > > 45 > > > > > > > > saal > > > > > > > > > tak umra shaqqi " the fear for life will be up to the > > age > > > of > > > > > 45 , > > > > > > > > > after that there will be no danger for life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] " chahe surya ko grahan lagata ho, magar garmee > > > se > > > > aur > > > > > > > bhi > > > > > > > > > adhik hani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > karne wala hilta hua hathi hoga " p 224 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even though the rahu eclipses the sun but it becomes > > a > > > > > violent > > > > > > > > > elephant capable of greater damage under the heat of > > the > > > > sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] " surya ki drishti ya sath se rahu ka prabhav > > na > > > > sirf > > > > > > > > baithe > > > > > > > > > hue ghar par > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manda hoga balki saath lagata ghar bhi barbad hoga " p > > > 224 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination would not only damage the house it > > is > > > > in , > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > also damage the adjacent house. This means both the 9th > > > > house > > > > > > > > > of `bhagya' and the 10th house of ` profession, > > > > yash ,father' > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > be damaged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] " surya ,rahu ke samay yadi shukra aur budh > > saath > > > > ho > > > > > to > > > > > > > > surya > > > > > > > > > graham ka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asar bura nahi hoga " p287 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a `parihar' clause . `parihar' means escape > > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > > > results . This combination of the sun and the rahu will > > be > > > > > > > > > ineffective if the venus and mercury are together in > > the > > > > > kundali. > > > > > > > > > Venus and mercury together form masnui SUN . That means > > > if > > > > > there > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > another masnui {artificial} sun in the kundali , the > > > natal > > > > sun > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > get strengthened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid , there is no masnui sun in the kundali > > and > > > > > hence > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > escape from the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] " agar mangal kisi tarah se bhi rahu ko dabata > > na > > > > ho > > > > > ya > > > > > > > > khud > > > > > > > > > hi mangal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manda ho �. to uttam sehat aur lambi ayu dono shaqqi > > > > hongi " > > > > > p > > > > > > > 288 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is another `parihar' clause. If the mars is not > > > > ashubh > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > controls the rahu , the combination would not effect; > > on > > > the > > > > > > > > contrary > > > > > > > > > if the mangal itself is ashubh and incapable of > > > controlling > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > rahu , then both the health and longevity will be > > > doubtful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the matter to be resolved is whether mangal is > > > shubh > > > > in > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > kundali or ashubh. In the kundali along with Rahu three > > > > > planets > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > arranged at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury : 8d 13m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars : 10d 53m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun : 22d 16m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mercury and Mars are just 2d 40m apart , close > > > enough > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > considered as together. The sun and the mercury are far > > > > apart > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > 15 > > > > > > > > > degrees apart. Therefore because of mars and mercury > > being > > > > > > > > together , > > > > > > > > > mars would be considered as ashubh. And the surya + rahu > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > becomes operative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now discussing the same phenomena through Vedic > > > > astrology. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > Vedic `parihar' clause says : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " agar Chandra , mangal aur brahaspati shubh ho to > > Rahu > > > > > janya > > > > > > > > dosh > > > > > > > > > ka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parihar ho jata hai " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the moon , mars and Jupiter are strong the dosh > > > > resulting > > > > > > > > > because of rahu is eliminated. In this kundali moon is > > in > > > > > scorpio > > > > > > > > > hence neech , Mars is in cancer hence neech , and > > Jupiter > > > is > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > in its enemy rasi hence weak. There is no help from > > > either > > > > of > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > three planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore there is no `parihar' or respite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In conclusion , the surya + rahu dosh is there. To do > > > the > > > > > > > remedy > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > not is entirely up to you. 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Guest guest Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Dear Anjali ji, After careful observation and help of my scholar friend I am placing a time and would like to hear from everyone. Criticism is more than welcome as it will open new doors to refinement but with reasons. Time is 25th June 2005 21:05 New delhi Awaiting response from everyone, Best regards Jai On 5/26/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1 wrote: Dear Nahata JiThank you for the insight. i will wait eagerly for another time.Best RgdsAnjalilalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g ....> wrote:> Dear Anjali ji,> First of all I would like to thank Priya ji for finding medeserving enough> for giving me the amount of respect given to me. Thank you ,Priyaji.> Secondly, here in I am giving analysis of the time provided by you. > Pln R C Sign Degree House Exalted RasiL NakL SubL Pad NavAsc>> Cap 6:43:53 -- -- Sat Sun Mer 4 12 Sun>> Gem 10:13:48 6 Neutral Mer Rah Jup 2 10 Mon> Cap 29:01:30 1 Neutral Sat Mar Sat 2 6 Mar> > Pis 15:21:55 3 Friend Jup Sat Jup 4 8 Mer>> Can 2:17:15 7 Enemy Mon Jup Rah 4 4 Jup>> Vir 15:36:36 9 Enemy Mer Mon Jup 2 2 Ven>> Can 2:54:35 7 Enemy Mon Jup Rah 4 4 Sat >> Can 3:25:53 7 Enemy Mon Sat Sat 1 5 Rah R> Pis 25:33:01 3 Neutral Jup Mer Rah 3 11 Ket R> Vir 25:33:01 9 Enemy Mer Mar Rah 1 5 Ura R> Aqu 16:47:15 2 -- Sat Rah Ven 4 12 Nep R > Cap 23:19:45 1 -- Sat Mon Sun 4 4 Plu R> Sco 28:56:42 11 -- Mar Mer Sat 4 12> Vimsottari Dasa *Mars* 4Y0M4D *Mars* 25/06/2005 29/06/2009Mars> 00/00/0000 Rahu00/00/0000 Jupiter25/06/2005 Saturn29/12/2005 Mercury> 26/12/2006 Ketu24/05/2007 Venus24/07/2008 Sun28/11/2008Moon29/06/2009> In this case Asc. is falling in Capri with Pisces navamsha. Thereare a few> positive points of this as well negative. I leave it to your discretion to> select , cause my right thing might not be right for you.I amkeeping it> very concise for obvious reasons.>> VEDIC SYSTEM ANALYSIS> Best thing in this chart would be that there is an exchange of house between> Moon and Saturn (1st & 7th lord) thus both houses are getingstrength from> Lagna. But, Moon in the asc. is dispositing Mer,Ven & Sat andmight not> spell a good combination as far as a girl is concerned that I believe it> should be acording to this time.Anyway this combination also makesa person> passionate and mentally disturbed. Moon is moreover at the fag endof the> sign.> From navamsha point of view Asc lord is Jupiter who suffers from > Kendradhipatya dosha and is in 3rd in enemy sign. Thus it iscompetent> enough to give physical troubles to the native in its periods. Its> dispositor Venus is in enemy sign aspected by 6th lord Sun from 11th.> Although it is with Mercury who is creating Rajyoga as being lordof> quadrants in trikons.But how a sick person would enjoy Rajyoga ?> Next important thing is that currently this person would be running Mars> period upto 2009 and thereafter Rahu's period for next 18 years.This is the> time when person gets moulding and enjoys best time of his/herlife. But> Rahu's nature we all know. So does not convince me much. >> LAL KITAB ANALYSIS> There are three planets in 7th with 1 in 1st. Thus the native willbe driven> more by other people than his own mind which is not favourable.Jupiter in> the 9th adversely affects Mer, Ven in 7th(Priya ji please correct me if> wrong) and 2nd, 10th & 4th all are vacant thus dormant which isnot so good> as far as finances are concerned. Sun in the 6th is weak andmoreover> dormant. Positive aspect is Ju, Ke in the 9th and Mars, Rahu in 3rd. Best> part is Rahu is under control of Mars here and Ketu is renderedbenefic> being with Jupiter especially in 9th.Here again we are gettingsame results.> Rajyoga but feeble person. >> CONCLUSION> Does not satisfy me much but that is my oinion and you might beseeing> something which might have escaped my eyes or brains. I will justtry to> come up with some better time(in my opinion and reasons) and inform you but> I will request you for some time as currently I am working torelieve a> father from worries of his son. May GOD bless all the parents andchildren> of the world. Aamin ! >> May GOD shower you and your family with his choicest blessings,>> Best regards>> Jai>> * I would like to have comments/feedback from all the reveredmembers on any > aspect of the analysis so that I can help them better and I shallremain> thankful for that.>>> On 5/25/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1> wrote:> >> > Dear Nahata Ji > >> > would you be kind enough to answer this mail. all details arebelow> > in my correspondence with Priya Ji> >> > Rgds> > Anjali> >> > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya>> > wrote:> > > Dear Anjali,> > >> > > I am not very good at predicting future , I think Nahata ji would> > be> > > the best person to suggest a date and time.> > >> > > sincerely,> > >> > > Priya> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " <anjaliraj1>> > wrote:> > > > Dear Priya> > > > > > > > It feels good that you can feel my dilemma. i wish it wereeasier> > > to> > > > decide.> > > >> > > > is there at all a 'good enough' date and time bet last wk of june> > > and> > > > first wk july for my baby to be born? someone told me june25th> > > > between 9:03PM - 9:12PM, New Delhi is a good day.> > > >> > > > Thanks again for your thoughtful insights. your knowledge is > > > > tremendous.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Anjali> > > >> > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > <bhooshanpriya>> > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Anjali,> > > > >> > > > > You have put me into a dilemma . Ethics , destiny , God's will> > on> > > > the> > > > > one hand and the mother instinct on the other. I am torn> > between> > > > the> > > > > two. I thought over your question the whole night yesterday > > > > otherwise> > > > > you know I am very prompt in replying. What would I havedone> > if> > > I> > > > > were in the shoes of Anjali , an expectant mother ? I needed> > to> > > > know> > > > > an honest reply , a reply that appeals to me.> > > > >> > > > > At the end, I came to the conclusion that if I could , I would> > > give> > > > > my child the best start possible. And if deciding the timeof> > > > birth> > > > > gives an advantage to my child , I would. To me it is not a > > > matter> > > > > of academic discussion , it is an emotional matter that is> > > between> > > > me> > > > > and my child.> > > > > > > > > > It was only after the dilemma was solved , I felt so> > > relieved .> > > > > Now I leave it to you Anjali . You are the mother to be.It is> > > > > between you and your child. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > With love,> > > > >> > > > > Priya> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > lalkitab , Jai Nahata<jaynahata@g...>> > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Anjali ji,> > > > > > First of all, May GOD bless you and your child, always. > > > > > > Secondly, no matter what we can never be greater than> > almighty.> > > > He> > > > > is the> > > > > > best judge of our deeds. Moreover if it would have been > > > possible> > > > > than Shri> > > > > > Ramji taken birth on best time. Could he ? We all seebest> > > bride> > > > > and grooms > > > > > > for our children but we all know that couples are made in> > > heaven> > > > > and they> > > > > > are left here to join hands.> > > > > > So my sincere advice to you would be to have full faith in> > > > almighty> > > > > GOD and> > > > > > pray for the best to happen to your child.> > > > > > And this what we all will do.> > > > > > May GOD bless you and child. > > > > > > Best regards> > > > > > Jai> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 5/24/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1@y ....> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Priya> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am expecting my second child. He/she is due on 5th July.> > > > Since> > > > > my> > > > > > > first was a c-section, this one may be too. I had putup a> > > > > question> > > > > > > once earlier whether it is ethical/moral/good to pre- plan> > the> > > > > > > date/time of my childs birth. i myself believe itshould be> > > > left> > > > > to> > > > > > > God. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is an astrologer though who has taken out thedate of> > > > 25th> > > > > June> > > > > > > 9:03 PM to 9:12 PM, New Delhi, as the best time for this> > > birth.> > > > > Any> > > > > > > suggestions from anyone?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and best rgds > > > > > > > Anjali> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > > > <bhooshanpriya>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Anjali,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand your concern , it is not advisableat> > this> > > > age> > > > > to> > > > > > > > study the horoscope for other things , other then 'Bal-> > > > > arishtha'. I> > > > > > > > have done that already. Bal-arishth is illness or any> > > untoward> > > > > > > > happening which might threaten the life of a child. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I share your concern as a mother.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > with Love, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Priya> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " anjaliraj1 " > > > > <anjaliraj1>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Priya Ji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Could you analyse my sons horoscope in totalitythen> > > please. > > > > > > > > > His DOB is 08.08.2000. Time : 02.32PM, New Delhi.> > > > > > > > > Could you also pls emphasise what impact 'arishta'has> > on > > > a> > > > > > > persons> > > > > > > > > horoscope.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best Rgds > > > > > > > > > Anjali> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya> > > > > > > > <bhooshanpriya>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Irrespective of what has been said here in the> > Group , > > > > your> > > > > > > > > astrologer is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Yes, the child has> > > `arishta'> > > > > > > > arising> > > > > > > > > out of the sun + rahu combination. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In astrology a child's horoscope should not be> > studied> > > for> > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > matters; but there is one area where it is not only> > > > > > > recommended ,> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > is mandatory to study the horoscope of a child for > > > > `arishta'.> > > > > > > > Arishta> > > > > > > > > means , illness and any other unfortunatehappening. An> > > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > > must cast the horoscope and study it for `arishta'and> > > > > > > > > suggest `samaadhaan' or upaya. If that were not the> > case , > > > > > > > instead> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > casting a horoscope at the time of birth peoplewould> > > just > > > > > note> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > time and the date and get it cast only after thechild> > is> > > > 12 > > > > > or> > > > > > > 13.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now explaining why your astrologer is right. I am> > > quoting> > > > > > > > original> > > > > > > > > excerpts from Lal Kitab { 1952 ed} along with page > > > numbers> > > > > from> > > > > > > > Arun> > > > > > > > > Sanhita for every one to verify.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rahu :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Rahu is placed in the 9th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > {a } " rahu khana 9 , 12 mein neech kaha gayahai " > > p223> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > { b } " rahu ab 9guni mandi takat ka malik hoga jo> > > > Chandra> > > > > ko> > > > > > > bhi> > > > > > > > > madhyam kar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dega " p235> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sun + Rahu :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] " garhan ka manda samay us samay jor parhoga > > jab> > > > dono> > > > > > > > > kundali ke 9 ya> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 mein baithe hon " p288> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination is most vicious when either inthe> > 9th> > > > or> > > > > in> > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 12th .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] " grahan ravi ki kismet hoti , varna umra > > chhoti> > > > marta> > > > > > > ho " > > > > > > > > p> > > > > > > > > 287 .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Either his kismet will be eclipsed or he will die> > > > young. " > > > > > 45> > > > > > > > saal> > > > > > > > > tak umra shaqqi " the fear for life will be up tothe> > age> > > of > > > > > 45 ,> > > > > > > > > after that there will be no danger for life.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] " chahe surya ko grahan lagata ho, magargarmee> > > se> > > > aur> > > > > > > bhi > > > > > > > > > adhik hani> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > karne wala hilta hua hathi hoga " p 224> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even though the rahu eclipses the sun but itbecomes> > a> > > > > violent> > > > > > > > > elephant capable of greater damage under the heat of> > the> > > > sun.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] " surya ki drishti ya sath se rahu ka prabhav> > na> > > > sirf> > > > > > > > baithe> > > > > > > > > hue ghar par> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > manda hoga balki saath lagata ghar bhi barbadhoga " p > > > 224> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This combination would not only damage the house it> > is> > > > in ,> > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > also damage the adjacent house. This means boththe 9th> > > > house > > > > > > > > > of `bhagya' and the 10th house of ` profession,> > > > yash ,father'> > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > be damaged. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] " surya ,rahu ke samay yadi shukra aur budh > > saath> > > > ho> > > > > to> > > > > > > > surya> > > > > > > > > graham ka> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > asar bura nahi hoga " p287> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is a `parihar' clause . `parihar' meansescape> > > from > > > > the> > > > > > > > > results . This combination of the sun and the rahuwill> > be> > > > > > > > > ineffective if the venus and mercury are together in> > the> > > > > kundali.> > > > > > > > > Venus and mercury together form masnui SUN . Thatmeans> > > if> > > > > there > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > another masnui {artificial} sun in the kundali ,the> > > natal> > > > sun> > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > get strengthened.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I am afraid , there is no masnui sun in thekundali > > and> > > > > hence> > > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > escape from the results.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] " agar mangal kisi tarah se bhi rahu kodabata> > na > > > > ho> > > > > ya> > > > > > > > khud> > > > > > > > > hi mangal> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > manda ho �. to uttam sehat aur lambi ayu donoshaqqi> > > > hongi " > > > > > p > > > > > > > 288> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is another `parihar' clause. If the mars is not> > > > ashubh> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > controls the rahu , the combination would noteffect;> > on> > > the> > > > > > > > contrary > > > > > > > > > if the mangal itself is ashubh and incapable of> > > controlling> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > rahu , then both the health and longevity will be > > > doubtful.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now the matter to be resolved is whether mangalis> > > shubh> > > > in > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > kundali or ashubh. In the kundali along with Rahuthree> > > > > planets> > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > arranged at:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Mercury : 8d 13m> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars : 10d 53m> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sun : 22d 16m> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The mercury and Mars are just 2d 40m apart ,close> > > enough > > > > > to be> > > > > > > > > considered as together. The sun and the mercuryare far> > > > apart> > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > 15 > > > > > > > > > degrees apart. Therefore because of mars andmercury> > being> > > > > > > > together ,> > > > > > > > > mars would be considered as ashubh. And the surya + rahu> > > > > > > > combination> > > > > > > > > becomes operative.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now discussing the same phenomena through Vedic> > > > astrology.> > > > > The > > > > > > > > > Vedic `parihar' clause says :> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " agar Chandra , mangal aur brahaspati shubh hoto> > Rahu> > > > > janya> > > > > > > > dosh> > > > > > > > > ka > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > parihar ho jata hai " . > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If the moon , mars and Jupiter are strong the dosh> > > > resulting> > > > > > > > > because of rahu is eliminated. In this kundalimoon is> > in> > > > > scorpio> > > > > > > > > hence neech , Mars is in cancer hence neech , and > > Jupiter> > > is> > > > > > > placed> > > > > > > > > in its enemy rasi hence weak. There is no help from> > > either> > > > of > > > > > > > these> > > > > > > > > three planets.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Therefore there is no `parihar' or respite. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In conclusion , the surya + rahu dosh is there. To do> > > the> > > > > > > remedy> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > not is entirely up to you. If I were in your place I> > > > wouldn't> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > taken chances.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicateinstantly... " Ping " your> > > > > > > friends> > > > > > > > > today! Download Messenger Now > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Dear Anjali ji, I am always there to help everybody with all my potential and limitations. Infact there's one more time that I found to be quite good but only from Vedic point of view and not LK. Time is 27.6.05 20.08 New Delhi I request all the revered members to comment on this. May GOD bless you and family !Best regards Jai On 6/2/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1 wrote: Dear Nahata JiThank you very much for the date/time for my unborn child.Best RgdsAnjali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Thank You again Nahata Ji. Hope i get more options from you before the delivery. is there anything good from 1st july to 7th july as my gynae says it looks like the baby will be full term. Thanks Anjali lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote: > Dear Anjali ji, > I am always there to help everybody with all my potential and limitations. > Infact there's one more time that I found to be *quite good but only from > Vedic point of view and not LK.* Time is > 27.6.05 > 20.08 > New Delhi > I request all the revered members to comment on this. > May GOD bless you and family ! > > Best regards > Jai > On 6/2/05, anjaliraj1 <anjaliraj1> wrote: > > > Dear Nahata Ji > > > > Thank you very much for the date/time for my unborn child. > > > > Best Rgds > > Anjali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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