Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Dear Johar Ji 1. The person is doing business in Iron, so he is buying iron in bulk, keeping a stock of it, managing an inventory level and his salesmen are selling it. He is not literally giving away an iron object with his own hands freely. Secondly, when he is NOT DONATING IT IN CHARITY, it is not a daan. So, he is selling it and making money out of it. It hope this satisfies your doubt. 2. Yes, you are right, when a planet is malefic and we are donating objects related to it, why should we keep one coin related to that planet with us, even while we are throwing the other in the water. The logic, as rightly observed by another member earlier and as LK says, is the samething that, in doing so, the negative energy of the planet is thrown out in the water and only the positive energy is left with the native. So, from that moment onwards, the planet starts working as a benefic, if not it stops working as a malefic. I understand this is the logic. Hope the above clarifies you. I am always open to get educated and corrected and any member is more than welcome to improve my knowledge and I would always be grateful to them. With best regards Arjunbhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp wrote: Dear Arjun ji,2 things for you - a native has strong saturn and he is doing business iniron & steel, How wud we differentiate between sellingof the iron objects vs donating iron objects. in boththe cases, he is keeping away IRON from himself.Second, we perfoem jal pravah remedy in cas eofmalefic planet & LK says keep One coin with ourself & throw away 2nd coin in water. my question wud be ifits malefic why r we keeping one coin with us?pl. advise.saturn like oil and iron or throw them in water, he>would lose in his business.--- arjun pandit <panditarjun2004 wrote:> Dear Friends> > Recently some members evinced interest in knowing> what is the rationale behind throwing thigns in> water. After studying four different versions> (interpretations) of Lal Kitab, the following may> please be noted:> > If a planet is benefic or in exaltation, the native> should NOT donate or throw things related to that> benefic planet. Otherwise he would lose the> goodness of those planets.> > If a planet is malefic or in debilitation, the> native should NOT accept in charity things related> to that malefic planet. otherwise his condition> would be further worsened.> > Suppose, a native has strong saturn and he is doing> business in iron & steel, if he donates objects of> saturn like oil and iron or throw them in water, he> would lose in his business.> > Only if a person has a malefic or debilitated> planet, he should donate objects related to that> planet.> > As per LK, as rightly observed by another member,> throwing one piece is like throwing away the> negative part and retaining the positive part.> > As regards throwing objects related to such malefic> planet in running water the reasoning is that> throwing items of food related to such planet would> be a big langar for all the fish, frogs and other> creaturs that live in water. Throwing objects in> running water means it is a GUPT DAAN given to> water. When a person donates food in a langar, he> attracts so much publicity and even get buraa nazar> from his enemies. Also that person develops ahankar> because of the publicity he attracts. Similary when> he donates silver, gold, copper or any other object> to someone, there also he gets the same problems as> mentioned above. So throwing these things in water> would bet treated as GUPT DAAN and they give the> best results.> > Hope my learned fraternity either correct or add to> the above.> > With best regards> > Arjun> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 You are right . I would like to add here is the logic : When u go to temple and offer prasad to idols , pandit keep some of it and rest hand over to u . This rest of the prasad is kept as asshirvad from idols . When u throw a coin in flowing water , this will remove negative energy arising due to cruel nature of the planet. You are telling that planet that OK please remove your ill effects. Likewise retaining one coin means you should not loose goodness of that planet and positives of that planets always help U. If u are not doing this then malefics are removed but no gains from that planets like wise other planets will get effected and start giving wrong effects . That is why , we say perform remedies in there due respect and fulfill every aspect of it , otherwise this will harm u and u start giving blame to astrologer .i hope this is clear to all you learned members. Regards Mukesh anand (future astrologer) lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of arjun pandit Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:25 AM lalkitab [lalkitab] Reason for flowing objects in water Dear Johar Ji 1. The person is doing business in Iron, so he is buying iron in bulk, keeping a stock of it, managing an inventory level and his salesmen are selling it. He is not literally giving away an iron object with his own hands freely. Secondly, when he is NOT DONATING IT IN CHARITY, it is not a daan. So, he is selling it and making money out of it. It hope this satisfies your doubt. 2. Yes, you are right, when a planet is malefic and we are donating objects related to it, why should we keep one coin related to that planet with us, even while we are throwing the other in the water. The logic, as rightly observed by another member earlier and as LK says, is the samething that, in doing so, the negative energy of the planet is thrown out in the water and only the positive energy is left with the native. So, from that moment onwards, the planet starts working as a benefic, if not it stops working as a malefic. I understand this is the logic. Hope the above clarifies you. I am always open to get educated and corrected and any member is more than welcome to improve my knowledge and I would always be grateful to them. With best regards Arjun bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp wrote: Dear Arjun ji, 2 things for you - a native has strong saturn and he is doing business in iron & steel, How wud we differentiate between selling of the iron objects vs donating iron objects. in both the cases, he is keeping away IRON from himself. Second, we perfoem jal pravah remedy in cas eof malefic planet & LK says keep One coin with ourself & throw away 2nd coin in water. my question wud be if its malefic why r we keeping one coin with us? pl. advise. saturn like oil and iron or throw them in water, he >would lose in his business. --- arjun pandit <panditarjun2004 wrote: > Dear Friends > > Recently some members evinced interest in knowing > what is the rationale behind throwing thigns in > water. After studying four different versions > (interpretations) of Lal Kitab, the following may > please be noted: > > If a planet is benefic or in exaltation, the native > should NOT donate or throw things related to that > benefic planet. Otherwise he would lose the > goodness of those planets. > > If a planet is malefic or in debilitation, the > native should NOT accept in charity things related > to that malefic planet. otherwise his condition > would be further worsened. > > Suppose, a native has strong saturn and he is doing > business in iron & steel, if he donates objects of > saturn like oil and iron or throw them in water, he > would lose in his business. > > Only if a person has a malefic or debilitated > planet, he should donate objects related to that > planet. > > As per LK, as rightly observed by another member, > throwing one piece is like throwing away the > negative part and retaining the positive part. > > As regards throwing objects related to such malefic > planet in running water the reasoning is that > throwing items of food related to such planet would > be a big langar for all the fish, frogs and other > creaturs that live in water. Throwing objects in > running water means it is a GUPT DAAN given to > water. When a person donates food in a langar, he > attracts so much publicity and even get buraa nazar > from his enemies. Also that person develops ahankar > because of the publicity he attracts. Similary when > he donates silver, gold, copper or any other object > to someone, there also he gets the same problems as > mentioned above. So throwing these things in water > would bet treated as GUPT DAAN and they give the > best results. > > Hope my learned fraternity either correct or add to > the above. > > With best regards > > Arjun > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Thanks a lot to Mukesh & Arjun ji... --- " Anand, Mukesh " <MAnand wrote: > You are right . I would like to add here is the > logic : > > 1. When u go to temple and offer prasad to idols , > pandit keep some > of it and rest hand over to u . This rest of the > prasad is kept as > asshirvad from idols . > 2. When u throw a coin in flowing water , this will > remove negative > energy arising due to cruel nature of the planet. > You are telling that > planet that OK please remove your ill effects. > Likewise retaining one > coin means you should not loose goodness of that > planet and positives of > that planets always help U. If u are not doing this > then malefics are > removed but no gains from that planets like wise > other planets will get > effected and start giving wrong effects . That is > why , we say perform > remedies in there due respect and fulfill every > aspect of it , otherwise > this will harm u and u start giving blame to > astrologer .i hope this is > clear to all you learned members. > > > > Regards > > Mukesh anand > > (future astrologer) > > ________________________________ > > lalkitab > [lalkitab ] On > Behalf Of arjun pandit > Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:25 AM > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Reason for flowing objects in > water > > > > Dear Johar Ji > > > > 1. The person is doing business in Iron, so he is > buying iron in bulk, > keeping a stock of it, managing an inventory level > and his salesmen are > selling it. He is not literally giving away an iron > object with his own > hands freely. Secondly, when he is NOT DONATING IT > IN CHARITY, it is > not a daan. So, he is selling it and making money > out of it. It hope > this satisfies your doubt. > > > > 2. Yes, you are right, when a planet is malefic and > we are donating > objects related to it, why should we keep one coin > related to that > planet with us, even while we are throwing the other > in the water. The > logic, as rightly observed by another member earlier > and as LK says, is > the samething that, in doing so, the negative energy > of the planet is > thrown out in the water and only the positive energy > is left with the > native. So, from that moment onwards, the planet > starts working as a > benefic, if not it stops working as a malefic. I > understand this is the > logic. > > > > Hope the above clarifies you. I am always open to > get educated and > corrected and any member is more than welcome to > improve my knowledge > and I would always be grateful to them. > > > > With best regards > > > > Arjun > > bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp wrote: > > Dear Arjun ji, > > 2 things for you - > > a native has strong saturn and he is doing business > in > iron & steel, How wud we differentiate between > selling > of the iron objects vs donating iron objects. in > both > the cases, he is keeping away IRON from himself. > > > Second, we perfoem jal pravah remedy in cas eof > malefic planet & LK says keep One coin with ourself > & > throw away 2nd coin in water. my question wud be if > its malefic why r we keeping one coin with us? > > pl. advise. > > saturn like oil and iron or throw them in water, he > >would lose in his business. > --- arjun pandit <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > Dear Friends > > > > Recently some members evinced interest in knowing > > what is the rationale behind throwing thigns in > > water. After studying four different versions > > (interpretations) of Lal Kitab, the following may > > please be noted: > > > > If a planet is benefic or in exaltation, the > native > > should NOT donate or throw things related to that > > benefic planet. Otherwise he would lose the > > goodness of those planets. > > > > If a planet is malefic or in debilitation, the > > native should NOT accept in charity things > related > > to that malefic planet. otherwise his condition > > would be further worsened. > > > > Suppose, a native has strong saturn and he is > doing > > business in iron & steel, if he donates objects > of > > saturn like oil and iron or throw them in water, > he > > would lose in his business. > > > > Only if a person has a malefic or debilitated > > planet, he should donate objects related to that > > planet. > > > > As per LK, as rightly observed by another member, > > throwing one piece is like throwing away the > > negative part and retaining the positive part. > > > > As regards throwing objects related to such > malefic > > planet in running water the reasoning is that > > throwing items of food related to such planet > would > > be a big langar for all the fish, frogs and other > > creaturs that live in water. Throwing objects in > > running water means it is a GUPT DAAN given to > > water. When a person donates food in a langar, > he > > attracts so much publicity and even get buraa > nazar > > from his enemies. Also that person develops > ahankar > > because of the publicity he attracts. Similary > when > > he donates silver, gold, copper or any other > object > > to someone, there also he gets the same problems > as > > mentioned above. So throwing these things in > water > > would bet treated as GUPT DAAN and they give the > > best results. > > > > Hope my learned fraternity either correct or add > to > > the above. > > > > With best regards > > > > Arjun > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > </> > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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