Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Nahata ji, There could be a lot of common ground between the Lal Kitab and the Nadi system , because both the systems draw from the same source , the Vedic tradition. But little or no help from the Nadi system can be had if working within the parameters of LK alone. And here are my reasons for saying so: [ 1 ] There are two kinds of Nadi systems known to me. One , like Dev Keralam , working on the nadiyansh ; and the other working on rasi and/or lagna system. Lets take up the first one. Nadiyansh system , as I had said in my previous mail , needs a lot of accuracy in time of birth , generally 48 seconds. A nadiyansh is further divided into four varna reducing it to 12 seconds. The nadiyansh system heavily draws upon the vedic system for its analysis incorporating the techniques of ashtakvarg and the divisional charts. On the other hand LK is a simple , non-technical system where none of these techniques are needed. Yes, the rationale of the predictions made in the Nadi system might also be understood through the LK techniques. I haven't tried that yet , but some day I wish to. [ 2 ] The second Nadi sytem based on rasi/lagna is just like Vedic , and applies Vedic principles . For how one should go about predicting using this system I quote from the Preface of Bhrigu Nandi Nadi : " When considering results , the sign occupied by a planet , the lord of the sign , the other planets posited in that sign, the planets in the 7th and 12th to the planet ,whose effects are being considered , have to be taken into account for assessing the results. The exchange of signs of that planet with another is also taken into consideration. In addition the transit of Jupiter is taken into account. He gives the results of the sign he transits. ….Take the causative planet of the particular aspect you want to study , consider the adjacent houses of that planet and the 7th house there from ….you will also be able to make correct predictions. " Of all the above directions , only one is applied in LK and that is `the other planets posited in the sign'; here the sign and LK khana would be the same. Therefore at the level of application of techniques there is hardly any common ground between the two systems : LK and Nadi. If at all it might be just a few inches. [ 3 ] Another problem with the Nadi granth is that there are a host of spurious Nadi granths in the market. Any Nadi granth not disclosing the where abouts of its manuscript is a suspect. For example, Dev Keralam and Sapt-Rishi Nadi have disclosed the source of manuscripts and that they are preserved in the libraries. In the North too quite a few books have appeared in the name of Sanhitas eg . Bhrigu sanhita , Ravan sanhita etc. Again the source is suspect. It is only in a few very rare cases that the original Nadi or sanhita manuscripts reach the hands of the public for publication. Invariably the families which own these rare palm leaf manuscripts never allow any one to see them , let alone hand them over for publication. Therefore, except in a few cases , it is difficult to come across an authentic Nadi or sanhita book . But as far as the LK is concerned it is authentic all the way. As far as covering the middle ground between Vedic and LK is concerned , people like me have been doing it for quite some time now. I know quite a few LK puritans don't like it , but I am a protestant and not a catholic. Sincerely, Priya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Priya ji, Thanks again for providing us with such a detailed knowledgable mail. But here let me request you to kindly go through my mail once again. I am in no way trying to compare two great systems but trying to understand similarities between them. Please go through my previous mail once again and let me know your valuable feedback. Thanks once again, Best regards Jai --- bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya wrote: > > > Dear Nahata ji, > > There could be a lot of common ground between the > Lal Kitab and the > Nadi system , because both the systems draw from the > same source , > the Vedic tradition. But little or no help from the > Nadi system can > be had if working within the parameters of LK alone. > And here are my > reasons for saying so: > > [ 1 ] There are two kinds of Nadi systems known to > me. One , like Dev > Keralam , working on the nadiyansh ; and the other > working on rasi > and/or lagna system. Lets take up the first one. > Nadiyansh system , > as I had said in my previous mail , needs a lot of > accuracy in time > of birth , generally 48 seconds. A nadiyansh is > further divided into > four varna reducing it to 12 seconds. The nadiyansh > system heavily > draws upon the vedic system for its analysis > incorporating the > techniques of ashtakvarg and the divisional charts. > On the other hand > LK is a simple , non-technical system where none of > these techniques > are needed. Yes, the rationale of the predictions > made in the Nadi > system might also be understood through the LK > techniques. I haven't > tried that yet , but some day I wish to. > > [ 2 ] The second Nadi sytem based on rasi/lagna is > just like Vedic , > and applies Vedic principles . For how one should go > about predicting > using this system I quote from the Preface of Bhrigu > Nandi Nadi : > > " When considering results , the sign occupied by a > planet , the > lord of the sign , the other planets posited in that > sign, the > planets in the 7th and 12th to the planet ,whose > effects are being > considered , have to be taken into account for > assessing the results. > The exchange of signs of that planet with another is > also taken into > consideration. In addition the transit of Jupiter is > taken into > account. He gives the results of the sign he > transits. ….Take the > causative planet of the particular aspect you want > to study , > consider the adjacent houses of that planet and the > 7th house there > from ….you will also be able to make correct > predictions. " > > Of all the above directions , only one is applied in > LK and that > is `the other planets posited in the sign'; here the > sign and LK > khana would be the same. > > Therefore at the level of application of techniques > there is hardly > any common ground between the two systems : LK and > Nadi. If at all > it might be just a few inches. > > [ 3 ] Another problem with the Nadi granth is that > there are a host > of spurious Nadi granths in the market. Any Nadi > granth not > disclosing the where abouts of its manuscript is a > suspect. For > example, Dev Keralam and Sapt-Rishi Nadi have > disclosed the source of > manuscripts and that they are preserved in the > libraries. In the > North too quite a few books have appeared in the > name of Sanhitas > eg . Bhrigu sanhita , Ravan sanhita etc. Again the > source is suspect. > It is only in a few very rare cases that the > original Nadi or sanhita > manuscripts reach the hands of the public for > publication. Invariably > the families which own these rare palm leaf > manuscripts never allow > any one to see them , let alone hand them over for > publication. > > Therefore, except in a few cases , it is difficult > to come across an > authentic Nadi or sanhita book . But as far as the > LK is concerned it > is authentic all the way. > > As far as covering the middle ground between Vedic > and LK is > concerned , people like me have been doing it for > quite some time > now. I know quite a few LK puritans don't like it , > but I am a > protestant and not a catholic. > > Sincerely, > > Priya > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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