Sh. MR Gupta -- Analysis...Continuation

[Guest guest]

Gupta Jee,

First things first! Please, please, please there is no comparison with Pt Roop Chand Jee - he was like the tremendously powerful Sun and I am not even a jugnoo compared to him. Kindly do not embarrass me by putting me on the same pedestal as the great Maharishi that Pt Roop Chand Jee was. However, I am encouraged by the fact that Lalkitab based observations are proving to be accurate. I will, however, be really rewarded when the remedial measures make your life somewhat easier. That will take some time and patience; frankly, I do not expect immediate miracles but I do expect for situation to change for the good in the long run.

 

Sorry to know about the problems you've been facing. Actually, I should have been more careful in my analysis as I ignored the problem with your younger brother which is now obvious from the horoscope. Also, I acknowledge my mistake in interpretation - "aulaad der se paida ho yaa baad kee umar mein faaydaa pahunchaaye."

 

Let me ask you some more questions to find out how deep-rooted are the problems. Please answer these briefly:

1. Do you have cowRies (people used to gamble with these - these are also used for ornamentation), sea shells, conchs (shankh) etc. in your house or in your father's house?

2. Are silver utensils kept locked inside a box or cupboard such that these are not visible? Especially, I am looking for a round silver utensil plate/tumbler which may have possibly been gifted by your in-laws?

3. Is a devotional lamp (jyoti jalaanaa) lit in your house everyday?

4. Money plants and other wide-leafed plants planted inside the house?

5. Old watches and electronic items that are realy outdated or do not function but are sitting in the house anyways?

6. Does your daughter like to wear bright red, shining clothes?

7. By any chance a broken cot being kept in the house? May be on the rooftop?

8. Are your teeth okay? Aren't those black by any chance from inside or have been getting smaller (because of "grinding" when you sleep at night)

9. Which year were you married in? the 25th?

==

Let us start the remedial measures and I will prescribe these one by one and in installments.

First of all, let us take advantage of Moon which may also try to keep Rahu - Ketu in check. Based on your horoscope, your mother is the one person by whose blessings your own affairs can improve tremendously. Whether she is right or wrong, you must get into her good grace. Touch her feet everyday, ignore it if she says something unjustified. Treat her as The VIP of your life.

 

Next, get four copper nails and nail the four top corners of your bed ( If you use old-styled bed, then you need to nail the four paayes with one copper nail each.) If it is a palang styled bed, then you need to nail the four corners at the top. Gradually, you should start experiencing somewhat decent effects. Do this upaya during the daytime hours. You must pay for the nails. No special day is designated for this upaya.

 

In fact, Priya Jee just recently has written a very informative email in the last few days; please follow the directions given in there.

 

After you do this, then wait for about a week and then for 43 days in a row, feed a chapati to a cow, a dog and to crows - every day and for 43 days in a row. Your wife, father or your son, unmarried daughter can do this for you - you can interchange the duties. Again, no special day as to when you start this but it should be done before 2 PM, if possible.

 

If any adverse effect happens, then please stop the upaya immediately and let me know the details.

 

We will continue with this. Please keep in mind that good effects may be delayed by upto 100-120 days (thanks to the "professional expert" who had you do illogical upayas.) Please keep us posted in the forum about the progress (or, lack thereof.)

 

I wish you well.

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

 

 

M GUPTA <mrgee1956 wrote:

 

Respected Rajinder Bhatia ji,

 

Sadar Pranam,

 

Looking to the analysis given by you, I feel like Pt. Roop Chand ji himself is explaining the facts. Many a things asked are worth surprising. I have full hope that now correct treatment will be prescribed. As asked, I again give details of various problems being faced by me:

 

- during the last year on 4.01.2004 I met with an accident. Accident took place with a dog who came before me while driving a two wheeler suddenly. Second accident on 16.3.2004 while going to attend funeral of my friends father. I felt some super power stopped me to go to cremation ground. Several multiple fractures on my right hand and I was on bed for 3 months. Unwarranted expenditure agravated my financial problem. I had not given the list of accidents before 2004. During Oct 04, operation for stones faced by me. After that upay suggested by a Lal Kitab experts (not from this respected foroum) for peace, prosperity and daughter's marrige were performed. During these upays my younger brother on 13.12.2004 tried sucide attemps and doctors have left the hope. Only prayers to God given him life. On 7.01.2005, while on journey a car coming from opposite direction got burst his tyre and met with a major accident in which I escaped by a second

otherwise what I felt it was for me only to be a victim of this accident. On 15.1.05 my daughter performed a upay - 700 Lal Jwar buried in earth. On the same day, brother again made second sucidal attemps this time doctors refused to admit as they do not want to take risk. However, with great persuation doctors started treatment. Brother was in Coma. Again God given him life when whole family prayed. But brother was so depressed due to huge losses, he left the work. He already was habitual of Sharab and took at his place of work. He always quarreled with mother and got her bad-dua and never respect father. He became unemployed by not attending his shop. During this my son could not attend an interview for a good job. I had to loose a good proposal for my daughter due to late attending. My son's bike was stolen which was not insured. Persons who had given loans to my brother are pressing us hard for

payment of their debts. I also got loss in some share transanctions. I became a patient of depression due to which no concentration on work. Relation with my colleages were not coordial. My retired father and myself are somehow managing the affair my mother got ulcer in her leg which later turned in gagrene and it was feared some mishapening at any time. I feared of entering in my own house as I can not see the condition of my mother. She was also hospitalised and a long treatment was advised. Due to financial crunch I had to borrow money which is difficult to pay back. List is not just but I wish to reply other queries raised by yourgoodself.

- I have two sisters. Elder sister is also passing with almost same problems. One or other family member is going to hospital daily. Her husband were also at the verge of sucide due to some financial gurantees they had given and not in a position to fulfill. Younger sister is mentally retarded and was forcibly married by my mother out of caste and is living in a NARAK. She is dependent for her food on parents.No support from her husband. Her children are feeded by us. Elder bhua is no more. But all the children are well settled. Younger Bhuaji is a widow and a very simple life. My mausi is alive and she after her marriage except sorrow nothing seen. Her elder son is well established but younger son is suffering for the illness of her wife for the last 10 years.

 

- Regarding my son I apolige before you by giving incorrect date of birth.

his correct date of birth is 31.12.1981. time 10.55 pm Place Delhi

Due to lack of concentration this mistake was occured.

 

- My mother's eye sight is weak due to motiabind.

 

- Regarding my father I can say he is very simple man having very simple life and not much happiness he has seen. Only thing he always busy for the bread and butter for the family. At this age of 80 he is trying his best for feeding younger brother's family. My father is moraly supports me otherwise could not because of mother. I feel some Nazar or abhishap is not allowing our family to grow.

 

With kind regards

 

MR GUPTA

 

 

 

 

Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Gupta Jee,

Please see my comments in colored background. Everything that I have pointed to in my analysis comes from the various editions of the original LalKitab. LK enthusiasts can refer to the horoscope and figure out how I reached these conclusions; it will be really easy. Personally, till I am fully satisfied that I have really accounted for all the planets, I cannot suggest any remedial measures. So let's go through another minor exercise. I am very hopeful that LalKitab will be able to help you a lot.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

M GUPTA <mrgee1956 wrote:

 

 

Respected Rajinder Bhatia ji,

 

Thank you for taking so much pain for my problems. As asked, I reply all the queries one by one:-

I had not given any false evidence or cheated for my benefit at all. As all this is against my principles. I myself could bear the loss but can never make loss to others.

My purpose was to ascertain which planet/s went haywire such that you ended up having such losses/problems etc. I am glad that you didn't do anything unethical but it was necessary to ask you this question. As I had mentioned earlier, this was not supposed to doubt your integrity but one of the ways to ascertain mojoodaa haalaat. Something had to have happened. The tulsi maalaa and then the removal of the peepal tree all point to the culprit.

If you don't mind, can you give me a slightly more detailed account of the various problems you ran into? I'd like to match those with my reading and this will be a great learning exrcise for me.

- I have not seen after purchasing the house in my mothers name any peepal tree in the house. However, at the time of repairing of roof/ water tank there seems to be a new born peepal tree which at the time of repair disappeared or may have been removed by the labour working. Cemented water tank was removed and a Sintex tank was installed 3-4 years back.

- I was wearing a Tulsi mala which was broken last year and thereafter it was not used by me. Another thing which I am wearing a Tabij with prayer of Lord Shiva in Black thread for protecting me against Ketu Dasa from 1999 to Feb.2005. During all this mishappening I changed the colour of thread from Black to Red. A 15 number yantra made of silver is also given by Pt. Srimali during 2001-2002 when I was very much disturbed for wrong

transfer/posting in my service. At that time I was unaware of Lal Kitab. Yantra show 3 lines totaling either side give no.15.

 

These items (Tulsi, taveez etc.) point to another question - please tell me about your sister/s, bhuas and mausis (father's sister/s, mother's sister/s. Would you say that they happily settled? I think that the delay in your daughter's marriage also points to this. (Let me state this - Don't worry about her marriage.)

 

- I had 5 maternal uncles all died before time. Youngest had left the house and died unmarried due to involvement with bad society. Initially, position of sons of maternal uncles were good but now a days nobody is happy fighting for one issue or the other. Eldest uncle was also died at the age of 52-53 due to asthma problem. He had 4 sons. Initially they earned huge wealth but now a days seems to be ordinary.

 

That is what the planets point to.

 

- Yes condition of in laws been declining gradually healthwise/moneywise.

 

That is what LalKitab point to.

 

- Yes I had kidney stone problem for which operated on 8.10.2004 and also admitted in hospital for the same in Nov.2003. I am suffering from joint pains also as I gain weight during my left eye’s operation during 1994-95 .

 

That is what LalKitab point to.

 

- I have one son dob 31.12.2004 10.55 pm Delhi. I was married in Feb.1979,

 

Only one son and late birth - confirms the horoscope.

 

- Wife’s health is not very bad but she is patient of Thyroid and Migrane for a long.

 

- I reside on first floor and there is no such picture of sadhus/saints/sai baba. However, my mother reside on ground floor with my younger brother and there is a framed photo of Hanumanji in their Dallan which is in between the bedrooms of mother and brother and visible from the main gate while entering.

 

No problem - let it be that way.

 

...Relation with my mother is of silent type. My wife always respect her and serve her at all times. Though my mother several times unlike my wife on small matters but my wife always pacify her through her kind attention.

I suspected worse but I am glad that it is not as bad I thought. You didn't write anything about your mother's eye-sight. I think Pt Lalkitabee jee had also asked that question.

 

What about your father? Perhaps not much happiness/support etc from him either for last many years. Unable to help you for whichever reason?

 

- I hope this will help you for complete analysis.

- Regards,

 

- MR GUPTA

India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

[Guest guest]

Respected Bhatia jee,

 

Sadar Pranam,

 

I have expressed my feeling at the time of reading detailed interpretation given by you only as I was cheated earlier for the shake of earning money only. Like Pt. jee you are serving the Dukhi people like me without any expectation. I pray to almighty that this science grow more & more in hands like yours. I have tried my best to answer all the questions honestly. Further clarifications required by you are explained below:

 

- by pratha (rituals) of our family at the time birth of son 7 cowries in a mala is used after some puja after 1-1/2 months and one cowry is added after holi every year till

his marriage when this mala is given to kumhar (earthern pot maker). Mala is used at the time of puja only and thereafter it is kept for next puja.

 

- My mother has a shankh given by a sadhu about 60-65 years back. I also had purchased two while traveling sea area during the year 2001 while one was broken and put in the river last year. 2 more shankh were purchased in June 04 while visited Puri which were given to our Panditji for keeping them in a temply last week as I had developed some doubt in my mind towards keeping the same in house. Please advice about old shankhs.

 

- One silver glass presented by a friend is kept in the almira with its packing and not used till date since 1999.

 

We lit devotional lamp/diya in the morning by me, my wife and by daughter and in the evening by my wife. During Navratra puja Akhand (continous) Deepak/jyoti is lit for 9 days.

 

I could not understand by broken cot. If you mean a Bed , it is not there.

 

Yes at least 10 plants were there on the roof including money plants. Out of 6 were kept outside last month as some internal force compelled me to do so.

 

Old watches and electronics are either repaired or thrown if not in working order.

 

Yes my daughter like to wear bright shining clothes.

 

My teeth are okay except one in which root –canal treatment is given which is dead and changing color to black slowly. There is no problem of grinding during sleep.

 

I was Married in 23th year i.e. Feb.1979.

 

I have noted remedial measures and started following them with full faith.

 

Awaiting for further guidance.

 

Regards,

 

MR GUPTA

 

 

 

 

Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Gupta Jee,

First things first! Please, please, please there is no comparison with Pt Roop Chand Jee - he was like the tremendously powerful Sun and I am not even a jugnoo compared to him. Kindly do not embarrass me by putting me on the same pedestal as the great Maharishi that Pt Roop Chand Jee was. However, I am encouraged by the fact that Lalkitab based observations are proving to be accurate. I will, however, be really rewarded when the remedial measures make your life somewhat easier. That will take some time and patience; frankly, I do not expect immediate miracles but I do expect for situation to change for the good in the long run.

 

Sorry to know about the problems you've been facing. Actually, I should have been more careful in my analysis as I ignored the problem with your younger brother which is now obvious from the horoscope. Also, I acknowledge my mistake in interpretation - "aulaad der se paida ho yaa baad kee umar mein faaydaa pahunchaaye."

 

Let me ask you some more questions to find out how deep-rooted are the problems. Please answer these briefly:

1. Do you have cowRies (people used to gamble with these - these are also used for ornamentation), sea shells, conchs (shankh) etc. in your house or in your father's house?

2. Are silver utensils kept locked inside a box or cupboard such that these are not visible? Especially, I am looking for a round silver utensil plate/tumbler which may have possibly been gifted by your in-laws?

3. Is a devotional lamp (jyoti jalaanaa) lit in your house everyday?

4. Money plants and other wide-leafed plants planted inside the house?

5. Old watches and electronic items that are realy outdated or do not function but are sitting in the house anyways?

6. Does your daughter like to wear bright red, shining clothes?

7. By any chance a broken cot being kept in the house? May be on the rooftop?

8. Are your teeth okay? Aren't those black by any chance from inside or have been getting smaller (because of "grinding" when you sleep at night)

9. Which year were you married in? the 25th?

==

Let us start the remedial measures and I will prescribe these one by one and in installments.

First of all, let us take advantage of Moon which may also try to keep Rahu - Ketu in check. Based on your horoscope, your mother is the one person by whose blessings your own affairs can improve tremendously. Whether she is right or wrong, you must get into her good grace. Touch her feet everyday, ignore it if she says something unjustified. Treat her as The VIP of your life.

 

Next, get four copper nails and nail the four top corners of your bed ( If you use old-styled bed, then you need to nail the four paayes with one copper nail each.) If it is a palang styled bed, then you need to nail the four corners at the top. Gradually, you should start experiencing somewhat decent effects. Do this upaya during the daytime hours. You must pay for the nails. No special day is designated for this upaya.

 

In fact, Priya Jee just recently has written a very informative email in the last few days; please follow the directions given in there.

 

After you do this, then wait for about a week and then for 43 days in a row, feed a chapati to a cow, a dog and to crows - every day and for 43 days in a row. Your wife, father or your son, unmarried daughter can do this for you - you can interchange the duties. Again, no special day as to when you start this but it should be done before 2 PM, if possible.

 

If any adverse effect happens, then please stop the upaya immediately and let me know the details.

 

We will continue with this. Please keep in mind that good effects may be delayed by upto 100-120 days (thanks to the "professional expert" who had you do illogical upayas.) Please keep us posted in the forum about the progress (or, lack thereof.)

 

I wish you well.

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

 

 

M GUPTA <mrgee1956 wrote:

 

Respected Rajinder Bhatia ji,

 

Sadar Pranam,

 

Looking to the analysis given by you, I feel like Pt. Roop Chand ji himself is explaining the facts. Many a things asked are worth surprising. I have full hope that now correct treatment will be prescribed. As asked, I again give details of various problems being faced by me:

 

- during the last year on 4.01.2004 I met with an accident. Accident took place with a dog who came before me while driving a two wheeler suddenly. Second accident on 16.3.2004 while going to attend funeral of my friends father. I felt some super power stopped me to go to cremation ground. Several multiple fractures on my right hand and I was on bed for 3 months. Unwarranted expenditure agravated my financial problem. I had not given the list of accidents before 2004. During Oct 04, operation for stones faced by me. After that upay suggested by a Lal Kitab experts (not from this respected foroum) for peace, prosperity and daughter's marrige were performed. During these upays my younger brother on 13.12.2004 tried sucide attemps and doctors have left the hope. Only prayers to God given him life. On 7.01.2005, while on journey a car coming from opposite direction got burst his tyre and met with a major accident in which I escaped by a second

otherwise what I felt it was for me only to be a victim of this accident. On 15.1.05 my daughter performed a upay - 700 Lal Jwar buried in earth. On the same day, brother again made second sucidal attemps this time doctors refused to admit as they do not want to take risk. However, with great persuation doctors started treatment. Brother was in Coma. Again God given him life when whole family prayed. But brother was so depressed due to huge losses, he left the work. He already was habitual of Sharab and took at his place of work. He always quarreled with mother and got her bad-dua and never respect father. He became unemployed by not attending his shop. During this my son could not attend an interview for a good job. I had to loose a good proposal for my daughter due to late attending. My son's bike was stolen which was not insured. Persons who had given loans to my brother are pressing us hard for

payment of their debts. I also got loss in some share transanctions. I became a patient of depression due to which no concentration on work. Relation with my colleages were not coordial. My retired father and myself are somehow managing the affair my mother got ulcer in her leg which later turned in gagrene and it was feared some mishapening at any time. I feared of entering in my own house as I can not see the condition of my mother. She was also hospitalised and a long treatment was advised. Due to financial crunch I had to borrow money which is difficult to pay back. List is not just but I wish to reply other queries raised by yourgoodself.

- I have two sisters. Elder sister is also passing with almost same problems. One or other family member is going to hospital daily. Her husband were also at the verge of sucide due to some financial gurantees they had given and not in a position to fulfill. Younger sister is mentally retarded and was forcibly married by my mother out of caste and is living in a NARAK. She is dependent for her food on parents.No support from her husband. Her children are feeded by us. Elder bhua is no more. But all the children are well settled. Younger Bhuaji is a widow and a very simple life. My mausi is alive and she after her marriage except sorrow nothing seen. Her elder son is well established but younger son is suffering for the illness of her wife for the last 10 years.

 

- Regarding my son I apolige before you by giving incorrect date of birth.

his correct date of birth is 31.12.1981. time 10.55 pm Place Delhi

Due to lack of concentration this mistake was occured.

 

- My mother's eye sight is weak due to motiabind.

 

- Regarding my father I can say he is very simple man having very simple life and not much happiness he has seen. Only thing he always busy for the bread and butter for the family. At this age of 80 he is trying his best for feeding younger brother's family. My father is moraly supports me otherwise could not because of mother. I feel some Nazar or abhishap is not allowing our family to grow.

 

With kind regards

 

MR GUPTA

 

 

 

 

Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Gupta Jee,

Please see my comments in colored background. Everything that I have pointed to in my analysis comes from the various editions of the original LalKitab. LK enthusiasts can refer to the horoscope and figure out how I reached these conclusions; it will be really easy. Personally, till I am fully satisfied that I have really accounted for all the planets, I cannot suggest any remedial measures. So let's go through another minor exercise. I am very hopeful that LalKitab will be able to help you a lot.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

M GUPTA <mrgee1956 wrote:

 

 

Respected Rajinder Bhatia ji,

 

Thank you for taking so much pain for my problems. As asked, I reply all the queries one by one:-

I had not given any false evidence or cheated for my benefit at all. As all this is against my principles. I myself could bear the loss but can never make loss to others.

My purpose was to ascertain which planet/s went haywire such that you ended up having such losses/problems etc. I am glad that you didn't do anything unethical but it was necessary to ask you this question. As I had mentioned earlier, this was not supposed to doubt your integrity but one of the ways to ascertain mojoodaa haalaat. Something had to have happened. The tulsi maalaa and then the removal of the peepal tree all point to the culprit.

If you don't mind, can you give me a slightly more detailed account of the various problems you ran into? I'd like to match those with my reading and this will be a great learning exrcise for me.

- I have not seen after purchasing the house in my mothers name any peepal tree in the house. However, at the time of repairing of roof/ water tank there seems to be a new born peepal tree which at the time of repair disappeared or may have been removed by the labour working. Cemented water tank was removed and a Sintex tank was installed 3-4 years back.

- I was wearing a Tulsi mala which was broken last year and thereafter it was not used by me. Another thing which I am wearing a Tabij with prayer of Lord Shiva in Black thread for protecting me against Ketu Dasa from 1999 to Feb.2005. During all this mishappening I changed the colour of thread from Black to Red. A 15 number yantra made of silver is also given by Pt. Srimali during 2001-2002 when I was very much disturbed for wrong

transfer/posting in my service. At that time I was unaware of Lal Kitab. Yantra show 3 lines totaling either side give no.15.

 

These items (Tulsi, taveez etc.) point to another question - please tell me about your sister/s, bhuas and mausis (father's sister/s, mother's sister/s. Would you say that they happily settled? I think that the delay in your daughter's marriage also points to this. (Let me state this - Don't worry about her marriage.)

 

- I had 5 maternal uncles all died before time. Youngest had left the house and died unmarried due to involvement with bad society. Initially, position of sons of maternal uncles were good but now a days nobody is happy fighting for one issue or the other. Eldest uncle was also died at the age of 52-53 due to asthma problem. He had 4 sons. Initially they earned huge wealth but now a days seems to be ordinary.

 

That is what the planets point to.

 

- Yes condition of in laws been declining gradually healthwise/moneywise.

 

That is what LalKitab point to.

 

- Yes I had kidney stone problem for which operated on 8.10.2004 and also admitted in hospital for the same in Nov.2003. I am suffering from joint pains also as I gain weight during my left eye’s operation during 1994-95 .

 

That is what LalKitab point to.

 

- I have one son dob 31.12.2004 10.55 pm Delhi. I was married in Feb.1979,

 

Only one son and late birth - confirms the horoscope.

 

- Wife’s health is not very bad but she is patient of Thyroid and Migrane for a long.

 

- I reside on first floor and there is no such picture of sadhus/saints/sai baba. However, my mother reside on ground floor with my younger brother and there is a framed photo of Hanumanji in their Dallan which is in between the bedrooms of mother and brother and visible from the main gate while entering.

 

No problem - let it be that way.

 

...Relation with my mother is of silent type. My wife always respect her and serve her at all times. Though my mother several times unlike my wife on small matters but my wife always pacify her through her kind attention.

I suspected worse but I am glad that it is not as bad I thought. You didn't write anything about your mother's eye-sight. I think Pt Lalkitabee jee had also asked that question.

 

What about your father? Perhaps not much happiness/support etc from him either for last many years. Unable to help you for whichever reason?

 

- I hope this will help you for complete analysis.

- Regards,

 

- MR GUPTA

India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

 

India Matrimony: Find your life partner

online.