Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Dear Nishant Ji and Bhooshanpriya ji, Which is the right way to analyse the chart? Chandra lagna or lagna? When we analyse my husband's chart with Lagna (vrischika) the fourth house lord sani is in Rahu star in the 7th house. In a way, does this also indicate foreign residence? The mercury dasha started in Aug 1989 based on 365 days and lahiri ayanamsa. Nishanji how did you get 1991 as the start of budha dasha. Would appreciate your reply and any other lal kitab remedies that can be performed in a this country. Thanks and best regards Lalithahk lalkitab , " lalithahk " <lalithahk> wrote: > > > Dear Nishant Ji, > > Thanks for your response. First a small clarification. The query > came from me and not Mr.Puneet Pandey. I sent another email > clarifying this, but somehow it never appeared in this board. > > Now coming to your analysis. I would have been very happy if we > were in UAE, but we are in Saudi Arabia. My husband first went to > Saudi during the 2nd half of 1988, which would put him in Sani dasha > Guru Bhukthi. From them on till now, his career has been marked by > lot of dejections, dissatisfaction, loss of job etc. But somehow > each change in job was to a higher level position and salary wise. > During 1991 Aug to 2001 Sep he was lucky to get a job in Bahrain, > which is by far a better place to live in. From Nov 2001, he is > back in Riyadh. > > In the south, there are number of astrologers who analyse from > Chandra Lagna. I am not an expert in astrology, but there seems to > be some credibility to it. > > His mother is Swathi nakshatra (a Rahu star) Rahu in the 4th house > First issue - Daughter is Makha star(Kethu) - 11th house lord Guru > in Mesha and Kethu represents Mars > Second issue - Son is the same star as father and he was born in > Saudi. > I am Revathi star > > May be I am being too imaginative. > > One another thing you might note that the Lagna could be Vrschika or > Dhanus depending on which ayanamsa you use (Lahiri vs Raman). If > you use Raman ayanamsa Moon will move to Meena. > > If there is any other details you want to help your analysis > further, i can share that. > > My husband is always tallking about going back to India and setting > up a business. Now that Kethu dasha is about to start. Is this > something i should encourage? Kethu is in the 10th from Moon and > its dispositor Mars is in 8th, retrograde (as per Nadi, i think one > should consider that Mars is in the 7th from Moon?) > > Thanks once again and best regards to everyone. > > Lalithahk > > > -- In lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Punit ji, > > > > Well you really have an interesting query. > > I read the given chart and I'll try to answer the question using > my > > self gained knowledge , skills, experiences in astrology field. > > > > This chart is one example about the problem which has really > puzzled > > me all through my learning of astrology; that is – > > > > should we consider the lagna kundli or chandra kundli or surya > kundli > > in predicting the timing of events and even the events themselves ? > > > > I had many discussions with expert astrologers , young and > > experienced alike who really were of one opinion that lagna should > be > > given the extreme importance as its changes every two hours while > > chandra remains in one sign for two days, and Surya lagna cant be > > taken anyways. > > > > Well this verdict seemed too superficial to me because I had gone > > through many astrological classics, and also books by eminent > > astrologers of 20 th century & most authentic of them suggested > the > > use of lagna or chandra lagna or surya lagna for analysis of > charts > > by keeping in mind the strength of all three; ie which ever is > > strongest of three lagnas should be given top priority. > > > > In my own horoscope I often get correct results with my chandra > and > > surya lagna for they are both in same sign and this lagna is > stronger > > than my birth lagna. And one more thing, in using this lagna rank > > method I was led by my intuition as well. > > > > Anyways lets come to the problem— > > > > This chart as I said matches with past events correctly when we > > consider the chandra lagna rather than janma lagna/surya lagna , > as > > chandra lagna is strongest . > > > > So I present my analysis with chandra lagna > > > > native is away from his motherland, this can be easily confirmed > as > > Rahu is in 4 th house(from moon) , now Rahu we all know has nature > of > > separating the native from things governed by the house he > occupies, > > and 4 th governs motherland. > > > > Rahu also governs Muslim countries, this also confirms as native > is > > in UAE, a Muslim countries. Native is undergoing mercury dasha > since > > 1991 and I analyse that he must have left India during mercury > dasha > > as he rules 5 th & 8 th house(of travel) and sitting in 12 th > house > > (of settlement abroad.), mercury mostly gives the results of house > he > > occupies. > > > > Now Rahu is aspecting 8 th & 12 th house and mercury ,and > impeling > > mercury to give these effects. > > > > So its done that we've got the past events matching our analysis, > so > > lets proceed with main question --- > > > > should the native use pictures or items of camels.? > > > > Now I shall use my own knowledge here, Rahu represents deserts and > > Ketu is the carrier of Rahu, Ketu is also the ship who sails over > > seas, so I give my own concept here that camel, the ship of desert > > who helps us to cross the deserts, is signified by Ketu. > > > > Also, Ketu represents all quadrupeds, who are used as pets, so > camel > > must be Ketu's representative(I can offer more explainations on > this > > but length of mail prevents me from doing this). > > > > Ketu is in profession house in sign of Mars, so he is acting as > agent > > of Mars and causes undesirable changes in native's career, undue > > setbacks, delays in results etc. > > > > Now we all know according to jyotish and vaastu ,if some planet is > > affecting us badly then we should remove all things signified by > that > > planet from ous house and also we should not use those things, > thus > > if the native removes the pictures of camel and items made of > camel > > skin etc then he will surely notice a positive change in his > > environment and in his life. > > > > I hope I was able to answer the question satisfactorily according > to > > my limited knowledge. > > > > Sincerely > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey > > <punitastrologer> > > > wrote: > > > Dear learned members, > > > > > > I came across the following interesting discussion about placing > > > pictures of camels in our homes and its bad effects in certain > > cases. > > > > > > We are living in Saudi Arabia and we are having couple of camel > > > (ship of the desert) things in our house. My husband has Mars > ® > > > in Virgo in the eight house from Moon and 11th house from > Lagna. > > He > > > is presently having a tough time in his career. Should we > remove > > > the camel from our home or having camel in a desert country is > good? > > > > > > My husbands details are as under: > > > Place of birth: Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India > > > Date of Birth: 5th Feb 1965 > > > Time of birth: 3.07 AM > > > > > > Thanks in advance and best regards > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes, > > > > > > > > Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I have > no > > > idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest anything > to > > > anyone with my half knowledge. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hello lalitha ji, Well mam you know quite a lot about reading charts, we appreciate knowledgeable people like you. Yes you were right mercury dasha started in 1989, well I got little bit wrong in my calculation of dasha , he went abroad during yogini dasha Sankata,bhukti Bhadrika. Rahu was transiting over 4 th house. You asked what is the right way, well I prefer, using that lagna which is strongest, I cant say about other experts, each one has different methodology . Your husband is thinking right, he will prosper very well in India during Ketu dasha, but may suffer some health problems. You can try following remedies in that country(if you can)--- 1.He should wear a Yellow Sapphire 3.5 carats, in gold ring, right hand ring finger on Sunday. 2.Chant the following mantra on a tulsi mala 30 times daily- " Kleen Krishnaye Govindaye, Gopi Jan Vallabhaye Swaha. " Sincerely NISHANT lalkitab , " lalithahk " <lalithahk> wrote: > > > Dear Nishant Ji and Bhooshanpriya ji, > > Which is the right way to analyse the chart? Chandra lagna or lagna? > When we analyse my husband's chart with Lagna (vrischika) the fourth > house lord sani is in Rahu star in the 7th house. In a way, does > this also indicate foreign residence? > > The mercury dasha started in Aug 1989 based on 365 days and lahiri > ayanamsa. Nishanji how did you get 1991 as the start of budha dasha. > > Would appreciate your reply and any other lal kitab remedies that > can be performed in a this country. > > Thanks and best regards > > Lalithahk > > lalkitab , " lalithahk " <lalithahk> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nishant Ji, > > > > Thanks for your response. First a small clarification. The query > > came from me and not Mr.Puneet Pandey. I sent another email > > clarifying this, but somehow it never appeared in this board. > > > > Now coming to your analysis. I would have been very happy if we > > were in UAE, but we are in Saudi Arabia. My husband first went to > > Saudi during the 2nd half of 1988, which would put him in Sani > dasha > > Guru Bhukthi. From them on till now, his career has been marked > by > > lot of dejections, dissatisfaction, loss of job etc. But somehow > > each change in job was to a higher level position and salary wise. > > During 1991 Aug to 2001 Sep he was lucky to get a job in Bahrain, > > which is by far a better place to live in. From Nov 2001, he is > > back in Riyadh. > > > > In the south, there are number of astrologers who analyse from > > Chandra Lagna. I am not an expert in astrology, but there seems > to > > be some credibility to it. > > > > His mother is Swathi nakshatra (a Rahu star) Rahu in the 4th house > > First issue - Daughter is Makha star(Kethu) - 11th house lord Guru > > in Mesha and Kethu represents Mars > > Second issue - Son is the same star as father and he was born in > > Saudi. > > I am Revathi star > > > > May be I am being too imaginative. > > > > One another thing you might note that the Lagna could be Vrschika > or > > Dhanus depending on which ayanamsa you use (Lahiri vs Raman). If > > you use Raman ayanamsa Moon will move to Meena. > > > > If there is any other details you want to help your analysis > > further, i can share that. > > > > My husband is always tallking about going back to India and > setting > > up a business. Now that Kethu dasha is about to start. Is this > > something i should encourage? Kethu is in the 10th from Moon and > > its dispositor Mars is in 8th, retrograde (as per Nadi, i think > one > > should consider that Mars is in the 7th from Moon?) > > > > Thanks once again and best regards to everyone. > > > > Lalithahk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " > <nishant_aryan> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Punit ji, > > > > > > Well you really have an interesting query. > > > I read the given chart and I'll try to answer the question using > > my > > > self gained knowledge , skills, experiences in astrology field. > > > > > > This chart is one example about the problem which has really > > puzzled > > > me all through my learning of astrology; that is – > > > > > > should we consider the lagna kundli or chandra kundli or surya > > kundli > > > in predicting the timing of events and even the events > themselves ? > > > > > > I had many discussions with expert astrologers , young and > > > experienced alike who really were of one opinion that lagna > should > > be > > > given the extreme importance as its changes every two hours > while > > > chandra remains in one sign for two days, and Surya lagna cant > be > > > taken anyways. > > > > > > Well this verdict seemed too superficial to me because I had > gone > > > through many astrological classics, and also books by eminent > > > astrologers of 20 th century & most authentic of them suggested > > the > > > use of lagna or chandra lagna or surya lagna for analysis of > > charts > > > by keeping in mind the strength of all three; ie which ever is > > > strongest of three lagnas should be given top priority. > > > > > > In my own horoscope I often get correct results with my chandra > > and > > > surya lagna for they are both in same sign and this lagna is > > stronger > > > than my birth lagna. And one more thing, in using this lagna > rank > > > method I was led by my intuition as well. > > > > > > Anyways lets come to the problem— > > > > > > This chart as I said matches with past events correctly when we > > > consider the chandra lagna rather than janma lagna/surya lagna , > > as > > > chandra lagna is strongest . > > > > > > So I present my analysis with chandra lagna > > > > > > native is away from his motherland, this can be easily confirmed > > as > > > Rahu is in 4 th house(from moon) , now Rahu we all know has > nature > > of > > > separating the native from things governed by the house he > > occupies, > > > and 4 th governs motherland. > > > > > > Rahu also governs Muslim countries, this also confirms as native > > is > > > in UAE, a Muslim countries. Native is undergoing mercury dasha > > since > > > 1991 and I analyse that he must have left India during mercury > > dasha > > > as he rules 5 th & 8 th house(of travel) and sitting in 12 th > > house > > > (of settlement abroad.), mercury mostly gives the results of > house > > he > > > occupies. > > > > > > Now Rahu is aspecting 8 th & 12 th house and mercury ,and > > impeling > > > mercury to give these effects. > > > > > > So its done that we've got the past events matching our > analysis, > > so > > > lets proceed with main question --- > > > > > > should the native use pictures or items of camels.? > > > > > > Now I shall use my own knowledge here, Rahu represents deserts > and > > > Ketu is the carrier of Rahu, Ketu is also the ship who sails > over > > > seas, so I give my own concept here that camel, the ship of > desert > > > who helps us to cross the deserts, is signified by Ketu. > > > > > > Also, Ketu represents all quadrupeds, who are used as pets, so > > camel > > > must be Ketu's representative(I can offer more explainations on > > this > > > but length of mail prevents me from doing this). > > > > > > Ketu is in profession house in sign of Mars, so he is acting as > > agent > > > of Mars and causes undesirable changes in native's career, undue > > > setbacks, delays in results etc. > > > > > > Now we all know according to jyotish and vaastu ,if some planet > is > > > affecting us badly then we should remove all things signified by > > that > > > planet from ous house and also we should not use those things, > > thus > > > if the native removes the pictures of camel and items made of > > camel > > > skin etc then he will surely notice a positive change in his > > > environment and in his life. > > > > > > I hope I was able to answer the question satisfactorily > according > > to > > > my limited knowledge. > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey > > > <punitastrologer> > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear learned members, > > > > > > > > I came across the following interesting discussion about > placing > > > > pictures of camels in our homes and its bad effects in certain > > > cases. > > > > > > > > We are living in Saudi Arabia and we are having couple of > camel > > > > (ship of the desert) things in our house. My husband has Mars > > ® > > > > in Virgo in the eight house from Moon and 11th house from > > Lagna. > > > He > > > > is presently having a tough time in his career. Should we > > remove > > > > the camel from our home or having camel in a desert country is > > good? > > > > > > > > My husbands details are as under: > > > > Place of birth: Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India > > > > Date of Birth: 5th Feb 1965 > > > > Time of birth: 3.07 AM > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance and best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes, > > > > > > > > > > Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I > have > > no > > > > idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest > anything > > to > > > > anyone with my half knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Dear Nishant Ji and Bhooshanpriya Ji, Nishantji thanks you for your reply. My knowledge of astrology is limited. I always believe that for any serious stuff in any field it is always right to go to the experts/specialists. If you have time please advise me on business in what items will be favorable. Also what are the health related problems. Kethu is in lagna and 10th from chandra lagana. Kethu aspected by Saturn in the 4th. Kethu represents Mars occupying 11th from Lagna and 8th from Chandra lagna. Sani is in star of Rahu in the 7th and Kethu in Budha lord of 8th in 3rd. I am confused on how to analysis this. I am sending a separate query to the board on consultation. I would also appreciate if Bhooshanpriya can add write a few lines. I really liked her logical way of analysis. Thanks and best regards Lalithahk lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> wrote: > > > > > Hello lalitha ji, > Well mam you know quite a lot about reading charts, we appreciate > knowledgeable people like you. > > Yes you were right mercury dasha started in 1989, well I got little > bit wrong in my calculation of dasha , he went abroad during yogini > dasha Sankata,bhukti Bhadrika. > Rahu was transiting over 4 th house. > > You asked what is the right way, well I prefer, using that lagna > which is strongest, I cant say about other experts, each one has > different methodology . > > Your husband is thinking right, he will prosper very well in India > during Ketu dasha, but may suffer some health problems. > > You can try following remedies in that country(if you can)--- > > 1.He should wear a Yellow Sapphire 3.5 carats, in gold ring, right > hand ring finger on Sunday. > 2.Chant the following mantra on a tulsi mala 30 times daily- > > " Kleen Krishnaye Govindaye, Gopi Jan Vallabhaye Swaha. " > > > Sincerely > > NISHANT > > > > > lalkitab , " lalithahk " <lalithahk> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nishant Ji and Bhooshanpriya ji, > > > > Which is the right way to analyse the chart? Chandra lagna or > lagna? > > When we analyse my husband's chart with Lagna (vrischika) the > fourth > > house lord sani is in Rahu star in the 7th house. In a way, does > > this also indicate foreign residence? > > > > The mercury dasha started in Aug 1989 based on 365 days and lahiri > > ayanamsa. Nishanji how did you get 1991 as the start of budha > dasha. > > > > Would appreciate your reply and any other lal kitab remedies that > > can be performed in a this country. > > > > Thanks and best regards > > > > Lalithahk > > > > lalkitab , " lalithahk " <lalithahk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Nishant Ji, > > > > > > Thanks for your response. First a small clarification. The > query > > > came from me and not Mr.Puneet Pandey. I sent another email > > > clarifying this, but somehow it never appeared in this board. > > > > > > Now coming to your analysis. I would have been very happy if we > > > were in UAE, but we are in Saudi Arabia. My husband first went > to > > > Saudi during the 2nd half of 1988, which would put him in Sani > > dasha > > > Guru Bhukthi. From them on till now, his career has been marked > > by > > > lot of dejections, dissatisfaction, loss of job etc. But somehow > > > each change in job was to a higher level position and salary > wise. > > > During 1991 Aug to 2001 Sep he was lucky to get a job in Bahrain, > > > which is by far a better place to live in. From Nov 2001, he is > > > back in Riyadh. > > > > > > In the south, there are number of astrologers who analyse from > > > Chandra Lagna. I am not an expert in astrology, but there seems > > to > > > be some credibility to it. > > > > > > His mother is Swathi nakshatra (a Rahu star) Rahu in the 4th house > > > First issue - Daughter is Makha star(Kethu) - 11th house lord > Guru > > > in Mesha and Kethu represents Mars > > > Second issue - Son is the same star as father and he was born in > > > Saudi. > > > I am Revathi star > > > > > > May be I am being too imaginative. > > > > > > One another thing you might note that the Lagna could be Vrschika > > or > > > Dhanus depending on which ayanamsa you use (Lahiri vs Raman). If > > > you use Raman ayanamsa Moon will move to Meena. > > > > > > If there is any other details you want to help your analysis > > > further, i can share that. > > > > > > My husband is always tallking about going back to India and > > setting > > > up a business. Now that Kethu dasha is about to start. Is this > > > something i should encourage? Kethu is in the 10th from Moon and > > > its dispositor Mars is in 8th, retrograde (as per Nadi, i think > > one > > > should consider that Mars is in the 7th from Moon?) > > > > > > Thanks once again and best regards to everyone. > > > > > > Lalithahk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " > > <nishant_aryan> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Punit ji, > > > > > > > > Well you really have an interesting query. > > > > I read the given chart and I'll try to answer the question > using > > > my > > > > self gained knowledge , skills, experiences in astrology field. > > > > > > > > This chart is one example about the problem which has really > > > puzzled > > > > me all through my learning of astrology; that is – > > > > > > > > should we consider the lagna kundli or chandra kundli or surya > > > kundli > > > > in predicting the timing of events and even the events > > themselves ? > > > > > > > > I had many discussions with expert astrologers , young and > > > > experienced alike who really were of one opinion that lagna > > should > > > be > > > > given the extreme importance as its changes every two hours > > while > > > > chandra remains in one sign for two days, and Surya lagna cant > > be > > > > taken anyways. > > > > > > > > Well this verdict seemed too superficial to me because I had > > gone > > > > through many astrological classics, and also books by eminent > > > > astrologers of 20 th century & most authentic of them > suggested > > > the > > > > use of lagna or chandra lagna or surya lagna for analysis of > > > charts > > > > by keeping in mind the strength of all three; ie which ever is > > > > strongest of three lagnas should be given top priority. > > > > > > > > In my own horoscope I often get correct results with my chandra > > > and > > > > surya lagna for they are both in same sign and this lagna is > > > stronger > > > > than my birth lagna. And one more thing, in using this lagna > > rank > > > > method I was led by my intuition as well. > > > > > > > > Anyways lets come to the problem— > > > > > > > > This chart as I said matches with past events correctly when we > > > > consider the chandra lagna rather than janma lagna/surya > lagna , > > > as > > > > chandra lagna is strongest . > > > > > > > > So I present my analysis with chandra lagna > > > > > > > > native is away from his motherland, this can be easily > confirmed > > > as > > > > Rahu is in 4 th house(from moon) , now Rahu we all know has > > nature > > > of > > > > separating the native from things governed by the house he > > > occupies, > > > > and 4 th governs motherland. > > > > > > > > Rahu also governs Muslim countries, this also confirms as > native > > > is > > > > in UAE, a Muslim countries. Native is undergoing mercury dasha > > > since > > > > 1991 and I analyse that he must have left India during mercury > > > dasha > > > > as he rules 5 th & 8 th house(of travel) and sitting in 12 th > > > house > > > > (of settlement abroad.), mercury mostly gives the results of > > house > > > he > > > > occupies. > > > > > > > > Now Rahu is aspecting 8 th & 12 th house and mercury ,and > > > impeling > > > > mercury to give these effects. > > > > > > > > So its done that we've got the past events matching our > > analysis, > > > so > > > > lets proceed with main question --- > > > > > > > > should the native use pictures or items of camels.? > > > > > > > > Now I shall use my own knowledge here, Rahu represents deserts > > and > > > > Ketu is the carrier of Rahu, Ketu is also the ship who sails > > over > > > > seas, so I give my own concept here that camel, the ship of > > desert > > > > who helps us to cross the deserts, is signified by Ketu. > > > > > > > > Also, Ketu represents all quadrupeds, who are used as pets, so > > > camel > > > > must be Ketu's representative(I can offer more explainations on > > > this > > > > but length of mail prevents me from doing this). > > > > > > > > Ketu is in profession house in sign of Mars, so he is acting as > > > agent > > > > of Mars and causes undesirable changes in native's career, > undue > > > > setbacks, delays in results etc. > > > > > > > > Now we all know according to jyotish and vaastu ,if some planet > > is > > > > affecting us badly then we should remove all things signified > by > > > that > > > > planet from ous house and also we should not use those things, > > > thus > > > > if the native removes the pictures of camel and items made of > > > camel > > > > skin etc then he will surely notice a positive change in his > > > > environment and in his life. > > > > > > > > I hope I was able to answer the question satisfactorily > > according > > > to > > > > my limited knowledge. > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey > > > > <punitastrologer> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear learned members, > > > > > > > > > > I came across the following interesting discussion about > > placing > > > > > pictures of camels in our homes and its bad effects in > certain > > > > cases. > > > > > > > > > > We are living in Saudi Arabia and we are having couple of > > camel > > > > > (ship of the desert) things in our house. My husband has > Mars > > > ® > > > > > in Virgo in the eight house from Moon and 11th house from > > > Lagna. > > > > He > > > > > is presently having a tough time in his career. Should we > > > remove > > > > > the camel from our home or having camel in a desert country > is > > > good? > > > > > > > > > > My husbands details are as under: > > > > > Place of birth: Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India > > > > > Date of Birth: 5th Feb 1965 > > > > > Time of birth: 3.07 AM > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance and best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I > > have > > > no > > > > > idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest > > anything > > > to > > > > > anyone with my half knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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