Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Dear Nishant ji, Your understanding of the Lal Kitab grammar is entirely wrong. Please read the book carefully before expressing your views on the LK system. You have said in an answer to Mr Saha's question [ given below] >>> > " Yes if Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > and Saturn in Mesh we shall consider that Sun is in > third house , jupiter in seventh and saturn in > First house resp. " That is wrong. If sun is placed in Mithun it doesnot automatically mean that it is in the third house. It will be in the third house only if the Ascendant is Mesh. If the Lagna is mithun and the sun is posited there it would then be considered in the first house. The planets in the LK kundali remain where they are ,the house they are placed in also remains the same. It is only the rasi which is erased and the house # 1 { or khana as it is called }is marked as mesh rasi. Therefore unlike the vedic astrology , the first house is always mesh ..the second vrishabh and so on. This system of erasing the rasi and marking the houses starting with mesh for the first house seems to be with a purpose to give importance to the house and not to the rasi. Secondly , this marking helps the LK students remember the two other classifications [ 1 ] of the owner of the house and [ 2 ] whose pakka house is that. Sincerely, priya lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> wrote: > > > > hello saha ji, > > Yes, as per Lal Kitab 1st house always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen > rashi.It uses system of fixed signs. > > Lal Kitab is not much different from vedic astrological system which > considers moving signs, but in actual sense it considers KAAL PURUSHA > kundli as its operating system.somewhat similar to Ratnaakars or > Chintamanis. > > Yes if Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > and Saturn in Mesh we shall consider that Sun is in > third house , jupiter in seventh and saturn in > First house resp. > > well again I say that its not just about placements of planets in > different houses ,because a particular planet in a particular house > may be positive or negative,more positive or more negative, it > depends as Lal Kitab also uses its special aspects and combinations > which are different from vedic astrology , to ascertain the true > nature of a planet in the given chart. > > This is the uniqueness of Lal Kitab. > > Now Saturn in 1st house is neecha & bad according to lal kitab as > its in mesh ( but if its tula lagna as per by vedic sytem the same > saturn is exalted), now this means good results of saturn only if 7th > or 10th house is occupied by some friend of Saturn but if 10th house > by foe then disaster for the native so we must have remedies for this > Saturn. > > If jupiter is in 7th, then this jupiter being inimical to saturn > will make saturn 3 times weaker in effect, now it will mean Pitra Rin > for the native. > > hence like this other planets should be analysed. > > > Sincerely > > NISHANT > > > lalkitab , Ananta Saha <anant_sahain> > wrote: > > > > Hello Nishant > > > > I have a question. As per lal Kitab does 1st house > > always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen rashi. > > > > If Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > and Satern in Mesh shall we consider that Sun is in > > third house , jupiter in seventh and satern is in > > First? > > > > How we will understand sun/jupiter/satern is good or > > bad for this native? > > > > Thanks in advance: saha > > --- " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello all, on the request of many people i'm > > > beginning a series of > > > articles on---> > > > > > > " How to propitiate various planets by remedies given > > > in LAL KITAB " > > > > > > In this series the 1st planet dealt is obviously > > > SUN:LORD VISHNU,the > > > Guardian. > > > > > > > > > The remedies are general for negative effects > > > produced by Sun > > > according to its placement in various > > > Houses/Bhavas,no combinations > > > or aspects are employed here, these remedies have no > > > negative results > > > as other special remedies for different combinations > > > given in LAL > > > KITAB, so anyone can practice and benefit from these > > > remedies.. > > > > > > 1st part will be Sun's placement in 1st six > > > houses,the next part of > > > the article will deal with the next six houses.. > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 1st HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > a)Install a water tap/pump for underground water in > > > your ancestral > > > house. > > > b)Reciting or listening to Harivansha Puran will > > > also be useful. > > > c)Don't have sex with wife during the day time. > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 2nd HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > a)Keep donating on sundays almonds ,coconut, & > > > mustard oil to places > > > of worship. > > > b)Avoid disputes regarding wealth, property and > > > women. > > > c)Dont accept products made of wheat ,barley, silver > > > and milk for free > > > (as gifts) from any one. > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 3rd HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > a)Practice good moral conduct and avoid immoral & > > > evil actions. > > > b)Obtain blessings of elders by touching their feet. > > > c)Serve the guests with Kheer made of rice & > > > milk,use some coconut > > > and almonds as well in Kheer preparation. > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 4th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > a)Give alms to needy people on Sundays. > > > b)Invite ten blind men to your home and distribute > > > them food . > > > c)Dont do business of iron and wood. > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 5th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > a)Install gas burner in kitchen towards the eastern > > > side of your home. > > > b)Offer mustard oil through copper container to > > > rising Sun > > > continuously for 43 days beginning from your > > > birthday.See that the > > > drops of oil fall on kachcha part of ground. > > > > > > SUN IN 6th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > a)Feed red faced monkeys with wheat or gur on > > > sundays. > > > b)Always keep holy water from sacred rivers like > > > Gangajal in your > > > home. > > > c)Keep inviting friends to your home specially on > > > sundays for > > > breakfasts. > > > d)Keep following ancestral customs and rituals for > > > the family > > > progress and happiness . > > > > > > > > > All remedies written above are generally given > > > (though not in this > > > form as written above)in most versions of LAL KITAB > > > available in > > > market , but they are too much systematical in > > > approach. > > > > > > i have tried to change some remedial methods here > > > and there and also > > > used a user friendly language to make them more > > > broader and > > > conceptual & easy to understand ,so that evryone can > > > benefit from > > > them, and i have tested the benefits gained from > > > changed methods from > > > my own personal experiences. > > > > > > So I hope readers will try to solve their life > > > problems by using > > > the remedies given in this article . > > > > > > > > > WISH U ALL GOOD LUCK > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 mess up with what priya ji, you have gone too hastily with my answer , i know the principles of lal kitab very well ,go through message no 5389, in which i asked jay ji, that which method he employed for analysis using lal kitab, for lal kitab says that the rashis are fixed, when saha ji, asked this question he meant mesha lagna only this is his message go through it--- Hello Nishant I have a question. As per lal Kitab does 1st house always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen rashi. If Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula and Satern in Mesh shall we consider that Sun is in third house , jupiter in seventh and satern is in First? How we will understand sun/jupiter/satern is good or bad for this native? i ansered accordingly... now did u get this, mam if you again have some quick judgements to make then plz use a decent language,i'll be grateful sincerely nishant lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > > > Dear Nishant ji, > > Your understanding of the Lal Kitab grammar is entirely wrong. Please > read the book carefully before expressing your views on the LK system. > > You have said in an answer to Mr Saha's question [ given below] >>> > > > " Yes if Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > and Saturn in Mesh we shall consider that Sun is in > > third house , jupiter in seventh and saturn in > > First house resp. " > > > That is wrong. If sun is placed in Mithun it doesnot automatically > mean that it is in the third house. It will be in the third house > only if the Ascendant is Mesh. If the Lagna is mithun and the sun is > posited there it would then be considered in the first house. The > planets in the LK kundali remain where they are ,the house they are > placed in also remains the same. It is only the rasi which is erased > and the house # 1 { or khana as it is called }is marked as mesh rasi. > Therefore unlike the vedic astrology , the first house is always > mesh ..the second vrishabh and so on. > > This system of erasing the rasi and marking the houses starting with > mesh for the first house seems to be with a purpose to give > importance to the house and not to the rasi. Secondly , this marking > helps the LK students remember the two other classifications [ 1 ] of > the owner of the house and [ 2 ] whose pakka house is that. > > > Sincerely, > > priya > > lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> > wrote: > > > > > > > > hello saha ji, > > > > Yes, as per Lal Kitab 1st house always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen > > rashi.It uses system of fixed signs. > > > > Lal Kitab is not much different from vedic astrological system > which > > considers moving signs, but in actual sense it considers KAAL > PURUSHA > > kundli as its operating system.somewhat similar to Ratnaakars or > > Chintamanis. > > > > Yes if Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > and Saturn in Mesh we shall consider that Sun is in > > third house , jupiter in seventh and saturn in > > First house resp. > > > > well again I say that its not just about placements of planets in > > different houses ,because a particular planet in a particular house > > may be positive or negative,more positive or more negative, it > > depends as Lal Kitab also uses its special aspects and combinations > > which are different from vedic astrology , to ascertain the true > > nature of a planet in the given chart. > > > > This is the uniqueness of Lal Kitab. > > > > Now Saturn in 1st house is neecha & bad according to lal kitab as > > its in mesh ( but if its tula lagna as per by vedic sytem the same > > saturn is exalted), now this means good results of saturn only if > 7th > > or 10th house is occupied by some friend of Saturn but if 10th > house > > by foe then disaster for the native so we must have remedies for > this > > Saturn. > > > > If jupiter is in 7th, then this jupiter being inimical to saturn > > will make saturn 3 times weaker in effect, now it will mean Pitra > Rin > > for the native. > > > > hence like this other planets should be analysed. > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > lalkitab , Ananta Saha <anant_sahain> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Nishant > > > > > > I have a question. As per lal Kitab does 1st house > > > always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen rashi. > > > > > > If Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > > and Satern in Mesh shall we consider that Sun is in > > > third house , jupiter in seventh and satern is in > > > First? > > > > > > How we will understand sun/jupiter/satern is good or > > > bad for this native? > > > > > > Thanks in advance: saha > > > --- " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello all, on the request of many people i'm > > > > beginning a series of > > > > articles on---> > > > > > > > > " How to propitiate various planets by remedies given > > > > in LAL KITAB " > > > > > > > > In this series the 1st planet dealt is obviously > > > > SUN:LORD VISHNU,the > > > > Guardian. > > > > > > > > > > > > The remedies are general for negative effects > > > > produced by Sun > > > > according to its placement in various > > > > Houses/Bhavas,no combinations > > > > or aspects are employed here, these remedies have no > > > > negative results > > > > as other special remedies for different combinations > > > > given in LAL > > > > KITAB, so anyone can practice and benefit from these > > > > remedies.. > > > > > > > > 1st part will be Sun's placement in 1st six > > > > houses,the next part of > > > > the article will deal with the next six houses.. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 1st HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > a)Install a water tap/pump for underground water in > > > > your ancestral > > > > house. > > > > b)Reciting or listening to Harivansha Puran will > > > > also be useful. > > > > c)Don't have sex with wife during the day time. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 2nd HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > a)Keep donating on sundays almonds ,coconut, & > > > > mustard oil to places > > > > of worship. > > > > b)Avoid disputes regarding wealth, property and > > > > women. > > > > c)Dont accept products made of wheat ,barley, silver > > > > and milk for free > > > > (as gifts) from any one. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 3rd HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > a)Practice good moral conduct and avoid immoral & > > > > evil actions. > > > > b)Obtain blessings of elders by touching their feet. > > > > c)Serve the guests with Kheer made of rice & > > > > milk,use some coconut > > > > and almonds as well in Kheer preparation. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 4th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > a)Give alms to needy people on Sundays. > > > > b)Invite ten blind men to your home and distribute > > > > them food . > > > > c)Dont do business of iron and wood. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 5th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > a)Install gas burner in kitchen towards the eastern > > > > side of your home. > > > > b)Offer mustard oil through copper container to > > > > rising Sun > > > > continuously for 43 days beginning from your > > > > birthday.See that the > > > > drops of oil fall on kachcha part of ground. > > > > > > > > SUN IN 6th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > a)Feed red faced monkeys with wheat or gur on > > > > sundays. > > > > b)Always keep holy water from sacred rivers like > > > > Gangajal in your > > > > home. > > > > c)Keep inviting friends to your home specially on > > > > sundays for > > > > breakfasts. > > > > d)Keep following ancestral customs and rituals for > > > > the family > > > > progress and happiness . > > > > > > > > > > > > All remedies written above are generally given > > > > (though not in this > > > > form as written above)in most versions of LAL KITAB > > > > available in > > > > market , but they are too much systematical in > > > > approach. > > > > > > > > i have tried to change some remedial methods here > > > > and there and also > > > > used a user friendly language to make them more > > > > broader and > > > > conceptual & easy to understand ,so that evryone can > > > > benefit from > > > > them, and i have tested the benefits gained from > > > > changed methods from > > > > my own personal experiences. > > > > > > > > So I hope readers will try to solve their life > > > > problems by using > > > > the remedies given in this article . > > > > > > > > > > > > WISH U ALL GOOD LUCK > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dear Nishant ji, I have read Mr Saha's letter. Where does he say that his lagna is mesh ? All he says is whether the LK considers the first house as mesh and the 12th as meen. Yes, it does. It doesn't mean he said that his lagna is mesh , does it ? lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> wrote: > > > > > mess up with what priya ji, you have gone too hastily with my > answer , i know the principles of lal kitab very well ,go through > message no 5389, in which i asked jay ji, that which method he > employed for analysis using lal kitab, for lal kitab says that the > rashis are fixed, > when saha ji, asked this question he meant mesha lagna only this is > his message go through it--- > > > Hello Nishant > > I have a question. As per lal Kitab does 1st house > always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen rashi. > > If Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > and Satern in Mesh shall we consider that Sun is in > third house , jupiter in seventh and satern is in > First? > > How we will understand sun/jupiter/satern is good or > bad for this native? > > > > i ansered accordingly... > > now did u get this, mam if you again have some quick judgements to > make then plz use a decent language,i'll be grateful > > > sincerely > > > nishant > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nishant ji, > > > > Your understanding of the Lal Kitab grammar is entirely wrong. > Please > > read the book carefully before expressing your views on the LK > system. > > > > You have said in an answer to Mr Saha's question [ given below] >>> > > > > > " Yes if Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > > and Saturn in Mesh we shall consider that Sun is in > > > third house , jupiter in seventh and saturn in > > > First house resp. " > > > > > > That is wrong. If sun is placed in Mithun it doesnot automatically > > mean that it is in the third house. It will be in the third house > > only if the Ascendant is Mesh. If the Lagna is mithun and the sun > is > > posited there it would then be considered in the first house. The > > planets in the LK kundali remain where they are ,the house they are > > placed in also remains the same. It is only the rasi which is > erased > > and the house # 1 { or khana as it is called }is marked as mesh > rasi. > > Therefore unlike the vedic astrology , the first house is always > > mesh ..the second vrishabh and so on. > > > > This system of erasing the rasi and marking the houses starting > with > > mesh for the first house seems to be with a purpose to give > > importance to the house and not to the rasi. Secondly , this > marking > > helps the LK students remember the two other classifications [ 1 ] > of > > the owner of the house and [ 2 ] whose pakka house is that. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " > <nishant_aryan> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hello saha ji, > > > > > > Yes, as per Lal Kitab 1st house always mean Mesh and 12th as > Meen > > > rashi.It uses system of fixed signs. > > > > > > Lal Kitab is not much different from vedic astrological system > > which > > > considers moving signs, but in actual sense it considers KAAL > > PURUSHA > > > kundli as its operating system.somewhat similar to Ratnaakars or > > > Chintamanis. > > > > > > Yes if Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > > and Saturn in Mesh we shall consider that Sun is in > > > third house , jupiter in seventh and saturn in > > > First house resp. > > > > > > well again I say that its not just about placements of planets > in > > > different houses ,because a particular planet in a particular > house > > > may be positive or negative,more positive or more negative, it > > > depends as Lal Kitab also uses its special aspects and > combinations > > > which are different from vedic astrology , to ascertain the true > > > nature of a planet in the given chart. > > > > > > This is the uniqueness of Lal Kitab. > > > > > > Now Saturn in 1st house is neecha & bad according to lal kitab > as > > > its in mesh ( but if its tula lagna as per by vedic sytem the > same > > > saturn is exalted), now this means good results of saturn only if > > 7th > > > or 10th house is occupied by some friend of Saturn but if 10th > > house > > > by foe then disaster for the native so we must have remedies for > > this > > > Saturn. > > > > > > If jupiter is in 7th, then this jupiter being inimical to saturn > > > will make saturn 3 times weaker in effect, now it will mean Pitra > > Rin > > > for the native. > > > > > > hence like this other planets should be analysed. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Ananta Saha <anant_sahain> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Nishant > > > > > > > > I have a question. As per lal Kitab does 1st house > > > > always mean Mesh and 12th as Meen rashi. > > > > > > > > If Sun is placed in Mithun rashi and Jupiter in tula > > > > and Satern in Mesh shall we consider that Sun is in > > > > third house , jupiter in seventh and satern is in > > > > First? > > > > > > > > How we will understand sun/jupiter/satern is good or > > > > bad for this native? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance: saha > > > > --- " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello all, on the request of many people i'm > > > > > beginning a series of > > > > > articles on---> > > > > > > > > > > " How to propitiate various planets by remedies given > > > > > in LAL KITAB " > > > > > > > > > > In this series the 1st planet dealt is obviously > > > > > SUN:LORD VISHNU,the > > > > > Guardian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The remedies are general for negative effects > > > > > produced by Sun > > > > > according to its placement in various > > > > > Houses/Bhavas,no combinations > > > > > or aspects are employed here, these remedies have no > > > > > negative results > > > > > as other special remedies for different combinations > > > > > given in LAL > > > > > KITAB, so anyone can practice and benefit from these > > > > > remedies.. > > > > > > > > > > 1st part will be Sun's placement in 1st six > > > > > houses,the next part of > > > > > the article will deal with the next six houses.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 1st HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > > > a)Install a water tap/pump for underground water in > > > > > your ancestral > > > > > house. > > > > > b)Reciting or listening to Harivansha Puran will > > > > > also be useful. > > > > > c)Don't have sex with wife during the day time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 2nd HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > > > a)Keep donating on sundays almonds ,coconut, & > > > > > mustard oil to places > > > > > of worship. > > > > > b)Avoid disputes regarding wealth, property and > > > > > women. > > > > > c)Dont accept products made of wheat ,barley, silver > > > > > and milk for free > > > > > (as gifts) from any one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 3rd HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > > > a)Practice good moral conduct and avoid immoral & > > > > > evil actions. > > > > > b)Obtain blessings of elders by touching their feet. > > > > > c)Serve the guests with Kheer made of rice & > > > > > milk,use some coconut > > > > > and almonds as well in Kheer preparation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 4th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > > > a)Give alms to needy people on Sundays. > > > > > b)Invite ten blind men to your home and distribute > > > > > them food . > > > > > c)Dont do business of iron and wood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 5th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > > > a)Install gas burner in kitchen towards the eastern > > > > > side of your home. > > > > > b)Offer mustard oil through copper container to > > > > > rising Sun > > > > > continuously for 43 days beginning from your > > > > > birthday.See that the > > > > > drops of oil fall on kachcha part of ground. > > > > > > > > > > SUN IN 6th HOUSE/BHAVA--- > > > > > > > > > > a)Feed red faced monkeys with wheat or gur on > > > > > sundays. > > > > > b)Always keep holy water from sacred rivers like > > > > > Gangajal in your > > > > > home. > > > > > c)Keep inviting friends to your home specially on > > > > > sundays for > > > > > breakfasts. > > > > > d)Keep following ancestral customs and rituals for > > > > > the family > > > > > progress and happiness . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All remedies written above are generally given > > > > > (though not in this > > > > > form as written above)in most versions of LAL KITAB > > > > > available in > > > > > market , but they are too much systematical in > > > > > approach. > > > > > > > > > > i have tried to change some remedial methods here > > > > > and there and also > > > > > used a user friendly language to make them more > > > > > broader and > > > > > conceptual & easy to understand ,so that evryone can > > > > > benefit from > > > > > them, and i have tested the benefits gained from > > > > > changed methods from > > > > > my own personal experiences. > > > > > > > > > > So I hope readers will try to solve their life > > > > > problems by using > > > > > the remedies given in this article . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISH U ALL GOOD LUCK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > NISHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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