Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 My greetings to all Lal Kitab group members.I am an astrologer following Lal Kitab .Although the remedies prescribed in Lal Kitab are of charismatic effects but their are also many hidden risks for prescribing astrologer .In the chapter of " Grahaphal and Rashiphal " it is specified that very particular people can prescribe remedies to change the course of events in life {applying Mekha in Rekha} Eligibility criterion for that is the position of sun should be in Aries that is in in 1st house in the horoscope of astrologer.{Surya khana no 1 me Quaid}. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Aditya I have Sun in Pisces Lagna. Does this mean that I can prescribe remedies for others without any risk? Incidentally, I am not too familiar with this risk part and would request you to please guide me on this. Ashutosh --- aditya_kumar_gupta2005 <aditya_kumar_gupta2005 wrote: > > My greetings to all Lal Kitab group > members.I am an > astrologer following Lal Kitab .Although the > remedies prescribed in > Lal Kitab are of charismatic effects but their are > also many hidden > risks for prescribing astrologer .In the chapter of > " Grahaphal and > Rashiphal " it is specified that very particular > people can prescribe > remedies to change the course of events in life > {applying Mekha in > Rekha} > Eligibility criterion for that is the position of > sun should be in > Aries that is in in 1st house in the horoscope of > astrologer.{Surya > khana no 1 me Quaid}. > > > > > ===== Ashutosh Gangal Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Oh my Gods, this is just the debate that had started in another forum on Lal Kitab. I respectfully beg to differ in my views regarding the risk part - while I definately do not advocate irresponsibility. I give below my arguments which I posted on the other message board : I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they say that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal - since they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is a strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-fold law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back to you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly vulnerable or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree with - one can not release negative energies without suffering the consequences. I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not for evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally absent, I do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar tilak) can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to plot the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is studied and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing good .... how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and caring - not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear to the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of the Almighty. I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that we should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into the book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear manner. Ritu lalkitab , Ashutosh <ashutosh_gangal> wrote: > Dear Aditya > > I have Sun in Pisces Lagna. Does this mean that I can > prescribe remedies for others without any risk? > Incidentally, I am not too familiar with this risk > part and would request you to please guide me on this. > > Ashutosh > --- aditya_kumar_gupta2005 > <aditya_kumar_gupta2005> wrote: > > > > > My greetings to all Lal Kitab group > > members.I am an > > astrologer following Lal Kitab .Although the > > remedies prescribed in > > Lal Kitab are of charismatic effects but their are > > also many hidden > > risks for prescribing astrologer .In the chapter of > > " Grahaphal and > > Rashiphal " it is specified that very particular > > people can prescribe > > remedies to change the course of events in life > > {applying Mekha in > > Rekha} > > Eligibility criterion for that is the position of > > sun should be in > > Aries that is in in 1st house in the horoscope of > > astrologer.{Surya > > khana no 1 me Quaid}. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > Ashutosh Gangal > > > > > > Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. > http://celebrity.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Ritu ji, I dont think you understood the context in which that discussion was started. Little knowledge is dangerous than no knowledge at all. That was the reason Mr. Bhardwaj told newbies not to go to remedies portion of the book and start prescribing remedies. Though the intention of the person may be to help others but in doing so he may cause the benefic planets to go malefic. If you have read the Lal Kitab then you must understand that it is not easy to figure which planet is malefic or benefic at a given time, so just looking at one planet that you might think is malefic and prescribe the remedy for that planet is not the right approach. I am sure the experts will agree with me. Ofcourse the LalKitab remedies are for good.. but ..you just can't do all the remedies that are written in the book and say you can never be harmed.. thats wrong. I hope I am not hurting your feelings in any way. Just wanted to make it clear that you can harm some one by prescribing remedies with little knowledge. Better leave it to the experts. With Regards Gullu lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > Oh my Gods, this is just the debate that had started in another forum > on Lal Kitab. I respectfully beg to differ in my views regarding the > risk part - while I definately do not advocate irresponsibility. > I give below my arguments which I posted on the other message board : > > I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they say > that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal - since > they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is a > strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-fold > law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back to > you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly vulnerable > or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree with - > one can not release negative energies without suffering the > consequences. > > I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not for > evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally absent, I > do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple > general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar tilak) > can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to plot > the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is studied > and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the > astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing good .... > how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and caring - > not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear to > the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be > benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of the > Almighty. > > I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that we > should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into the > book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear manner. > > Ritu > > > lalkitab , Ashutosh <ashutosh_gangal> > wrote: > > Dear Aditya > > > > I have Sun in Pisces Lagna. Does this mean that I can > > prescribe remedies for others without any risk? > > Incidentally, I am not too familiar with this risk > > part and would request you to please guide me on this. > > > > Ashutosh > > --- aditya_kumar_gupta2005 > > <aditya_kumar_gupta2005> wrote: > > > > > > > > My greetings to all Lal Kitab group > > > members.I am an > > > astrologer following Lal Kitab .Although the > > > remedies prescribed in > > > Lal Kitab are of charismatic effects but their are > > > also many hidden > > > risks for prescribing astrologer .In the chapter of > > > " Grahaphal and > > > Rashiphal " it is specified that very particular > > > people can prescribe > > > remedies to change the course of events in life > > > {applying Mekha in > > > Rekha} > > > Eligibility criterion for that is the position of > > > sun should be in > > > Aries that is in in 1st house in the horoscope of > > > astrologer.{Surya > > > khana no 1 me Quaid}. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Ashutosh Gangal > > > > > > > > > > > > Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. > > http://celebrity.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Gulluji, Insted of demotivating, Rituji you are requested to motivate, saying +ve thoughts, train, correct if you can. If you have better knowledge please correct where Rituji is making a wrong remedies, etc. etc, Ofcourse you may be more knowledge guy. If you can correct, we all will be greatfull to you. Please do not feel bad. Thanks, Ramprakash - Gullu Badshaw <acura_2004 Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:24 am [lalkitab] Re: Risc in prescribing Remedies > > > Ritu ji, > I dont think you understood the context in which that > discussion was started. Little knowledge is dangerous than no > knowledge at all. That was the reason Mr. Bhardwaj told newbies not > to go to remedies portion of the book and start prescribing remedies. > Though the intention of the person may be to help others but in doing > so he may cause the benefic planets to go malefic. > If you have read the Lal Kitab then you must understand that it is > not easy to figure which planet is malefic or benefic at a given > time, so just looking at one planet that you might think is malefic > and prescribe the remedy for that planet is not the right approach. > > I am sure the experts will agree with me. > > Ofcourse the LalKitab remedies are for good.. but ..you just can't do > all the remedies that are written in the book and say you can never > be harmed.. thats wrong. > > I hope I am not hurting your feelings in any way. Just wanted to make > it clear that you can harm some one by prescribing remedies with > little knowledge. Better leave it to the experts. > > With Regards > > Gullu > > > lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > Oh my Gods, this is just the debate that had started in another > forum > > on Lal Kitab. I respectfully beg to differ in my views > regarding > the > > risk part - while I definately do not advocate irresponsibility. > > I give below my arguments which I posted on the other message > board : > > > > I have read with interest this thread. U know - in Punjab they say > > that tantriks suffer deformities or worse as their karamphal - since > > they are interfering with the divine purpose. Abroad, there is a > > strong movement of Paganism and magick - and they have a three-fold > > law. If you willfully try to harm someone, the harm comes back to > > you in a multiple of three-times when u are particularly vulnerable > > or going through a bad patch. Now that is something I agree with > - > > one can not release negative energies without suffering the > > consequences. > > > > I have studied the Lal Kitab - the remedies are for good - not for > > evil at all. When the intention to harm someone is totally > absent, I > > do not see how prescribing remedies (which are basically simple > > general remedies like watering a badh tree or wearing kesar tilak) > > can be harmful. It is harming none - and no one is trying to plot > > the downfall of someone else. Moreover, if the birthchart is studied > > and the remedies are prescribed as per the varshphal .... the > > astrologer who is prescribing has the intention of doing good .... > > how can evil occur? The Universal Divine is intelligent and > caring - > > not vengeful and punishing - I am sure the intent will be clear to > > the Divine Energy. If it is in the karma of the person to be > > benefitted - he/she will be. If not - that is also the will of the > > Almighty. > > > > I am not advocating irresponsibility - but am also saying that we > > should not as a group invest too much mystery and danger into the > > book which has written the remedies in a simple and clear manner. > > > > Ritu > > > > > > lalkitab , Ashutosh <ashutosh_gangal> > > wrote: > > > Dear Aditya > > > > > > I have Sun in Pisces Lagna. Does this mean that I can > > > prescribe remedies for others without any risk? > > > Incidentally, I am not too familiar with this risk > > > part and would request you to please guide me on this. > > > > > > Ashutosh > > > --- aditya_kumar_gupta2005 > > > <aditya_kumar_gupta2005> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > My greetings to all Lal Kitab group > > > > members.I am an > > > > astrologer following Lal Kitab .Although the > > > > remedies prescribed in > > > > Lal Kitab are of charismatic effects but their are > > > > also many hidden > > > > risks for prescribing astrologer .In the chapter of > > > > " Grahaphal and > > > > Rashiphal " it is specified that very particular > > > > people can prescribe > > > > remedies to change the course of events in life > > > > {applying Mekha in > > > > Rekha} > > > > Eligibility criterion for that is the position of > > > > sun should be in > > > > Aries that is in in 1st house in the horoscope of > > > > astrologer.{Surya > > > > khana no 1 me Quaid}. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > Ashutosh Gangal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. > > > http://celebrity.mail. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 lalkitab , Ashutosh <ashutosh_gangal> wrote: > Dear Aditya > > I have Sun in Pisces Lagna. Does this mean that I can > prescribe remedies for others without any risk? > Incidentally, I am not too familiar with this risk > part and would request you to please guide me on this. > > > Dear Ashutosh, Their is a risc in prescribing remedies when there is an " ashiriwad " or assurance to the person if that person does not perform the prescribed remedies rightfully then he can even be benefitted but the transfer of that benefit can be upon the prescribing astrologer in debit side so the astrologer should prescribe the remedies to the person just in capacity of a physician doctor thus the responsibility will lie upon the person . The gain through remedies are a zero sum game this is a transfer of one wordly thing of the concerned person with some other wordly things of that person. > > > > > > > ===== > Ashutosh Gangal > > > > > > Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. > http://celebrity.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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