Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Punit ji, I adopted this approach keeping my experiences in mind, idon't want others to face the difficulties faced by myself, actually i wanted to devise a methodology for learning lalkitab. This is the foremost confusion of every student because everything seems to be interlinked. therefore i thought of the pattern as follows. 1. SIGNIFICATION OF HOUSES GIVEN IN ALL THE FIVE EDITIONS OF LALKITAB. 2. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HOUSES AND PLANETS. 3. GRAMMER OF HOUSES( what u asked). 4. SIGNIFICATORS OF PLANETS. 5. GRAMMER OF PLANETS. 6. PLANETS IN HOUSES. 7. COMBINATION OF PLANETS. 8. UPAYAS AND PRECAUTIONS. 9. ESOTERIC SIGNIFICANCE OF LALKITAB. please let me know if it requiies some alteration. I propose a thorough discussion on every point, that's why i am not in favour of making it time bound. the question can be asked any time on any topic that has reached the message board. if someone has missed something that has been discussed in past, he is welcome to raise the point again.i promise you, time will testify that this group notes will be ultimate and will have to be refferred by any student or expert on lalkitab. kulbir bains. lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Kulbir ji, > > Incredible effort. > > Could you please tell what methodology you are going to adopt for all > lal kitab grammar discussion and learning? If people are knowing the > process in advance, they will know where to interrupt and where to > wait. For example, right now I am confused whether to discuses more on > houses or move ahead. You have mentioned about the signification of > each house. In Lal Kitab, other than signification, some rules are > associated with each house. Should we discuss those rules here only or > those rules should be discussed later. > > Also I want to request all members to contribute to this effort. It is > a long awaited effort. Everyone was talking about that we must have > some course and discussion on Lal Kitab grammar. Kulbir ji has taken a > lead this time so everyone should try to get most benefit out of it. > We are always ahead in bashing and blaming :-) and we should show the > same intensity in this process of learning. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:33:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > Exaltation means that through-out the zodiacal belt, there is a > > certain area at which, the electromagnetic field of the stars > > constituting that rashi/herehouse so complement a certain planet's > > position at that point that its effects on the terrestrial level are > > most pronounced. Exactly 180° from this point lies another point, > > that of the debilitation. > > > > Debilitation means a state that is a liability. A state of weakness > > of a planet at a certain degree in a certain sign/here house. > > > > Permanent house of planets is a concept of NATURAL SIGNIFICATORS OF > > HOUSES. The natural Significator of a house is designated as having a > > pakka ghar in that house. > > > > Ownership- the planet that is owner of the sign corresponding to that > > house is termed as owner of that house. > > > > Rashiphal- The planet whose result in a house is doubtful is termed as > > planet of rashiphal in that house .i.e when the planet is posited in a > > house where it is not exalted or debilitated; not in a pakka ghar i.e. > > is not a natural Significator or is associated with a planet with > > which it has exchanged houses. > > > > Grahphal-The planet whose results are fixed and cannot be altered. > > I.e. the planet is in a house of exaltation or debilitation or in its > > ownership house. > > KULBIR BAINS > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Thank you Kulbirji for the time and effort spent. I have a suggestion - can these mails regarding house signification and grammar also be uploaded into the file section for ready reference? May be Punitji can help us with that. During discussion, we can refer to them easily instead of hunting the archives. Ritu lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " <ceetabains> wrote: > > Punit ji, > > I adopted this approach keeping my experiences in mind, idon't want > others to face the difficulties faced by myself, actually i wanted to > devise a methodology for learning lalkitab. This is the foremost > confusion of every student because everything seems to be interlinked. > therefore i thought of the pattern as follows. > 1. SIGNIFICATION OF HOUSES GIVEN IN ALL THE FIVE EDITIONS OF LALKITAB. > 2. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HOUSES AND PLANETS. > 3. GRAMMER OF HOUSES( what u asked). > 4. SIGNIFICATORS OF PLANETS. > 5. GRAMMER OF PLANETS. > 6. PLANETS IN HOUSES. > 7. COMBINATION OF PLANETS. > 8. UPAYAS AND PRECAUTIONS. > 9. ESOTERIC SIGNIFICANCE OF LALKITAB. > > please let me know if it requiies some alteration. > I propose a thorough discussion on every point, that's why i am not in > favour of making it time bound. the question can be asked any time on > any topic that has reached the message board. if someone has missed > something that has been discussed in past, he is welcome to raise the > point again.i promise you, time will testify that this group notes > will be ultimate and will have to be refferred by any student or > expert on lalkitab. > kulbir bains. > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Kulbir ji, > > > > Incredible effort. > > > > Could you please tell what methodology you are going to adopt for all > > lal kitab grammar discussion and learning? If people are knowing the > > process in advance, they will know where to interrupt and where to > > wait. For example, right now I am confused whether to discuses more on > > houses or move ahead. You have mentioned about the signification of > > each house. In Lal Kitab, other than signification, some rules are > > associated with each house. Should we discuss those rules here only or > > those rules should be discussed later. > > > > Also I want to request all members to contribute to this effort. It is > > a long awaited effort. Everyone was talking about that we must have > > some course and discussion on Lal Kitab grammar. Kulbir ji has taken a > > lead this time so everyone should try to get most benefit out of it. > > We are always ahead in bashing and blaming :-) and we should show the > > same intensity in this process of learning. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:33:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Exaltation means that through-out the zodiacal belt, there is a > > > certain area at which, the electromagnetic field of the stars > > > constituting that rashi/herehouse so complement a certain planet's > > > position at that point that its effects on the terrestrial level are > > > most pronounced. Exactly 180° from this point lies another point, > > > that of the debilitation. > > > > > > Debilitation means a state that is a liability. A state of weakness > > > of a planet at a certain degree in a certain sign/here house. > > > > > > Permanent house of planets is a concept of NATURAL SIGNIFICATORS OF > > > HOUSES. The natural Significator of a house is designated as having a > > > pakka ghar in that house. > > > > > > Ownership- the planet that is owner of the sign corresponding to that > > > house is termed as owner of that house. > > > > > > Rashiphal- The planet whose result in a house is doubtful is termed as > > > planet of rashiphal in that house .i.e when the planet is posited in a > > > house where it is not exalted or debilitated; not in a pakka ghar i.e. > > > is not a natural Significator or is associated with a planet with > > > which it has exchanged houses. > > > > > > Grahphal-The planet whose results are fixed and cannot be altered. > > > I.e. the planet is in a house of exaltation or debilitation or in its > > > ownership house. > > > KULBIR BAINS > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 RITU JI , even this is a wonderful idea. i don't know much about computers so punit ji will put the messages in files section as he deems fit. i will send a complete and revised list of house significations. kulbir lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > Thank you Kulbirji for the time and effort spent. I have a > suggestion - can these mails regarding house signification and > grammar also be uploaded into the file section for ready reference? > May be Punitji can help us with that. During discussion, we can > refer to them easily instead of hunting the archives. > > Ritu > > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > Punit ji, > > > > I adopted this approach keeping my experiences in mind, idon't want > > others to face the difficulties faced by myself, actually i wanted > to > > devise a methodology for learning lalkitab. This is the foremost > > confusion of every student because everything seems to be > interlinked. > > therefore i thought of the pattern as follows. > > 1. SIGNIFICATION OF HOUSES GIVEN IN ALL THE FIVE EDITIONS OF > LALKITAB. > > 2. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HOUSES AND PLANETS. > > 3. GRAMMER OF HOUSES( what u asked). > > 4. SIGNIFICATORS OF PLANETS. > > 5. GRAMMER OF PLANETS. > > 6. PLANETS IN HOUSES. > > 7. COMBINATION OF PLANETS. > > 8. UPAYAS AND PRECAUTIONS. > > 9. ESOTERIC SIGNIFICANCE OF LALKITAB. > > > > please let me know if it requiies some alteration. > > I propose a thorough discussion on every point, that's why i am not > in > > favour of making it time bound. the question can be asked any time > on > > any topic that has reached the message board. if someone has missed > > something that has been discussed in past, he is welcome to raise > the > > point again.i promise you, time will testify that this group notes > > will be ultimate and will have to be refferred by any student or > > expert on lalkitab. > > kulbir bains. > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Kulbir ji, > > > > > > Incredible effort. > > > > > > Could you please tell what methodology you are going to adopt for > all > > > lal kitab grammar discussion and learning? If people are knowing > the > > > process in advance, they will know where to interrupt and where to > > > wait. For example, right now I am confused whether to discuses > more on > > > houses or move ahead. You have mentioned about the signification > of > > > each house. In Lal Kitab, other than signification, some rules are > > > associated with each house. Should we discuss those rules here > only or > > > those rules should be discussed later. > > > > > > Also I want to request all members to contribute to this effort. > It is > > > a long awaited effort. Everyone was talking about that we must > have > > > some course and discussion on Lal Kitab grammar. Kulbir ji has > taken a > > > lead this time so everyone should try to get most benefit out of > it. > > > We are always ahead in bashing and blaming :-) and we should show > the > > > same intensity in this process of learning. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:33:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Exaltation means that through-out the zodiacal belt, there is a > > > > certain area at which, the electromagnetic field of the stars > > > > constituting that rashi/herehouse so complement a certain > planet's > > > > position at that point that its effects on the terrestrial > level are > > > > most pronounced. Exactly 180° from this point lies another > point, > > > > that of the debilitation. > > > > > > > > Debilitation means a state that is a liability. A state of > weakness > > > > of a planet at a certain degree in a certain sign/here house. > > > > > > > > Permanent house of planets is a concept of NATURAL > SIGNIFICATORS OF > > > > HOUSES. The natural Significator of a house is designated as > having a > > > > pakka ghar in that house. > > > > > > > > Ownership- the planet that is owner of the sign corresponding > to that > > > > house is termed as owner of that house. > > > > > > > > Rashiphal- The planet whose result in a house is doubtful is > termed as > > > > planet of rashiphal in that house .i.e when the planet is > posited in a > > > > house where it is not exalted or debilitated; not in a pakka > ghar i.e. > > > > is not a natural Significator or is associated with a planet > with > > > > which it has exchanged houses. > > > > > > > > Grahphal-The planet whose results are fixed and cannot be > altered. > > > > I.e. the planet is in a house of exaltation or debilitation or > in its > > > > ownership house. > > > > KULBIR BAINS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Kulbir ji, I liked the suggestion of Ritu ji very much. Please send me the final files so that we can place it into the file section of the group. Also I want to request you to post only one topic per day. It will give time for each member to think, study and reply. I also want to request experts of this group to come forward and participate in the discussion on grammar. It is the place where participation of experts is needed most. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:40:40 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains wrote: > > > RITU JI , even this is a wonderful idea. i don't know much about > computers so punit ji will put the messages in files section as he > deems fit. i will send a complete and revised list of house > significations. > > kulbir > > > > lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > Thank you Kulbirji for the time and effort spent. I have a > > suggestion - can these mails regarding house signification and > > grammar also be uploaded into the file section for ready reference? > > May be Punitji can help us with that. During discussion, we can > > refer to them easily instead of hunting the archives. > > > > Ritu > > > > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > Punit ji, > > > > > > I adopted this approach keeping my experiences in mind, idon't want > > > others to face the difficulties faced by myself, actually i wanted > > to > > > devise a methodology for learning lalkitab. This is the foremost > > > confusion of every student because everything seems to be > > interlinked. > > > therefore i thought of the pattern as follows. > > > 1. SIGNIFICATION OF HOUSES GIVEN IN ALL THE FIVE EDITIONS OF > > LALKITAB. > > > 2. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HOUSES AND PLANETS. > > > 3. GRAMMER OF HOUSES( what u asked). > > > 4. SIGNIFICATORS OF PLANETS. > > > 5. GRAMMER OF PLANETS. > > > 6. PLANETS IN HOUSES. > > > 7. COMBINATION OF PLANETS. > > > 8. UPAYAS AND PRECAUTIONS. > > > 9. ESOTERIC SIGNIFICANCE OF LALKITAB. > > > > > > please let me know if it requiies some alteration. > > > I propose a thorough discussion on every point, that's why i am not > > in > > > favour of making it time bound. the question can be asked any time > > on > > > any topic that has reached the message board. if someone has missed > > > something that has been discussed in past, he is welcome to raise > > the > > > point again.i promise you, time will testify that this group notes > > > will be ultimate and will have to be refferred by any student or > > > expert on lalkitab. > > > kulbir bains. > > > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > > Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > Incredible effort. > > > > > > > > Could you please tell what methodology you are going to adopt for > > all > > > > lal kitab grammar discussion and learning? If people are knowing > > the > > > > process in advance, they will know where to interrupt and where to > > > > wait. For example, right now I am confused whether to discuses > > more on > > > > houses or move ahead. You have mentioned about the signification > > of > > > > each house. In Lal Kitab, other than signification, some rules are > > > > associated with each house. Should we discuss those rules here > > only or > > > > those rules should be discussed later. > > > > > > > > Also I want to request all members to contribute to this effort. > > It is > > > > a long awaited effort. Everyone was talking about that we must > > have > > > > some course and discussion on Lal Kitab grammar. Kulbir ji has > > taken a > > > > lead this time so everyone should try to get most benefit out of > > it. > > > > We are always ahead in bashing and blaming :-) and we should show > > the > > > > same intensity in this process of learning. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:33:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exaltation means that through-out the zodiacal belt, there is a > > > > > certain area at which, the electromagnetic field of the stars > > > > > constituting that rashi/herehouse so complement a certain > > planet's > > > > > position at that point that its effects on the terrestrial > > level are > > > > > most pronounced. Exactly 180° from this point lies another > > point, > > > > > that of the debilitation. > > > > > > > > > > Debilitation means a state that is a liability. A state of > > weakness > > > > > of a planet at a certain degree in a certain sign/here house. > > > > > > > > > > Permanent house of planets is a concept of NATURAL > > SIGNIFICATORS OF > > > > > HOUSES. The natural Significator of a house is designated as > > having a > > > > > pakka ghar in that house. > > > > > > > > > > Ownership- the planet that is owner of the sign corresponding > > to that > > > > > house is termed as owner of that house. > > > > > > > > > > Rashiphal- The planet whose result in a house is doubtful is > > termed as > > > > > planet of rashiphal in that house .i.e when the planet is > > posited in a > > > > > house where it is not exalted or debilitated; not in a pakka > > ghar i.e. > > > > > is not a natural Significator or is associated with a planet > > with > > > > > which it has exchanged houses. > > > > > > > > > > Grahphal-The planet whose results are fixed and cannot be > > altered. > > > > > I.e. the planet is in a house of exaltation or debilitation or > > in its > > > > > ownership house. > > > > > KULBIR BAINS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 punit ji thanx for appreciation , from now onwards i shall send only one topic per day. let's complete detailede notes on all the 12 houses then we shall put it in files section. thanx kulbirlalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Kulbir ji, > > I liked the suggestion of Ritu ji very much. Please send me the final > files so that we can place it into the file section of the group. > > Also I want to request you to post only one topic per day. It will > give time for each member to think, study and reply. > > I also want to request experts of this group to come forward and > participate in the discussion on grammar. It is the place where > participation of experts is needed most. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:40:40 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > RITU JI , even this is a wonderful idea. i don't know much about > > computers so punit ji will put the messages in files section as he > > deems fit. i will send a complete and revised list of house > > significations. > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you Kulbirji for the time and effort spent. I have a > > > suggestion - can these mails regarding house signification and > > > grammar also be uploaded into the file section for ready reference? > > > May be Punitji can help us with that. During discussion, we can > > > refer to them easily instead of hunting the archives. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > Punit ji, > > > > > > > > I adopted this approach keeping my experiences in mind, idon't want > > > > others to face the difficulties faced by myself, actually i wanted > > > to > > > > devise a methodology for learning lalkitab. This is the foremost > > > > confusion of every student because everything seems to be > > > interlinked. > > > > therefore i thought of the pattern as follows. > > > > 1. SIGNIFICATION OF HOUSES GIVEN IN ALL THE FIVE EDITIONS OF > > > LALKITAB. > > > > 2. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HOUSES AND PLANETS. > > > > 3. GRAMMER OF HOUSES( what u asked). > > > > 4. SIGNIFICATORS OF PLANETS. > > > > 5. GRAMMER OF PLANETS. > > > > 6. PLANETS IN HOUSES. > > > > 7. COMBINATION OF PLANETS. > > > > 8. UPAYAS AND PRECAUTIONS. > > > > 9. ESOTERIC SIGNIFICANCE OF LALKITAB. > > > > > > > > please let me know if it requiies some alteration. > > > > I propose a thorough discussion on every point, that's why i am not > > > in > > > > favour of making it time bound. the question can be asked any time > > > on > > > > any topic that has reached the message board. if someone has missed > > > > something that has been discussed in past, he is welcome to raise > > > the > > > > point again.i promise you, time will testify that this group notes > > > > will be ultimate and will have to be refferred by any student or > > > > expert on lalkitab. > > > > kulbir bains. > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > > > Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > > > Incredible effort. > > > > > > > > > > Could you please tell what methodology you are going to adopt for > > > all > > > > > lal kitab grammar discussion and learning? If people are knowing > > > the > > > > > process in advance, they will know where to interrupt and where to > > > > > wait. For example, right now I am confused whether to discuses > > > more on > > > > > houses or move ahead. You have mentioned about the signification > > > of > > > > > each house. In Lal Kitab, other than signification, some rules are > > > > > associated with each house. Should we discuss those rules here > > > only or > > > > > those rules should be discussed later. > > > > > > > > > > Also I want to request all members to contribute to this effort. > > > It is > > > > > a long awaited effort. Everyone was talking about that we must > > > have > > > > > some course and discussion on Lal Kitab grammar. Kulbir ji has > > > taken a > > > > > lead this time so everyone should try to get most benefit out of > > > it. > > > > > We are always ahead in bashing and blaming :-) and we should show > > > the > > > > > same intensity in this process of learning. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:33:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > > > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exaltation means that through-out the zodiacal belt, there is a > > > > > > certain area at which, the electromagnetic field of the stars > > > > > > constituting that rashi/herehouse so complement a certain > > > planet's > > > > > > position at that point that its effects on the terrestrial > > > level are > > > > > > most pronounced. Exactly 180° from this point lies another > > > point, > > > > > > that of the debilitation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Debilitation means a state that is a liability. A state of > > > weakness > > > > > > of a planet at a certain degree in a certain sign/here house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Permanent house of planets is a concept of NATURAL > > > SIGNIFICATORS OF > > > > > > HOUSES. The natural Significator of a house is designated as > > > having a > > > > > > pakka ghar in that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ownership- the planet that is owner of the sign corresponding > > > to that > > > > > > house is termed as owner of that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rashiphal- The planet whose result in a house is doubtful is > > > termed as > > > > > > planet of rashiphal in that house .i.e when the planet is > > > posited in a > > > > > > house where it is not exalted or debilitated; not in a pakka > > > ghar i.e. > > > > > > is not a natural Significator or is associated with a planet > > > with > > > > > > which it has exchanged houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahphal-The planet whose results are fixed and cannot be > > > altered. > > > > > > I.e. the planet is in a house of exaltation or debilitation or > > > in its > > > > > > ownership house. > > > > > > KULBIR BAINS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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