Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Punit ji i suggest lets do it in following parts; 1. basic difference bwetween lalkitab and parahsari system. 2. all the twelve houses one by one in detail. 3. 9 planets general introduction exaltation deblitation shaki raddi etc; friendship enemity etc. 4. aspects 5. age of planets, age of houses 6. 35 saala chakra and mahadasha 7. then planets in 12 houses combinations etc. 8. tewe ki darusti. 9. role pf palmistry vastushastra dreams etc.in my opininon lets not make it time bound so that every aspect can be discussed in detail. AGAR AAP KI IZZAZAT HO TO KAL SE HI SHURU KAR DETE HAIN. SHUBH KAAM MEIN DERI KAISI. MOREOVER I FEEL THAT THE BEST WAY TO LEARN LALKITAB IS TO TEACH. DON'T WORRY I HAVE ALL THE TIME FOR THIS IT IS A FULL TIME JOB FOR ME NOW A DAYS. AAP BAS ITNI MADAD KAR DIJIYE KI JO MUJHSE ROOTHE HUA HAIN UNKO BHI MANA KAR IS NEK KAAM MEIN MERA SAATH DENE KO MANA LEIN. THANX KULBIR lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Kulbir ji, > > You have taken words out of my mouth (hope it is a correct idiom). > After forming group constitution, the next immediate target is to > start discussion on lal kitab grammar. I tried in the past, but I > think, I am not the right person for it, especially due to the ongoing > time problem. > > We are still not through with the formation of core group. But may I > request you and Hameed ji to take responsibility for discussion of lal > kitab grammar. I have seen you and Hameed ji doing it in desecrate > manner. We need some person to lead on the process. The process is > needed to be streamlined. > > If you are okay with the idea, let us start the discussion on lal > kitab grammar. Also let me know what sort of help is required form my > side, if any. We can start discussion either couplet-by-couplet or > topic-by-topic. Please decide on which method can be the best and > vitalize the process. > > Waiting for feedbacks and suggestions from all members. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:12:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > Since the group moderator has made it clear beyond doubt that the > > primary objective of the group is discusion and upayas etc. is > > incidental. sopunitmay i have the permission to start with the > > houses. then planets nad so on. if someone is intersted he can joinor > > contribute if someone is not intersted he can have parrallel > > discussions but lets start only if we get a goahead from > > punit.regarding certificate nobody asks for certificates or medals in > > astrology the people are intersted in solving there problems if you > > have the capacity this is the only certificate otherwise certificates > > are of no use at all. i know a gentleman who gives a doctorate degree > > from a srilanka university in jyotish by taking money the persons who > > have got even a doctorate degree are still at crossroads. so lets > > concntrate on learning alone. > > kulbir > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " <jyotish_mail> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujans, > > > > > > We all would have a copy of lalkitab with us by now, if not please > > > run and get it. > > > > > > And those who have it must be breaking our heads on it. > > > > > > Any way, this is a controversial topic and i want to tread on this > > > very slowly. > > > > > > I would like to ask Punit to create a Vote on whether the members > > > here want to have course or not. > > > > > > Will it be a classroom course or a corresponse course. > > > > > > Then how would the examination will be conducted. > > > > > > I believe the examination need to be in one place(closes to the > > place > > > where all the learned members can come) atleast for the first batch > > > and the exam needs not only to check not just the knowledge but > > also > > > the haav bhaav of the student( could create a controversy/ but > > please > > > avoid it now). > > > > > > What kind of Certificates be given to the students. Exact matter to > > > be written on the certificate. This can be decided during the > > > discussion in the group itself. > > > > > > What kind of fee structure be of the course. Will it be free or no > > > profit no loss. How will the fees be decided, somebody who has some > > > accouting knowledge can come up with some idea. > > > > > > Who all will be in the involved in the creation of the course > > > structure and content. > > > > > > Will there be any classroom session if yes then who will take up > > the > > > classess. > > > > > > The teachers who would like to come forward should they be paid for > > > their service, if not how will the food and travel and accomodation > > > expenses be taken care of. > > > > > > I personally believe we need to have a teacher for any knowledge > > gain. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > Vivek > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 I agree - nek kaam mein der nahin karni chahiye. But first the basic. Every one should have the same book. Can some standard be set ? Which is the approved book / edition and where can it be bought from ? It will eliminate a lot of needless controversy. Ritu lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " <ceetabains> wrote: > > Punit ji i suggest lets do it in following parts; > 1. basic difference bwetween lalkitab and parahsari system. > 2. all the twelve houses one by one in detail. > 3. 9 planets general introduction exaltation deblitation shaki raddi > etc; friendship enemity etc. > 4. aspects > 5. age of planets, age of houses > 6. 35 saala chakra and mahadasha > 7. then planets in 12 houses combinations etc. > 8. tewe ki darusti. > 9. role pf palmistry vastushastra dreams etc.in my opininon lets not > make it time bound so that every aspect can be discussed in detail. > AGAR AAP KI IZZAZAT HO TO KAL SE HI SHURU KAR DETE HAIN. SHUBH KAAM > MEIN DERI KAISI. MOREOVER I FEEL THAT THE BEST WAY TO LEARN LALKITAB > IS TO TEACH. DON'T WORRY I HAVE ALL THE TIME FOR THIS IT IS A FULL > TIME JOB FOR ME NOW A DAYS. AAP BAS ITNI MADAD KAR DIJIYE KI JO MUJHSE > ROOTHE HUA HAIN UNKO BHI MANA KAR IS NEK KAAM MEIN MERA SAATH DENE KO > MANA LEIN. THANX > KULBIR > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Kulbir ji, > > > > You have taken words out of my mouth (hope it is a correct idiom). > > After forming group constitution, the next immediate target is to > > start discussion on lal kitab grammar. I tried in the past, but I > > think, I am not the right person for it, especially due to the ongoing > > time problem. > > > > We are still not through with the formation of core group. But may I > > request you and Hameed ji to take responsibility for discussion of lal > > kitab grammar. I have seen you and Hameed ji doing it in desecrate > > manner. We need some person to lead on the process. The process is > > needed to be streamlined. > > > > If you are okay with the idea, let us start the discussion on lal > > kitab grammar. Also let me know what sort of help is required form my > > side, if any. We can start discussion either couplet-by-couplet or > > topic-by-topic. Please decide on which method can be the best and > > vitalize the process. > > > > Waiting for feedbacks and suggestions from all members. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:12:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Since the group moderator has made it clear beyond doubt that the > > > primary objective of the group is discusion and upayas etc. is > > > incidental. sopunitmay i have the permission to start with the > > > houses. then planets nad so on. if someone is intersted he can joinor > > > contribute if someone is not intersted he can have parrallel > > > discussions but lets start only if we get a goahead from > > > punit.regarding certificate nobody asks for certificates or medals in > > > astrology the people are intersted in solving there problems if you > > > have the capacity this is the only certificate otherwise certificates > > > are of no use at all. i know a gentleman who gives a doctorate degree > > > from a srilanka university in jyotish by taking money the persons who > > > have got even a doctorate degree are still at crossroads. so lets > > > concntrate on learning alone. > > > kulbir > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " <jyotish_mail> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujans, > > > > > > > > We all would have a copy of lalkitab with us by now, if not please > > > > run and get it. > > > > > > > > And those who have it must be breaking our heads on it. > > > > > > > > Any way, this is a controversial topic and i want to tread on this > > > > very slowly. > > > > > > > > I would like to ask Punit to create a Vote on whether the members > > > > here want to have course or not. > > > > > > > > Will it be a classroom course or a corresponse course. > > > > > > > > Then how would the examination will be conducted. > > > > > > > > I believe the examination need to be in one place(closes to the > > > place > > > > where all the learned members can come) atleast for the first batch > > > > and the exam needs not only to check not just the knowledge but > > > also > > > > the haav bhaav of the student( could create a controversy/ but > > > please > > > > avoid it now). > > > > > > > > What kind of Certificates be given to the students. Exact matter to > > > > be written on the certificate. This can be decided during the > > > > discussion in the group itself. > > > > > > > > What kind of fee structure be of the course. Will it be free or no > > > > profit no loss. How will the fees be decided, somebody who has some > > > > accouting knowledge can come up with some idea. > > > > > > > > Who all will be in the involved in the creation of the course > > > > structure and content. > > > > > > > > Will there be any classroom session if yes then who will take up > > > the > > > > classess. > > > > > > > > The teachers who would like to come forward should they be paid for > > > > their service, if not how will the food and travel and accomodation > > > > expenses be taken care of. > > > > > > > > I personally believe we need to have a teacher for any knowledge > > > gain. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > Vivek > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 ritu ji for begginers i suggest a book published by pustak mahal i think it's title is something like horoscope reading made easy it has been written by u.c.mahajan. so far it is the best book for learning basics that i have come across. the best part is that it has been systematically designed in very easy language tables etc. kulbir ..lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > I agree - nek kaam mein der nahin karni chahiye. But first the > basic. Every one should have the same book. Can some standard be > set ? Which is the approved book / edition and where can it be > bought from ? It will eliminate a lot of needless controversy. > > Ritu > > > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > Punit ji i suggest lets do it in following parts; > > 1. basic difference bwetween lalkitab and parahsari system. > > 2. all the twelve houses one by one in detail. > > 3. 9 planets general introduction exaltation deblitation shaki raddi > > etc; friendship enemity etc. > > 4. aspects > > 5. age of planets, age of houses > > 6. 35 saala chakra and mahadasha > > 7. then planets in 12 houses combinations etc. > > 8. tewe ki darusti. > > 9. role pf palmistry vastushastra dreams etc.in my opininon lets not > > make it time bound so that every aspect can be discussed in detail. > > AGAR AAP KI IZZAZAT HO TO KAL SE HI SHURU KAR DETE HAIN. SHUBH KAAM > > MEIN DERI KAISI. MOREOVER I FEEL THAT THE BEST WAY TO LEARN LALKITAB > > IS TO TEACH. DON'T WORRY I HAVE ALL THE TIME FOR THIS IT IS A FULL > > TIME JOB FOR ME NOW A DAYS. AAP BAS ITNI MADAD KAR DIJIYE KI JO > MUJHSE > > ROOTHE HUA HAIN UNKO BHI MANA KAR IS NEK KAAM MEIN MERA SAATH DENE > KO > > MANA LEIN. THANX > > KULBIR > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Kulbir ji, > > > > > > You have taken words out of my mouth (hope it is a correct idiom). > > > After forming group constitution, the next immediate target is to > > > start discussion on lal kitab grammar. I tried in the past, but I > > > think, I am not the right person for it, especially due to the > ongoing > > > time problem. > > > > > > We are still not through with the formation of core group. But > may I > > > request you and Hameed ji to take responsibility for discussion > of lal > > > kitab grammar. I have seen you and Hameed ji doing it in desecrate > > > manner. We need some person to lead on the process. The process is > > > needed to be streamlined. > > > > > > If you are okay with the idea, let us start the discussion on lal > > > kitab grammar. Also let me know what sort of help is required > form my > > > side, if any. We can start discussion either couplet-by-couplet or > > > topic-by-topic. Please decide on which method can be the best and > > > vitalize the process. > > > > > > Waiting for feedbacks and suggestions from all members. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:12:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the group moderator has made it clear beyond doubt that > the > > > > primary objective of the group is discusion and upayas etc. is > > > > incidental. sopunitmay i have the permission to start with the > > > > houses. then planets nad so on. if someone is intersted he can > joinor > > > > contribute if someone is not intersted he can have parrallel > > > > discussions but lets start only if we get a goahead from > > > > punit.regarding certificate nobody asks for certificates or > medals in > > > > astrology the people are intersted in solving there problems if > you > > > > have the capacity this is the only certificate otherwise > certificates > > > > are of no use at all. i know a gentleman who gives a doctorate > degree > > > > from a srilanka university in jyotish by taking money the > persons who > > > > have got even a doctorate degree are still at crossroads. so > lets > > > > concntrate on learning alone. > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > <jyotish_mail> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujans, > > > > > > > > > > We all would have a copy of lalkitab with us by now, if not > please > > > > > run and get it. > > > > > > > > > > And those who have it must be breaking our heads on it. > > > > > > > > > > Any way, this is a controversial topic and i want to tread on > this > > > > > very slowly. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask Punit to create a Vote on whether the > members > > > > > here want to have course or not. > > > > > > > > > > Will it be a classroom course or a corresponse course. > > > > > > > > > > Then how would the examination will be conducted. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the examination need to be in one place(closes to > the > > > > place > > > > > where all the learned members can come) atleast for the first > batch > > > > > and the exam needs not only to check not just the knowledge > but > > > > also > > > > > the haav bhaav of the student( could create a controversy/ but > > > > please > > > > > avoid it now). > > > > > > > > > > What kind of Certificates be given to the students. Exact > matter to > > > > > be written on the certificate. This can be decided during the > > > > > discussion in the group itself. > > > > > > > > > > What kind of fee structure be of the course. Will it be free > or no > > > > > profit no loss. How will the fees be decided, somebody who > has some > > > > > accouting knowledge can come up with some idea. > > > > > > > > > > Who all will be in the involved in the creation of the course > > > > > structure and content. > > > > > > > > > > Will there be any classroom session if yes then who will take > up > > > > the > > > > > classess. > > > > > > > > > > The teachers who would like to come forward should they be > paid for > > > > > their service, if not how will the food and travel and > accomodation > > > > > expenses be taken care of. > > > > > > > > > > I personally believe we need to have a teacher for any > knowledge > > > > gain. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > Vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Is this book relevant to Lal Kitab or is it Parashari ? Ritu lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " <ceetabains> wrote: > > ritu ji for begginers i suggest a book published by pustak mahal i > think it's title is something like horoscope reading made easy it has > been written by u.c.mahajan. so far it is the best book for learning > basics that i have come across. the best part is that it has been > systematically designed in very easy language tables etc. > kulbir > > .lalkitab , " Ritu Lalit " <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > I agree - nek kaam mein der nahin karni chahiye. But first the > > basic. Every one should have the same book. Can some standard be > > set ? Which is the approved book / edition and where can it be > > bought from ? It will eliminate a lot of needless controversy. > > > > Ritu > > > > > > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > Punit ji i suggest lets do it in following parts; > > > 1. basic difference bwetween lalkitab and parahsari system. > > > 2. all the twelve houses one by one in detail. > > > 3. 9 planets general introduction exaltation deblitation shaki raddi > > > etc; friendship enemity etc. > > > 4. aspects > > > 5. age of planets, age of houses > > > 6. 35 saala chakra and mahadasha > > > 7. then planets in 12 houses combinations etc. > > > 8. tewe ki darusti. > > > 9. role pf palmistry vastushastra dreams etc.in my opininon lets not > > > make it time bound so that every aspect can be discussed in detail. > > > AGAR AAP KI IZZAZAT HO TO KAL SE HI SHURU KAR DETE HAIN. SHUBH KAAM > > > MEIN DERI KAISI. MOREOVER I FEEL THAT THE BEST WAY TO LEARN LALKITAB > > > IS TO TEACH. DON'T WORRY I HAVE ALL THE TIME FOR THIS IT IS A FULL > > > TIME JOB FOR ME NOW A DAYS. AAP BAS ITNI MADAD KAR DIJIYE KI JO > > MUJHSE > > > ROOTHE HUA HAIN UNKO BHI MANA KAR IS NEK KAAM MEIN MERA SAATH DENE > > KO > > > MANA LEIN. THANX > > > KULBIR > > > > > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > > Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > You have taken words out of my mouth (hope it is a correct idiom). > > > > After forming group constitution, the next immediate target is to > > > > start discussion on lal kitab grammar. I tried in the past, but I > > > > think, I am not the right person for it, especially due to the > > ongoing > > > > time problem. > > > > > > > > We are still not through with the formation of core group. But > > may I > > > > request you and Hameed ji to take responsibility for discussion > > of lal > > > > kitab grammar. I have seen you and Hameed ji doing it in desecrate > > > > manner. We need some person to lead on the process. The process is > > > > needed to be streamlined. > > > > > > > > If you are okay with the idea, let us start the discussion on lal > > > > kitab grammar. Also let me know what sort of help is required > > form my > > > > side, if any. We can start discussion either couplet-by- couplet or > > > > topic-by-topic. Please decide on which method can be the best and > > > > vitalize the process. > > > > > > > > Waiting for feedbacks and suggestions from all members. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:12:35 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains > > > > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the group moderator has made it clear beyond doubt that > > the > > > > > primary objective of the group is discusion and upayas etc. is > > > > > incidental. sopunitmay i have the permission to start with the > > > > > houses. then planets nad so on. if someone is intersted he can > > joinor > > > > > contribute if someone is not intersted he can have parrallel > > > > > discussions but lets start only if we get a goahead from > > > > > punit.regarding certificate nobody asks for certificates or > > medals in > > > > > astrology the people are intersted in solving there problems if > > you > > > > > have the capacity this is the only certificate otherwise > > certificates > > > > > are of no use at all. i know a gentleman who gives a doctorate > > degree > > > > > from a srilanka university in jyotish by taking money the > > persons who > > > > > have got even a doctorate degree are still at crossroads. so > > lets > > > > > concntrate on learning alone. > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > > <jyotish_mail> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujans, > > > > > > > > > > > > We all would have a copy of lalkitab with us by now, if not > > please > > > > > > run and get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > And those who have it must be breaking our heads on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any way, this is a controversial topic and i want to tread on > > this > > > > > > very slowly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask Punit to create a Vote on whether the > > members > > > > > > here want to have course or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will it be a classroom course or a corresponse course. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then how would the examination will be conducted. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the examination need to be in one place(closes to > > the > > > > > place > > > > > > where all the learned members can come) atleast for the first > > batch > > > > > > and the exam needs not only to check not just the knowledge > > but > > > > > also > > > > > > the haav bhaav of the student( could create a controversy/ but > > > > > please > > > > > > avoid it now). > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of Certificates be given to the students. Exact > > matter to > > > > > > be written on the certificate. This can be decided during the > > > > > > discussion in the group itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of fee structure be of the course. Will it be free > > or no > > > > > > profit no loss. How will the fees be decided, somebody who > > has some > > > > > > accouting knowledge can come up with some idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > Who all will be in the involved in the creation of the course > > > > > > structure and content. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will there be any classroom session if yes then who will take > > up > > > > > the > > > > > > classess. > > > > > > > > > > > > The teachers who would like to come forward should they be > > paid for > > > > > > their service, if not how will the food and travel and > > accomodation > > > > > > expenses be taken care of. > > > > > > > > > > > > I personally believe we need to have a teacher for any > > knowledge > > > > > gain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > Vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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