Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Kulbir Jee, I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and did read about him in a bit more detail in the past few years when I read a detailed history of India. But I haven't had the luxury of reading his books and chances are minimal that I will seek out those books. However, since you have introduced this topic, can you please enlighten all of us and tell us about this connection (LalKitab and AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as a seriously sincere request. This way, you will enlighten us all (most of whom will never get a chance to read those books.) Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains wrote: Bhatia sahib;kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai jo AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar aapne is kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut important pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.with respectkulbir vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Bhtaia sahib i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a sidh purush. the system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally lost was revived by him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some souls by using his son Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as dictated by them filhaal to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo practices aur traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra sambandh hai. i am working on itand god willing i shall get the details soon. kulbir bains lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > Kulbir Jee, > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and did read about him in a bit more detail in the past few years when I read a detailed history of India. But I haven't had the luxury of reading his books and chances are minimal that I will seek out those books. > > However, since you have introduced this topic, can you please enlighten all of us and tell us about this connection (LalKitab and AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as a seriously sincere request. This way, you will enlighten us all (most of whom will never get a chance to read those books.) > Respectfully, > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > Bhatia sahib; > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai jo > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar aapne is > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut important > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor. > with respect > kulbir > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 dera kulbir ji i talked to one old fellow from urbiksathan he said i will get you the book from al baruni he is 70 yr old from urbiksthan than i will show it to mr rajinder if he will like to see as he live metro dc area its true sh roop joshi was saint like but bruni was world famous scholar of tenth century regards rajider --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains wrote: > > Bhtaia sahib > i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a sidh > purush. the > system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally lost > was revived by > him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some souls > by using his son > Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as > dictated by them filhaal > to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo > practices aur > traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra > sambandh hai. i am > working on itand god willing i shall get the details > soon. > kulbir bains > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > Kulbir Jee, > > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and did > read about him > in a bit more detail in the past few years when I > read a detailed > history of India. But I haven't had the luxury of > reading his books > and chances are minimal that I will seek out those > books. > > > > However, since you have introduced this topic, can > you please > enlighten all of us and tell us about this > connection (LalKitab and > AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as a > seriously sincere > request. This way, you will enlighten us all (most > of whom will never > get a chance to read those books.) > > Respectfully, > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > Bhatia sahib; > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab > ke bare suna hai > jo > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL > PAHLE. Agar aapne > is > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka > ik bahut important > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise > dekhna zaroor. > > with respect > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 THANX RAJINDER JI NOW I RECALL THAT IT WAS YOU ONLY WHO MET ME IN A CHAT ROOM AND ASKED WHO WROTE LALKITAB I SAID PT. JOSHI YOU SAID FIND OUT ABOUT ALBARUNI. YOU DIDN'T MEET ME AGAIN ALTHOUGH I WAS DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR YOU I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU ARE FROM OUR GROUP. I LABORED REALLY HARD TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOOK BY ALBARUNI BUT THAT IS TOO LITTLE CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US SOME THING MORE ABPOUT IT. THANX KULBIR lalkitab , Rajinder Nath <jinderman> wrote: > dera kulbir ji > i talked to one old fellow from urbiksathan > he said i will get you the book from al baruni he is > 70 yr old from urbiksthan > than i will show it to mr rajinder if he will like to > see as he live metro dc area > its true sh roop joshi was saint like but > bruni was world famous scholar of tenth century > regards > rajider > --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > Bhtaia sahib > > i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a sidh > > purush. the > > system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally lost > > was revived by > > him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some souls > > by using his son > > Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as > > dictated by them filhaal > > to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo > > practices aur > > traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra > > sambandh hai. i am > > working on itand god willing i shall get the details > > soon. > > kulbir bains > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > Kulbir Jee, > > > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and did > > read about him > > in a bit more detail in the past few years when I > > read a detailed > > history of India. But I haven't had the luxury of > > reading his books > > and chances are minimal that I will seek out those > > books. > > > > > > However, since you have introduced this topic, can > > you please > > enlighten all of us and tell us about this > > connection (LalKitab and > > AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as a > > seriously sincere > > request. This way, you will enlighten us all (most > > of whom will never > > get a chance to read those books.) > > > Respectfully, > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > Bhatia sahib; > > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab > > ke bare suna hai > > jo > > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL > > PAHLE. Agar aapne > > is > > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka > > ik bahut important > > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise > > dekhna zaroor. > > > with respect > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Kulbir ji. I do once a while post my message on this grp recently i am interested to find books on al baruni and hope this friend of mine will help me check and see if saturn in fifth house is cause of political prison my experience if native has saturn in leo sign he in his life time experience either psycologicalprison or really go to prison how about if mar and saturn in leo does this make a bad case rajinder --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains wrote: > > THANX RAJINDER JI NOW I RECALL THAT IT WAS YOU ONLY > WHO MET ME IN A > CHAT ROOM AND ASKED WHO WROTE LALKITAB I SAID PT. > JOSHI YOU SAID FIND > OUT ABOUT ALBARUNI. YOU DIDN'T MEET ME AGAIN > ALTHOUGH I WAS > DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR YOU I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT > YOU ARE FROM OUR > GROUP. I LABORED REALLY HARD TO GET INFORMATION > ABOUT THE BOOK BY > ALBARUNI BUT THAT IS TOO LITTLE CAN YOU PLEASE TELL > US SOME THING MORE > ABPOUT IT. > THANX > KULBIR > > lalkitab , Rajinder Nath > <jinderman> wrote: > > dera kulbir ji > > i talked to one old fellow from urbiksathan > > he said i will get you the book from al baruni he > is > > 70 yr old from urbiksthan > > than i will show it to mr rajinder if he will like > to > > see as he live metro dc area > > its true sh roop joshi was saint like but > > bruni was world famous scholar of tenth century > > regards > > rajider > > --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhtaia sahib > > > i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a > sidh > > > purush. the > > > system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally > lost > > > was revived by > > > him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some > souls > > > by using his son > > > Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as > > > dictated by them filhaal > > > to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo > > > practices aur > > > traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra > > > sambandh hai. i am > > > working on itand god willing i shall get the > details > > > soon. > > > kulbir bains > > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > > Kulbir Jee, > > > > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and > did > > > read about him > > > in a bit more detail in the past few years when > I > > > read a detailed > > > history of India. But I haven't had the luxury > of > > > reading his books > > > and chances are minimal that I will seek out > those > > > books. > > > > > > > > However, since you have introduced this topic, > can > > > you please > > > enlighten all of us and tell us about this > > > connection (LalKitab and > > > AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as > a > > > seriously sincere > > > request. This way, you will enlighten us all > (most > > > of whom will never > > > get a chance to read those books.) > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhatia sahib; > > > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki > kitab > > > ke bare suna hai > > > jo > > > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 > SAAL > > > PAHLE. Agar aapne > > > is > > > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab > ka > > > ik bahut important > > > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise > > > dekhna zaroor. > > > > with respect > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Rajinder nath ji, Lalkitab has incorporations from many other previous texts, the most prominent text is 1. AL –HAKIM an Arabic text now available in fragments. Then there are 2.ILLM-UL-GAIB a persian text by Farkhand Afaghani. 3. ILLM-E- NAZOOM by an Egyptian palmist Gaffar. 4. ILLM-UL-KAIFA by Mustafa or Kustafa Gillnai. The ARABA by Begum Sanaullah, Gemini Sutar and KHANNAN KE BACAHN by Pt. Devi dayal have also been consulted. All these books were available at NAULAAKHA BAZAAR, MACHI HATA and SHAH ALAMI GATE at Lahore. kulbir lalkitab , Rajinder Nath <jinderman> wrote: > dera kulbir ji > i talked to one old fellow from urbiksathan > he said i will get you the book from al baruni he is > 70 yr old from urbiksthan > than i will show it to mr rajinder if he will like to > see as he live metro dc area > its true sh roop joshi was saint like but > bruni was world famous scholar of tenth century > regards > rajider > --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > Bhtaia sahib > > i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a sidh > > purush. the > > system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally lost > > was revived by > > him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some souls > > by using his son > > Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as > > dictated by them filhaal > > to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo > > practices aur > > traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra > > sambandh hai. i am > > working on itand god willing i shall get the details > > soon. > > kulbir bains > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > Kulbir Jee, > > > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and did > > read about him > > in a bit more detail in the past few years when I > > read a detailed > > history of India. But I haven't had the luxury of > > reading his books > > and chances are minimal that I will seek out those > > books. > > > > > > However, since you have introduced this topic, can > > you please > > enlighten all of us and tell us about this > > connection (LalKitab and > > AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as a > > seriously sincere > > request. This way, you will enlighten us all (most > > of whom will never > > get a chance to read those books.) > > > Respectfully, > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > Bhatia sahib; > > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab > > ke bare suna hai > > jo > > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL > > PAHLE. Agar aapne > > is > > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka > > ik bahut important > > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise > > dekhna zaroor. > > > with respect > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 dear kulbir i got identica message from a friend from uzbiksthan. he know little english but was in pakistan during afghan rusian war,where he picked panjabi .now he lived in virginia in usa he comes everyweekend to my home just for gap shap he said he saw in abook store( ilm e nazume hind) book in lahore he also called his family from my home in urbiksthan to find any bbok on al bruni and will help me to translate from his language as most of his age peple knows about al bruni and his work kulbir i did not know you are from chandigarh i finish high scool in chandigarh than went to doaba college jullunder my nephew still work for ut as information officer he is sending me few books on astrology with one of his father freiend coming to usa in nov 5th i think agra or delhi may be some famous book store may have copi of al baruni work particularly ilm e nazuma hind rember this poem a man do not be proud of your fate kitne badal barsei daria milea payase hei phir be smundaer kitane kal phaul barse thea aaj dekeh hea pathar barsate ban ban ke bighartea he mukadar kitanea i may not translate as good but i hope you will get the meaning rajinder nath --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains wrote: > > Rajinder nath ji, Lalkitab has incorporations from > many other previous > texts, the most prominent text is 1. AL –HAKIM an > Arabic text now > available in fragments. > Then there are 2.ILLM-UL-GAIB a persian text by > Farkhand Afaghani. > 3. ILLM-E- NAZOOM by an Egyptian palmist Gaffar. > 4. ILLM-UL-KAIFA by Mustafa or Kustafa Gillnai. > The ARABA by Begum Sanaullah, Gemini Sutar and > KHANNAN KE BACAHN by > Pt. Devi dayal have also been consulted. All these > books were > available at NAULAAKHA BAZAAR, MACHI HATA and SHAH > ALAMI GATE at Lahore. > > kulbir > > lalkitab , Rajinder Nath > <jinderman> wrote: > > dera kulbir ji > > i talked to one old fellow from urbiksathan > > he said i will get you the book from al baruni he > is > > 70 yr old from urbiksthan > > than i will show it to mr rajinder if he will like > to > > see as he live metro dc area > > its true sh roop joshi was saint like but > > bruni was world famous scholar of tenth century > > regards > > rajider > > --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhtaia sahib > > > i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a > sidh > > > purush. the > > > system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally > lost > > > was revived by > > > him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some > souls > > > by using his son > > > Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as > > > dictated by them filhaal > > > to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo > > > practices aur > > > traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra > > > sambandh hai. i am > > > working on itand god willing i shall get the > details > > > soon. > > > kulbir bains > > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > > Kulbir Jee, > > > > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and > did > > > read about him > > > in a bit more detail in the past few years when > I > > > read a detailed > > > history of India. But I haven't had the luxury > of > > > reading his books > > > and chances are minimal that I will seek out > those > > > books. > > > > > > > > However, since you have introduced this topic, > can > > > you please > > > enlighten all of us and tell us about this > > > connection (LalKitab and > > > AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as > a > > > seriously sincere > > > request. This way, you will enlighten us all > (most > > > of whom will never > > > get a chance to read those books.) > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhatia sahib; > > > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki > kitab > > > ke bare suna hai > > > jo > > > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 > SAAL > > > PAHLE. Agar aapne > > > is > > > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab > ka > > > ik bahut important > > > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise > > > dekhna zaroor. > > > > with respect > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Sir, maybe your friend has a authentic volume the volume here is fabricated. but rest of the books are still available at lahore you must be having some contact in pakistan. please try to get these books also. kulbir lalkitab , Rajinder Nath <jinderman> wrote: > dear kulbir > i got identica message from a friend from uzbiksthan. > he know little english but was in pakistan during > afghan rusian > war,where he picked panjabi .now he lived in virginia > in usa > he comes everyweekend to my home just for gap shap > > he said he saw in abook store( ilm e nazume hind) > book in lahore > he also called his family from my home in urbiksthan > to find any bbok > on al bruni and will help me to translate from his > language as most of his age peple knows about al bruni > and his work > kulbir i did not know you are from chandigarh i finish > high scool in chandigarh than went to doaba college > jullunder > my nephew still work for ut as information officer > he is sending me few books on astrology with one of > his father freiend coming to usa in nov 5th > i think agra or delhi may be some famous book store > may have copi of al baruni work particularly ilm e > nazuma hind > rember this poem > a man do not be proud of your fate > kitne badal barsei daria milea payase hei phir be > smundaer kitane > kal phaul barse thea aaj dekeh hea pathar barsate > ban ban ke bighartea he mukadar kitanea > i may not translate as good but i hope you will get > the meaning > rajinder nath > --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > Rajinder nath ji, Lalkitab has incorporations from > > many other previous > > texts, the most prominent text is 1. AL –HAKIM an > > Arabic text now > > available in fragments. > > Then there are 2.ILLM-UL-GAIB a persian text by > > Farkhand Afaghani. > > 3. ILLM-E- NAZOOM by an Egyptian palmist Gaffar. > > 4. ILLM-UL-KAIFA by Mustafa or Kustafa Gillnai. > > The ARABA by Begum Sanaullah, Gemini Sutar and > > KHANNAN KE BACAHN by > > Pt. Devi dayal have also been consulted. All these > > books were > > available at NAULAAKHA BAZAAR, MACHI HATA and SHAH > > ALAMI GATE at Lahore. > > > > kulbir > > > > lalkitab , Rajinder Nath > > <jinderman> wrote: > > > dera kulbir ji > > > i talked to one old fellow from urbiksathan > > > he said i will get you the book from al baruni he > > is > > > 70 yr old from urbiksthan > > > than i will show it to mr rajinder if he will like > > to > > > see as he live metro dc area > > > its true sh roop joshi was saint like but > > > bruni was world famous scholar of tenth century > > > regards > > > rajider > > > --- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Bhtaia sahib > > > > i completely agree with you that pt.joshi was a > > sidh > > > > purush. the > > > > system of nazumat or jyotish which was totally > > lost > > > > was revived by > > > > him by the system of hazrat. he invoked some > > souls > > > > by using his son > > > > Pt. Som dutt as a a medium and noted down as > > > > dictated by them filhaal > > > > to main itna hibata sakta hoon ki albaruni ne jo > > > > practices aur > > > > traditions bataiyen hain unka lalkitab se gahra > > > > sambandh hai. i am > > > > working on itand god willing i shall get the > > details > > > > soon. > > > > kulbir bains > > > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > > > Kulbir Jee, > > > > > I read about AlBaruni when I was in school and > > did > > > > read about him > > > > in a bit more detail in the past few years when > > I > > > > read a detailed > > > > history of India. But I haven't had the luxury > > of > > > > reading his books > > > > and chances are minimal that I will seek out > > those > > > > books. > > > > > > > > > > However, since you have introduced this topic, > > can > > > > you please > > > > enlighten all of us and tell us about this > > > > connection (LalKitab and > > > > AlBaruni/his writings.) Please consider this as > > a > > > > seriously sincere > > > > request. This way, you will enlighten us all > > (most > > > > of whom will never > > > > get a chance to read those books.) > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhatia sahib; > > > > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki > > kitab > > > > ke bare suna hai > > > > jo > > > > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 > > SAAL > > > > PAHLE. Agar aapne > > > > is > > > > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab > > ka > > > > ik bahut important > > > > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise > > > > dekhna zaroor. > > > > > with respect > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote > > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. 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