Question:- Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour?

[Guest guest]

Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee’s

mail that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

 

Is there a reason for it? Apart from the

obvious reason … of LK being mangal etc…

any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

[Guest guest]

Sheikh Sahib and friends,

Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been explicitly stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red. Shining red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't know the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-LalKitab days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The LalKitab of astrology is "duniyavee hisaab kitab" and thus, one of the (many) reasons for the color to be red.

Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red, other colors will yield "manhoos nateejay."

 

In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being an entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to Sun (Sun's charioter "Arun" etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk floated by Arun publications. Not only did "Doktor" Arun publish pathetically bad transliterations but he also floated this "Arun" theory to muddy the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his attention; he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was "I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares about quality." LalKitab system had one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such thing as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed by Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come forward and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

 

Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was quite close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories about Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to be especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get to that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even learning from a Guru.

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez wrote:

 

 

Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee’s mail that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

 

Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

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Respected Rajinderji,

 

Will it be possible for you to share the

stories that you heard from Mr. Mahraj Arora … that is, if this is not a breach of ethics,

morality etc.

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rajinder Bhatia

[rajinderbhatia2002]

20 October 2004 07:21

lalkitab

Re: [lalkitab] Question:-

Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sheikh Sahib and friends,

 

 

Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been explicitly stated

that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red. Shining red color becomes

Mangal 'bad' (malefic

mars.) Sorry, I don't know the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since

pre-LalKitab days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The

LalKitab of astrology is " duniyavee

hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the (many) reasons for the

color to be red.

 

 

Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red, other

colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

 

 

 

 

 

In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being an entity

of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to Sun (Sun's

charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk floated by

Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish pathetically

bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to

muddy the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his

attention; he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you

have mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab

system had one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand

Jee. Also, no such thing as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal

(as claimed by Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali

Pundits now to vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come

forward and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

 

 

 

 

 

Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New Jersey and had

the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a retired Deputy Secretary, Government

of India. Shri Arora was quite close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told

me some amazing stories about Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens

my belief that one has to be especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand

Jee - one can't get to that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt

Ashant) or even learning from a Guru.

 

 

 

 

 

Respectfully,

 

 

Rajinder Bhatia

 

 

 

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

<pervez wrote:

 

 

Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I

read in LalKitabees mail that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining

red colour.

 

Is there a reason for it? Apart from the

obvious reason of LK being mangal

etc any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bhatia sahib;

kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai jo

AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar aapne is

kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut important

pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.

with respect

kulbir

 

lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

>

> Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been explicitly

stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red. Shining

red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't know

the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-LalKitab

days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The LalKitab

of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the (many)

reasons for the color to be red.

> Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red, other

colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

>

> In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being an

entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to Sun

(Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk floated

by Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish pathetically

bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to muddy

the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his attention;

he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you have

mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab system had

one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such thing

as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed by

Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to

vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come forward

and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

>

> Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New

Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a

retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was quite

close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories about

Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to be

especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get to

that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even

learning from a Guru.

>

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...> wrote:

>

>

> Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's mail

that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

>

>

>

> Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK

being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

>

>

>

> bye

>

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vote. - Register online to vote today!

[Guest guest]

Kulbirji,

 

I have heard about AL-BARNI and Ilm-e-nazum-e-hind ... but as I understood ... it is a lost

book ... do you have a copy of it?

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kulbir Singh

Bains [ceetabains]

20 October 2004 14:25

lalkitab

[lalkitab] Re: Question:-

Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour?

 

 

 

Bhatia sahib;

kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab

ke bare suna hai jo

AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL

PAHLE. Agar aapne is

kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka

ik bahut important

pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise

dekhna zaroor.

with respect

kulbir

 

lalkitab ,

Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

>

> Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It

has been explicitly

stated that the color of LalKitab must be

non-shining red. Shining

red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.)

Sorry, I don't know

the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition

since pre-LalKitab

days to have the cover of the ledger books in red

color. The LalKitab

of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab "

and thus, one of the (many)

reasons for the color to be red.

> Needless to re-state that the cover of the

book MUST be red, other

colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

>

> In another letter, a point has been raised

about LalKitab being an

entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an

entity belonging to Sun

(Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is

absolutely nonsensical bunk floated

by Arun publications. Not only did

" Doktor " Arun publish pathetically

bad transliterations but he also floated this

" Arun " theory to muddy

the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor

quality to his attention;

he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was

" I think you have

mistaken me for someone who cares about

quality. " LalKitab system had

one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee.

Also, no such thing

as the system being prevalent in Himachal and

Garhwal (as claimed by

Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali

Pundits now to

vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they

could come forward

and help us all in deciphering the LK

system.

>

> Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I

happened to be in New

Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting

Shri Maharaj Arora, a

retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India.

Shri Arora was quite

close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some

amazing stories about

Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief

that one has to be

especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee -

one can't get to

that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt

Ashant) or even

learning from a Guru.

>

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read

in LalKitabee's mail

that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining

red colour.

>

>

>

> Is there a reason for it? Apart from the

obvious reason … of LK

being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret)

reason as well?

>

>

>

> bye

>

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vote. - Register online to vote

today!

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hseikh sahib; yes it is unfortunately correct that this is a lost

book but there are references about this book in texts and some pages

are also available

kulbir

lalkitab , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed " <pervez@s...>

wrote:

> Kulbirji,

>

> I have heard about AL-BARNI and Ilm-e-nazum-e-hind ... but as I

understood

> ... it is a lost book ... do you have a copy of it?

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

>

> _____

>

> Kulbir Singh Bains [ceetabains]

> 20 October 2004 14:25

> lalkitab

> [lalkitab] Re: Question:- Can LK cover be of black

cloth/colour?

>

>

> Bhatia sahib;

> kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai

jo

> AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar aapne

is

> kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut important

> pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.

> with respect

> kulbir

>

> lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

> <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> >

> > Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> > Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been explicitly

> stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red. Shining

> red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't know

> the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-LalKitab

> days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The

LalKitab

> of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the

(many)

> reasons for the color to be red.

> > Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red,

other

> colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

> >

> > In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being

an

> entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to

Sun

> (Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk

floated

> by Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish

pathetically

> bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to

muddy

> the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his

attention;

> he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you have

> mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab system

had

> one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such thing

> as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed

by

> Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to

> vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come forward

> and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

> >

> > Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New

> Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a

> retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was

quite

> close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories

about

> Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to be

> especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get to

> that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even

> learning from a Guru.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Rajinder Bhatia

> >

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's

mail

> that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

> >

> >

> >

> > Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK

> being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

> >

> >

> >

> > bye

> >

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vote. - Register online to vote today!

>

 

[Guest guest]

sheikh sahib if you want to know more about the book ilm-e-nazum-e-

hind by albaruni kindly contact shri nand kishore. he definetely

knows the book from where i have picked this reference to lalkitab

kulbir

lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains "

<ceetabains> wrote:

>

> hseikh sahib; yes it is unfortunately correct that this is a lost

> book but there are references about this book in texts and some

pages

> are also available

> kulbir

> lalkitab , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

<pervez@s...>

> wrote:

> > Kulbirji,

> >

> > I have heard about AL-BARNI and Ilm-e-nazum-e-hind ... but as I

> understood

> > ... it is a lost book ... do you have a copy of it?

> >

> > bye

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Kulbir Singh Bains [ceetabains]

> > 20 October 2004 14:25

> > lalkitab

> > [lalkitab] Re: Question:- Can LK cover be of black

> cloth/colour?

> >

> >

> > Bhatia sahib;

> > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai

> jo

> > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar

aapne

> is

> > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut

important

> > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.

> > with respect

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

> > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> > > Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been

explicitly

> > stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red.

Shining

> > red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't

know

> > the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-

LalKitab

> > days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The

> LalKitab

> > of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the

> (many)

> > reasons for the color to be red.

> > > Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red,

> other

> > colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

> > >

> > > In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being

> an

> > entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to

> Sun

> > (Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk

> floated

> > by Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish

> pathetically

> > bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to

> muddy

> > the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his

> attention;

> > he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you have

> > mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab system

> had

> > one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such

thing

> > as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed

> by

> > Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to

> > vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come

forward

> > and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New

> > Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a

> > retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was

> quite

> > close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories

> about

> > Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to

be

> > especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get

to

> > that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even

> > learning from a Guru.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > > Rajinder Bhatia

> > >

> > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's

> mail

> > that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK

> > being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > bye

> > >

> > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vote. - Register online to vote today!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kulbir ji,

 

Please don't anyone's names like this. Nandkishore ji is nowhere

connected with this discussion. How can you expect other one to keep

quiet, if you keep pulling his name in the discussion like this?

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:13:13 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains

<ceetabains wrote:

>

>

> sheikh sahib if you want to know more about the book ilm-e-nazum-e-

> hind by albaruni kindly contact shri nand kishore. he definetely

> knows the book from where i have picked this reference to lalkitab

> kulbir

> lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains "

>

>

> <ceetabains> wrote:

> >

> > hseikh sahib; yes it is unfortunately correct that this is a lost

> > book but there are references about this book in texts and some

> pages

> > are also available

> > kulbir

> > lalkitab , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> <pervez@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > Kulbirji,

> > >

> > > I have heard about AL-BARNI and Ilm-e-nazum-e-hind ... but as I

> > understood

> > > ... it is a lost book ... do you have a copy of it?

> > >

> > > bye

> > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Kulbir Singh Bains [ceetabains]

> > > 20 October 2004 14:25

> > > lalkitab

> > > [lalkitab] Re: Question:- Can LK cover be of black

> > cloth/colour?

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhatia sahib;

> > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai

> > jo

> > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar

> aapne

> > is

> > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut

> important

> > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.

> > > with respect

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

> > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> > > > Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been

> explicitly

> > > stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red.

> Shining

> > > red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't

> know

> > > the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-

> LalKitab

> > > days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The

> > LalKitab

> > > of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the

> > (many)

> > > reasons for the color to be red.

> > > > Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red,

> > other

> > > colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

> > > >

> > > > In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being

> > an

> > > entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to

> > Sun

> > > (Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk

> > floated

> > > by Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish

> > pathetically

> > > bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to

> > muddy

> > > the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his

> > attention;

> > > he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you have

> > > mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab system

> > had

> > > one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such

> thing

> > > as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed

> > by

> > > Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to

> > > vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come

> forward

> > > and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

> > > >

> > > > Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New

> > > Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a

> > > retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was

> > quite

> > > close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories

> > about

> > > Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to

> be

> > > especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get

> to

> > > that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even

> > > learning from a Guru.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully,

> > > > Rajinder Bhatia

> > > >

> > > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's

> > mail

> > > that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK

> > > being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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OK punit but let me correct myself the correct name of the book is

AIN-I-NAZUM-E-HIND Ainh maening constitution and NOT IL... as i

inadvertently wrote earlier.

kulbir

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Kulbir ji,

>

> Please don't anyone's names like this. Nandkishore ji is nowhere

> connected with this discussion. How can you expect other one to keep

> quiet, if you keep pulling his name in the discussion like this?

>

> Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

>

>

>

> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:13:13 -0000, Kulbir Singh Bains

> <ceetabains> wrote:

> >

> >

> > sheikh sahib if you want to know more about the book ilm-e-nazum-e-

> > hind by albaruni kindly contact shri nand kishore. he definetely

> > knows the book from where i have picked this reference to lalkitab

> > kulbir

> > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains "

> >

> >

> > <ceetabains> wrote:

> > >

> > > hseikh sahib; yes it is unfortunately correct that this is a lost

> > > book but there are references about this book in texts and some

> > pages

> > > are also available

> > > kulbir

> > > lalkitab , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> > <pervez@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Kulbirji,

> > > >

> > > > I have heard about AL-BARNI and Ilm-e-nazum-e-hind ... but as I

> > > understood

> > > > ... it is a lost book ... do you have a copy of it?

> > > >

> > > > bye

> > > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Kulbir Singh Bains [ceetabains]

> > > > 20 October 2004 14:25

> > > > lalkitab

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: Question:- Can LK cover be of black

> > > cloth/colour?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhatia sahib;

> > > > kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai

> > > jo

> > > > AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar

> > aapne

> > > is

> > > > kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut

> > important

> > > > pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.

> > > > with respect

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

> > > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> > > > > Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been

> > explicitly

> > > > stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red.

> > Shining

> > > > red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't

> > know

> > > > the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-

> > LalKitab

> > > > days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The

> > > LalKitab

> > > > of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the

> > > (many)

> > > > reasons for the color to be red.

> > > > > Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red,

> > > other

> > > > colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

> > > > >

> > > > > In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being

> > > an

> > > > entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to

> > > Sun

> > > > (Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk

> > > floated

> > > > by Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish

> > > pathetically

> > > > bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to

> > > muddy

> > > > the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his

> > > attention;

> > > > he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you have

> > > > mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab system

> > > had

> > > > one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such

> > thing

> > > > as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed

> > > by

> > > > Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to

> > > > vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come

> > forward

> > > > and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

> > > > >

> > > > > Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New

> > > > Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a

> > > > retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was

> > > quite

> > > > close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories

> > > about

> > > > Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to

> > be

> > > > especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get

> > to

> > > > that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even

> > > > learning from a Guru.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > Rajinder Bhatia

> > > > >

> > > > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's

> > > mail

> > > > that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason …

of LK

> > > > being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > bye

> > > > >

> > > > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today!

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Sheikh sahib baat badi siddhi si hai baki ke elments to hain par

mangal nek ke element ke bina surya ki ashiyan kaise bane. aur jab

tak surya ki ashiyan na bane tab tak jyotish rupi prakash man mein

kaise jagega; seminar mein mohammad hanif sahib ka lecture nahin suna

tha agar yaad nahin to umesh se cd ki copy le lo; sambhalane layak

chiz hai. aur raha black colour ka swall to socho ki phir kya banega

par meri salah mano to is kitab ke saath panga na hi lo ache rahoge.

kulbir

lalkitab , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed " <pervez@s...>

wrote:

> Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's mail

that LK

> says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

>

> Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK

being mangal

> etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

[Guest guest]

sheikh sahib apne group member umesh ji ke pass urdu ki kuch purani

kitaben hain jinme iska reference aur kuch original as it is pannon

ki caligraphic copy hai. aap unse contact kar lo iske illawa unke

pass ain-i-nazum-e-falak, ain-i-kismat bhi padi hai palmistry ka bhi

isme acha material hai.aur lalkitab ke panchon editions ki original

books padi hain aap to delhi mein hi rahte ho aur urdu bhi jaante ho

kissi din jakkar dekh aao na.

kulbir

 

lalkitab , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed " <pervez@s...>

wrote:

> Kulbirji,

>

> I have heard about AL-BARNI and Ilm-e-nazum-e-hind ... but as I

understood

> ... it is a lost book ... do you have a copy of it?

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

>

> _____

>

> Kulbir Singh Bains [ceetabains]

> 20 October 2004 14:25

> lalkitab

> [lalkitab] Re: Question:- Can LK cover be of black

cloth/colour?

>

>

> Bhatia sahib;

> kya aapne kabhi ILM-E-NAZUM-E-HIND naam ki kitab ke bare suna hai

jo

> AL-BARNI NE LIKHI THI KARIB AAJ SE KOI 1000 SAAL PAHLE. Agar aapne

is

> kitab ke bare mein nahin suna to aap lalkitab ka ik bahut important

> pahlu chod rahe hain. kahin se mil sake to ise dekhna zaroor.

> with respect

> kulbir

>

> lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

> <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> >

> > Sheikh Sahib and friends,

> > Lal Kitab is an entity belonging to Mars. It has been explicitly

> stated that the color of LalKitab must be non-shining red. Shining

> red color becomes Mangal 'bad' (malefic mars.) Sorry, I don't know

> the esoteric secret but it has been a tradition since pre-LalKitab

> days to have the cover of the ledger books in red color. The

LalKitab

> of astrology is " duniyavee hisaab kitab " and thus, one of the

(many)

> reasons for the color to be red.

> > Needless to re-state that the cover of the book MUST be red,

other

> colors will yield " manhoos nateejay. "

> >

> > In another letter, a point has been raised about LalKitab being

an

> entity of the Sun. To say that LalKitab is an entity belonging to

Sun

> (Sun's charioter " Arun " etc.) is absolutely nonsensical bunk

floated

> by Arun publications. Not only did " Doktor " Arun publish

pathetically

> bad transliterations but he also floated this " Arun " theory to

muddy

> the waters. Years ago, I brought this poor quality to his

attention;

> he laughed unabashedly and his attitude was " I think you have

> mistaken me for someone who cares about quality. " LalKitab system

had

> one and only one originator, Pt Roop Chand Jee. Also, no such thing

> as the system being prevalent in Himachal and Garhwal (as claimed

by

> Pt Ashant.) Where are those Himchali and Garhwali Pundits now to

> vouch for this (half-baked) theory? I wish they could come forward

> and help us all in deciphering the LK system.

> >

> > Incidentally, this Sunday (10/17/2004), I happened to be in New

> Jersey and had the good fortune of meeting Shri Maharaj Arora, a

> retired Deputy Secretary, Government of India. Shri Arora was

quite

> close to Pandit Roop Chand jee and told me some amazing stories

about

> Pt Jee. This conversation strengthens my belief that one has to be

> especially blessed to be like Pt Roop Chand Jee - one can't get to

> that level by reading books (as claimed by Pt Ashant) or even

> learning from a Guru.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Rajinder Bhatia

> >

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed <pervez@s...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Can LK cover be of black cloth/colour? I read in LalKitabee's

mail

> that LK says the cover has to be of non-shining red colour.

> >

> >

> >

> > Is there a reason for it? Apart from the obvious reason … of LK

> being mangal etc… any esoteric (secret) reason as well?

> >

> >

> >

> > bye

> >

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vote. - Register online to vote today!

>