Do we want the experts to run away from this forum?

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Dear Muditji,

 

Good reply/explanation.

 

Dear members, it is necessary this issue

be sorted out. It is no use running under the cover of –ive fetches –ive …

even though this is true but some issues have to be decently buried. This is

one of those.

 

I fear that the experts … who are

the life blood of this forum … are simply going to shy away from offering

solutions … because at any time any issue can be used to whack the

experts integrity … who in any case acknowledge that they are offering

solutions without consideration … even though they are professional

astrologers.

 

As Rakesh Sehgal

aptly puts it … this forum is zilch without these experts.

 

Members, you and I are losers … we

have to assure the experts, that we do not doubt their integrity … rather

we appreciate and value their commitment to the cause.

 

Friends … if this is not done then

we damage ourselves only. Where else would we go to get solutions … I

know of no other place?

 

Here … one expert answers the

question … others check and offer their comments when ever appropriate …

such a rare offering.

 

I have been to a few astrologers on my friends recommendation … (no, none on this forum) …

who made me do remedies which later on was proven to me were wrong and

damaging. A friend of mine suffers likewise.

 

Here I learnt the basics of LK …

and now, I have enough confidence to atleast check

that the remedies suggested to me are not violating any tenet of LK. This is a

huge advantage. Please remember … each year … varshphal

changes and we require different remedies. God forbid that any of us are made

to perform remedies that are harmful.

 

Friends I see a power struggle here …

though why it is there and for what … I do not know.

 

But I know, if

experts stop contributing … we are back to square one. Do we want this?

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mudit982001

[mudit982001]

15 October 2004 12:09

lalkitab

[lalkitab] RE: SEMINAR

DATED 19-09.-2004

 

 

 

Dear all members,

First of all i thank all those who have tried to

understand my

intentions behind organising the seminar. All

those who attended the

seminar are witness that the only purpose was to

do some service to

this graet book. I have gained a lot through this

book and it was a

small effort to repay something.

I am thankful to this group and Shri Punit in

particular that they

lend me the opportunity to do some humble service.

Punit ji i must

say your doubts are unfounded, You were made the

chief guest for the

occasion and the seminar started three hours late

because we

continued to wait for you. I personally tried to

contact on your

mobile number so many times but your mobile was

switched off. But one

day earlier you had given your confirmation to

attend the seminar to

me on phone. About the seminar events i needn't

say much as the

members who attended have clearly listed them and

also the fact that

the material distributed had Lalkitab

inscribed on it and

the certificates were also from your side.

But i am terribly pained at the recent

developments at the group

questioning my very motives. I promise to leave

astrology even if one

of the allegations levelled against me is

substainted in any way.

Regarding Lalkitab course the request came from

the group, I only

responded. I agree with Bhushan Priya that

learning astrology is not

that easy by itself, myself, lalkitabee and

prabhakar tried to

formulate some kind of guidelines for the aspirants.

As you say that

you have problems inspite of putting in two years

labour, the same

was the case with kulbir but once he got the

guidelines from me ,

prabhakr and lalkitabee he started picking up

fast. We were only

trying to repeat this experiment with all those

who desire to learn.

I again challenge anyone to prove any material

motive behind the

seminar event or this teaching course.

But Punit I didn't expect that from you. i still

can't understand

what you mean things being done at your back to benefit

a few. How do

you say that YOUR group was misused. For your kind

information I too

have contributed in grooming this group. Kindly

check the previous

messages and you will get the clear picture. This

group is not your

sole property; Rajinder Bhatia, Upadhyia,

Lalkitabee, Prabhakar,

Khattar and many others have contributed a lot in

making this group a

success. There is no pointing finger from them. Do

you think that by

just opening the group you have the final word.

May I ask does your

contribution match with any of the above listed.

Regarding opening

the group I think it's free and their are many

groups opened

everyday. What makes a group a success is the

members who work and

the group belongs to them also. May i know what

expertise you have

about Lal Kitab. Tell me how many horoscopes you

have analysed, did

thier Darusti and recommended the upayas? See for

yourself how many

members ask you for analysis of thier kundalis.

You have levelled

totally unsubstantiated and uncalled comments. Ask

the members who

tried to contact me directly, i told them to apply

in the forum, .

I think you felt insecure about your mission which

you only know and

is hidden to us.

I send the 4 cds to prabhakr ji who is in the

process of editing and

making one or two out of them by deleting

unneccessary material. We

are not even charging any member for it.

Incidentally it was you who

told me not to load these files.

vese punit ji yeh tyik nahin ki jo acha kaam

kareyn aap un par

bevajah ka shak kareyn.Yeh sab jab Lal-kitab ki

promotion ke liye

galat hey to yeh aapkey group jo ki la-kitab ke

naam se hi chal raha

hey kahan se acha hoga? Aapkey es ravaye ne muze

es baat ke liye

mazboor kar diya hey ki main sirf apna kaam

dekhoon aur agar muze lal-

kitab se mohabbat hey to main koi dusri esi jagah

dekhun jahan koi

meri es kitab ke parti emaandaari par shak na kar

skeyn. Kuch members

ka kahna ki main yeh nahin likhta ki main kis grah

ka symtum puch

raha hoon. ye thik hey ki new comers ke liye vo

faydemand hota

parntoo konsey newcomers? jo yeh bhi nahi jaantey

ki main jab makan

ka jikra kartaa hoon to vo kon sey grah se

sambandhit hey? main kisi

bandar ke haath main Talwar pakda doon kya ye thik

rahega?

Kisi member ne yeh bhi kaha hey ki aur experts ko

kyon nahin bulaya

gaya to vo meharbaan jara us file ko pad dekheyn jo unhey di gai

thi

ki us par kya likha hua hey? agar nahin to main

batata hoon ki yeh

Seminar sirf members ke liye hi tha

sirf ekka-dukka merey

mehmaano ko chod kar. Varna bhai main pichley 10-12 saal se es

field

main hoon aur aap kaheyn to agli baar 300

jyotishiyon vo bhi sirf lal-

kitab par kaam karney valey ko ikktha karkey dikha

dun.

Punit ji, apsy darkhawast hey ki bina kisi baat ko

pura jaaney bina

aur bina kisi saboot key aap kisi par bhi ilzaam

na lagayen to acha

hoga.

Jahan tak aapka swaal hey ki jo seminaar main hua

veh sab hamney

board par kyon nahi rakha? jab mene Jyotish-mail

jo ki ek computer

Eng. hey se pucha tha ki File ko kesey load kartey

hain to turant

aapney massage kiya ki esy aap load na

kareyn(check previous massage)

jahan tak papers ka swall hey to ek paper main

sirf seminar ki

parshansha men hi likha thi to vah mene load karna

jaruri nahin

samjha dusra paper Sh. Bhatiya ji ka tha jo load hey.

Kya aapney usey

pada hey? agar pada hey to kuch uskey barey main

bhi to likhtey.

2ra swaal ki humney aapko agenda nahin bataya to

punit ji humney kisi

key bhi ghar par especial invitation nahin bheja

sirf fourm main

request kari thi aur unhi se rai bhi mangi thi kya

agenda hona

chahiye so members ki slah se jo bhi agenda bana

vo humney board par

do baar( jismey se ek baar aapse baat karney ke

baad) dala tha( See

privious massage)eskey bad jab aap aaye hi nahin

to hum jo ki

nosikhiye the jese ban pada seminar ko chla sakey

chalaya. To kon kon

sey paper padey aur nahin padey gaye es baat se

aapko koi narajgi

jahir karney ka haq nahi banta.

Aapko ek baat aur saaaf kar doon ki aap apni es

galatfahmi ko door

kar leyn ki mainey es fouram ki goodwill ka koi

fayda udhaya hey

bulki es fouram ko shohrat aur eskey members ko

apani puri takat se

fayda dene ki koshish ki hey. Aap yeh achi tarah

jaan leyn ki main ek

Professional Astrologer hoon aur bakayda delhi se nikalaney valey

newspaper aur Magazines main likhta hoon.Ye to

sirf Lal-kitanb ke

Naam se pyar hi tha jisaney muzy yeh sab karney ke

liye utsahit kiya.

Aapko shayad ye bhi nahin maloom ki meri 3

websites

astrologypoint.com,

umeshsharma.net,umeshsharma.com bhi heyn jinmey

se do par aap bina kisi kimat ko chukaye free main

apna horoscope

jitna aap chaheyn bana sakteyn hein. Kya aap

samjhtey hain ki " Pay-

pal " ya " CCAvenue " jo ki Payment

gateway hain ke baarey main nahin

janta. Yanhi se aap meri integrity ke barey main jaan

saktey hain.

Main Lal-kitab se mohabbat karta hoon longo ke

liye yeh " Way of Life "

hey par merey liye to " life " hey.

Aaklhir main mera yahi kahna hey ki abhi aapko koi

galatfahmi rah

gayi ho to usey bhi sapshat kar lyn. Man main koi

bhi bhar na rakheyn.

sincerely

mudit982001