Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 hi it is my first post i just want to know something about the following point if it is a myth or a fact i heard that the one who possesses the knowledge and the book of lal kitab gets automatically acquaited with some sort of energy and he has to help others dutifully and if he uses it for himself or any other reason will have adverse effect on him, such as getting poor day by day etc. one more thing i heard that if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody to do the remedy then he also gets the effects of that remedies on himself also whether done by any client of him. also astrologer should be a pure one and perform daily " path-puja " etc. i think i will get the scientific answer from the group owner thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Friend I also heard something like this in delhi seminar. One thing is clear that not every astrologer is destined to learn and practice lalkitab and the practitioner should not be greedy . in my opinion he should not expect money from clients and hence he must have some other source of income also.The lalkitab practitioner should have philanthropic bend of mind. About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody to do the remedy then he also gets the effects of that remedies on himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true if lalbitab practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written in lalkitab itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. to be on the safer side, we must emphasise on maintaining good moral character and respecting widows,feeding animals and plants rather than offering jet-action remedies. Regards Rajeev K Khattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Respected all members(i mean experts ), Even i heard that even the astrloger gets effected by the uppayas suggested to somebody.But then i thought that i could be true in case of tantriks which means to harm somebody else. AND LK IS NOT THAT STUDY. as mr khattar said " About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody to do the remedy then he also gets the effects of that remedies on himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true if lalbitab practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written in lalkitab itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. I STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WILL SOME BODY ENLIGHTEN US ON IT AS OTHERWISE EK NAYYA VEHAM SHOORU HO JAYEGA RAKESH SHARMA -- In lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote: > Dear Friend > > I also heard something like this in delhi seminar. One thing is clear that > not every astrologer is destined to learn and practice lalkitab and the > practitioner should not be greedy . in my opinion he should not expect money > from clients and hence he must have some other source of income also.The > lalkitab practitioner should have philanthropic bend of mind. > > About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody to do the remedy then he > also gets the effects of that remedies on > himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true if lalbitab > practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written in lalkitab > itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. > > to be on the safer side, we must emphasise on maintaining good moral > character and respecting widows,feeding animals and plants rather than > offering jet-action remedies. > > Regards > Rajeev K Khattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Res Rakesh jee, It is absolutely UNTRUE that the remedies done by some body would or could adversely effect the astrologer. If at all , it is just a 'waham'. Pt. Roop chand jee had foreseen such possibilities and had said , " kitab ke bagher, farzi manmaani ya mangharant baat waham paida kar degi aur waham ka ilaaj shayad hi kahin milata ho " The concept of 'rekh mein mekh'is not what has been assumed. It is and I quote : " .... woh grah 'grahphal'ya pakki haalat ka grah hoga jiska asar hamesha ke liye muqarar ho chuka hai aur uske bure asar ko tabdeel karne ki koshish karna be-maani balki insaani taqat se baahar hoga. Sirf khas khas parmatma tak pahunchwali aur kuchh vishesh hastiya hi rekh mein mekh { rekh mein lekh , sooraj mekh rasi khana # 1 mein qaid} dekh saktee hain. Magar woh bhi aakhir tabaadala hi hoga .. " The passage here simply means that there can not be any upaya for a planet of 'grah phal'. If at all only 'sidhdh' godmen might be able to perceive { rekh mein mekh dekh saktee hain } or do some thing about that planet or change the 'taseer' of that planet. And that too will be a 'tabaadala' an exchange where the godman takes the suffering upon himself and in exchange provides relief to his desciple . But for doing this one doesn't have to know any astrology or the Lal Kitab . Then he goes on to give the example of ' tabaadala' through Babar and Humayun story where Babar prayed to god that his son be forgiven and instead he pay the price.It is said that God accepted his prayers and Babar fell ill while his son Humayun got well. I hope this explains the situation. with regards and naman to all gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " rakeshrajnisharma " <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote: > Respected all members(i mean experts ), > Even i heard that even the astrloger gets effected by the uppayas > suggested to somebody.But then i thought that i could be true in > case of tantriks which means to harm somebody else. > AND LK IS NOT THAT STUDY. > > as mr khattar said " About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody > to do the remedy then he > also gets the effects of that remedies on > himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true if > lalbitab > practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written in > lalkitab > itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. > > I STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. > WILL SOME BODY ENLIGHTEN US ON IT AS OTHERWISE EK NAYYA VEHAM > SHOORU HO JAYEGA > > RAKESH SHARMA > -- In lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > wrote: > > Dear Friend > > > > I also heard something like this in delhi seminar. One thing is > clear that > > not every astrologer is destined to learn and practice lalkitab > and the > > practitioner should not be greedy . in my opinion he should not > expect money > > from clients and hence he must have some other source of income > also.The > > lalkitab practitioner should have philanthropic bend of mind. > > > > About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody to do the remedy > then he > > also gets the effects of that remedies on > > himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true if > lalbitab > > practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written in > lalkitab > > itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. > > > > to be on the safer side, we must emphasise on maintaining good > moral > > character and respecting widows,feeding animals and plants rather > than > > offering jet-action remedies. > > > > Regards > > Rajeev K Khattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 dear, even i think the same. let the message go around so that no weham is there. thanx rakesh sharma lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > Res Rakesh jee, > > It is absolutely UNTRUE that the remedies done by some body would or > could adversely effect the astrologer. If at all , it is just > a 'waham'. Pt. Roop chand jee had foreseen such possibilities and > had said , " kitab ke bagher, farzi manmaani ya mangharant baat > waham paida kar degi aur waham ka ilaaj shayad hi kahin milata ho " > > The concept of 'rekh mein mekh'is not what has been assumed. It is > and I quote : > > " .... woh grah 'grahphal'ya pakki haalat ka grah hoga jiska asar > hamesha ke liye muqarar ho chuka hai aur uske bure asar ko tabdeel > karne ki koshish karna be-maani balki insaani taqat se baahar hoga. > Sirf khas khas parmatma tak pahunchwali aur kuchh vishesh hastiya hi > rekh mein mekh { rekh mein lekh , sooraj mekh rasi khana # 1 mein > qaid} dekh saktee hain. Magar woh bhi aakhir tabaadala hi hoga .. " > > The passage here simply means that there can not be any upaya for a > planet of 'grah phal'. If at all only 'sidhdh' godmen might be able > to perceive { rekh mein mekh dekh saktee hain } or do some thing > about that planet or change the 'taseer' of that planet. And that > too will be a 'tabaadala' an exchange where the godman takes the > suffering upon himself and in exchange provides relief to his > desciple . But for doing this one doesn't have to know any astrology > or the Lal Kitab . Then he goes on to give the example of ' > tabaadala' through Babar and Humayun story where Babar prayed to > god that his son be forgiven and instead he pay the price.It is said > that God accepted his prayers and Babar fell ill while his son > Humayun got well. > > I hope this explains the situation. > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > bhuwan > > lalkitab , " rakeshrajnisharma " > <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote: > > Respected all members(i mean experts ), > > Even i heard that even the astrloger gets effected by the uppayas > > suggested to somebody.But then i thought that i could be true in > > case of tantriks which means to harm somebody else. > > AND LK IS NOT THAT STUDY. > > > > as mr khattar said " About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody > > to do the remedy then he > > also gets the effects of that remedies on > > himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true if > > lalbitab > > practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written in > > lalkitab > > itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. > > > > I STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. > > WILL SOME BODY ENLIGHTEN US ON IT AS OTHERWISE EK NAYYA VEHAM > > SHOORU HO JAYEGA > > > > RAKESH SHARMA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Friend > > > > > > I also heard something like this in delhi seminar. One thing is > > clear that > > > not every astrologer is destined to learn and practice lalkitab > > and the > > > practitioner should not be greedy . in my opinion he should not > > expect money > > > from clients and hence he must have some other source of income > > also.The > > > lalkitab practitioner should have philanthropic bend of mind. > > > > > > About " if lal kitab astrologer tells somebody to do the remedy > > then he > > > also gets the effects of that remedies on > > > himself also whether done by any client of him. " ...it is true > if > > lalbitab > > > practitioner suggests remedy for pakka ghar . ...it is written > in > > lalkitab > > > itself...rekh mein mekh lagana...humayu-babar ka kissa. > > > > > > to be on the safer side, we must emphasise on maintaining good > > moral > > > character and respecting widows,feeding animals and plants > rather > > than > > > offering jet-action remedies. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rajeev K Khattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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