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Friends,

As you know, somebody recently vented out his frustrations mostly at me. Rather than feeling upset about it, I decided to make something of this opportunity. (He threw tomatoes at me and I decided to make ketchup out of it.) Why not analyze this person's horoscope based on LalKitab's ilm-qyaafaa (the science of "educated guesswork" for lack of an appropriate word.) I don't know and don't want to know the identity of this person; I have no knowledge about his date, time or place of birth (He must admit at least this time that that this is not "kabootarbazee".) I will base my analysis exclusively on the contents of his letter (which seems to have been "from the heart.") Why 'he' and not 'she/her'? I will explain later. I don't mean to demean this person but I do feel sad for whatever is happening in his life. And, I will help him if he wants me to do so. But will he be honest about it? I

doubt it.

 

I recommend that you read his letter dispassionately. You will see that the overpowering sentiment expressed in that letter is that of a person who is utterly frustrated in life. He is depressed, angry at everyone and helpless. It seems to me that he may have seen good days as a child, actually very good days which turned him into a spoiled brat. "..Give me this, give me that or else I will throw a temper tantrum....." He probably got his way around his weak parents(weak Jupiter.) However, when the reality of life hits (post-adolescence years) he sees darkness all around himself. He sees himself as a failure and yet his habit of "demanding" things (be it attention, be it knowledge) doesn't vanish. He thinks that the world owes him a living because he has always had his way in the past. To me, it sounds like a badly aspected/afflicted case of Moon 12 -- "Aataa hai yaad

mujhko, guzraa huaa zamaanaa..." and badly afflicted Sun in the first. I can see money problems here. The hidden anger reflected in the letter signifies a "short fuse" and therefore, perhaps badly afflicted Jupiter, most likely close to Sun (and "burnt"). The birth could be at Sunrise with Jupiter in retrogression. He cannot see anyone else happy/respected. Why is so-and-so happy - why is so-and-so living abroad (without realizing that it is not a cakewalk here - most of us professionals work really long and hard; we play hard and have a very strong sense of achievement and family and are extremely proud of the work we do.) "vo meree tarah dukhee kyoon naheen hai?" - makes it a typical case of Mercury in the 12th or, maybe Mercury in the 11th (Perhaps can write very well - uses semi-colons ( to separate his sentences thus, knows good English but on purpose hides behind grammatical errors,

dangling adverbs and half-completed sentences.) "Ab budh ullu kaa patthaa hoga.." (The person is not ullu kaa patthha, but Mercury will make him feel like one.) At the end of the day, he feels he is wasting/has wasted his life and undergoes bouts of depression (bad Saturn and maybe alcohol to drown out the sorrows.)

 

So, we have four out of the nine planets picked and all of these seem to be badly posited. He needs remedial measures for these. But in the absence of other planets, I can't say which remedial measures he needs. I think he should pay one of our professional astrologers and get their counsel (not me, I don't charge and if I charged, he won't be able to afford.) Maybe he can be the first paying customer at the LalKitab web site.

 

Oh yes, why is 'it' not a she? Mercury in the eleventh/12th is generally not malefic for women - this is a case of really badly afflicted Mercury so this subject is a male.

 

Admitted that there is some jest and some reality!

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

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dear bhatia jee,

i have tried to replied to that person(he/she/it) to the best of my capacity and wanted to write more but due to time constraints could not write more.

I personally request you to not get disturbed by such guys(even i was waiting for his reply which i posted on 7/9/04.(please read that with the titleRe;geevak)

MAY GOD BLESS YOU

INSHALLAH WE SHALL REMAIN IN TOUCH

 

rakesh sharmaRajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friends,

As you know, somebody recently vented out his frustrations mostly at me. Rather than feeling upset about it, I decided to make something of this opportunity. (He threw tomatoes at me and I decided to make ketchup out of it.) Why not analyze this person's horoscope based on LalKitab's ilm-qyaafaa (the science of "educated guesswork" for lack of an appropriate word.) I don't know and don't want to know the identity of this person; I have no knowledge about his date, time or place of birth (He must admit at least this time that that this is not "kabootarbazee".) I will base my analysis exclusively on the contents of his letter (which seems to have been "from the heart.") Why 'he' and not 'she/her'? I will explain later. I don't mean to demean this person but I do feel sad for whatever is happening in his life. And, I will help him if he wants me to do so. But will he be honest about it? I

doubt it.

 

I recommend that you read his letter dispassionately. You will see that the overpowering sentiment expressed in that letter is that of a person who is utterly frustrated in life. He is depressed, angry at everyone and helpless. It seems to me that he may have seen good days as a child, actually very good days which turned him into a spoiled brat. "..Give me this, give me that or else I will throw a temper tantrum....." He probably got his way around his weak parents(weak Jupiter.) However, when the reality of life hits (post-adolescence years) he sees darkness all around himself. He sees himself as a failure and yet his habit of "demanding" things (be it attention, be it knowledge) doesn't vanish. He thinks that the world owes him a living because he has always had his way in the past. To me, it sounds like a badly aspected/afflicted case of Moon 12 -- "Aataa hai yaad

mujhko, guzraa huaa zamaanaa..." and badly afflicted Sun in the first. I can see money problems here. The hidden anger reflected in the letter signifies a "short fuse" and therefore, perhaps badly afflicted Jupiter, most likely close to Sun (and "burnt"). The birth could be at Sunrise with Jupiter in retrogression. He cannot see anyone else happy/respected. Why is so-and-so happy - why is so-and-so living abroad (without realizing that it is not a cakewalk here - most of us professionals work really long and hard; we play hard and have a very strong sense of achievement and family and are extremely proud of the work we do.) "vo meree tarah dukhee kyoon naheen hai?" - makes it a typical case of Mercury in the 12th or, maybe Mercury in the 11th (Perhaps can write very well - uses semi-colons ( to separate his sentences thus, knows good English but on purpose hides behind grammatical errors,

dangling adverbs and half-completed sentences.) "Ab budh ullu kaa patthaa hoga.." (The person is not ullu kaa patthha, but Mercury will make him feel like one.) At the end of the day, he feels he is wasting/has wasted his life and undergoes bouts of depression (bad Saturn and maybe alcohol to drown out the sorrows.)

 

So, we have four out of the nine planets picked and all of these seem to be badly posited. He needs remedial measures for these. But in the absence of other planets, I can't say which remedial measures he needs. I think he should pay one of our professional astrologers and get their counsel (not me, I don't charge and if I charged, he won't be able to afford.) Maybe he can be the first paying customer at the LalKitab web site.

 

Oh yes, why is 'it' not a she? Mercury in the eleventh/12th is generally not malefic for women - this is a case of really badly afflicted Mercury so this subject is a male.

 

Admitted that there is some jest and some reality!

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

 

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bhatia ji ;

i may be wrong but i feel he has budh and mars in 9th, gar koi grah bolta budh na use chodta, i feel budh pvein se bol raha hai aur second house mein bhi kuch gadbad hai mars in 9th gives the capacity to give makul jawab but mercury in 9th is spoiling this . he could have rahu in 5th and ketu in 11th pyas to bahut hai par rasta nahin hai. rahu in 5th is also becoming a cause of badnami. well iagree that it would be better for her to give details of her horoscope. i think she is a female. so miss geevak at least contribute that much at least kindly send ur birth particulars u may keep ur identity a secret.

kulbirrakesh sharma <rakeshrajnisharma wrote:

 

dear bhatia jee,

i have tried to replied to that person(he/she/it) to the best of my capacity and wanted to write more but due to time constraints could not write more.

I personally request you to not get disturbed by such guys(even i was waiting for his reply which i posted on 7/9/04.(please read that with the titleRe;geevak)

MAY GOD BLESS YOU

INSHALLAH WE SHALL REMAIN IN TOUCH

 

rakesh sharmaRajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friends,

As you know, somebody recently vented out his frustrations mostly at me. Rather than feeling upset about it, I decided to make something of this opportunity. (He threw tomatoes at me and I decided to make ketchup out of it.) Why not analyze this person's horoscope based on LalKitab's ilm-qyaafaa (the science of "educated guesswork" for lack of an appropriate word.) I don't know and don't want to know the identity of this person; I have no knowledge about his date, time or place of birth (He must admit at least this time that that this is not "kabootarbazee".) I will base my analysis exclusively on the contents of his letter (which seems to have been "from the heart.") Why 'he' and not 'she/her'? I will explain later. I don't mean to demean this person but I do feel sad for whatever is happening in his life. And, I will help him if he wants me to do so. But will he be honest about it? I

doubt it.

 

I recommend that you read his letter dispassionately. You will see that the overpowering sentiment expressed in that letter is that of a person who is utterly frustrated in life. He is depressed, angry at everyone and helpless. It seems to me that he may have seen good days as a child, actually very good days which turned him into a spoiled brat. "..Give me this, give me that or else I will throw a temper tantrum....." He probably got his way around his weak parents(weak Jupiter.) However, when the reality of life hits (post-adolescence years) he sees darkness all around himself. He sees himself as a failure and yet his habit of "demanding" things (be it attention, be it knowledge) doesn't vanish. He thinks that the world owes him a living because he has always had his way in the past. To me, it sounds like a badly aspected/afflicted case of Moon 12 -- "Aataa hai yaad

mujhko, guzraa huaa zamaanaa..." and badly afflicted Sun in the first. I can see money problems here. The hidden anger reflected in the letter signifies a "short fuse" and therefore, perhaps badly afflicted Jupiter, most likely close to Sun (and "burnt"). The birth could be at Sunrise with Jupiter in retrogression. He cannot see anyone else happy/respected. Why is so-and-so happy - why is so-and-so living abroad (without realizing that it is not a cakewalk here - most of us professionals work really long and hard; we play hard and have a very strong sense of achievement and family and are extremely proud of the work we do.) "vo meree tarah dukhee kyoon naheen hai?" - makes it a typical case of Mercury in the 12th or, maybe Mercury in the 11th (Perhaps can write very well - uses semi-colons ( to separate his sentences thus, knows good English but on purpose hides behind grammatical errors,

dangling adverbs and half-completed sentences.) "Ab budh ullu kaa patthaa hoga.." (The person is not ullu kaa patthha, but Mercury will make him feel like one.) At the end of the day, he feels he is wasting/has wasted his life and undergoes bouts of depression (bad Saturn and maybe alcohol to drown out the sorrows.)

 

So, we have four out of the nine planets picked and all of these seem to be badly posited. He needs remedial measures for these. But in the absence of other planets, I can't say which remedial measures he needs. I think he should pay one of our professional astrologers and get their counsel (not me, I don't charge and if I charged, he won't be able to afford.) Maybe he can be the first paying customer at the LalKitab web site.

 

Oh yes, why is 'it' not a she? Mercury in the eleventh/12th is generally not malefic for women - this is a case of really badly afflicted Mercury so this subject is a male.

 

Admitted that there is some jest and some reality!

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

 

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Bhatia ji and Kulbir ji,

If you can please stop wasting your time,

efforts and energy to find a solution to some problem that doesn't

even exist. No one asked you to analyse this person's problems and

you are spending may be hours and hours to figure out this persons

problems. But on the other hand there are people like " NANDKISHORE

RAI " who has been asking for a solution to his problems for so

long,, he has posted his qurries 3 times already, but no one gives a

damn about him

 

Please, I don't want to be rude here, but if you really want to help

some one, please first help those who are asking for help.

 

Thanks

Gullu

 

 

 

lalkitab , ceeta bains <ceetabains> wrote:

> bhatia ji ;

> i may be wrong but i feel he has budh and mars in 9th, gar koi grah

bolta budh na use chodta, i feel budh pvein se bol raha hai aur

second house mein bhi kuch gadbad hai mars in 9th gives the capacity

to give makul jawab but mercury in 9th is spoiling this . he could

have rahu in 5th and ketu in 11th pyas to bahut hai par rasta nahin

hai. rahu in 5th is also becoming a cause of badnami. well iagree

that it would be better for her to give details of her horoscope. i

think she is a female. so miss geevak at least contribute that much

at least kindly send ur birth particulars u may keep ur identity a

secret.

> kulbir

>

> rakesh sharma <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote:

> dear bhatia jee,

> i have tried to replied to that person(he/she/it) to the best of my

capacity and wanted to write more but due to time constraints could

not write more.

> I personally request you to not get disturbed by such guys(even i

was waiting for his reply which i posted on 7/9/04.(please read that

with the titleRe;geevak)

> MAY GOD BLESS YOU

> INSHALLAH WE SHALL REMAIN IN TOUCH

>

> rakesh sharma

>

> Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> Friends,

> As you know, somebody recently vented out his frustrations mostly

at me. Rather than feeling upset about it, I decided to make

something of this opportunity. (He threw tomatoes at me and I decided

to make ketchup out of it.) Why not analyze this person's horoscope

based on LalKitab's ilm-qyaafaa (the science of " educated guesswork "

for lack of an appropriate word.) I don't know and don't want to know

the identity of this person; I have no knowledge about his date, time

or place of birth (He must admit at least this time that that this is

not " kabootarbazee " .) I will base my analysis exclusively on the

contents of his letter (which seems to have been " from the heart. " )

Why 'he' and not 'she/her'? I will explain later. I don't mean to

demean this person but I do feel sad for whatever is happening in his

life. And, I will help him if he wants me to do so. But will he be

honest about it? I doubt it.

>

> I recommend that you read his letter dispassionately. You will see

that the overpowering sentiment expressed in that letter is that of a

person who is utterly frustrated in life. He is depressed, angry at

everyone and helpless. It seems to me that he may have seen good days

as a child, actually very good days which turned him into a spoiled

brat. " ..Give me this, give me that or else I will throw a temper

tantrum..... " He probably got his way around his weak parents(weak

Jupiter.) However, when the reality of life hits (post-adolescence

years) he sees darkness all around himself. He sees himself as a

failure and yet his habit of " demanding " things (be it attention, be

it knowledge) doesn't vanish. He thinks that the world owes him a

living because he has always had his way in the past. To me, it

sounds like a badly aspected/afflicted case of Moon 12 -- " Aataa hai

yaad mujhko, guzraa huaa zamaanaa... " and badly afflicted Sun in the

first. I can see money problems here. The hidden

> anger reflected in the letter signifies a " short fuse " and

therefore, perhaps badly afflicted Jupiter, most likely close to Sun

(and " burnt " ). The birth could be at Sunrise with Jupiter in

retrogression. He cannot see anyone else happy/respected. Why is so-

and-so happy - why is so-and-so living abroad (without realizing that

it is not a cakewalk here - most of us professionals work really

long and hard; we play hard and have a very strong sense of

achievement and family and are extremely proud of the work we

do.) " vo meree tarah dukhee kyoon naheen hai? " - makes it a typical

case of Mercury in the 12th or, maybe Mercury in the 11th (Perhaps

can write very well - uses semi-colons ( to separate his sentences

thus, knows good English but on purpose hides behind grammatical

errors, dangling adverbs and half-completed sentences.) " Ab budh

ullu kaa patthaa hoga.. " (The person is not ullu kaa patthha, but

Mercury will make him feel like one.) At the end of the day, he

feels he is

> wasting/has wasted his life and undergoes bouts of depression (bad

Saturn and maybe alcohol to drown out the sorrows.)

>

> So, we have four out of the nine planets picked and all of these

seem to be badly posited. He needs remedial measures for these. But

in the absence of other planets, I can't say which remedial measures

he needs. I think he should pay one of our professional astrologers

and get their counsel (not me, I don't charge and if I charged, he

won't be able to afford.) Maybe he can be the first paying customer

at the LalKitab web site.

>

> Oh yes, why is 'it' not a she? Mercury in the eleventh/12th is

generally not malefic for women - this is a case of really badly

afflicted Mercury so this subject is a male.

>

> Admitted that there is some jest and some reality!

>

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>

 

>

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GULU JI THANX FOR YOUR KIND CO-OPERATION FOR GETTING ATTENTION TO MY PROBLEMS.

THANX AGAIN.

WITH REGARDS

NANDU

 

 

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 Gullu Badshaw wrote :

>Bhatia ji and Kulbir ji,

> If you can please stop wasting your time,

>efforts and energy to find a solution to some problem that doesn't

>even exist. No one asked you to analyse this person's problems and

>you are spending may be hours and hours to figure out this persons

>problems. But on the other hand there are people like " NANDKISHORE

>RAI " who has been asking for a solution to his problems for so

>long,, he has posted his qurries 3 times already, but no one gives a

>damn about him

>Please, I don't want to be rude here, but if you really want to help

>some one, please first help those who are asking for help.

>Thanks

>Gullu

>lalkitab , ceeta bains <ceetabains> wrote:

>> bhatia ji ;

>> i may be wrong but i feel he has budh and mars in 9th, gar koi grah

>bolta budh na use chodta, i feel budh pvein se bol raha hai aur

>second house mein bhi kuch gadbad hai mars in 9th gives the capacity

>to give makul jawab but mercury in 9th is spoiling this . he could

>have rahu in 5th and ketu in 11th pyas to bahut hai par rasta nahin

>hai. rahu in 5th is also becoming a cause of badnami. well iagree

>that it would be better for her to give details of her horoscope. i

>think she is a female. so miss geevak at least contribute that much

>at least kindly send ur birth particulars u may keep ur identity a

>secret.

>> kulbir

>>

>> rakesh sharma <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote:

>> dear bhatia jee,

>> i have tried to replied to that person(he/she/it) to the best of my

>capacity and wanted to write more but due to time constraints could

>not write more.

>> I personally request you to not get disturbed by such guys(even i

>was waiting for his reply which i posted on 7/9/04.(please read that

>with the titleRe;geevak)

>> MAY GOD BLESS YOU

>> INSHALLAH WE SHALL REMAIN IN TOUCH

>> 

>> rakesh sharma

>>

>> Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

>> Friends,

>> As you know, somebody recently vented out his frustrations mostly

>at me. Rather than feeling upset about it, I decided to make

>something of this opportunity. (He threw tomatoes at me and I decided

>to make ketchup out of it.) Why not analyze this person's horoscope

>based on LalKitab's ilm-qyaafaa (the science of " educated guesswork "

>for lack of an appropriate word.) I don't know and don't want to know

>the identity of this person; I have no knowledge about his date, time

>or place of birth (He must admit at least this time that that this is

>not " kabootarbazee " .) I will base my analysis exclusively on the

>contents of his letter (which seems to have been " from the heart. " )

>Why 'he' and not 'she/her'? I will explain later. I don't mean to

>demean this person but I do feel sad for whatever is happening in his

>life. And, I will help him if he wants me to do so. But will he be

>honest about it? I doubt it.

>> 

>> I recommend that you read his letter dispassionately. You will see

>that the overpowering sentiment expressed in that letter is that of a

>person who is utterly frustrated in life. He is depressed, angry at

>everyone and helpless. It seems to me that he may have seen good days

>as a child, actually very good days which turned him into a spoiled

>brat. " ..Give me this, give me that or else I will throw a temper

>tantrum..... " He probably got his way around his weak parents(weak

>Jupiter.) However, when the reality of life hits (post-adolescence

>years) he sees darkness all around himself. He sees himself as a

>failure and yet his habit of " demanding " things (be it attention, be

>it knowledge) doesn't vanish. He thinks that the world owes him a

>living because he has always had his way in the past. To me, it

>sounds like a badly aspected/afflicted case of Moon 12 -- " Aataa hai

>yaad mujhko, guzraa huaa zamaanaa... " and badly afflicted Sun in the

>first. I can see money problems here. The hidden

>> anger reflected in the letter signifies a " short fuse " and

>therefore, perhaps badly afflicted Jupiter, most likely close to Sun

>(and " burnt " ). The birth could be at Sunrise with Jupiter in

>retrogression. He cannot see anyone else happy/respected. Why is so-

>and-so happy - why is so-and-so living abroad (without realizing that

>it is not a cakewalk here - most of us professionals work really

>long and hard; we play hard and have a very strong sense of

>achievement and family and are extremely proud of the work we

>do.) " vo meree tarah dukhee kyoon naheen hai? " - makes it a typical

>case of Mercury in the 12th or, maybe Mercury in the 11th (Perhaps

>can write very well - uses semi-colons ( to separate his sentences

>thus, knows good English but on purpose hides behind grammatical

>errors, dangling adverbs and half-completed sentences.) " Ab budh

>ullu kaa patthaa hoga.. " (The person is not ullu kaa patthha, but

>Mercury will make him feel like one.) At the end of the day, he

>feels he is

>> wasting/has wasted his life and undergoes bouts of depression (bad

>Saturn and maybe alcohol to drown out the sorrows.)

>> 

>> So, we have four out of the nine planets picked and all of these

>seem to be badly posited. He needs remedial measures for these. But

>in the absence of other planets, I can't say which remedial measures

>he needs. I think he should pay one of our professional astrologers

>and get their counsel (not me, I don't charge and if I charged, he

>won't be able to afford.) Maybe he can be the first paying customer

>at the LalKitab web site.

>> 

>> Oh yes, why is 'it' not a she? Mercury in the eleventh/12th is

>generally not malefic for women - this is a case of really badly

>afflicted Mercury so this subject is a male.

>> 

>> Admitted that there is some jest and some reality!

>> 

>> Respectfully,

>> Rajinder Bhatia

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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