geevak

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Sir, although punit has advised to not to respond on the issue but i take this opportunity to clear some things;

1. Discussion forum means discussion is the foremost issue and not consultations.

2. We are not bound to answer querries of people who don't even know the abc of lalkitab and want to visit here for solutions of their problems. u analyse ur kundali ask for clarifications then it's o.k. but rest assured this is not a charity forum.

3. Before criticising Bhatia ji tell me my friend what's ur contribution till date to this forum.

as nadi astrology is the heritage of south indians lalkitab is of punjabis. if u don't know the culture and language of punjab no use in understaning lk.

4. i started with the following topics * lalkitab and hidden spiritual meanings * lalkitab translations and decodifying the languauge* Ignored aspects of lalkitab* kundali vivechan, tell me in how many topics did u respond or took active part. regarding pen and ink some person of ur category replied that i am making people superstitiuos now tell me if people dont understand such basic things and difference between planetary considerations and superstition, what can a person do.

5. regarding langauge problem i admit that i belong to totally rustic rural punjab, but if u find my language a problem u haven,t seen the real knowers of the subject and their languaue.

6. When i realised that 98% people are here with the impression that we are dutybound to analysis their kundalis and solve their problems let lalkitab understanding go to hell, i also started doind do in rome what romans do. ofcourse i found friends who are masters in lalkitab in this field and many a valueable discussions are going amongst us but privately.

7. make a survey how many people are here for discussion and how many for personal desires who don't even want to look at a book on lal kitab astrology but want solutions only and how many have genuine desire for understanding this book.

5. its a matter of common understanding another person will fill whole hearted interst in ur problem only if u also contribute a little. ab aap jaisa sadakchap aadmi aaye aur dhake se pooche ki aapki contribution kya hai aur gardan se pakad ke pooche ki meri kundali kya kahati hai, in that case u know what's going to be the answer.

regarding seminar be it mudit or punit all are like brothers umesh dosent has a problem with anybody taking credit because credit lene ke liya 2-3 lakh rs phoonkane ki unhe koi zaroorat nahin hai i don't think u can ever imagine the circle in which he moves, nor is punit a beyimaan like u. as far seminar attendance is concerned come and see for urself what a galaxy of stars is coming to attend. upadhya ke bina lalkitab khatm nahin ho jayegi, upadhya mere hisab se to umesh se chid kar bhage the baki aap bata do unhe kaise manaye par yaar khud bhi kuch karo. aap ke pitaji koi nawab to the nahin ki ham aapki khushamid karte phiren

kulbirgeevavk <geevavk wrote:

same old story is being repeated; only god knows for how many times!A STAGE MANAGED HULLA-GULLA IS STARTED AGAINST THE PERSONRAISING THE POINTS REGARDING POOR STATE OF AFFAIRS OF GROUP !......when ever SOME one comes out and points out the ACTUAL facts regarding various individuals posing as agents;money mongrers; self styled experts; and those trying to show that they are the 'ONLY'inheritors of lalkitab and nobody else knows any thing andhas no right to even utter his/her opinion on the group!THE BARKING STARTS -CRITICISM KARNE WALE KO BHALA-BURA OR SABSE BURA BATAYA JAATA HAIBAAKI SAB MAHHAN ATMA BAN JAATI HAIN and later on ek -doosre ki peeth thonk kar wahi kabbotar baji or laffazi shuru ho jaati hai.LALKITAB AUR ISKE PRINCIPLE GAYE BHAAD MEIN.what is even more shameless on part of these

kabootarbaj is that these creatures start corresponding in punjabi sentences!agar lalkitab ka ghera punjabiyon tak hi seemit rakhana hai to kindly make it a policy for the group.bhai logo lalkitab ke author ne all india service kee thi;naam roop chand JOSHI;publisher ka naam girdhari lal SHARMA ;language asli kitab ki urdu hai to pherye panjabi bhira apani tangri ooper kyon rakhna chahte hain?mr bhatiya and inke aaka .punjab se bhag kar canada baithe hue hain aur INDIA ke writers ko chorbatate hain;one can only comment on what transpires on the group messages and no one knowswhat a person has done or undone for lalkitab in his day to day life.for instance--what is the contribution of mr bhatia as such on this group......1][ except acting as agent/spokesman for certain individuals who till date have not madeany contribution/input on the group and only qualification they may

haveis that they may be descendents of author of lalkitab!].by the grace of god!!!2]he acts as though is" know all "but when ever is "asked" to contribute shall take excuses- very busy ; poor health;have certain other commitments such as family etc etc;[baaki sab randuae hain bus isiki family hai?]one can read all his messages all he has produced is fear psychosis andhas acted as cushion for unworthy persons trying to bask in reflected glory.one was some mr.virender some computer person and some other fellow WRITING A BOOK ON LALKITAB FOR LAST FIFTY YEARS; HALF A century MY DEAR FRIENDS;living in toranto becausesome problems was created by some miscreants during punjab problem days.BUTEVEN THOSE days are two decade old know!yaar ab to vaapas aajao tathadeshvaasiyon ke kaston ka nivaran karne ki kripa karo; paise ki koi kami nahi ab gun vaan ke liye.aur vaheen baith kar koi kitaab likhne

ka hassen khwab dekhte rahena hai to bakiyon ko to chor mat batao!!!!!those who are not able to follow above few lines can read the archives appx one year oldmessage no[ ] by one critic bum ofcourse a fake id but the messagesand questions raised if one reads with open mind are yet waiting for honest answers !all mr bhatia could cry almost weepingly was bad treatment by miscreants! and also some shameless excuses.newer leading entrants mr upadhyay was a gem of a man and a saint like person;ofcourse he was d by mr puneet pandey by MISTAKE !!! is another story.mr upadhyay if given chance could help remove themystery of lalkitab but what to talk of those fellows who are furthertrying to raise mysteries instead

of just coming out with the real principles.mr kulbir kehta hai" theka liya hai kya upadhayay ka".mr kulbir apni jholi dekhkucch maal bhi hai ya sirf GAAL bajane aate hai ;jab aya to badda gyani banta thaaa jtak pen or ink ke baare me nakal marne ke baad kuchh kiay ya sirf keere marne ki baate aati hai.kuch maal hai to bata bhai nahi to baitha reh jhoothi prashansa karta reh ;karvata reh.mr kulbeer and his language tells that may be his just near ancestors belong to jungle even now.does not know what he knows and what he does not ;but one thing is sure with this kind of language he may not go far and i dont thinkany gentle lady can ask him for consultations! it is an open secret that astrologershave more ladies as clients as they have more faith.shri shri kulbir jaise do -chaar aur ho jaaye toladies to aagyi apani samasya lekar astrologers ke paas!as far as for dukaandar ji ;i shall like to point out

yes being a professional is not wrongbut even gay and whores are also professionals.kyon all modesty and love for hindi languageand excuse of poor english was washed away by one rebuke of mr sidharth.back came the response of the dukaandar in language having more english and some poor hindi! what a REACTION !ek naya -naya budhhiman! angry multani certificate de raha hai GURUJANO ko!pehle kabhi message nahi likha kyonki certificate ki jaroorat to ab hai.what an original ID!angry MULTAN ! KYA SHAAN HAI RAFOOJI KEE. lage raho lage raho; latke raho latke rahodekhna chhoot na jayen haathon se! angreji moota nahee ab moot le mere bhai!I HOPE ennu bohat saare thanks milan ge! EH b ik naya gurujan ban jaooga kade na kade.kehnda hai"This group is worth praise everyperson is lovely enough like all gemstones "ik koi phunti*** bhi dukaandaar nu bhagwaan da bhra bata reha hai! hai mein mar

jaawan teriin anokhi adaavan te; bilkul fresh lagda hai;id te changi hai;pata nahee kisda pyada hai?yarro hor kinne TATT * PAAL RAKKHE NE !!OH sorry yaar mein bhi kulbir ke level par aa gaya!yes bhuvan is most sincere; par kaddon tak sar phodega inn hypocrites de nal.baakimahaa paap ;guru jano ki ninda jaisi baaton par chintaa kuchh jyada hi karta hai ye baaten iskedimaag me tesion na de dein;nahee to phir ye bhi gurujan bana diya jayega!when ever a message full of criticism comes out; a bunch starts barking FOUL FOUL !par jo roj fake id ke messaage se wah- wah loot rahe hain ! KYA UNHONE RAATt ko akele me kabhi baith keSOCHA KEE AUTHOR KI AATMA KA KYA HAAL HO RAHA HOGA;IS GROUP KI ASLEEYAT JAAN KAR !kya aaj tak is group mein jo appx three years se existance me hai aur lagbhag 3500 message likhe jaa chuke hain- KYA IN GURUJANO NE TOTAL TEN REMEDIES YA

FINDINGS BHI BATAYEE HAIN JO KI KOI BHI NEW COMER HOROSCOPE DEKH KAR NISCHIT TAUR APNE DOSTO ;RISHTEDARON ; YAARO-PYARO KO BATA SAKE.AUR GROUP MEMBERS PER YE AHSAAN KI YE GROUP TO SABKO LALKITAB SIKHANE KE LIYE HI HAI !-hai koi jo is baat ko jhootha bata sake!!kya mr bhatia message parh rahe hain ya phir se busy yaa beemar hogaye hain yaa or koiimportant kaam aagaya hai? YA PHIR paanch din ke baad ye kehna hai ki bus bahut hogaya;ab aage chalo ; but where gurujan; because even today the group is at the same spot as was on starting day.why to waste time money and effort of those newcomers who are getting frustated by kabootar bajiof these who wont reveal the actual but beat about the bush.like-1]alchohal shani ki vastu kyon hai.jin ya vodka kya hai?2]which color ink to be used and which color pen :WHEN EVERY BODY KNOWS that fountainpens are almost extinct in day to day use. 3]AADOO

ki goothli ko english me samjhao pl.usme soorma bharo:mr dukaandar kya koi simple alternate nahee milaISS AADOO KI GITTAK KO! OOPER SE TURRA KI INHE GURUJAN KAHO! BHUVAN JI AAP YA TOMAHAAN AATMA HAIN YA SOLID DIPLOMAT JO INKO GURUJAN KEHTE HO.4]KYA KOI bata sakata hai ki www.lalkitabee.com kiski website hai? or band kyun padi hai kya grahak bhaag gaye?umesh ji seminaar karvaa kar ek nek kaam kar rahe hain;par credit lagata hai foren waale samet lenge ya astrocamp wala pandey.yaa or koi dukaandar. lo ab gutka BHI BIKEGAis bhatiyaji ko aaj tak kisi ki likhi kitab good nahi lagi balki sabko chor batata hai.theek bhi hai agar ghar wale hi nahi samajh kar 50 years me chooha nahin maar sake tobaaher ke kya ghanta....... bandh denge billi ke gale me; wah re dunia !jholi me naheen daane amma chali bhunane.kuchh GURUJANO ki hobby-they ask more than a dozen questions without sharing reasons

or principles[dukkan daari jo karni hai ;grahak to patana hai- paapi pet ka sawaal hai mere bhai!!!]like--1]aapki mausi kaani thi?2]ghar ke aage /peeche kuan[water well] tha?3]teen chache and paanch taaye the? 4]leather goods kharidi ek saal me? 5]koi chakkar chal rah hai kya? 6]santre[ oranges] khaye teri maa ne? so on and so forth....... yaar kuch horoscope se pata chalta ho to bata do ijjat kyon utarte ho ;bechare ne paap kar diya kya aap se horoscope ke baare mein poochh kar!!aur koi agar solid base ho in bquestions ka to ; share karo! jis ke dwara anya log bhi laabhanvit ho sake.agar koi basic nahee to kyon jalebiyan tod rahe ho? aakhir mein yaaro seminaar ki date aur venue to set kar liya LOGA NU KIVEN KATTHA KAROGE?OTTHE TE FAKE ID WALA SYSTEM

CHALNA NAHIN?dukaan dari vaaste bakre phad litte ? ya pher maavan;behn-bhirava;saale ;saaliyan debharose baithe ho! yaaro mainu te lagda hai ki - ye shaadi nahi ho sakti!aakhir me ek salaah--kiswi bhai ko lalkitab ke baare me koi pakka gyan ho;horoscope se kuchh pata chalta ho ;koi pakki remedyjisme bhatiya ya aur koi dukaandar apni taang naphansa sakte ho;koi share karne layak baat ho to.....yaaro kanjoosi nahi karna kyunki----- khudaa ke paas jaana hai;haathi hai na ghoda hai wahan to paidal hi jaana...kya pata aaj aapki batayi baat saalon baad ;aapke marneke baad aapki aulad ya uski aulad ke kaam aajaye.sikander mahaan bhi poore vishva ko jeetne kee iccha aurdum rakhta tha;iss dunia se khaali haath gaya!!yaaro maan jao jyada lambi lambi mat choda karo thank for ur time--- In

lalkitab , "Nandkishore rai rawal" <natkhatnandu@r...> wrote:> > > Dear Sardar Ji,> Agar Bura Na Mane to ek baat kahoon ki ye aapki mahanata hai jo aapne apni anteratma ko awaz ko sabke samne kholkar rakh dia.Aise kof birle hi hotein hain.Hats off to you. > > Nandu> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 ceeta bains wrote :> > i think shishyee was right. truth is really bitter. When he called me a time waster, it was true but my ego was not accepting it and I order to shield myself I wrote all that rubbish. Internally I was not at ease at all. Constant introspection and retrospection forced me to acknowledge that yes it's true I was wasting my time. Thanks to him for bringing reality to the forefront.> >so to make amends rakesh and priya ji i suggest that it is high time that we start analysis of kundalis, after long deliberations with learned scholars i

have come to the conclusion that this is the only way to learn and understand lalkitab. all alone i don't think that i am capable of analysing a kundali so i require ur help.> >i recommend that either of u two select a kundali and let's start with it. bhuwan would surely guide us where we fail. i have taken prabhakar ji in confidence he is ready to put final word to the analysis. I STRONGLY BEG S. AMARJIT SINGH THIND ALSO TO HELP US.> >anybody else who is also of our level i.e. begginers can also join in please.> >in anticipation> >kulbir> >> >> >> >> >

 

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