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Dear Sid

I am shocked to read your e-mail about senior astrologers.I have been taught

that the student must be humble if he wants to gain knowledge but your

language was not that of a student .Even if a member is seeking remedies

then he should not expect any instant reply from anybody as this is not a

charity forum that deals in suggesting remedies to the members on demand.

 

If by chance you have missed to read earlier mails or could not understand

the aim of this group then kindly note that aim of this group is to share

thoughts and knowledge about lalkitab and not only to suggest remedies to

the members.

 

It is the greatness of Bhatia Ji that he is in touch with the group and

quick to correct the analysis. He has corrected me too and I expect only

corrections from experts. Mr.Yograj Prabhakar too corrected me once and i

will remain thankful to him.

 

Lalkitabee ji's ( shukla Ji ) only fault is ...he is helping the members

whenever he gets time and what he is getting in return ! unjustified

criticism !! he is a professional astrologer still he helps the members free

of charge and he doesn't make any tall claims about the chamtkars performed

by him.I don't think he is so shrwed that he can even think of making fake

e-mail IDs as you have blamed. I know lalkitabee ji through this forum only

and haven't even met him or seen him or spoken to him. His replies give a

lot of info / knowledge to juniors like me.

 

You claim that you are in USA but your language ( shameless dukandaar )

suggests that you yourself are somebody else living in north india and using

fake identity to disrespect senior members.

 

Arjun was a successful archer because he used to aim at his target only

i.e. eye of the bird and he used not to see anywhere else. It seems your aim

to join the group is not to learn lalkitab but to generate a negative

feeling among the group members & spoil the atmosphere . BUT YOU & PEOPLE

LIKE YOU, WILL NEVER GET SUCCESS IN YOUR POISONOUS MISSION.

 

Yours Truly

Rajeev K Khattar

 

 

-

shishyee <shishyee

<lalkitab >

Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:53 PM

[lalkitab] Hello to all. info inside if your new and need a remedy

inthis group must read

 

 

>

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

dear all

one cannot spit on sun it will come back on his face

the author of lal kitab main purpose is to guide you

that astrology is

karmic debt and credit ,

if you start doing goods from this point the result

will be good in

future

one cannot escape from his destiny

three will be some with thier own mind will do

destructive criticism to

us who want to help other with lal kitab knowledge

let us ignore them as our purpose is to serve even

them if they have

valid inquiry

shri rup chand joshi was a saint like man and thats

what he expect

from all who take help of red book to help others and

take praise and

insult as same and wish the good of even the enemies

love to all and sid too.

i have a friend who use to help kids at scout troop

killed in crash

i was shocked he was just 35 yr of age and great job

and 3 kids and beutiful wife

life is to short we are not sure even if we will

finish our worthy duty toward our love ones unless

there is grace from the lord

rajinder

--- Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab wrote:

 

> Dear Sid

> I am shocked to read your e-mail about senior

> astrologers.I have been taught

> that the student must be humble if he wants to gain

> knowledge but your

> language was not that of a student .Even if a member

> is seeking remedies

> then he should not expect any instant reply from

> anybody as this is not a

> charity forum that deals in suggesting remedies to

> the members on demand.

>

> If by chance you have missed to read earlier mails

> or could not understand

> the aim of this group then kindly note that aim of

> this group is to share

> thoughts and knowledge about lalkitab and not only

> to suggest remedies to

> the members.

>

> It is the greatness of Bhatia Ji that he is in touch

> with the group and

> quick to correct the analysis. He has corrected me

> too and I expect only

> corrections from experts. Mr.Yograj Prabhakar too

> corrected me once and i

> will remain thankful to him.

>

> Lalkitabee ji's ( shukla Ji ) only fault is ...he

> is helping the members

> whenever he gets time and what he is getting in

> return ! unjustified

> criticism !! he is a professional astrologer still

> he helps the members free

> of charge and he doesn't make any tall claims about

> the chamtkars performed

> by him.I don't think he is so shrwed that he can

> even think of making fake

> e-mail IDs as you have blamed. I know lalkitabee ji

> through this forum only

> and haven't even met him or seen him or spoken to

> him. His replies give a

> lot of info / knowledge to juniors like me.

>

> You claim that you are in USA but your language (

> shameless dukandaar )

> suggests that you yourself are somebody else living

> in north india and using

> fake identity to disrespect senior members.

>

> Arjun was a successful archer because he used to aim

> at his target only

> i.e. eye of the bird and he used not to see anywhere

> else. It seems your aim

> to join the group is not to learn lalkitab but to

> generate a negative

> feeling among the group members & spoil the

> atmosphere . BUT YOU & PEOPLE

> LIKE YOU, WILL NEVER GET SUCCESS IN YOUR POISONOUS

> MISSION.

>

> Yours Truly

> Rajeev K Khattar

>

>

> -

> shishyee <shishyee

> <lalkitab >

> Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:53 PM

> [lalkitab] Hello to all. info inside if

> your new and need a remedy

> inthis group must read

>

>

> >

> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology

> group

> > very interesting reading here just wanted to

> introduce myself

> > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in

> eastern US for a

> > long time.

> > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag

> of remedies

> > readings about the present future of an individual

> but in the end

> > greed seems to be the only motive for any help

> recieved thru them

> > sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they

> need to make a living

> > too.

> > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks

> as well meaning

> > they say they might be able to solve your biggest

> problems ........

> > another thing is that if your problems remain in

> desperation you might

> > go to a few of these people and end up losing a

> bundle of money like

> > with anything else buyer beware.

> > Thats my take on this situation but after reading

> about the background

> > of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100%

> real effort by the

> > great author to serve humanity in a practical way

> and from what I hear

> > about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all

> wonderful miracles

> > and even the author writing the book to be sold at

> almost cost price

> > really blew my mind.

> > This group seems to be a continuation of that

> spirit like in the

> > really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and

> all remarkable

> > effort by him after going thru the messages no one

> really seems to

> > want to give him any credit or even count him

> among the 1 of the top

> > if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> > I know some people will not agree with what I am

> going to say next

> > because most of them will not like what I say I

> may be wrong in my

> > conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway

> here are my

> > observations about some of our other top members

> >

> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for

> help but except for a

> > few posts which were very helpful never around

> much but extremely

> > quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab

> negatively even talks

> > like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's

> copyright infringement

> > this and that etc guess he's just around to make

> sure what was

> > supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at

> cost should now be

> > turned into a profiteering tool

> >

> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking

> for new business think

> > this guy probably faked the few times he answered

> questions by some

> > members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his

> post's in the

> > begining he said he did this as a hobby and to

> help people free of

> > cost but as soon as word got out he changed his

> story that he was a

> > proffesional making a living off this........read

> the old posts its

> > all there

> > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good

> effort by starting

> > this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

> >

> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a

> while might be

> > drumming up business but not as sneaky as

> lalkitabee

> >

> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time

> wasters (maybe)

> >

> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a

> while careful not

> > to make any mistakes good guy probably will be

> pissed of at me saying

> > stuff about lalkitabee ........

> >

> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share

> knowledge freely

> > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc

> like Bhatia was

> > saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a

> moneymaker and anyone who

> > tries to will probably see the consequences of

> what happens if they do

> > in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do

> they certainly will

> > enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like

> to request the

> > great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I

> hope in the future

> > we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian

> person with no

> > treachery in his heart with a real need to help

> for the sake of

> > helping not for any ulterior motive .........

> >

> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed

> cursed or whatever I have

> > said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

> >

> > Sincerely

> > Sid

> >

> >

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Siddharth jee,

 

Aap ne gurujan ka apmaan kar ke maha paap kiya hai , gau hatya se bhi

badhkar. is ka jo bhi prayashchit aap kar sakte hai kar len. aap ne

hamko bhi is paap ka bhagee bana diya , aap ki post parhne se , kam

se kam mein aisa manata hun ki mein guru ninda sun ne ka doshi hun.

mujhe jo prayashchit karana hai woh to mein karoonga hi, is forum

mein aap se mein koi sambandh nahi rakhoonga.

 

eeshwar aap ko kshama kare !

 

sabhi gurujan ko naman,

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Sid

> I am shocked to read your e-mail about senior astrologers.I have

been taught

> that the student must be humble if he wants to gain knowledge but

your

> language was not that of a student .Even if a member is seeking

remedies

> then he should not expect any instant reply from anybody as this is

not a

> charity forum that deals in suggesting remedies to the members on

demand.

>

> If by chance you have missed to read earlier mails or could not

understand

> the aim of this group then kindly note that aim of this group is to

share

> thoughts and knowledge about lalkitab and not only to suggest

remedies to

> the members.

>

> It is the greatness of Bhatia Ji that he is in touch with the group

and

> quick to correct the analysis. He has corrected me too and I expect

only

> corrections from experts. Mr.Yograj Prabhakar too corrected me once

and i

> will remain thankful to him.

>

> Lalkitabee ji's ( shukla Ji ) only fault is ...he is helping the

members

> whenever he gets time and what he is getting in return ! unjustified

> criticism !! he is a professional astrologer still he helps the

members free

> of charge and he doesn't make any tall claims about the chamtkars

performed

> by him.I don't think he is so shrwed that he can even think of

making fake

> e-mail IDs as you have blamed. I know lalkitabee ji through this

forum only

> and haven't even met him or seen him or spoken to him. His replies

give a

> lot of info / knowledge to juniors like me.

>

> You claim that you are in USA but your language ( shameless

dukandaar )

> suggests that you yourself are somebody else living in north india

and using

> fake identity to disrespect senior members.

>

> Arjun was a successful archer because he used to aim at his target

only

> i.e. eye of the bird and he used not to see anywhere else. It seems

your aim

> to join the group is not to learn lalkitab but to generate a

negative

> feeling among the group members & spoil the atmosphere . BUT YOU &

PEOPLE

> LIKE YOU, WILL NEVER GET SUCCESS IN YOUR POISONOUS MISSION.

>

> Yours Truly

> Rajeev K Khattar

>

>

> -

> shishyee <shishyee>

> <lalkitab >

> Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:53 PM

> [lalkitab] Hello to all. info inside if your new and need

a remedy

> inthis group must read

>

>

> >

> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> > very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> > long time.

> > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> > readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> > greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> > sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> > too.

> > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> > they say they might be able to solve your biggest

problems ........

> > another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> > go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money

like

> > with anything else buyer beware.

> > Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> > of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by

the

> > great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

hear

> > about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> > and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> > really blew my mind.

> > This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> > really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> > effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> > want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the

top

> > if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> > I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> > because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> > conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> > observations about some of our other top members

> >

> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> > few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> > quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even

talks

> > like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright

infringement

> > this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> > supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> > turned into a profiteering tool

> >

> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> > this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by

some

> > members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> > begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> > cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was

a

> > proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts

its

> > all there

> > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> > this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

> >

> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> > drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

> >

> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

> >

> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful

not

> > to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> > stuff about lalkitabee ........

> >

> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> > saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone

who

> > tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if

they do

> > in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly

will

> > enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> > great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the

future

> > we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> > treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> > helping not for any ulterior motive .........

> >

> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

have

> > said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

> >

> > Sincerely

> > Sid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >