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Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

long time.

Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a living

too.

It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you might

go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

with anything else buyer beware.

Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the background

of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I hear

about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful miracles

and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost price

really blew my mind.

This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

observations about some of our other top members

 

Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except for a

few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

turned into a profiteering tool

 

Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business think

this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

all there

Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by starting

this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

 

Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

 

Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

 

Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me saying

stuff about lalkitabee ........

 

In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they do

in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

helping not for any ulterior motive .........

 

I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I have

said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

 

Sincerely

Sid

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Is it all for money ????

 

lalkitab , " shishyee " <shishyee> wrote:

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they

do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

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Sid:

 

Like you, I have also been living in the Eastern US for many years

and have been reading discussions, Q & A's on this Lal Kitab forum.

My conclusions are very different from yours and frankly I was

disappointed with the critical tone expressed in your note

particularly for the senior members prompting me to voice my opinion:

 

a) I believe that the senior members are doing a great service in

sharing knowledge, explaining LK concepts and providing remedies to

people in need - all being done by them in addition to their ongoing

personal duties and responsibilities. The whole idea behind the

seminar is also to disseminate this knowledge freely so that people

can benefit

 

b) I find Mr. Bhatia a great LK professional who goes out to help

people whenever he can. I have gone through all his messages and

never once has he talked about LK copyright - he uses this word only

in reference to a Lagna Sarini where he talks about the ethics and

legality re copyright. I am surprised that you living in the US are

not more sensitive to these concepts.

 

c) Personally I believe calling Lalkitabeejee a shameless dukandar

and implying Umesh Sharma as insincere is in bad taste. However,

you will argue that you have the freedom of speech which you sure do

have.

 

d) You took the time to write a fairly long note with lot of

criticims. I am sure the forum would welcome any positive

contributions you can make to enhance the quality of this group

 

e) You do hold Upadhyajee in high esteem and so do I having been his

student at IIT. Not sure why he is not coming to the forum anymore -

perhaps someone in Delhi can follow-up with the Humanities

department at IIT.

 

 

Regards

Vijay Arora

 

lalkitab , " shishyee " <shishyee> wrote:

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money

like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the

top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even

talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright

infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful

not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone

who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if

they do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the

future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

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Respected Sidh Ji

I read your letter But I want to say that You joined this

group at 27th aug 2004 & analyzed about this group at 28th aug 2005

at 9:23 A.M. So quick response of you ! How you read all mails of

group & prepared a decisoin with summary ,this is a miracle itself .

You specially focussed at me some ornamented words.So 1ST OF

ALL THANKS FOR THAT BUT i want to clear for ur kind information that

JAB SE MAINE LALKITAB HAATH MAIN PAKDI HAI TAB SE AAJ TAK MUJHE

KITNAA BHI GHATIYAA SE GHATIYAA AUR GANDE SE GANDAA INSAAN KYON NA

MILEY AUR KAISI BHI GHATIYAA SE GHATIYA AUR GIRI HUEE MEAN MENTALITY

KI BAAT KYON NA KARE MAIN USKI BAAT KA BURAA NAHI MAANTAA AUR USKI

TARAF ADHIK DHYAAN BHI NAHI DETAA.LEKIN AAP KE WORDS MUJHE AISE NA

FEEL HUE VE TO KAHIN GEHREY THE ISILIYE ANSWER LIKH RAHAA HOON.

AAKHIR YEH BHI TO LIFE KA EK PART HAI AUR PUNIT JI SE AGRAH KAROONGAA

KI APKO GROUP MAIN BAN NA KIYAA JAYE TAAKI AAP PEHLEY APNE HRIDAY KA

GUBAAR LALKITABEE KE PRATI POORI TARAH NIKAAL LEVAIN USKE BAAD

LALKITABEE BHI AAPKO APNE KARIB LAANE KI KOSHISH KAREGAA AGAR AAP

CHAHENGE TO. VAISE AAPKI YEH ICHCHHA KABHI NAHI HOGI MAIN YEH

JAANTAA HOON. second i never told that im not professional But in

this group is not anybody who can say me that i contacted him

personally MYSELF to improve my business & tried to grip him in my

jaws even i have no jaws. Even more mails I rejected.Chalo khair is

baat ko jaane do main to professional hi tha ,hoon aur rahoongaa aur

apne professionalism ke taur tarike ki safaayi denaa mere liye koi

jaroori nahi hai ,professional to rahoongaa hi kyonki " bhookhe bhajan

na hoye gopala. Le teri kanthi le teri maala " Lekin maine group main

kabhi professionalism nahi bikhrayaaya. Vaise aap bhi to money ke

liye apne tellent ko america main bech rahey apnaa desh chhodker.

Lekin ismain aapko itni taklif kyon hui main nahi samajh sakaa.

Are bhai , na jaane kitne ho doctors advocates, Chartered accountants

architects,tax advisors etc & astrologers bhi to bhare pade hain is

duniyaa main unse to aapko shikayat nahi huyee lalkitaabi se hi aisa

prem kyon jaagaa ? Jo aapne sunder sunder words ki bauchhar kar

dali.Kanhi to daal main kalaa hai aapki taraf se. Shameless

dukaandaar aur na jaane kyaa kyaa.Vaise maine aapke vaidic astrology

group main bhi registration kiyaa hai lekin main apni maryaadaa main

rehker hi unse permition leker hi kuchh likhoongaa aapki tarah nahi.

Kyonki is Besharm Dukandaar ko itni sharm hai ki civilized society

main kaise baat karni chahiye.Mujhe nahi lagtaa ki aap americaa main

rehtey hain kyonki vanhaan ke jo log mujhe miley ve aapki tarah

haathon main flowers aur jubaan per stones leker nahi utartey.Rahi

baat facked ids ki to ek baat main kehnaa chahoongaa ki I DID NOT

ANALYZED MORE KUNDLIES IN GROUP BECAUSE I HAVE OWN WORK OF MINE &

THAT IS 1ST OF ALL FOR ME. BUT EVERY BODY OF THE GROUP CAN ASK

CONCERNED PERSONS AT HIS LEVEL ABOUT MY CONSPIRACY OR NONCONSPIRACY

EVEN YOU ALSO.

I know you will react in meantime ,even with more ornamented

words most probably. Ho saktaa hai ki aap abusing per utaaroo ho

jayain lekin main tab bhi buraa nahi maanoonga akhir kuchh mentally

upset persons bhi to doctors ko gaali (abusing) bak dete hain iskaa

matlab yeh to nahi ki doctors uska treatment nahi kartey.Lekin uske

pagalpan ko sabit hone ke liye use poora time jaroor dete hain.

Waiting for ur kind reaction but only in a single letter plz.

Becoz :- Aur bhi gum hain jamaane main , ek teraa hi gum kaafi nahi.

With regards

Lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " shishyee " <shishyee> wrote:

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they

do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

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Respected Sidh Ji

I read your letter But I want to say that You joined this

group at 27th aug 2004 & analyzed about this group at 28th aug 2005

at 9:23 A.M. So quick response of you ! How you read all mails of

group & prepared a decisoin with summary ,this is a miracle itself .

You specially focussed at me some ornamented words.So 1ST OF

ALL THANKS FOR THAT BUT i want to clear for ur kind information that

JAB SE MAINE LALKITAB HAATH MAIN PAKDI HAI TAB SE AAJ TAK MUJHE

KITNAA BHI GHATIYAA SE GHATIYAA AUR GANDE SE GANDAA INSAAN KYON NA

MILEY AUR KAISI BHI GHATIYAA SE GHATIYA AUR GIRI HUEE MEAN MENTALITY

KI BAAT KYON NA KARE MAIN USKI BAAT KA BURAA NAHI MAANTAA AUR USKI

TARAF ADHIK DHYAAN BHI NAHI DETAA.LEKIN AAP KE WORDS MUJHE AISE NA

FEEL HUE VE TO KAHIN GEHREY THE ISILIYE ANSWER LIKH RAHAA HOON.

AAKHIR YEH BHI TO LIFE KA EK PART HAI AUR PUNIT JI SE AGRAH KAROONGAA

KI APKO GROUP MAIN BAN NA KIYAA JAYE TAAKI AAP PEHLEY APNE HRIDAY KA

GUBAAR LALKITABEE KE PRATI POORI TARAH NIKAAL LEVAIN USKE BAAD

LALKITABEE BHI AAPKO APNE KARIB LAANE KI KOSHISH KAREGAA AGAR AAP

CHAHENGE TO. VAISE AAPKI YEH ICHCHHA KABHI NAHI HOGI MAIN YEH

JAANTAA HOON. second i never told that im not professional But in

this group is not anybody say to me that i contacted him personally

MYSELF to improve my business & tried to grip him in my jaws even i

have no jaws. Even more mails I rejected.Chalo khair is baat ko jaane

do main to professional hi tha ,hoon aur rahoongaa aur apne

professionalism ke taur tarike ki safaayi denaa mere liye koi jaroori

nahi hai ,professional to rahoongaa hi kyonki " bhookhe bhajan na hoye

gopala. Le teri kanthi le teri maala " Lekin maine group main kabhi

professionalism nahi bikhrayaaya. Vaise aap bhi to money ke liye apne

tellent ko america main bech rahey apnaa sesh chhodker.

Lekin mere professional hone main aapko itni taklif kyon hui

main nahi samajh sakaa. Are bhai , na jaane kitne advocates,

Chartered accountants architects,tax advisors etc & astrologers bhi

to bhare pade hain is duniyaa main unse to aapko shikayat nahi huyee

lalkitaabi se hi aisa prem kyon jaagaa ? Jo aapne sunder sunder words

ki bauchhar kar dali.Kanhi to daal main kalaa hai aapki taraf se.

Shameless dukaandaar aur na jaane kyaa kyaa.Vaise maine aapke vaidic

astrology group main bhi registration kiyaa hai lekin main apni

maryaadaa main rehker hi unse permition leker hi kuchh likhoongaa

aapki tarah nahi. Kyonki is Besharm Dukandaar ko itni sharm hai ki

civilized society main kaise baat karni chahiye.Mujhe nahi lagtaa ki

aap americaa main rehtey hain kyonki vanhaan ke jo log mujhe miley ve

aapki tarah haathon main flowers aur jubaan per stones leker nahi

utartey.Rahi baat facked ids ki to ek baat main kehnaa chahoongaa ki

I DID NOT ANALYZED MORE KUNDLIES IN GROUP BECAUSE I HAVE OWN WORK OF

MINE & THAT IS 1ST OF ALL FOR ME. BUT EVERY BODY OF THE GROUP CAN ASK

CONCERNED PERSONS AT HIS LEVEL ABOUT MY CONSPIRACY OR NONCONSPIRACY

EVEN YOU ALSO.

I know you will react in meantime ,even with more ornamented

words most probably. Ho saktaa hai ki aap abusing per utaaroo ho

jayain lekin main tab bhi buraa nahi maanoonga akhir kuchh mentally

upset persons bhi to doctors ko gaali bak dete hain iskaa matlab yeh

to nahi ki doctors uska treatment nahi kartey.Lekin uske pagalpan ko

sabit hone ke liye use poora time jaroor dete hain.

Waiting for ur kind reaction but only in a single letter plz.

Becoz :- Aur bhi gum hain jamaane main , ek teraa hi gum kaafi nahi.

With regards

Lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " shishyee " <shishyee> wrote:

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they

do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

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Siddarth ji,

 

First of all, you are too new to group to comment on individuals. It

would be great that if have given some more time to understand the

spirit of group and then commented becoming the Lal Kitab group family

member. You have no rights to comment on individuals especially

labeling someone as " Shamelss Dukandar " .

 

If you have gone through all the posts, you can understand that this

serving the humanity is not primary objective of this group. Rather

learning Lal Kitab is the primary goal and if you are interested in

learning, you are welcome. It might be the reason that Upadhay ji has

not got his due credits.

 

If you can see from uncovered eyes, here these astrologers have done a

great job. Every coin has sides and it is up to you how you see it.

You are in US and probably don't know how few of the only astrologers

have tried to make Lal Kitab their own property. If you could

understand this fact, you would not have written like it. I am not

able to find exact words to describe the contribution of these

astrologers to the group. I am sure that everyone is getting right

guidance for Lal Kitab here.

 

I greatly appreciate your comments on me. I believe the same that I am

a learner and as usual I am trying to improve my Lal Kitab knowledge.

I am too much involved with technology, astrology and my business and

it is another reason for my lesser contribution. If you will check

recent trends, I am trying to increase my contribution especially

after getting feedback from some members. But just to repeat,

commenting on anyone directly especially using words like " shameless

dukaandar " is not at all acceptable and I request you to refrain from

using such a language in future.

 

Finally, it is a welcome change for the group that someone joining the

group (probably just) for criticizing individuals. It shows that the

group (and indirectly the people behind it) is doing sufficiently good

to promote Lal Kitab. If you have such a feedback, especially if

something that can hurt someone, you can send it directly to me rather

than putting it on board.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:23:03 -0000, shishyee <shishyee wrote:

>

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

>

>

>

>

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i am new in this group. i am an kp astrologer but i have intrest in LALKITAB

so i joint this group

 

bade dukh ki bat hai ki mane atehi logo ko ek dusre par kichad uchal te de

kha . yah hamari sanskruti nahi hai.our sidh ji ka koy vasta hamari

sanskruti se nahi lagta.var na vah aisi bat kabhi nahi likhate.SIDHJI KO KYA

ADHIKAR HAI KISI KE BAREMA KUCHH BHI LI KHA NE KA?????

agar sidhji ko kisi se koi sikayat hai ya unhe yah lagta hai ki yah lalkitab

group thik nahi hai to unhai chahiye ki vah yah group chhod de.koyu chalu

hai abhi tak?????

 

yanha ham kuchh sikhane ki niyat se aye hai nahi ki kisi ko gali dene. agar

lalkitabee ji proff. hai to kya huva koi gunaha hai??? bhagavan ne agar

admiko dono taraf pith di ho ti our pet nahi diya hota tab to apako aisa

likhane ka adhikar tha.lekin aisa nahi hai.yahi haki kat hai.

 

SIDH JI KO CHA HIYE KI VAH KHUD HI YAH GROUP CHHOD DE.

 

ho sakata hai ki mera message padhh ne ke bad sidh ji muje bhi gali de>

ha..ha...ha...

 

kanak

 

>Punit Pandey <punitp

>lalkitab

>lalkitab

>Re: [lalkitab] Hello to all. info inside if your new and need a

>remedy in this group must read

>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:25:48 +0530

>

>Siddarth ji,

>

>First of all, you are too new to group to comment on individuals. It

>would be great that if have given some more time to understand the

>spirit of group and then commented becoming the Lal Kitab group family

>member. You have no rights to comment on individuals especially

>labeling someone as " Shamelss Dukandar " .

>

>If you have gone through all the posts, you can understand that this

>serving the humanity is not primary objective of this group. Rather

>learning Lal Kitab is the primary goal and if you are interested in

>learning, you are welcome. It might be the reason that Upadhay ji has

>not got his due credits.

>

>If you can see from uncovered eyes, here these astrologers have done a

>great job. Every coin has sides and it is up to you how you see it.

>You are in US and probably don't know how few of the only astrologers

>have tried to make Lal Kitab their own property. If you could

>understand this fact, you would not have written like it. I am not

>able to find exact words to describe the contribution of these

>astrologers to the group. I am sure that everyone is getting right

>guidance for Lal Kitab here.

>

>I greatly appreciate your comments on me. I believe the same that I am

>a learner and as usual I am trying to improve my Lal Kitab knowledge.

>I am too much involved with technology, astrology and my business and

>it is another reason for my lesser contribution. If you will check

>recent trends, I am trying to increase my contribution especially

>after getting feedback from some members. But just to repeat,

>commenting on anyone directly especially using words like " shameless

>dukaandar " is not at all acceptable and I request you to refrain from

>using such a language in future.

>

>Finally, it is a welcome change for the group that someone joining the

>group (probably just) for criticizing individuals. It shows that the

>group (and indirectly the people behind it) is doing sufficiently good

>to promote Lal Kitab. If you have such a feedback, especially if

>something that can hurt someone, you can send it directly to me rather

>than putting it on board.

>

>Thanks & Regards,

>

>Punit Pandey

>

>On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:23:03 -0000, shishyee <shishyee wrote:

> >

> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> > very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> > long time.

> > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> > readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> > greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> > sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a living

> > too.

> > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> > they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> > another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you might

> > go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> > with anything else buyer beware.

> > Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the background

> > of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> > great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I hear

> > about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful miracles

> > and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost price

> > really blew my mind.

> > This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> > really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> > effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> > want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> > if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> > I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> > because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> > conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> > observations about some of our other top members

> >

> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except for a

> > few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> > quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> > like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> > this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> > supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> > turned into a profiteering tool

> >

> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business think

> > this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> > members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> > begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> > cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> > proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> > all there

> > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by starting

> > this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

> >

> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> > drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

> >

> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

> >

> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> > to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me saying

> > stuff about lalkitabee ........

> >

> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> > saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> > tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they do

> > in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> > enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> > great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> > we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> > treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> > helping not for any ulterior motive .........

> >

> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I have

> > said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

> >

> > Sincerely

> > Sid

> >

> >

> >

> >

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dear Siddarth ji,

I have gone through your letter and it clearly shows the the type of

background u belong . I may have differences with any person but

under no circumstances you should use the language " shameless.... "

Mr Lalkitabee jee did not come to your house so as to press you that

he is the best.THESE PEOPLE DO NOT NEED ANY CERTIFICATE FROM YOU.I

fail to understand that who gave an authority to behave like an

Inspector.If you are facing any problems then share with forum so

that even if these are not solved atleast Apka maan to halka ho

jayegaa.

May God Bless All of Us.

 

rakesh sharma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Siddarth ji,

>

> First of all, you are too new to group to comment on individuals.

It

> would be great that if have given some more time to understand the

> spirit of group and then commented becoming the Lal Kitab group

family

> member. You have no rights to comment on individuals especially

> labeling someone as " Shamelss Dukandar " .

>

> If you have gone through all the posts, you can understand that

this

> serving the humanity is not primary objective of this group. Rather

> learning Lal Kitab is the primary goal and if you are interested in

> learning, you are welcome. It might be the reason that Upadhay ji

has

> not got his due credits.

>

> If you can see from uncovered eyes, here these astrologers have

done a

> great job. Every coin has sides and it is up to you how you see it.

> You are in US and probably don't know how few of the only

astrologers

> have tried to make Lal Kitab their own property. If you could

> understand this fact, you would not have written like it. I am not

> able to find exact words to describe the contribution of these

> astrologers to the group. I am sure that everyone is getting right

> guidance for Lal Kitab here.

>

> I greatly appreciate your comments on me. I believe the same that

I am

> a learner and as usual I am trying to improve my Lal Kitab

knowledge.

> I am too much involved with technology, astrology and my business

and

> it is another reason for my lesser contribution. If you will check

> recent trends, I am trying to increase my contribution especially

> after getting feedback from some members. But just to repeat,

> commenting on anyone directly especially using words

like " shameless

> dukaandar " is not at all acceptable and I request you to refrain

from

> using such a language in future.

>

> Finally, it is a welcome change for the group that someone joining

the

> group (probably just) for criticizing individuals. It shows that

the

> group (and indirectly the people behind it) is doing sufficiently

good

> to promote Lal Kitab. If you have such a feedback, especially if

> something that can hurt someone, you can send it directly to me

rather

> than putting it on board.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:23:03 -0000, shishyee <shishyee> wrote:

> >

> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> > very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for

a

> > long time.

> > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> > readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> > greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> > sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> > too.

> > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> > they say they might be able to solve your biggest

problems ........

> > another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> > go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money

like

> > with anything else buyer beware.

> > Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> > of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by

the

> > great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what

I hear

> > about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> > and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> > really blew my mind.

> > This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> > really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> > effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems

to

> > want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the

top

> > if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> > I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say

next

> > because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in

my

> > conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> > observations about some of our other top members

> >

> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> > few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> > quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even

talks

> > like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright

infringement

> > this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> > supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now

be

> > turned into a profiteering tool

> >

> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> > this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by

some

> > members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> > begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free

of

> > cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he

was a

> > proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts

its

> > all there

> > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> > this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

> >

> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> > drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

> >

> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

> >

> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful

not

> > to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> > stuff about lalkitabee ........

> >

> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> > saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone

who

> > tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if

they do

> > in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly

will

> > enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> > great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the

future

> > we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> > treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> > helping not for any ulterior motive .........

> >

> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever

I have

> > said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

> >

> > Sincerely

> > Sid

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Pandey Ji,

and all group members this group seems to be bunch of posseessive and impateint people.Except 2-3 every body is trying to pull down other member and they all are using absurd and abusive language.Every body has right to express his or her view why to take it othervise or personal attack on some body.

It is better to say good bye to all of you learned people.I deeply regret if i have hurt any body,

 

God bless you all.

 

Ravindra PancholiPunit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Siddarth ji,First of all, you are too new to group to comment on individuals. Itwould be great that if have given some more time to understand thespirit of group and then commented becoming the Lal Kitab group familymember. You have no rights to comment on individuals especiallylabeling someone as "Shamelss Dukandar".If you have gone through all the posts, you can understand that thisserving the humanity is not primary objective of this group. Ratherlearning Lal Kitab is the primary goal and if you are interested inlearning, you are welcome. It might be the reason that Upadhay ji hasnot got his due credits.If you can see from uncovered eyes, here these astrologers have done agreat job. Every coin has sides and it is up to you how you see it.You are in US and probably don't know how few of the only astrologershave

tried to make Lal Kitab their own property. If you couldunderstand this fact, you would not have written like it. I am notable to find exact words to describe the contribution of theseastrologers to the group. I am sure that everyone is getting rightguidance for Lal Kitab here.I greatly appreciate your comments on me. I believe the same that I ama learner and as usual I am trying to improve my Lal Kitab knowledge.I am too much involved with technology, astrology and my business andit is another reason for my lesser contribution. If you will checkrecent trends, I am trying to increase my contribution especiallyafter getting feedback from some members. But just to repeat,commenting on anyone directly especially using words like "shamelessdukaandar" is not at all acceptable and I request you to refrain fromusing such a language in future.Finally, it is a welcome change for the group that someone joining thegroup

(probably just) for criticizing individuals. It shows that thegroup (and indirectly the people behind it) is doing sufficiently goodto promote Lal Kitab. If you have such a feedback, especially ifsomething that can hurt someone, you can send it directly to me ratherthan putting it on board.Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:23:03 -0000, shishyee <shishyee wrote:> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a> long time.> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a living>

too.> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you might> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like> with anything else buyer beware.> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the background> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I hear> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful miracles> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost price> really blew my mind.> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to>

want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my> observations about some of our other top members> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except for a> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be> turned into a profiteering tool> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its> all there> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by starting> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me saying> stuff about lalkitabee ........> > In conclusion I

would request everyone to share knowledge freely> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they do> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of> helping not for any ulterior motive .........> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I have> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth> > Sincerely> Sid> > > >

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Dear Mr. Sid ,

 

Don't you think you have been a bit too harsh ? You could have been

blunt and still very polite. I too have a feeling that a few people

don't want to share knowledge in the forum. Well , they might have

their own reasons for it ; finally I gave up insisting for

information. But one thing I am sure , if this attitude of holding

back information continues , there can't be much of a meaningful

discussion or learning in the group. At best it might end up as a

forum for remedies ; that too , now and then and far in between.

 

Sincerely,

 

Priya

 

ps : I ain't no f****** time waster.

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , " shishyee " <shishyee> wrote:

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if they

do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

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Priya ji

You can't blame others for not sharing the information.

Look at yourself .. you didn't even share your LOL with us yet.

Hope I am not offending you in any way and I am not too harsh on you.

 

Gullu

 

lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya>

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Sid ,

>

> Don't you think you have been a bit too harsh ? You could have been

> blunt and still very polite. I too have a feeling that a few people

> don't want to share knowledge in the forum. Well , they might have

> their own reasons for it ; finally I gave up insisting for

> information. But one thing I am sure , if this attitude of holding

> back information continues , there can't be much of a meaningful

> discussion or learning in the group. At best it might end up as a

> forum for remedies ; that too , now and then and far in

between.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Priya

>

> ps : I ain't no f****** time waster.

lalkitab , " shishyee " <shishyee> wrote:

> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology group

> > very interesting reading here just wanted to introduce myself

> > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in eastern US for a

> > long time.

> > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag of remedies

> > readings about the present future of an individual but in the end

> > greed seems to be the only motive for any help recieved thru them

> > sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they need to make a

> living

> > too.

> > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as well meaning

> > they say they might be able to solve your biggest

problems ........

> > another thing is that if your problems remain in desperation you

> might

> > go to a few of these people and end up losing a bundle of money

like

> > with anything else buyer beware.

> > Thats my take on this situation but after reading about the

> background

> > of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100% real effort by

the

> > great author to serve humanity in a practical way and from what I

> hear

> > about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all wonderful

> miracles

> > and even the author writing the book to be sold at almost cost

> price

> > really blew my mind.

> > This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit like in the

> > really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and all remarkable

> > effort by him after going thru the messages no one really seems to

> > want to give him any credit or even count him among the 1 of the

top

> > if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> > I know some people will not agree with what I am going to say next

> > because most of them will not like what I say I may be wrong in my

> > conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway here are my

> > observations about some of our other top members

> >

> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for help but except

> for a

> > few posts which were very helpful never around much but extremely

> > quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab negatively even

talks

> > like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's copyright

infringement

> > this and that etc guess he's just around to make sure what was

> > supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost should now be

> > turned into a profiteering tool

> >

> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for new business

> think

> > this guy probably faked the few times he answered questions by

some

> > members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his post's in the

> > begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help people free of

> > cost but as soon as word got out he changed his story that he was

a

> > proffesional making a living off this........read the old posts

its

> > all there

> > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good effort by

> starting

> > this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

> >

> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a while might be

> > drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

> >

> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters (maybe)

> >

> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a while careful

not

> > to make any mistakes good guy probably will be pissed of at me

> saying

> > stuff about lalkitabee ........

> >

> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share knowledge freely

> > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc like Bhatia was

> > saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a moneymaker and anyone

who

> > tries to will probably see the consequences of what happens if

they

> do

> > in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they certainly

will

> > enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like to request the

> > great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I hope in the

future

> > we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian person with no

> > treachery in his heart with a real need to help for the sake of

> > helping not for any ulterior motive .........

> >

> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed or whatever I

> have

> > said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

> >

> > Sincerely

> > Sid

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Hi Sidharth,

 

I strongly disagree with you. I would normally ignore

any such posting on the forum because I believe that

just because an individual came to some hasty

conclusions, doesn't mean that it become true or would

affect the direction of this group, but your words

were way too strong to be simply ignored.

I think all the experts you have criticized here are

doing a great job of expanding the knowledge of LK and

helping others, without any selfish motives. I can

specially say for Bhatia ji (I'm sure its true for

other gurujans as well) as he has guided me personally

and I absolutely don't see any other motive than to

help me out.

If by any chance you are someone (with some other id)

who posted a request to analyze your horoscope and is

still waiting for a response, so instead of getting

frustrated like this post a humble & polite reminder.

If you are here to learn about LK, then I would say

shishyae ka to ati namr hona chahiae tabhi kuch sikha

ja sakta hai.

 

Hats off to all the respected Gurujans for their good

work!

 

Regards,

Sarita

 

 

--- shishyee <shishyee wrote:

 

> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology

> group

> very interesting reading here just wanted to

> introduce myself

> to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in

> eastern US for a

> long time.

> Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag

> of remedies

> readings about the present future of an individual

> but in the end

> greed seems to be the only motive for any help

> recieved thru them

> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they

> need to make a living

> too.

> It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as

> well meaning

> they say they might be able to solve your biggest

> problems ........

> another thing is that if your problems remain in

> desperation you might

> go to a few of these people and end up losing a

> bundle of money like

> with anything else buyer beware.

> Thats my take on this situation but after reading

> about the background

> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100%

> real effort by the

> great author to serve humanity in a practical way

> and from what I hear

> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all

> wonderful miracles

> and even the author writing the book to be sold at

> almost cost price

> really blew my mind.

> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit

> like in the

> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and

> all remarkable

> effort by him after going thru the messages no one

> really seems to

> want to give him any credit or even count him among

> the 1 of the top

> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> I know some people will not agree with what I am

> going to say next

> because most of them will not like what I say I may

> be wrong in my

> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway

> here are my

> observations about some of our other top members

>

> Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for

> help but except for a

> few posts which were very helpful never around much

> but extremely

> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab

> negatively even talks

> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's

> copyright infringement

> this and that etc guess he's just around to make

> sure what was

> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost

> should now be

> turned into a profiteering tool

>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for

> new business think

> this guy probably faked the few times he answered

> questions by some

> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his

> post's in the

> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help

> people free of

> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his

> story that he was a

> proffesional making a living off this........read

> the old posts its

> all there

> Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good

> effort by starting

> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a

> while might be

> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee

>

> Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters

> (maybe)

>

> Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a

> while careful not

> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be

> pissed of at me saying

> stuff about lalkitabee ........

>

> In conclusion I would request everyone to share

> knowledge freely

> dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc

> like Bhatia was

> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a

> moneymaker and anyone who

> tries to will probably see the consequences of what

> happens if they do

> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they

> certainly will

> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like

> to request the

> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I

> hope in the future

> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian

> person with no

> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for

> the sake of

> helping not for any ulterior motive .........

>

> I dont care after this if I am banned booed cursed

> or whatever I have

> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

>

> Sincerely

> Sid

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pranam Gurujans,

 

I agree with what Sarita Puri has written. I think so

these types of elements are very common who want to

disturb the peace and harmony of something going on

better and good.

 

I think this should be ignored that also without

wasting time in answering back as it would be a waste

of good time.

 

Regards,

 

Prashant P

 

--- Sarita Puri <saritapuri wrote:

 

> Hi Sidharth,

>

> I strongly disagree with you. I would normally

> ignore

> any such posting on the forum because I believe that

> just because an individual came to some hasty

> conclusions, doesn't mean that it become true or

> would

> affect the direction of this group, but your words

> were way too strong to be simply ignored.

> I think all the experts you have criticized here are

> doing a great job of expanding the knowledge of LK

> and

> helping others, without any selfish motives. I can

> specially say for Bhatia ji (I'm sure its true for

> other gurujans as well) as he has guided me

> personally

> and I absolutely don't see any other motive than to

> help me out.

> If by any chance you are someone (with some other

> id)

> who posted a request to analyze your horoscope and

> is

> still waiting for a response, so instead of getting

> frustrated like this post a humble & polite

> reminder.

> If you are here to learn about LK, then I would say

> shishyae ka to ati namr hona chahiae tabhi kuch

> sikha

> ja sakta hai.

>

> Hats off to all the respected Gurujans for their

> good

> work!

>

> Regards,

> Sarita

>

>

> --- shishyee <shishyee wrote:

>

> > Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology

> > group

> > very interesting reading here just wanted to

> > introduce myself

> > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in

> > eastern US for a

> > long time.

> > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag

> > of remedies

> > readings about the present future of an individual

> > but in the end

> > greed seems to be the only motive for any help

> > recieved thru them

> > sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they

> > need to make a living

> > too.

> > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks

> as

> > well meaning

> > they say they might be able to solve your biggest

> > problems ........

> > another thing is that if your problems remain in

> > desperation you might

> > go to a few of these people and end up losing a

> > bundle of money like

> > with anything else buyer beware.

> > Thats my take on this situation but after reading

> > about the background

> > of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100%

> > real effort by the

> > great author to serve humanity in a practical way

> > and from what I hear

> > about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all

> > wonderful miracles

> > and even the author writing the book to be sold at

> > almost cost price

> > really blew my mind.

> > This group seems to be a continuation of that

> spirit

> > like in the

> > really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and

> > all remarkable

> > effort by him after going thru the messages no one

> > really seems to

> > want to give him any credit or even count him

> among

> > the 1 of the top

> > if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.

> > I know some people will not agree with what I am

> > going to say next

> > because most of them will not like what I say I

> may

> > be wrong in my

> > conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway

> > here are my

> > observations about some of our other top members

> >

> > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for

> > help but except for a

> > few posts which were very helpful never around

> much

> > but extremely

> > quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab

> > negatively even talks

> > like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's

> > copyright infringement

> > this and that etc guess he's just around to make

> > sure what was

> > supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at

> cost

> > should now be

> > turned into a profiteering tool

> >

> > Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking

> for

> > new business think

> > this guy probably faked the few times he answered

> > questions by some

> > members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his

> > post's in the

> > begining he said he did this as a hobby and to

> help

> > people free of

> > cost but as soon as word got out he changed his

> > story that he was a

> > proffesional making a living off this........read

> > the old posts its

> > all there

> > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good

> > effort by starting

> > this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help

>

> >

> > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a

> > while might be

> > drumming up business but not as sneaky as

> lalkitabee

> >

> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time

> wasters

> > (maybe)

> >

> > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a

> > while careful not

> > to make any mistakes good guy probably will be

> > pissed of at me saying

> > stuff about lalkitabee ........

> >

> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share

> > knowledge freely

> > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc

> > like Bhatia was

> > saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a

> > moneymaker and anyone who

> > tries to will probably see the consequences of

> what

> > happens if they do

> > in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do

> they

> > certainly will

> > enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like

> > to request the

> > great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I

> > hope in the future

> > we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian

> > person with no

> > treachery in his heart with a real need to help

> for

> > the sake of

> > helping not for any ulterior motive .........

> >

> > I dont care after this if I am banned booed

> cursed

> > or whatever I have

> > said what I felt in my heart to be the truth

> >

> > Sincerely

> > Sid

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mr.Siddarath,

 

I think you are unable to understand the scope of this group. Might be some delayin answring, it happened to me also, but that does not mean , this learned gurujans are not helping at all etc. I got the remedy, and did the same upay what was suggested by the respected gurujans.

 

Eventhough I asked so many clarfications , the group members came forward and helped me. One of the member helped me in getting the material , in fact the material was coureired to me.

 

Pl. do not utter such remarks. Before pin pointing any body you should see your back. This group contains learned people who are doing free service for the benefit of members.

 

If you are really aggrived by any of the member you should comeforward and narrate the incident, so that the tension which you might faced will be known to everybody and that helps others to comefoward to suggest whatever best possible.

 

But for god sake don't write such harsh letters to any body whether it is group members, or your own relatives, it hurts their feelings. I hope you will understand this.

 

Regards

Shyam

Sarita Puri <saritapuri wrote:

Hi Sidharth,I strongly disagree with you. I would normally ignoreany such posting on the forum because I believe thatjust because an individual came to some hastyconclusions, doesn't mean that it become true or wouldaffect the direction of this group, but your wordswere way too strong to be simply ignored. I think all the experts you have criticized here aredoing a great job of expanding the knowledge of LK andhelping others, without any selfish motives. I canspecially say for Bhatia ji (I'm sure its true forother gurujans as well) as he has guided me personallyand I absolutely don't see any other motive than tohelp me out.If by any chance you are someone (with some other id)who posted a request to analyze your horoscope and isstill waiting for a response, so instead of gettingfrustrated like this post a humble

& polite reminder. If you are here to learn about LK, then I would sayshishyae ka to ati namr hona chahiae tabhi kuch sikhaja sakta hai.Hats off to all the respected Gurujans for their goodwork!Regards,Sarita--- shishyee wrote:> Hi came across this group while in vedic astrology> group> very interesting reading here just wanted to> introduce myself > to all my name is Sid(siddarth) I am in living in> eastern US for a> long time. > Lot of astrologers/pundits here who have a mix bag> of remedies> readings about the present future of an individual> but in the end> greed seems to be the only motive for any help> recieved thru them> sorry if I sound a little disillusioned and they> need to make a living> too. > It's also asking a lot in return for a few bucks as> well meaning > they

say they might be able to solve your biggest> problems ........> another thing is that if your problems remain in> desperation you might> go to a few of these people and end up losing a> bundle of money like> with anything else buyer beware. > Thats my take on this situation but after reading> about the background> of Lal Kitab I was impressed that it was an 100%> real effort by the> great author to serve humanity in a practical way> and from what I hear> about past accounts by the beneficiaries of it all> wonderful miracles> and even the author writing the book to be sold at> almost cost price > really blew my mind.> This group seems to be a continuation of that spirit> like in the> really selfless way Dr.Uppadhay was helping 1 and> all remarkable> effort by him after going thru the messages no one> really seems to>

want to give him any credit or even count him among> the 1 of the top> if not the top member here hmmm thats very sad.> I know some people will not agree with what I am> going to say next> because most of them will not like what I say I may> be wrong in my> conclusions but I will say it nevertheless anyway> here are my> observations about some of our other top members > > Rajinder Bhatia: All members want to ask him for> help but except for a> few posts which were very helpful never around much> but extremely> quick to respond if anyone discusses lal kitab> negatively even talks> like a lawyer for panditjee's sons interest's> copyright infringement> this and that etc guess he's just around to make> sure what was> supposed to be an effort to spread knowledge at cost> should now be> turned into a profiteering tool>

> Lalkitabee: Shameless dukandar out here looking for> new business think> this guy probably faked the few times he answered> questions by some> members it was 99% staged by him.If you read his> post's in the> begining he said he did this as a hobby and to help> people free of> cost but as soon as word got out he changed his> story that he was a> proffesional making a living off this........read> the old posts its> all there > Punit Pandey: Learner probably long way to go good> effort by starting> this group doesnt take a lot of request's for help > > Mudit aka Umesh Sharma: Makes an effort once in a> while might be> drumming up business but not as sneaky as lalkitabee> > Rakesh,Kulbir,Priya: Beginners hobbyist time wasters> (maybe) > > Bhuwan: intermediate level decent effort once in a> while careful

not> to make any mistakes good guy probably will be> pissed of at me saying > stuff about lalkitabee ........> > In conclusion I would request everyone to share> knowledge freely > dont ever worry about copyright infringement etc> like Bhatia was> saying Lalkitab was never intended to be a> moneymaker and anyone who> tries to will probably see the consequences of what> happens if they do> in their lifes no matter how many upaya they do they> certainly will> enjoy here then go straight to narak. I would like> to request the> great Uppadhayjee to come back to the group and I> hope in the future> we learn to recognize a real scholar,humanitarian> person with no> treachery in his heart with a real need to help for> the sake of> helping not for any ulterior motive .........> > I dont care after this if I am banned

booed cursed> or whatever I have> said what I felt in my heart to be the truth > > Sincerely > Sid > > > > > >

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