Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please comment

August 14, 2004

Horoscope of Harrit Pall

12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

JanamKundali

Mars & Rahu in 2nd

Sat in 6

Moon & Ketu on 8th

Sun + Mer in 10

Ven in 11

Jup in 12

As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not in bund muththi (

1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever educated he may be.! he

should wear a white cap always, to grow in profession ( his burning

problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure white colour only..no

logos/no designs.

he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours will suit him.

He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

if his house has door or window in west....not good. there should not be light

from west direction.his neighbours may be issueless.

He should not stay with his in-laws.

VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

moon and ketu in lagna

mars and rahu in 2

sat in 3

ven in 4

sun and mer in 7

jup in 11

moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver tumblers will yield

in more peace of mind & better finances.

rahu..silent in presence of mars

sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed at-least 3 dogs

daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ?? donate eye drops in a

charitable dispensry.

no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals again with wife.

not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any reason..or not in

good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN for any unclaimed deadbody.

fulfill your commitments

keep taking blessings from your father will help you to solve all your problems.

wishing you good luck

Rajeev K Khattar

August 14, 2004

Respected Khattar Sahib,

If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a request for

you.

Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant portion of the

text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and Moon not in

any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all planets

give good results)?

I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will kindly grant my

request. This will be a great help to all learners like me. Thanking

you,

Respectfully

R S

lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

>

> JanamKundali

>

> Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> Sat in 6

> Moon & Ketu on 8th

> Sun + Mer in 10

> Ven in 11

> Jup in 12

>

> As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not in bund

muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

>

> Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever educated he

may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in profession (

his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure white

colour only..no logos/no designs.

> he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours will suit

him.

>

> He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

>

> if his house has door or window in west....not good. there should

not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be issueless.

>

> He should not stay with his in-laws.

>

> VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

>

> moon and ketu in lagna

> mars and rahu in 2

> sat in 3

> ven in 4

> sun and mer in 7

> jup in 11

>

> moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver

tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better finances.

>

> rahu..silent in presence of mars

>

> sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed at-least

3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ?? donate

eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

>

> wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals again with

wife.

>

> not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any

reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN for any

unclaimed deadbody.

>

> fulfill your commitments

>

> keep taking blessings from your father will help you to solve all

your problems.

>

> wishing you good luck

> Rajeev K Khattar

August 16, 2004

Dear RS

Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to analyse a

horoscope is to

start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to learn and clear our

fundae.

Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun Samhita ,khana

number 4..point no.4

Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

Regards

Rajeev K Khattar

-

rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal

Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please comment

> Respected Khattar Sahib,

>

> If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a request for

> you.

>

> Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant portion of the

> text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and Moon not in

> any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all planets

> give good results)?

>

> I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will kindly grant my

> request. This will be a great help to all learners like me. Thanking

> you,

>

> Respectfully

>

> R S

> lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> >

> > JanamKundali

> >

> > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > Sat in 6

> > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > Sun + Mer in 10

> > Ven in 11

> > Jup in 12

> >

> > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not in bund

> muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> >

> > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever educated he

> may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in profession (

> his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure white

> colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours will suit

> him.

> >

> > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> >

> > if his house has door or window in west....not good. there should

> not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be issueless.

> >

> > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> >

> > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> >

> > moon and ketu in lagna

> > mars and rahu in 2

> > sat in 3

> > ven in 4

> > sun and mer in 7

> > jup in 11

> >

> > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver

> tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better finances.

> >

> > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> >

> > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed at-least

> 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ?? donate

> eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> >

> > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals again with

> wife.

> >

> > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any

> reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN for any

> unclaimed deadbody.

> >

> > fulfill your commitments

> >

> > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to solve all

> your problems.

> >

> > wishing you good luck

> > Rajeev K Khattar

>

August 16, 2004

Rajeev Jee

Thanks very much for pointing out the specific portion to me. Although

I dont have AS ver of LK I have G & V (which is probably not as

accurate as your book) and it states, I quote

" IF MOON IS OUTSIDE Hs # 1,4,7 & 10 AND KHAANA #4 IS BLANK, THEN THE

EFFECT OF MOON ON ALL OTHER PLANETS AND ITSELF WIL BE BENEFIC EVEN IF

MOON ITSELF IS POOR/MALEFIC/DEBILITATED "

What I can infer from this is that Moon by aspect or any other

relationship shall have a positive impact on the planets it impacts.

With all due respect , I would like to suggest that this doesnt convey

the impression that all planets are positively impacted irrespective

of wherever they may be. If my understanding is flawed(of which there

is a high probability) please be kind enough to correct me. If by

chance my understanding is correct then the malefics and benefics have

to be looked at afresh.

I look forward to your valued guidance. Thanking you,

Respectfully

R S

lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

wrote:

> Dear RS

> Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to analyse

a

> horoscope is to

> start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to learn and

clear our

> fundae.

>

> Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun Samhita

,khana

> number 4..point no.4

>

> Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

>

> Regards

> Rajeev K Khattar

>

> -

> rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> <lalkitab >

> Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

comment

>

> > Respected Khattar Sahib,

> >

> > If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a request for

> > you.

> >

> > Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant portion of the

> > text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and Moon

not in

> > any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all planets

> > give good results)?

> >

> > I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will kindly

grant my

> > request. This will be a great help to all learners like me.

Thanking

> > you,

> >

> > Respectfully

> >

> > R S

> > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> > >

> > > JanamKundali

> > >

> > > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > > Sat in 6

> > > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > > Sun + Mer in 10

> > > Ven in 11

> > > Jup in 12

> > >

> > > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not in

bund

> > muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> > >

> > > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever

educated he

> > may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in profession

(

> > his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure

white

> > colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours will

suit

> > him.

> > >

> > > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> > >

> > > if his house has door or window in west....not good. there

should

> > not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be issueless.

> > >

> > > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> > >

> > > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> > >

> > > moon and ketu in lagna

> > > mars and rahu in 2

> > > sat in 3

> > > ven in 4

> > > sun and mer in 7

> > > jup in 11

> > >

> > > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver

> > tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better finances.

> > >

> > > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> > >

> > > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed

at-least

> > 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ??

donate

> > eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> > >

> > > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals again

with

> > wife.

> > >

> > > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any

> > reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN for any

> > unclaimed deadbody.

> > >

> > > fulfill your commitments

> > >

> > > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to solve

all

> > your problems.

> > >

> > > wishing you good luck

> > > Rajeev K Khattar

> >

August 16, 2004

Dear RS

don't look forward to my guidance. we both should expect some gurujan to

comment.

REgards

Rajeev K Khattar

-

rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal

Monday, August 16, 2004 3:49 PM

[lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please comment

>

> Rajeev Jee

>

> Thanks very much for pointing out the specific portion to me. Although

> I dont have AS ver of LK I have G & V (which is probably not as

> accurate as your book) and it states, I quote

>

> " IF MOON IS OUTSIDE Hs # 1,4,7 & 10 AND KHAANA #4 IS BLANK, THEN THE

> EFFECT OF MOON ON ALL OTHER PLANETS AND ITSELF WIL BE BENEFIC EVEN IF

> MOON ITSELF IS POOR/MALEFIC/DEBILITATED "

>

> What I can infer from this is that Moon by aspect or any other

> relationship shall have a positive impact on the planets it impacts.

> With all due respect , I would like to suggest that this doesnt convey

> the impression that all planets are positively impacted irrespective

> of wherever they may be. If my understanding is flawed(of which there

> is a high probability) please be kind enough to correct me. If by

> chance my understanding is correct then the malefics and benefics have

> to be looked at afresh.

>

> I look forward to your valued guidance. Thanking you,

>

> Respectfully

>

> R S

>

> lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

> wrote:

> > Dear RS

> > Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to analyse

> a

> > horoscope is to

> > start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to learn and

> clear our

> > fundae.

> >

> > Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun Samhita

> ,khana

> > number 4..point no.4

> >

> > Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rajeev K Khattar

> >

> > -

> > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > <lalkitab >

> > Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

> > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

> comment

> >

> > > Respected Khattar Sahib,

> > >

> > > If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a request for

> > > you.

> > >

> > > Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant portion of the

> > > text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and Moon

> not in

> > > any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all planets

> > > give good results)?

> > >

> > > I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will kindly

> grant my

> > > request. This will be a great help to all learners like me.

> Thanking

> > > you,

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > >

> > > R S

> > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > > > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > > > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> > > >

> > > > JanamKundali

> > > >

> > > > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > > > Sat in 6

> > > > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > > > Sun + Mer in 10

> > > > Ven in 11

> > > > Jup in 12

> > > >

> > > > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not in

> bund

> > > muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> > > >

> > > > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever

> educated he

> > > may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in profession

> (

> > > his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure

> white

> > > colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > > > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours will

> suit

> > > him.

> > > >

> > > > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> > > >

> > > > if his house has door or window in west....not good. there

> should

> > > not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be issueless.

> > > >

> > > > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> > > >

> > > > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> > > >

> > > > moon and ketu in lagna

> > > > mars and rahu in 2

> > > > sat in 3

> > > > ven in 4

> > > > sun and mer in 7

> > > > jup in 11

> > > >

> > > > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver

> > > tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better finances.

> > > >

> > > > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> > > >

> > > > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed

> at-least

> > > 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ??

> donate

> > > eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > > > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> > > >

> > > > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > > > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals again

> with

> > > wife.

> > > >

> > > > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > > > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any

> > > reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN for any

> > > unclaimed deadbody.

> > > >

> > > > fulfill your commitments

> > > >

> > > > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to solve

> all

> > > your problems.

> > > >

> > > > wishing you good luck

> > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > >

August 16, 2004

Rajeev Ji

In my opinion you are no less than any one, if however you wish to

pass on this one I can only feel disappointed.

Let's hope Umesh ji, Shukla ji,Prabhakar ji or Punit ji will take the

trouble and help me out.

Respectfully

R S

lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

wrote:

> Dear RS

> don't look forward to my guidance. we both should expect some

gurujan to

> comment.

> REgards

> Rajeev K Khattar

> -

> rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> <lalkitab >

> Monday, August 16, 2004 3:49 PM

> [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

comment

>

> >

> > Rajeev Jee

> >

> > Thanks very much for pointing out the specific portion to me.

Although

> > I dont have AS ver of LK I have G & V (which is probably not as

> > accurate as your book) and it states, I quote

> >

> > " IF MOON IS OUTSIDE Hs # 1,4,7 & 10 AND KHAANA #4 IS BLANK, THEN

THE

> > EFFECT OF MOON ON ALL OTHER PLANETS AND ITSELF WIL BE BENEFIC

EVEN IF

> > MOON ITSELF IS POOR/MALEFIC/DEBILITATED "

> >

> > What I can infer from this is that Moon by aspect or any other

> > relationship shall have a positive impact on the planets it

impacts.

> > With all due respect , I would like to suggest that this doesnt

convey

> > the impression that all planets are positively impacted

irrespective

> > of wherever they may be. If my understanding is flawed(of which

there

> > is a high probability) please be kind enough to correct me. If by

> > chance my understanding is correct then the malefics and benefics

have

> > to be looked at afresh.

> >

> > I look forward to your valued guidance. Thanking you,

> >

> > Respectfully

> >

> > R S

> >

> > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear RS

> > > Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to

analyse

> > a

> > > horoscope is to

> > > start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to learn

and

> > clear our

> > > fundae.

> > >

> > > Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun

Samhita

> > ,khana

> > > number 4..point no.4

> > >

> > > Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > >

> > > -

> > > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > > <lalkitab >

> > > Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

> > > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

> > comment

> > >

> > > > Respected Khattar Sahib,

> > > >

> > > > If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a request

for

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant portion

of the

> > > > text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and

Moon

> > not in

> > > > any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all

planets

> > > > give good results)?

> > > >

> > > > I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will kindly

> > grant my

> > > > request. This will be a great help to all learners like me.

> > Thanking

> > > > you,

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > >

> > > > R S

> > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > > > > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > > > > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > JanamKundali

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > > > > Sat in 6

> > > > > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > > > > Sun + Mer in 10

> > > > > Ven in 11

> > > > > Jup in 12

> > > > >

> > > > > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not

in

> > bund

> > > > muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever

> > educated he

> > > > may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in

profession

> > (

> > > > his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure

> > white

> > > > colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > > > > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours

will

> > suit

> > > > him.

> > > > >

> > > > > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> > > > >

> > > > > if his house has door or window in west....not good. there

> > should

> > > > not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be

issueless.

> > > > >

> > > > > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> > > > >

> > > > > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> > > > >

> > > > > moon and ketu in lagna

> > > > > mars and rahu in 2

> > > > > sat in 3

> > > > > ven in 4

> > > > > sun and mer in 7

> > > > > jup in 11

> > > > >

> > > > > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver

> > > > tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better finances.

> > > > >

> > > > > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> > > > >

> > > > > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed

> > at-least

> > > > 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ??

> > donate

> > > > eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > > > > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> > > > >

> > > > > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > > > > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals

again

> > with

> > > > wife.

> > > > >

> > > > > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > > > > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any

> > > > reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN

for any

> > > > unclaimed deadbody.

> > > > >

> > > > > fulfill your commitments

> > > > >

> > > > > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to

solve

> > all

> > > > your problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > wishing you good luck

> > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > >

August 16, 2004

Rakesh ji,

Please don't include me in the list of experts. I am also learing from

mentioned experts.

Coming to the point, my interpretation of Arun Samhita is similar to

the translation of Goswami/Vashishta translation. For the sake of

making it clear, I am reporoducing the point 4 of " khana no. 4 " from

52 edition, Arun Samhita -

" chandra muththi - khana no 1, 4, 7, 10 se bahar ho aur khana no chaar

khali ho to chandra sab grahon, khud chandra sahit par nek asar hoga

chahe chandra kuhd kitna hi nikamma ho "

My interpretation is as follows -

If the Moon is not in 1, 4, 7, 10 and 4th house is empty, then the

impact of Moon on all planets including Moon will be beneficial;

however malefic Moon may be.

So, IMHO, it is just mentioning the relation of Moon with other planets.

Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:32:58 -0000, rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:

> Rajeev Ji

>

> In my opinion you are no less than any one, if however you wish to

> pass on this one I can only feel disappointed.

>

> Let's hope Umesh ji, Shukla ji,Prabhakar ji or Punit ji will take the

> trouble and help me out.

>

> Respectfully

>

> R S

>

> lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

> wrote:

> > Dear RS

> > don't look forward to my guidance. we both should expect some

> gurujan to

> > comment.

> > REgards

> > Rajeev K Khattar

> > -

> > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > <lalkitab >

> > Monday, August 16, 2004 3:49 PM

> > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

> comment

> >

> > >

> > > Rajeev Jee

> > >

> > > Thanks very much for pointing out the specific portion to me.

> Although

> > > I dont have AS ver of LK I have G & V (which is probably not as

> > > accurate as your book) and it states, I quote

> > >

> > > " IF MOON IS OUTSIDE Hs # 1,4,7 & 10 AND KHAANA #4 IS BLANK, THEN

> THE

> > > EFFECT OF MOON ON ALL OTHER PLANETS AND ITSELF WIL BE BENEFIC

> EVEN IF

> > > MOON ITSELF IS POOR/MALEFIC/DEBILITATED "

> > >

> > > What I can infer from this is that Moon by aspect or any other

> > > relationship shall have a positive impact on the planets it

> impacts.

> > > With all due respect , I would like to suggest that this doesnt

> convey

> > > the impression that all planets are positively impacted

> irrespective

> > > of wherever they may be. If my understanding is flawed(of which

> there

> > > is a high probability) please be kind enough to correct me. If by

> > > chance my understanding is correct then the malefics and benefics

> have

> > > to be looked at afresh.

> > >

> > > I look forward to your valued guidance. Thanking you,

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > >

> > > R S

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear RS

> > > > Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to

> analyse

> > > a

> > > > horoscope is to

> > > > start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to learn

> and

> > > clear our

> > > > fundae.

> > > >

> > > > Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun

> Samhita

> > > ,khana

> > > > number 4..point no.4

> > > >

> > > > Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

> > > comment

> > > >

> > > > > Respected Khattar Sahib,

> > > > >

> > > > > If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a request

> for

> > > > > you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant portion

> of the

> > > > > text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and

> Moon

> > > not in

> > > > > any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all

> planets

> > > > > give good results)?

> > > > >

> > > > > I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will kindly

> > > grant my

> > > > > request. This will be a great help to all learners like me.

> > > Thanking

> > > > > you,

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully

> > > > >

> > > > > R S

> > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > > > > > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > > > > > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JanamKundali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > > > > > Sat in 6

> > > > > > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > > > > > Sun + Mer in 10

> > > > > > Ven in 11

> > > > > > Jup in 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon not

> in

> > > bund

> > > > > muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever

> > > educated he

> > > > > may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in

> profession

> > > (

> > > > > his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of pure

> > > white

> > > > > colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > > > > > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light colours

> will

> > > suit

> > > > > him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if his house has door or window in west....not good. there

> > > should

> > > > > not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be

> issueless.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> > > > > >

> > > > > > moon and ketu in lagna

> > > > > > mars and rahu in 2

> > > > > > sat in 3

> > > > > > ven in 4

> > > > > > sun and mer in 7

> > > > > > jup in 11

> > > > > >

> > > > > > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using silver

> > > > > tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better finances.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should feed

> > > at-least

> > > > > 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days ??

> > > donate

> > > > > eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > > > > > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > > > > > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals

> again

> > > with

> > > > > wife.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > > > > > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to any

> > > > > reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN

> for any

> > > > > unclaimed deadbody.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > fulfill your commitments

> > > > > >

> > > > > > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to

> solve

> > > all

> > > > > your problems.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > wishing you good luck

> > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > >

August 17, 2004

Punit Ji

Thanks very much.

Essentailly our respective interpretations tally.

Now this is confusing. Case in point, my own chart. I have a similar

configuration(Hs #4 empty and Moon #12). Everyone I have spoken with

has identified Moon as a malefic. This probably means there is some

additional rider/caveat/condition that needs to be looked at.

Lets hope Umesh ji or Shukla ji or Prabhakar ji will oblige and

explain this whole thing.

Regards

R S

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Rakesh ji,

>

> Please don't include me in the list of experts. I am also learing

from

> mentioned experts.

>

> Coming to the point, my interpretation of Arun Samhita is similar to

> the translation of Goswami/Vashishta translation. For the sake of

> making it clear, I am reporoducing the point 4 of " khana no. 4 " from

> 52 edition, Arun Samhita -

>

> " chandra muththi - khana no 1, 4, 7, 10 se bahar ho aur khana no

chaar

> khali ho to chandra sab grahon, khud chandra sahit par nek asar hoga

> chahe chandra kuhd kitna hi nikamma ho "

>

> My interpretation is as follows -

>

> If the Moon is not in 1, 4, 7, 10 and 4th house is empty, then the

> impact of Moon on all planets including Moon will be beneficial;

> however malefic Moon may be.

>

> So, IMHO, it is just mentioning the relation of Moon with other

planets.

>

> Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:32:58 -0000, rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

wrote:

> > Rajeev Ji

> >

> > In my opinion you are no less than any one, if however you wish to

> > pass on this one I can only feel disappointed.

> >

> > Let's hope Umesh ji, Shukla ji,Prabhakar ji or Punit ji will take

the

> > trouble and help me out.

> >

> > Respectfully

> >

> > R S

> >

> > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear RS

> > > don't look forward to my guidance. we both should expect some

> > gurujan to

> > > comment.

> > > REgards

> > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > -

> > > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > > <lalkitab >

> > > Monday, August 16, 2004 3:49 PM

> > > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

> > comment

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Rajeev Jee

> > > >

> > > > Thanks very much for pointing out the specific portion to me.

> > Although

> > > > I dont have AS ver of LK I have G & V (which is probably not

as

> > > > accurate as your book) and it states, I quote

> > > >

> > > > " IF MOON IS OUTSIDE Hs # 1,4,7 & 10 AND KHAANA #4 IS BLANK,

THEN

> > THE

> > > > EFFECT OF MOON ON ALL OTHER PLANETS AND ITSELF WIL BE BENEFIC

> > EVEN IF

> > > > MOON ITSELF IS POOR/MALEFIC/DEBILITATED "

> > > >

> > > > What I can infer from this is that Moon by aspect or any other

> > > > relationship shall have a positive impact on the planets it

> > impacts.

> > > > With all due respect , I would like to suggest that this

doesnt

> > convey

> > > > the impression that all planets are positively impacted

> > irrespective

> > > > of wherever they may be. If my understanding is flawed(of

which

> > there

> > > > is a high probability) please be kind enough to correct me.

If by

> > > > chance my understanding is correct then the malefics and

benefics

> > have

> > > > to be looked at afresh.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to your valued guidance. Thanking you,

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > >

> > > > R S

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar

<lalkitab@v...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear RS

> > > > > Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to

> > analyse

> > > > a

> > > > > horoscope is to

> > > > > start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to

learn

> > and

> > > > clear our

> > > > > fundae.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun

> > Samhita

> > > > ,khana

> > > > > number 4..point no.4

> > > > >

> > > > > Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > > Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

> > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans

please

> > > > comment

> > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Khattar Sahib,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a

request

> > for

> > > > > > you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant

portion

> > of the

> > > > > > text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and

> > Moon

> > > > not in

> > > > > > any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all

> > planets

> > > > > > give good results)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will

kindly

> > > > grant my

> > > > > > request. This will be a great help to all learners like

me.

> > > > Thanking

> > > > > > you,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > >

> > > > > > R S

> > > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > > > > > > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > > > > > > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > JanamKundali

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > > > > > > Sat in 6

> > > > > > > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > > > > > > Sun + Mer in 10

> > > > > > > Ven in 11

> > > > > > > Jup in 12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon

not

> > in

> > > > bund

> > > > > > muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever

> > > > educated he

> > > > > > may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in

> > profession

> > > > (

> > > > > > his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of

pure

> > > > white

> > > > > > colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > > > > > > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light

colours

> > will

> > > > suit

> > > > > > him.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if his house has door or window in west....not good.

there

> > > > should

> > > > > > not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be

> > issueless.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > moon and ketu in lagna

> > > > > > > mars and rahu in 2

> > > > > > > sat in 3

> > > > > > > ven in 4

> > > > > > > sun and mer in 7

> > > > > > > jup in 11

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using

silver

> > > > > > tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better

finances.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should

feed

> > > > at-least

> > > > > > 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days

??

> > > > donate

> > > > > > eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > > > > > > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > > > > > > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals

> > again

> > > > with

> > > > > > wife.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > > > > > > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to

any

> > > > > > reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN

> > for any

> > > > > > unclaimed deadbody.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > fulfill your commitments

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to

> > solve

> > > > all

> > > > > > your problems.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > wishing you good luck

> > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > > >

August 17, 2004

Rakesh ji,

Could you please send your chart details once again.

Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:51:51 -0000, rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:

> Punit Ji

>

> Thanks very much.

>

> Essentailly our respective interpretations tally.

>

> Now this is confusing. Case in point, my own chart. I have a similar

> configuration(Hs #4 empty and Moon #12). Everyone I have spoken with

> has identified Moon as a malefic. This probably means there is some

> additional rider/caveat/condition that needs to be looked at.

>

> Lets hope Umesh ji or Shukla ji or Prabhakar ji will oblige and

> explain this whole thing.

>

> Regards

>

> R S

>

> lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> > Rakesh ji,

> >

> > Please don't include me in the list of experts. I am also learing

> from

> > mentioned experts.

> >

> > Coming to the point, my interpretation of Arun Samhita is similar to

> > the translation of Goswami/Vashishta translation. For the sake of

> > making it clear, I am reporoducing the point 4 of " khana no. 4 " from

> > 52 edition, Arun Samhita -

> >

> > " chandra muththi - khana no 1, 4, 7, 10 se bahar ho aur khana no

> chaar

> > khali ho to chandra sab grahon, khud chandra sahit par nek asar hoga

> > chahe chandra kuhd kitna hi nikamma ho "

> >

> > My interpretation is as follows -

> >

> > If the Moon is not in 1, 4, 7, 10 and 4th house is empty, then the

> > impact of Moon on all planets including Moon will be beneficial;

> > however malefic Moon may be.

> >

> > So, IMHO, it is just mentioning the relation of Moon with other

> planets.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:32:58 -0000, rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

>

> wrote:

> > > Rajeev Ji

> > >

> > > In my opinion you are no less than any one, if however you wish to

> > > pass on this one I can only feel disappointed.

> > >

> > > Let's hope Umesh ji, Shukla ji,Prabhakar ji or Punit ji will take

> the

> > > trouble and help me out.

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > >

> > > R S

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear RS

> > > > don't look forward to my guidance. we both should expect some

> > > gurujan to

> > > > comment.

> > > > REgards

> > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > -

> > > > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > Monday, August 16, 2004 3:49 PM

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans please

> > > comment

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rajeev Jee

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks very much for pointing out the specific portion to me.

> > > Although

> > > > > I dont have AS ver of LK I have G & V (which is probably not

> as

> > > > > accurate as your book) and it states, I quote

> > > > >

> > > > > " IF MOON IS OUTSIDE Hs # 1,4,7 & 10 AND KHAANA #4 IS BLANK,

> THEN

> > > THE

> > > > > EFFECT OF MOON ON ALL OTHER PLANETS AND ITSELF WIL BE BENEFIC

> > > EVEN IF

> > > > > MOON ITSELF IS POOR/MALEFIC/DEBILITATED "

> > > > >

> > > > > What I can infer from this is that Moon by aspect or any other

> > > > > relationship shall have a positive impact on the planets it

> > > impacts.

> > > > > With all due respect , I would like to suggest that this

> doesnt

> > > convey

> > > > > the impression that all planets are positively impacted

> > > irrespective

> > > > > of wherever they may be. If my understanding is flawed(of

> which

> > > there

> > > > > is a high probability) please be kind enough to correct me.

> If by

> > > > > chance my understanding is correct then the malefics and

> benefics

> > > have

> > > > > to be looked at afresh.

> > > > >

> > > > > I look forward to your valued guidance. Thanking you,

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully

> > > > >

> > > > > R S

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar

> <lalkitab@v...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear RS

> > > > > > Kindly don't feel that u r imposing urself on me.My idea to

> > > analyse

> > > > > a

> > > > > > horoscope is to

> > > > > > start a discussion . In the process we all get chance to

> learn

> > > and

> > > > > clear our

> > > > > > fundae.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding your question ,kindly see page number 19 of Arun

> > > Samhita

> > > > > ,khana

> > > > > > number 4..point no.4

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please correct me if didn't undersatnd it properly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > > > Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:51 AM

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: Analysis of Harrit Pall..Gurujans

> please

> > > > > comment

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Khattar Sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you will kindly allow me to impose on you I have a

> request

> > > for

> > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Will it possible for you to transcribe the relevant

> portion

> > > of the

> > > > > > > text which states that in the event Khaana #4 is empty and

> > > Moon

> > > > > not in

> > > > > > > any of the centric houses(?) then no planet is malefic(all

> > > planets

> > > > > > > give good results)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I regret imposing on you like this, but hope you will

> kindly

> > > > > grant my

> > > > > > > request. This will be a great help to all learners like

> me.

> > > > > Thanking

> > > > > > > you,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > R S

> > > > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote:

> > > > > > > > Horoscope of Harrit Pall

> > > > > > > > 12-Oct-1971,13:30,Delhi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > JanamKundali

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars & Rahu in 2nd

> > > > > > > > Sat in 6

> > > > > > > > Moon & Ketu on 8th

> > > > > > > > Sun + Mer in 10

> > > > > > > > Ven in 11

> > > > > > > > Jup in 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As per grammer of lalkitab...4th house vacant and moon

> not

> > > in

> > > > > bund

> > > > > > > muththi ( 1,4,7,10 ) then all planets give good results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun in 10 makes a person of suspicious nature..howsoever

> > > > > educated he

> > > > > > > may be.! he should wear a white cap always, to grow in

> > > profession

> > > > > (

> > > > > > > his burning problem...told by him ) .The cap should be of

> pure

> > > > > white

> > > > > > > colour only..no logos/no designs.

> > > > > > > > he must not wear blue and black clothes.only light

> colours

> > > will

> > > > > suit

> > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He should not tell his sorrow tales to others.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if his house has door or window in west....not good.

> there

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > not be light from west direction.his neighbours may be

> > > issueless.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He should not stay with his in-laws.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > VARSHAPHAL, 33rd year, till 12th oct 2004

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > moon and ketu in lagna

> > > > > > > > mars and rahu in 2

> > > > > > > > sat in 3

> > > > > > > > ven in 4

> > > > > > > > sun and mer in 7

> > > > > > > > jup in 11

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > moon in lagna--he should not use glass tumblers.using

> silver

> > > > > > > tumblers will yield in more peace of mind & better

> finances.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > rahu..silent in presence of mars

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sat in 3 --he should keep a dog for prosperity. should

> feed

> > > > > at-least

> > > > > > > 3 dogs daily,eye-sight week or pain in the eys these days

> ??

> > > > > donate

> > > > > > > eye drops in a charitable dispensry.

> > > > > > > > no alcohol in any form , no non-veg. food , no eggs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wife suffering from any gynae problem this year ?

> > > > > > > > keep two names of wife..better perform marriagew rituals

> > > again

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > wife.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not to have extra marital affair..if applicable.

> > > > > > > > if sister/father's sister are unhappy these days due to

> any

> > > > > > > reason..or not in good terms with you..then donate a KAFAN

> > > for any

> > > > > > > unclaimed deadbody.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > fulfill your commitments

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > keep taking blessings from your father will help you to

> > > solve

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > your problems.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wishing you good luck

> > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > > > >

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