Kulbir Ji ..........saunf..maan gaye

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Dear Kulbir Ji

Maan gaye aap Ko....saara khel khol ke rakh diya.

maza aa gaya...dil khush kitta !

Sir, I am a very ordinary student of lalkitab and very much junior to you.I am learning lalkitab by reading mails of this group. Kindly don't think i m joking.

I reply only, if I know something, otherwise I try to learn.

Regards

Rajeev K Khattar

 

 

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ceeta bains

lalkitab

Saturday, August 07, 2004 4:00 PM

Re: [lalkitab] Kulbir Ji ..........saunf

 

khattar sahib kuch naya bataiye yeh mahawat aur hathi ki at to bahut pehle ho chuki lagta hai aapne message shuru se padhanahin . yun to jute bag jaali ki shakal mein hota hai aur jali rahu hai coconut, khakhi rang aur jaali= to bori bani rahu ki; shape rectangular bani mangal nek ki; beech mein mangal ki karak vastuain. chaliya gahre uttarte hain yeh hathi aur mahawat saunf aur red colour ki batein to bache bhi kar lete hain

kulbir Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab wrote:

Dear Kulbir JiRed colour & saunf represents Mars and Mars is used to control rahu asRahu is elephant and mahawat is mangalI had not thought so deep to include shani also. Other members may pleasecomment.RegardsRajeev K Khattar-"ceeta bains" <ceetabains<lalkitab >Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:25 PMRe: [lalkitab] Re: Rajni Ji> yes ms. rajni you are right i think we went astray.> will u kindly help me in finding why the jutebag was> used in the first place. i can presently think as> follows> 1.jute bag is made of khakhi colour, barley and> coconet are both of the same colour which are karakas> of rahu> 2. jute bag is made out of skin of beladar plants> which are a karaka of mangal> 3. jute bag can be compared to a coarse cloth which is> a karaka of venus and venus is exalted in 12th house> 4. or probably he just wanted saunf and khand to be> contained in something and inadvertqntly used ashiyan> because that days sugar was mostly kept in jute bags> last not but the least jute is made of dead material> which has the jurisdiction of shani and shani and> mangal might have been used to control rahu as ankush> is made of iron and mahawat is mangal> khattar sahib and yograj be kind enough to help me out> regards> kulbir> --- Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051 wrote:>> > Khattar Jee,> >> > Still not convinced, Pt. Roop Chand Jee mentioned> > Khaand or Saunf ki Bori. Mangal is covered by Khaand> > or Saunf then bori or Jute bag must be having any> > separate effect. In addition, we are changing jute> > to red cloth that in my opinion is not correct.> >> > Rajni> >> >> >> > bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha wrote:> > Respected Khattar jee,> >> > I agree with you. 'mangal kee aashiya' not only> > means karak things of> > mangal like saunf and khand , but the dull red> > colour too. The> > thailee could be small but rectangular.> >> > sabhee gurujan ko naman,> >> > with regards,> >> > bhuwan> >> >> > lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar> > <lalkitab@v...>> > wrote:> > > Dear Rajni Ji> > > IMHO Red colour must be used to include> > Mars..although the book> > has not mentioned any specific colour for the bag.> > > Regards> > > Rajeev K Khattar> > > -> > > Rajni Bhargava> > > lalkitab > > > Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:54 AM> > > Re: [lalkitab] experience of Kulbir ji> > >> > >> > > Khattar Ji,> > > If I were to suggest this remedy than would have> > suggested a very> > small size say one or two Kgs. jute bag instead of> > red cloth.How> > about this?> > > Rajni> > >> > > Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote:> > > Dear Kulbir Ji> > > Thanks for your inputs and sharing experiences> > of remedies with> > us.> > > Regards> > > Rajeev K Khattar> > >> > > -> > > "ceeta bains" <ceetabains>> > > <lalkitab >> > > Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:19 PM> > > Re: [lalkitab] Rahu in 12...pillow-> > prabhakar ji> > >> > >> > > > Respected prabhakar ji,> > > > i fuly agree with khattar sahib as afr as> > mars's house> > > > wise representations are concerned it> > represents saunf> > > > in house no 1 and honey, sweetmeats and> > sugar in house> > > > no 10. as far as house no 12 is concerned> > mars> > > > represents HATHI KA MAHAWAT (kindly refer> > to the> > > > tables compiled by pt. joshi) so the> > condition of> > > > "RAAT KO AARAM KARNE WALI JAGAH PAR MANGAL> > KI ASHIYAN> > > > QAYAM KARNE SE RAHU UTTAM PHAL DEGA."> > because pillow> > > > is the place on which the head(READ> > SUBCONCIOUS MIND)> > > > rests and saunf enwrapped in blood red> > cloth ensures> > > > that the madmast hathi of sub cocious mind> > is> > > > controlled by the mahawat of rahu. in other> > words it> > > > does the job of ANKUSH. i have first hand> > experience> > > > that it is a wonerful remedy as remarked by> > mr.> > > > khattar.> > > > Rgards> > > > kulbir> > > > --- Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Prabhakar Ji> > > > > In modern time,it is not practical to keep> > a big bag> > > > > of saunf/khand in small> > > > > bedrooms. moreover people living abroad> > can't get> > > > > bagfull of saunf/khand,so> > > > > i thought of this idea becaoz pillow is a> > part of> > > > > bedroom( 12th house) ,red> > > > > cloth symbolises mars,saunf is also mars.> > It has> > > > > given positive results to> > > > > many people whom i have suggested to do> > like this.> > > > > comments from Gurujans welcome> > > > > Regards> > > > > Rajeev K Khattar> > > > >> > > > > -> > > > > "Yograj Prabhakar"> > <yr_prabhakar>> > > > > <lalkitab >> > > > > Monday, August 02, 2004 11:16 PM> > > > > Re: [lalkitab] case of Mr.shrisha> > Prasad> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Respected Khattar Ji> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Please clarify my one doubt regarding> > Keeping> > > > > Saunf> > > > > > under the pillow for RAHU in 12th house.> > The way> > > > > you> > > > > > have prescribed is no where mentioned in> > the Lal> > > > > Kiab.> > > > > >> > > > > > On page no.688 of Lal Kitab 1952 Urdu> > edition it> > > > > is> > > > > > like that :> > > > > >> > > > > > "RAAT KO AARAM KARNE WALI JAGAH PAR> > MANGAL KI> > > > > ASHIYAN> > > > > > (KHAAND KI BORI YAA SAUNF KI BORI) QAYAM> > KARNE SE> > > > > RAHU> > > > > > UTTAM PHAL DEGA)."> > > > > >> > > > > > So how come the word pillow emerged. Is> > there any> > > > > > secret behind this ?> > > > > >> > > > > > I shall be highly obliged if your good> > self can> > > > > > clarify the above mentioned way of> > remedy for me.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Gurujans> > > > > > > Pranam> > > > > > > Kindly comment on case analysis of> > Mr.Shrisha> > > > > > > Prasad.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > birth details are : Time 11 AM ,> > > > > Place:Bangalore,> > > > > > > Name :SHRISHA PRASAD R , Date> > 18-08-1979> > > > > > > Problem : insecurity/fear of losing> > job> > > > > > > CHART> > > > > > > Ketu khana no.5> > > > > > > Moon and Mars Khana no.9> > > > > > > Mer,Jup,Ven khana no.10> > > > > > > Sun,sat and Rahu Khana no.11> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Precautions to follow life long ( from> > janam> > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > chart )> > > > > > > 1.Sun and Sat together in 11---not to> > take> > > > > non-veg.> > > > > > > and alcohol,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2.Jup in 10 ---Not to help others by> > going> === message truncated ===>>>>>> > > > >>>>>