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Respected gurujan & learned members,

 

I am a beginner to this science , pls. guide me . Pls. forgive me if I ask

you any childish question.

 

I am trying to refer lalkitab ver 5.0 xls file on the file section of our

group.

I am referring it for my own kunldi. I have following queries.

 

1. when referring the malefic / benefic table . My planets of lagna kundli

are :

 

SUN : benefic ( in 11th House)

Shani : benefic ( in 11th House)

Shukra : benefic ( in 12th House)

Rahu : Benefic ( in 3rd House)

Chandr : Benefic ( in 7th House)

Guru : Benefic ( in 8th house)

Ketu : Benefic ( in 9th House)

 

Mangal : Malefic (in 8th house)

Budh : Malefic ( in 11th house )

 

now my query is : only mangal and budh should be consider malefic or there

is any other thing is to be considered yet.

If these two planets are to be considered malefic , then only uppaya for

these two will be sufficient ?

 

And is the same procedure applicable to varshfal also.

 

For your reference :

my details are as below

 

DOB : 28-07-197

Time :9:50 AM

Place : PATIALA

 

 

I wish to hear from you soon

 

With best regards

 

AMIT SHARMA

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Amit

 

Q1. Did you cast your natal chart/kundli per LK?

 

Q2. Are you referring to any text on the subject?

 

Before making a determination of benefic/malefic ideally you should do

some reading fromn a reasonable quality book. The reason for this is -

there are too many if's and buts which change the benefic/malefic

nature of a planet.

 

Regards

 

 

R S

 

lalkitab , " AMIT SHARMA " <amit@t...> wrote:

> Respected gurujan & learned members,

>

> I am a beginner to this science , pls. guide me . Pls. forgive me if

I ask

> you any childish question.

>

> I am trying to refer lalkitab ver 5.0 xls file on the file section

of our

> group.

> I am referring it for my own kunldi. I have following queries.

>

> 1. when referring the malefic / benefic table . My planets of lagna

kundli

> are :

>

> SUN : benefic ( in 11th House)

> Shani : benefic ( in 11th House)

> Shukra : benefic ( in 12th House)

> Rahu : Benefic ( in 3rd House)

> Chandr : Benefic ( in 7th House)

> Guru : Benefic ( in 8th house)

> Ketu : Benefic ( in 9th House)

>

> Mangal : Malefic (in 8th house)

> Budh : Malefic ( in 11th house )

>

> now my query is : only mangal and budh should be consider malefic or

there

> is any other thing is to be considered yet.

> If these two planets are to be considered malefic , then only

uppaya for

> these two will be sufficient ?

>

> And is the same procedure applicable to varshfal also.

>

> For your reference :

> my details are as below

>

> DOB : 28-07-197

> Time :9:50 AM

> Place : PATIALA

>

>

> I wish to hear from you soon

>

> With best regards

>

> AMIT SHARMA

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amit

good to see u working for urself u have 3 planets in

house no 11. so kindly think about this

GHAR 11 VEIN GRAH JO AAVE TASEER SHANI MEIN VOH HOTA

HAI

ASAR MAGAR US GHAR MEIN JAVE GURU JAHAN TEWE BAITHA HO

SHANI GURU US TEWE MEIN JAISE KAHIN BHI BAITHE HOON

PHAL VAISE HI GHAR 11 KE US TEWA MEIN HOTE HOON

I think that i have read somewhere that the planets in

no.11 are shakki

kulbir

--- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:

 

> Amit

>

> Q1. Did you cast your natal chart/kundli per LK?

>

> Q2. Are you referring to any text on the subject?

>

> Before making a determination of benefic/malefic

> ideally you should do

> some reading fromn a reasonable quality book. The

> reason for this is -

> there are too many if's and buts which change the

> benefic/malefic

> nature of a planet.

>

> Regards

>

>

> R S

>

> lalkitab , " AMIT SHARMA "

> <amit@t...> wrote:

> > Respected gurujan & learned members,

> >

> > I am a beginner to this science , pls. guide me .

> Pls. forgive me if

> I ask

> > you any childish question.

> >

> > I am trying to refer lalkitab ver 5.0 xls file on

> the file section

> of our

> > group.

> > I am referring it for my own kunldi. I have

> following queries.

> >

> > 1. when referring the malefic / benefic table . My

> planets of lagna

> kundli

> > are :

> >

> > SUN : benefic ( in 11th House)

> > Shani : benefic ( in 11th House)

> > Shukra : benefic ( in 12th House)

> > Rahu : Benefic ( in 3rd House)

> > Chandr : Benefic ( in 7th House)

> > Guru : Benefic ( in 8th house)

> > Ketu : Benefic ( in 9th House)

> >

> > Mangal : Malefic (in 8th house)

> > Budh : Malefic ( in 11th house )

> >

> > now my query is : only mangal and budh should be

> consider malefic or

> there

> > is any other thing is to be considered yet.

> > If these two planets are to be considered malefic

> , then only

> uppaya for

> > these two will be sufficient ?

> >

> > And is the same procedure applicable to varshfal

> also.

> >

> > For your reference :

> > my details are as below

> >

> > DOB : 28-07-197

> > Time :9:50 AM

> > Place : PATIALA

> >

> >

> > I wish to hear from you soon

> >

> > With best regards

> >

> > AMIT SHARMA

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

Thanks for your reply , from your explanation , should i think that shani is dominating on all other in the same khana if it is situated in 11 .

and what about guru are you saying , pls. guide me .

 

AMIT

 

ceeta bains [ceetabains]Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:48 PMlalkitab Subject: Re: [lalkitab] Re: referring lalkitab ver 5.0 .xlsamitgood to see u working for urself u have 3 planets inhouse no 11. so kindly think about thisGHAR 11 VEIN GRAH JO AAVE TASEER SHANI MEIN VOH HOTAHAIASAR MAGAR US GHAR MEIN JAVE GURU JAHAN TEWE BAITHA HOSHANI GURU US TEWE MEIN JAISE KAHIN BHI BAITHE HOONPHAL VAISE HI GHAR 11 KE US TEWA MEIN HOTE HOONI think that i have read somewhere that the planets inno.11 are shakkikulbir--- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:> Amit> > Q1. Did you cast your natal chart/kundli per LK?> > Q2. Are you referring to any text on the subject?> > Before making a determination of benefic/malefic> ideally you should do> some reading fromn a reasonable quality book. The> reason for this is -> there are too many if's and buts which change the> benefic/malefic> nature of a planet. > > Regards> > > R S> > lalkitab , "AMIT SHARMA"> <amit@t...> wrote:> > Respected gurujan & learned members,> > > > I am a beginner to this science , pls. guide me .> Pls. forgive me if> I ask> > you any childish question.> > > > I am trying to refer lalkitab ver 5.0 xls file on> the file section> of our> > group.> > I am referring it for my own kunldi. I have> following queries.> > > > 1. when referring the malefic / benefic table . My> planets of lagna> kundli> > are :> > > > SUN : benefic ( in 11th House)> > Shani : benefic ( in 11th House)> > Shukra : benefic ( in 12th House)> > Rahu : Benefic ( in 3rd House)> > Chandr : Benefic ( in 7th House)> > Guru : Benefic ( in 8th house)> > Ketu : Benefic ( in 9th House)> > > > Mangal : Malefic (in 8th house)> > Budh : Malefic ( in 11th house )> > > > now my query is : only mangal and budh should be> consider malefic or> there> > is any other thing is to be considered yet.> > If these two planets are to be considered malefic> , then only> uppaya for> > these two will be sufficient ?> > > > And is the same procedure applicable to varshfal> also.> > > > For your reference :> > my details are as below> > > > DOB : 28-07-197> > Time :9:50 AM> > Place : PATIALA> > > > > > I wish to hear from you soon> > > > With best regards> > > > AMIT SHARMA> >

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that is to say that the planets in the 11th house are

OF nature of the planet saturn i.e. position of saturn

in the kundali, its benefic or adverse effect is

manifested in the house in which jupiter is posited

therefore the effect of the 11th house is primarily

associated with the position of saturn and jupiter.

it would be better fur u if work on the following as

a beginner

1. which is your planet of destiny.

2. what is the classification of planets as per grah

phal uccha neecha rashiphal

3. aspects incidentally ur su,sa and mer have 9-5

relationship with moon, and also with rahu, rahu an

ketu are ofcourse mutually aspected, 11 th house

condition depends upon position of saturn and jupiter,

jupiter with mars in turn has 9-5 relationship with

venus, so all the planets are connected like a string,

it's rare.

* which planet is ruling according to 35 sala chakkara

4.above condition as per varshaphala

5. which planet is giving the effect of which house.

DO U HAVE DOMINATING LEADERSHIP QUALITIES. DOES UR

PERSONALITY HAS THE CAPACITY TO CARVE A NICHE IN A

CROWD.

WE SHAL CONTINUE

KULBIR

> Hi,

> Thanks for your reply , from your explanation ,

> should i think that shani

> is dominating on all other in the same khana if it

> is situated in 11 .

> and what about guru are you saying , pls. guide me .

>

> AMIT

>

> ceeta bains [ceetabains]

> Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:48 PM

> lalkitab

> Re: [lalkitab] Re: referring lalkitab ver

> 5.0 .xls

>

>

> amit

> good to see u working for urself u have 3 planets

> in

> house no 11. so kindly think about this

> GHAR 11 VEIN GRAH JO AAVE TASEER SHANI MEIN VOH

> HOTA

> HAI

> ASAR MAGAR US GHAR MEIN JAVE GURU JAHAN TEWE

> BAITHA HO

> SHANI GURU US TEWE MEIN JAISE KAHIN BHI BAITHE

> HOON

> PHAL VAISE HI GHAR 11 KE US TEWA MEIN HOTE HOON

> I think that i have read somewhere that the

> planets in

> no.11 are shakki

> kulbir

> --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:

>

> > Amit

> >

> > Q1. Did you cast your natal chart/kundli per LK?

> >

> > Q2. Are you referring to any text on the

> subject?

> >

> > Before making a determination of benefic/malefic

> > ideally you should do

> > some reading fromn a reasonable quality book.

> The

> > reason for this is -

> > there are too many if's and buts which change

> the

> > benefic/malefic

> > nature of a planet.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > R S

> >

> > lalkitab , " AMIT SHARMA "

> > <amit@t...> wrote:

> > > Respected gurujan & learned members,

> > >

> > > I am a beginner to this science , pls. guide

> me .

> > Pls. forgive me if

> > I ask

> > > you any childish question.

> > >

> > > I am trying to refer lalkitab ver 5.0 xls file

> on

> > the file section

> > of our

> > > group.

> > > I am referring it for my own kunldi. I have

> > following queries.

> > >

> > > 1. when referring the malefic / benefic table

> . My

> > planets of lagna

> > kundli

> > > are :

> > >

> > > SUN : benefic ( in 11th House)

> > > Shani : benefic ( in 11th House)

> > > Shukra : benefic ( in 12th House)

> > > Rahu : Benefic ( in 3rd House)

> > > Chandr : Benefic ( in 7th House)

> > > Guru : Benefic ( in 8th house)

> > > Ketu : Benefic ( in 9th House)

> > >

> > > Mangal : Malefic (in 8th house)

> > > Budh : Malefic ( in 11th house )

> > >

> > > now my query is : only mangal and budh should

> be

> > consider malefic or

> > there

> > > is any other thing is to be considered yet.

> > > If these two planets are to be considered

> malefic

> > , then only

> > uppaya for

> > > these two will be sufficient ?

> > >

> > > And is the same procedure applicable to

> varshfal

> > also.

> > >

> > > For your reference :

> > > my details are as below

> > >

> > > DOB : 28-07-197

> > > Time :9:50 AM

> > > Place : PATIALA

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish to hear from you soon

> > >

> > > With best regards

> > >

> > > AMIT SHARMA

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Amit Sharma,

 

I am a mamber of Lal Kitab . I saw your

excel files. Can i use it for my horscope calculation.

if yes can you tell me that and plants hose number

should be as per your jamam kundli. i tried it, when i

enter house location of plantes as per my vedic

horoscope. this excel files automatic give house

number for varshfal. but it is not matching with vedic

system.

 

can you tell me. is their any difference in

calculation method between vedic and lal kitab.

 

I wish to hear from you soon

 

With best regards

 

TERSAM LAL

DOB=18/12/1977

TIME=15:45 PM

PLACE=LAGARI VILLAGE, BANGA CITY, PUNJAB (INDIA)

LATITUDE & LONGITUDE OF THE PLACE=31N11 75E59

 

=====

Tersam Lal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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tersam ji

there is a basic difference in lalkitab varshaphal and vedic sysytem

as per the vedic system varshaphal ac. tajik nilkanthi depends on the osition of sun after each year acc. to lalkitab cording the tables devised by pt.joshi yehabhi tak raaz hi hai ki is system ke peecha basic padhiti kaun si hai.

umesh "mudit" told me an interesting thing about tajik nilkanthi and varshaphal i would like to share it with group members if you oserve tajik nilkanhi tajik is an urdu word but the bookcontains shalokas of sanskrit. umesh ji warned to disclosethis fact onl to patras bu i consider all the forum members worthy. one o nine jewels of akbar khani khana abu fazal i don't remember the exact name was blessed with a son. pandits casted and predicted his horoscope to be blessed with 80 years age but as fate would have it the child expired after 8 days. hewas so infurirated that he collected all thebooks on yotish and burned there pyre at chaurasta.he was a scholar par excelence he was a pandit and himself a jyotishi also. akbar inorder to savehimfrm depression senthim to misr greceeto study astrology. he too the the horoscope of his son to the school. the masters send him to their juniormost pupils. they drew the chart nd one by one all o them predicted the eath at theage of 8. he

asked them to teach this method. they agrred ut on the condition that he marry a muslim girl and change his religon. under thepeculiar state he embracedmohamedean religon and leant that method. THAT METHOD WAS THE METHOD OF VARSHAPHAL and he was the one to brin this method to india. another interesting fact is that shri ramchandra's banvas happned on the day mahurat selected for his coronation because the scholars that time didn't casted thevarshaphal. so theunique system of lalkitab was dictated to pt. joshi by mdium of hazrat in continuation of the tradition followed by some ancient system now lost. just take any kundali castit as per lk varshphal andalso as per vedi and se the difference manifest in predictions. hath kangan ko aarsi kya.

SHARMA JI FOR MODESTY SAKE HASN'T REVEALED TO THE GROUP THAT HEHAS AUTHORED A BOK ON LALKITAB VARSHAPHAL CALLED -LALKITAB VARSHAPHAL--NIYAM AUR VYAKHYA. it has sold 2,000 copies and second edition is ready. i recommend please buy this book if u want to study varshapal. if u can't get it ur place let me know i shall send u one copy from chandigarh.

kulbirL <tersamlal wrote:

Dear Amit Sharma,I am a mamber of Lal Kitab . I saw yourexcel files. Can i use it for my horscope calculation.if yes can you tell me that and plants hose numbershould be as per your jamam kundli. i tried it, when ienter house location of plantes as per my vedichoroscope. this excel files automatic give housenumber for varshfal. but it is not matching with vedicsystem.can you tell me. is their any difference incalculation method between vedic and lal kitab.I wish to hear from you soonWith best regardsTERSAM LALDOB=18/12/1977TIME=15:45 PMPLACE=LAGARI VILLAGE, BANGA CITY, PUNJAB (INDIA)LATITUDE & LONGITUDE OF THE PLACE=31N11 75E59=====Tersam Lal

 

 

 

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Dear Kubir ji,

 

Thank for a nice introduction about the both system. I

am really interested in to buy this book. But if you

have electronic copy of this book that will be most

easy for me. i stay in dubai. here noting is

available, special this kind of material. so please,

if you can make some efforts for me to get a

electronic copy of this book.

 

Thanks & regards,

 

 

TERSAM LAL

tersamlal

P.O.BOX 2393, DUBAI

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

 

--- ceeta bains <ceetabains wrote:

 

>

> tersam ji

> there is a basic difference in lalkitab varshaphal

> and vedic sysytem

> as per the vedic system varshaphal ac. tajik

> nilkanthi depends on the osition of sun after each

> year acc. to lalkitab cording the tables devised

> by pt.joshi yehabhi tak raaz hi hai ki is system ke

> peecha basic padhiti kaun si hai.

> umesh " mudit " told me an interesting thing about

> tajik nilkanthi and varshaphal i would like to share

> it with group members if you oserve tajik nilkanhi

> tajik is an urdu word but the bookcontains shalokas

> of sanskrit. umesh ji warned to disclosethis fact

> onl to patras bu i consider all the forum members

> worthy. one o nine jewels of akbar khani khana abu

> fazal i don't remember the exact name was blessed

> with a son. pandits casted and predicted his

> horoscope to be blessed with 80 years age but as

> fate would have it the child expired after 8 days.

> hewas so infurirated that he collected all thebooks

> on yotish and burned there pyre at chaurasta.he was

> a scholar par excelence he was a pandit and himself

> a jyotishi also. akbar inorder to savehimfrm

> depression senthim to misr greceeto study astrology.

> he too the the horoscope of his son to the school.

> the masters send him to their juniormost pupils.

> they drew the chart nd one by one all o them

> predicted the eath at theage of 8. he asked them

> to teach this method. they agrred ut on the

> condition that he marry a muslim girl and change his

> religon. under thepeculiar state he

> embracedmohamedean religon and leant that method.

> THAT METHOD WAS THE METHOD OF VARSHAPHAL and he was

> the one to brin this method to india. another

> interesting fact is that shri ramchandra's banvas

> happned on the day mahurat selected for his

> coronation because the scholars that time didn't

> casted thevarshaphal. so theunique system of

> lalkitab was dictated to pt. joshi by mdium of

> hazrat in continuation of the tradition followed by

> some ancient system now lost. just take any kundali

> castit as per lk varshphal andalso as per vedi and

> se the difference manifest in predictions. hath

> kangan ko aarsi kya.

> SHARMA JI FOR MODESTY SAKE HASN'T REVEALED TO THE

> GROUP THAT HEHAS AUTHORED A BOK ON LALKITAB

> VARSHAPHAL CALLED -LALKITAB VARSHAPHAL--NIYAM AUR

> VYAKHYA. it has sold 2,000 copies and second edition

> is ready. i recommend please buy this book if u want

> to study varshapal. if u can't get it ur place let

> me know i shall send u one copy from chandigarh.

> kulbir

> L <tersamlal wrote:

> Dear Amit Sharma,

>

> I am a mamber of Lal Kitab . I saw your

> excel files. Can i use it for my horscope

> calculation.

> if yes can you tell me that and plants hose number

> should be as per your jamam kundli. i tried it, when

> i

> enter house location of plantes as per my vedic

> horoscope. this excel files automatic give house

> number for varshfal. but it is not matching with

> vedic

> system.

>

> can you tell me. is their any difference in

> calculation method between vedic and lal kitab.

>

> I wish to hear from you soon

>

> With best regards

>

> TERSAM LAL

> DOB=18/12/1977

> TIME=15:45 PM

> PLACE=LAGARI VILLAGE, BANGA CITY, PUNJAB (INDIA)

> LATITUDE & LONGITUDE OF THE PLACE=31N11 75E59

>

> =====

> Tersam Lal

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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