Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Bhuvan ji as per my understanding sign lord is the owner of the land /foundation of the building , fixed lord is the owner of the building and the planet positioned is resident OR if we consider 3 tiers: 1-sign lord 2-fixed lord 3-planet positioned quoting you: " Each house has been designated as a pakka ghar of planet/s , like > the 3rd house , it is a pakka ghar of Mars , it is owned by Mercury > { mithun rasi }. Let us understand it thus; 3rd house , the land > belongs to Mars , where Mercury has constructed its house and any > planet placed in the house will be a tenant in that house. Suppose > Saturn is placed in the third house then it is a tenant in the house > of Mercury whose land is owned by Mars. " kindly correct me or explain more if i am getting it wrong. Regards Abhay On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:48:11 -0000, bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha wrote: > Respected Rakesh Sharma jee, > > First the concept of Grah Phal and Rasi Phal : > > Firstly , this catagorization is used primarily for devising upaya. > Secondly , it is applicable only for the Janma Kundali and not the > Varsh Kundali. Each house has been assigned planet/s which would be > considered as of grah phal or rasi phal. Every book on Lal Kitab > carries a table for this. > > If a planet is of grah phal { that means we are talking about the > janma kundali } there can be NO UPAYA ,except that a 'siddha purush' > alone by his spiritual powers can do the upaya for that planet.Where > as upaya for a rasi phal planet can be suggested and done. For > example , If Saturn is in the 3rd house in the janma kundali , and if > an upaya is needed for it , then Saturn is considered of rasi phal > only for financial matters and not for other menifestations. > Therefore the upaya for its placement in the janma kundali can be > done only for financial manifestations. If the saturn is in the 10th > house , in the janma kundali , it is of grah phal , therefore no > upaya can be done. > > In a varsh phal kundali all the planets are considered as of rasi > phal therefore their upaya can be suggested. > > now coming to your second query regarding pakka ghar , ghar ka swami > etc. > > Each house has been designated as a pakka ghar of planet/s , like > the 3rd house , it is a pakka ghar of Mars , it is owned by Mercury > { mithun rasi }. Let us understand it thus; 3rd house , the land > belongs to Mars , where Mercury has constructed its house and any > planet placed in the house will be a tenant in that house. Suppose > Saturn is placed in the third house then it is a tenant in the house > of Mercury whose land is owned by Mars. > > This concept is applicable both for the janma kundali as well as the > varsh phal kundali. > The relevance of this is that while analysing the effects of saturn > in the 3rd house we have to keep in mind the owner of the land { > mars } and the house lord { mercury }and their friend/enemy > relationship. In a way the results will be something like > mars+merc+sat combination. The influence of mars and mercury would be > there. > > sabhi gurujan ko naman, > > bhuwan > > > lalkitab , " rakeshrajnisharma " > <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote: > > - > > Here are some questions if anybody can help me > > What is difference between graha phal and sign phal. > > owner of the house is clear to me but pucca ghar and its function > is > > not very very clear > > > > BUT GRAHA PHAL AND THE SIGN PHAL IF ANYBODY HELP ME BY TAKING SOME > > EAXAMPLES. > > RAKESH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > Punit Sir, > > > Sorry to cause confusion. I meant exaltation purely in LalKitab > > terms. I should have used the word benefic instead (oonch haalat in > > terms of LK). > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Bhatia ji, > > > > > > What do you mean by exalted. In classical astrology, Saturn is > > exalted means Saturn in Libra sign. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > Khattar Sahib, > > > That is true ONLY if Saturn in the sixth is exalted, otherwise > this > > does not hold. You have to ensure that all the conditions for its > > exalted state are met. Additionally, all the conditions which may > > cause its effect to be malefic, must not be met. > > > > > > Taking sugar with water before leaving home helps if Sun is not > > malefic (in 6th or 7th). Honey can be dangerous if Mars and or > Saturn > > are badly posited. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote: > > > > > > About Muhurata from lalkitab, .....shani in 6th house,person > should > > do important work after sunset,starting new venture on amavasya > night > > will prove to be very fruitful. > > > second--before leaving house,one should take some sweet ( sugar / > > honey ) to take care of mischiefs of Rahu . > > > Regards > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Respected Abhay jee, It doesn't make a difference how you put it so long as the pakka ghar planet and the house lord are taken into account while studying the house. sabhee gurujan ko naman, bhuwan lalkitab , Abhay <bindug@g...> wrote: > Bhuvan ji > > as per my understanding sign lord is the owner of the land /foundation > of the building , fixed lord is the owner of the building and the > planet positioned is resident OR if we consider 3 tiers: > > 1-sign lord > 2-fixed lord > 3-planet positioned > > quoting you: > > " Each house has been designated as a pakka ghar of planet/s , like > > the 3rd house , it is a pakka ghar of Mars , it is owned by Mercury > > { mithun rasi }. Let us understand it thus; 3rd house , the land > > belongs to Mars , where Mercury has constructed its house and any > > planet placed in the house will be a tenant in that house. Suppose > > Saturn is placed in the third house then it is a tenant in the house > > of Mercury whose land is owned by Mars. " > > kindly correct me or explain more if i am getting it wrong. > > Regards > Abhay On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:48:11 -0000, bhuwanvashishtha > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Respected Rakesh Sharma jee, > > > > First the concept of Grah Phal and Rasi Phal : > > > > Firstly , this catagorization is used primarily for devising upaya. > > Secondly , it is applicable only for the Janma Kundali and not the > > Varsh Kundali. Each house has been assigned planet/s which would be > > considered as of grah phal or rasi phal. Every book on Lal Kitab > > carries a table for this. > > > > If a planet is of grah phal { that means we are talking about the > > janma kundali } there can be NO UPAYA ,except that a 'siddha purush' > > alone by his spiritual powers can do the upaya for that planet.Where > > as upaya for a rasi phal planet can be suggested and done. For > > example , If Saturn is in the 3rd house in the janma kundali , and if > > an upaya is needed for it , then Saturn is considered of rasi phal > > only for financial matters and not for other menifestations. > > Therefore the upaya for its placement in the janma kundali can be > > done only for financial manifestations. If the saturn is in the 10th > > house , in the janma kundali , it is of grah phal , therefore no > > upaya can be done. > > > > In a varsh phal kundali all the planets are considered as of rasi > > phal therefore their upaya can be suggested. > > > > now coming to your second query regarding pakka ghar , ghar ka swami > > etc. > > > > Each house has been designated as a pakka ghar of planet/s , like > > the 3rd house , it is a pakka ghar of Mars , it is owned by Mercury > > { mithun rasi }. Let us understand it thus; 3rd house , the land > > belongs to Mars , where Mercury has constructed its house and any > > planet placed in the house will be a tenant in that house. Suppose > > Saturn is placed in the third house then it is a tenant in the house > > of Mercury whose land is owned by Mars. > > > > This concept is applicable both for the janma kundali as well as the > > varsh phal kundali. > > The relevance of this is that while analysing the effects of saturn > > in the 3rd house we have to keep in mind the owner of the land { > > mars } and the house lord { mercury }and their friend/enemy > > relationship. In a way the results will be something like > > mars+merc+sat combination. The influence of mars and mercury would be > > there. > > > > sabhi gurujan ko naman, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshrajnisharma " > > <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote: > > > - > > > Here are some questions if anybody can help me > > > What is difference between graha phal and sign phal. > > > owner of the house is clear to me but pucca ghar and its function > > is > > > not very very clear > > > > > > BUT GRAHA PHAL AND THE SIGN PHAL IF ANYBODY HELP ME BY TAKING SOME > > > EAXAMPLES. > > > RAKESH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia > > > <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > > Punit Sir, > > > > Sorry to cause confusion. I meant exaltation purely in LalKitab > > > terms. I should have used the word benefic instead (oonch haalat in > > > terms of LK). > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > > Bhatia ji, > > > > > > > > What do you mean by exalted. In classical astrology, Saturn is > > > exalted means Saturn in Libra sign. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> wrote: > > > > Khattar Sahib, > > > > That is true ONLY if Saturn in the sixth is exalted, otherwise > > this > > > does not hold. You have to ensure that all the conditions for its > > > exalted state are met. Additionally, all the conditions which may > > > cause its effect to be malefic, must not be met. > > > > > > > > Taking sugar with water before leaving home helps if Sun is not > > > malefic (in 6th or 7th). Honey can be dangerous if Mars and or > > Saturn > > > are badly posited. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > > About Muhurata from lalkitab, .....shani in 6th house,person > > should > > > do important work after sunset,starting new venture on amavasya > > night > > > will prove to be very fruitful. > > > > second--before leaving house,one should take some sweet ( sugar / > > > honey ) to take care of mischiefs of Rahu . > > > > Regards > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Bhuvan ji thank you for your clarifications and guidance. Regards Abhay - bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha Sun, 01 Aug 2004 07:55:30 -0000 [lalkitab] Re: bhuvan ji pl clarify lalkitab Respected Abhay jee, It doesn't make a difference how you put it so long as the pakka ghar planet and the house lord are taken into account while studying the house. sabhee gurujan ko naman, bhuwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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